Linux-Misc Digest #991, Volume #23 Wed, 29 Mar 00 19:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: i'm an idiot and sorry for wasting your time ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Anyone have RH 6.2 i386 ISO yet? (Curly++)
lilo (Mark Guzzo)
Re: XWindows ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Sys. Admin. Guide ("Peter T. Breuer")
reinstalling windows in a Linux HD
Re: sorry, still an idiot, had to change info about me (Tim Hockin)
diylinux.com updated ("Tom")
BP6: Linux hangs on dma66 HD access (Jehsom)
kernel 2.2.13 - possible filesystem bug (nospam)
qmail? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Apm problem - please help (James Song)
Question about LILO uninstall ("Jonathan Lau")
Linux Users' Group of Davis, April 4 - Compiling a Kernel / Portsentry (William
Kendrick)
Re: Help LILO 10101... Problem!!! (Marc)
Running Linux 6.1
Re: Question about LILO uninstall (Stu)
Re: Question on a new Red Hat 6.0 Linux install (Andy9701)
Error message while starting xconfig?
Ownership of multiple groups, and being in multiple groups (Ken Eric Yasuda)
Re: Error message while starting xconfig? (Paul Kimoto)
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From: ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Subject: Re: i'm an idiot and sorry for wasting your time
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 20:22:53 GMT
Don't sweat it. You learn, you go on. Consider any internal modem
using the PCI bus as suspect. Visit this site:
http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html
If you own an internal PC modem, use it as a clay pigeon (most
gratifying) and then go buy an external modem.
You asked for a recommendation: U.S. Robotics 56K Faxmodem. There's
cheaper modems (like Winmodems). You get what you pay for.
Make sure your ISP supports what you buy (Flex, v90, X2).
-Al
Corry Parrott wrote:
>well I apologize for asking for help on a modem problem that I had without
>checking if my modem was indeed a freak'n win modem. which I found out it
>was and I recommend any one who has problems using a PCI modem to make sure
>that it is not a win modem. all of my documentation for my modem did not
>tell me the in formation I needed. after an extensive search on the
>Internet I am now officially an idiot for jumping the gun on the question of
>why won't my modem work.
>
> if anyone uses a PCI modem with linux..... I would like to know what it
>is, how much it cost's, and where I can get that model. or if any of you
>have information on a good external modem to use that info would also be a
>great help. thanks and later.
>
>-casey
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Curly++)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Anyone have RH 6.2 i386 ISO yet?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 17:14:23 -0500
In linux.redhat.install, J. C. proclaimed:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Hovell
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> : But I know there are only like 10 or so mirrors internationally right
> : now for RH 6.2 Zoot.
>
> What's in RH 6.2? I would have thought that they'd wait for an
> official kernel 2.4 release before they put it out. What's it got that
Uhm, correct me if I'm wrong here, but there's nothing in *any*
distro that you can't install yourself. Or am I missing some
obvious point?
You should still be able to find the announcement in
linux.redhat.announce which contains the list of changes.
There are significant security improvements that most users will
benefit from. It's a change from "allow first, deny later" to
the more secure "deny first, allow later" philosophy.
Let's face it, they *had* to release a new 6.x to fix the
install problems. I've only installed 6.2 once so far, but it
went *almost* smooth as silk. It crashed on the "onboard video",
which meant I never saw the "which services" section, so I'm
re-installing. But that's a big difference from my experience
with 6.1.
That was a brand new pentium... next I'll try installing on one
our old 486s... or maybe even a 386/25.
--
Oisin "Curly++" Curtin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Surface Liaison, Minetown Digger Send no SPAM.
http://pages.infinit.net/curlypp/
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From: Mark Guzzo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: lilo
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 16:23:37 -0600
I just installed the RPM version of kernel 2.2.14-8. After I setup lilo
to "see" the new kernel and then run "/sbin/lilo", I get an error
stating that the kernel 2.2.14-8 is to big. So I left out of the
lilo.conf all the lines about the old kernel and reran the /sbin/lilo,
but I still got the same message. I can not find this error listed in
any FAQ or in the man pages. Can someone please help ;-(
Mark
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: XWindows
Date: 29 Mar 2000 22:20:21 GMT
Jens Grivolla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: On 29 Mar 2000 18:29:08 GMT, "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: wrote:
:>Jens Grivolla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:>: Why would a mail program be setuid? If this was really the case I
:>
:>It's suid so it can write in /var/spool/mqueue. If it weren't, then
:>/var/spool/mqueue would have to be publicly writable. And then of
:>course it has to be root in order to talk on port 25!
: kmail is a MUA, not a MTA. Why should an MTA use X anyway?
Err, this is extremely true. I can't think why it should be suid, then.
Unless of course, it is trying to be an MTA too. Why an MTA should use
X is if it is trying to be an MUA. It probably should be using servlets
too, in that case ...
:>: would consider this a _major_ security problem and would definitely
:>
:>Then you consider up a gum tree. Every mailer has to go root to mail
:>out.
: You can (and should) mail out from high ports, you would just
: generally like your MTA to be reached on the usual POP and SMTP ports.
Generally, as in on pain of death by BOFH do not even think of trying
anything else.
: This however is a non-issue for the many users using fetchmail or some
: other POP3-retrieving software.
Poor lads. Use imap over ssl instead. Saves on changing passwords.
Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sys. Admin. Guide
Date: 29 Mar 2000 22:23:58 GMT
Vincent Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: In <8btpgk$n5r$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
:>I am a CSE softmore student and a Linux user with 6 months.
Mmm .. curious. Well, I guess it makes more sense than sophomore.
:>Also, I have experiences of C,C++,Bash and Perl and I want to be a
:>Professional Linux System Administrator, please guide me
:>on which steps i should follow, which books or tutorials
:>i should read.
: Step 1: Read the BOFH chronicles
Ha hahhhh ahhahaa . Ooooh. That hurt.
: Step 2: Develop a hard-nosed cynical attitude about lusers
: Step 3: Read newsgroup alt.sysadmin.recovery
Well, comp.lang.c and comp.unix.security are also good character
formers.
: From the ASR FAQ, Section 2:
: 2) ABOUT OUR FINE PROFESSION
: 2.1) I want to be a sysadmin. What should I do?
: Seek professional help.
: 2.3) Where do sysadmins rank as a profession
: Somewhere below janitors.
: Perhaps Abby Franquemont summarised the life of a sysadmin the best,
: when she described us as:
: "disgruntled, disenchanted with things we used to really get a kick
: out of, foul tempered, hard-drinking, heavy-smoking, overworked, with
: no real social life to speak of."
: Step 4: Change professions to something with less stress and better pay.
: Bomb squad or cardiac surgery for example.
How about a beach internet cafe for retired sysadmins? Could be fun!
Peter
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: reinstalling windows in a Linux HD
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 22:30:11 GMT
I am trying to reinstall windows 98 in my computer that in now Linux
formated but I just can't make the DOS/windows boot disk (or CD) recognize
the drive C. Haw can I reformat my HD for DOS/windows??
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From: Tim Hockin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: sorry, still an idiot, had to change info about me
Date: 29 Mar 2000 22:36:04 GMT
Casey Grzecka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: if anyone uses a PCI modem with linux..... I would like to know what it
: is, how much it cost's, and where I can get that model. or if any of you
: have information on a good external modem to use that info would also be a
: great help. thanks and later.
actiontec makes a PCI modem that works.
--
Tim Hockin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
This program has been brought to you by the language C and the number F.
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From: "Tom" <NOSPAM [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: diylinux.com updated
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 17:43:39 -0500
www.diylinux.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jehsom)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: BP6: Linux hangs on dma66 HD access
Date: 29 Mar 2000 22:47:25 GMT
I have a 40gb maxtor udma66 hard drive here.
I can connect it to the PIIX controller and it works fine at
dma33 speeds (hdparm -t shows 13 MB/s).
I can then connect it to the HPT366 controller, and it shows
xfer speeds almost 2x as fast (hdparm -t shows 25 MB/s). How-
ever, the whole system locks up on normal disk accesses, such
as hdparm -t, and the usual startup fsck when the volume was
not properly unmounted. So I end up having to disconnect the
drive just to boot up, because it locks when it tries to fsck
it.
I patched my 2.2.14 kernel with ide.2.2.14.20000124.patch,
but it doesn't seem to make a difference.
Please help!
Thanks,
Moshe
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From: nospam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: kernel 2.2.13 - possible filesystem bug
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 22:53:40 GMT
Hello All,
Try the following test on your Linux box:
1/ create a file filled with zeros of 40Mb size
dd if=/dev/zero of=file1 bs=1024k count=40
2/ create another file filled with zeros of 40Mb size
dd if=/dev/zero of=file2 bs=1024k count=40
3/ compare these two files. They must be identical.
cmp file1 file2
Unfortunately on my system 'cmp' or 'diff' report differences at
random offsets. This problem affects only my pc with SCSI drives.
The differences are usually begin at around 10Mb offset.
I tried this test on IDE based machines and everything is fine.
The problematic PC is a Pentium with Adaptec 2940 and Slackware 7
(kernel 2.2.13).
I tried kernel 2.0.3x (toms root/boot) on the same PC, no problem.
I suspect either SCSI layer or VFS problem. Any ideas?
To save bandwidth - please post only if the problem appears on
your machine.
Thank you,
Ken
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: qmail?
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 23:00:29 GMT
Anyone using qmail on Linux for a large scale email host?
Thanks,
John
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From: James Song <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Apm problem - please help
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 18:05:54 -0500
Nan-shan Chen wrote:
>
> James song <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >I am running RH 6.0 on my compaq 5035 machine but I have problem with
> >apm. There is a button in front of machine, it
> >works under win98 - ie. when you press it, the machine will sleep, press
> >again, the machine will wake up.
>
> >But for linux, press the button will hang the machine. Any suggestions?
> >If I will compile the kernel, how do I know whether
> >my machine's RTC store time in GMT or not?
>
> Hi James,
>
> I;m using a Compaq Elite and Debain. So, I have no idea how
> RH looks like. I'll just be stating what I've seen on my
> machine (also with a suspend button) and Debian.
>
> I install the Debain and the suspension did work. But I've
> see error messages (something from ide-drive) too when resuming
> the machine. And the system time was shifted, because it has
> not been updated while sleeping.
>
> It has been very important for me to have set the variable
> $GMT in the file /etc/defaults/rcS to "-u" in order for
> the system to work well with my RTC running in UTC(or GMT).
> If this variable is set to "-u" in this file, the other
> files, such as /etc/init.d/hwclock.sh (executed on boot and
> shutdown) will behave in a manner to treat the time of your
> RTC as UTC. That is to say, I don't think you will need to
> say whether you're RTC will be running in UTC or localtime
> when compiling the kernel, but you edit the file
>
> /etc/defaults/rcS
>
> to specify that.
>
> I'm still recompliing the kernel right now and I was
> able to suspend the machine by issuing
>
> apm -S
>
> and by pressing the button for a resume. On executing
> apm -S and on pressing the standby-button of the
> machine, /etc/.../suspend* and /etc/.../resume* will
> be executed to handle the time-problem automatically.
>
> But up to now, I still got some error messages and am
> trying to find a solution. You might like to issue
>
> apm -S
>
> from command line interface instead of pressing the
> button to enter suspend mode.
>
> Rudi
>
> --
> Nan-shan Chen, 05251/603388 P15.16.3 Pohlweg 47-49, 33098, FB14, Uni-Paderborn
Hi, Rudi
Thanks for taking time to answer my question, I also think the problem
lies in
the RTC and UTC thing, this apm used to work under rh5.2. Unfortunately
my
machine doesn't have the file rcS, I found one file named
/etc/sysconfig/ampd,
it reads: APMD_OPTIONS="-p 10 -w 5 -W" . Should I just put -u there?
another problem might lie in the bios, maybe old bios doesn't work well
with
rh6.0, i might try to upgrade my bios file.
James
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From: "Jonathan Lau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Question about LILO uninstall
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 18:10:12 -0500
Hi all,
I would like to uninstall LILO from the Master Boot Record /dev/hda but I'm
not sure how this can be done.
I read the HOWTO on uninstalling LILO. It says that Linux backs up the old
MBR to a /boot directory. But what if I've installed Linux (and LILO to the
MBR) more that once. Would my original MBR still be in the /boot after all
those reinstalls?
How can I get my MBR to just boot to the first primary partition (my Windows
NT) like it used to without showing the LILO boot prompt?
--
Jonathan Lau
email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: William Kendrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux Users' Group of Davis, April 4 - Compiling a Kernel / Portsentry
Crossposted-To:
sac.announce,ucd.general,sacramento.internet,sac.general,sac.internet,ucd.life,ucd.cs.club
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 23:14:17 GMT
MEETING
=======
The meeting will be held on:
Tuesday, April 4th, 2000
at 6:30pm
The meeting will be held at:
Z-World, Inc.
Room 9 (Meeting room)
2900 Spafford Street
Davis, CA 95616
TOPICS
======
* Recompiling the Linux Kernel - Pete Salzman
You cannot really call yourself a Linux user if you haven't compiled
your kernel yet.
(A "kernel" is the essential center of a computer Operating System,
the core that provides basic services for all other parts of the OS.
It acts as a mediator for your programs and your hardware.)
Reasons to compile the Linux kernel yourself include: upgrading to a
new version, implementing bug fix patches, and adding or removing pieces
of the kernel that you do/don't need.
Pete Salzman, Chairperson of LUGOD, will be demonstrating ways to
compile your Linux kernel. This is a must-see for all Linux users!
* Portsentry - Pete Salzman (mini demo)
Pete will also be demonstrating "Portsentry," a program designed to
detect and respond to port scans against a target host in real-time.
If you're concerned about people trying to break into your computer
from the outside world, you may want to try Portsentry.
For details on this meeting, maps, directions, public transportation
schedules, etc., visit:
http://www.lugod.org/meeting/
ABOUT LUGOD
===========
LUGOD, the Linux Users' Group of Davis, is a non-profit organization
dedicated to Linux, a free, Unix-like Operating System available for
a number of computer platforms.
Meetings are held on the first Tuesday and third Monday of each month
at the headquarters of Z-World, Inc., at 2900 Spafford Street in Davis.
Please visit our website for details:
http://www.lugod.org/
-bill!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.lugod.org/
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From: Marc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
uk.comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Help LILO 10101... Problem!!!
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 23:27:45 GMT
Martin wrote:
>
> When installing RH 6.1 on my system after the LILO configuration has
> completed upon rebooting my system I get the 10101010... string running
> accross the screen. I then have to boot into DOS and "fdisk /mbr". I have an
> IBM Deskstar 20.5GB drive with 2 partitions of 10GB running Win 98 and a 4GB
> Quantumn Fireball running Linux. I did not have any probs with LILO before
> the IBM drive was installed.
>
> Any help on how to get around this problem will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Martin
I have had a similar problem with my machine.
I have two hard disks in the computer, one is fixed the other is in a
removable drawer.
The removable disk (which I call home disk) is a win95 disk set as
primary master that I can remove and replace with another disk form the
offic. The second disk is a fixed disk set as primary slave containing
my Linux OS.
The 1010101 error occured when I removed my "home" disk and replaced it
with my "office" disk to do a little bit of work. While booting, I
modified my BIOS setting "to forget" that I have a disk on the primary
slave (setting to "NONE") forcing it to recongnise only the primary
master ("WORK") disk.
After my work was done, I put back my "home" disk in the computer,
which I forgot to tell you, contains the lilo in the MBR and rebooted
without modifying the BIOS settings by mistake. On booting, just after
doing the internal test and just when it was supposed to go to lilo,
...... 1010101010101010110.
I am not an expert, just a beginner, My opinion is take in my case,
lilo was looking for my primary slave disk and did not find it gave me
the 10101010 erorr message. Everything was back to normal when I
modified the BIOS settings.
Marc.
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Running Linux 6.1
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 23:30:03 GMT
I just install linux, and config it completely. After I type in my login
name, and pass, what do I do to get to the OS? Just dont tell me that
Linux 6.1 is look-a-like MS-DOS, because if it is, I m gonna throw all my
linux and, bang it. I m so fustrated that I cant (or should I say: No
manual for using linux). Can some one tell me what to do, or some web
sites?
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From: Stu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Question about LILO uninstall
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 23:35:50 GMT
Jonathan Lau wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I would like to uninstall LILO from the Master Boot Record /dev/hda but I'm
> not sure how this can be done.
>
> I read the HOWTO on uninstalling LILO. It says that Linux backs up the old
> MBR to a /boot directory. But what if I've installed Linux (and LILO to the
> MBR) more that once. Would my original MBR still be in the /boot after all
> those reinstalls?
>
> How can I get my MBR to just boot to the first primary partition (my Windows
> NT) like it used to without showing the LILO boot prompt?
>
> --
> Jonathan Lau
> email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Go into DOS and type: fdisk /MBR
That'll get rid of lilo.
Stu
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From: Andy9701 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Question on a new Red Hat 6.0 Linux install
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 23:41:48 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave LaPorte) wrote:
> 1. Why, after doing a ' ls ' from the root dir ' / ' do all
> the sub dirrectorys have a / after them. ie: etc/, dev/, home/. I
> have another server that's the exact same os, ( only a consultant set
> that one up ) yet that server doen't have the trailing slash's.
That's probably because you have an alias set up for ls. I'm not sure
what shell you're running (I'd guess bash), and in your .bashrc file
(that's what it is for bash, anyways) there is an alias for ls, so that
the -F option is always used. That is what's giving you the / at the
end of directories. If you edit your .bashrc file in your home
directory with you favorite editor, you can remove the -F from the ls
alias, and you should be all set.
> 2. Why, after createing a new file on the server that I
> loaded the os on, do all filenames end with an '*' ie: firstfile*
> secondfile* etc. After doing a ls in any dir, where I created files,
> the files end with a *.
It's the same reason as your first question - ls automatically uses the
-F option. It's just a visible reminder the file ending with a * is an
executable file. I personally prefer to use the --color option of ls
instead, which makes executable files and directores a different color.
This could be added to the ls alias in your .bashrc file if you'd like
to add it.
> 3. How do I set the linux xwindow system to kde. What is the
> easiest way to do that. I can log in as root, and for some reason (
> after clicking on the desktop to get the menu's to come up ) there is
> now option to get to linuxconf etc.
I'm not sure about making KDE the default, but I do know how to launch
KDE instead of Gnome when you login. At the login window after X has
started, there are some menus at the bottom of the window. I believe
System is the name of the menu on the right, go into that menu and I
think there's an option about Desktop environment or something...just
select KDE from the list. Sorry about the vagueness of the
instructions, but I'm happy with Gnome, so I don't go into those menus
very often.
> Thanks
No problem, I have recently started using Linux as well, so I had,and
still have, quite a few questions about Linux.
Hope this helps,
Andy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Error message while starting xconfig?
Date: 29 Mar 2000 18:33:09 GMT
Hi,
While trying to change some options in my kernel, I tried to start
xconfig. After logging in as root, from the directory /usr/src/linux I typed:
make xconfig
and got the response
make: *** No rule to make target `xconfig'. Stop.
This puzzles me, and I don't know why it happened. I have the tcl and tk
packages installed, so that's not the problem.
Doing a
make menuconfig resulted in the same problem.
Anybody knows what can cause this error? I'm using SuSE 6.3; can't think of
anything else to mention that would be relevant to the problem.
Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance,
Ken
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Eric Yasuda)
Subject: Ownership of multiple groups, and being in multiple groups
Date: 29 Mar 2000 20:06:02 GMT
I have an interest in making a hard disk partition accessible to more than one
group, but am not sure if this is possible. Any suggestions?
Also, I am interested in putting a user into more than one group. Any
suggestions on how to do this?
Thanks,
Ken
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Error message while starting xconfig?
Date: 29 Mar 2000 19:07:01 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <8bti95$i2a$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> While trying to change some options in my kernel, I tried to start
> xconfig. After logging in as root, from the directory /usr/src/linux I typed:
> make xconfig
> and got the response
> make: *** No rule to make target `xconfig'. Stop.
>
> This puzzles me, and I don't know why it happened. I have the tcl and tk
> packages installed, so that's not the problem.
>
> Doing a
> make menuconfig
> resulted in the same problem.
Then /usr/src/linux does not contain the kernel source code, the top-level
"Makefile" in particular.
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