Linux-Misc Digest #146, Volume #24               Fri, 14 Apr 00 06:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: newbie: patching kernel troubles :((( ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: How can I recover my FAX32 partition? (David Efflandt)
  Which X-Server to choose? ("Peet Grobler")
  Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation ("Simon Cooke")
  Re: System.map ? (Andrew Williams)
  Re: Find and Mandrake 7? (Michael Albert Rowe)
  Re: Forgot my ROOT PASSWORD... (Sebastian Schoenwetter)
  Re: mp3 problems (Marc Andre Selig)
  Howtos... (root)
  mounting CD-R results in "No medium found" ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Howtos... (Andras)
  Re: Which X-Server to choose? (Andras)
  Re: System.map ? (Andras)
  Re: Cheap/Free alternatives to Hummingbird eXceed (Stefaan A Eeckels)
  Re: System.map ? (Andrew Williams)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: newbie: patching kernel troubles :(((
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 08:18:51 GMT

I have not installed Linux in a long time. But I have heard that some
distros do not have standard kernels or have kernels that are allready
patched. My sugesstion, download the bz2 version of the kernel, and
patch from then on.

jollyroger

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Andrew Tkachenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Good day/night etc..:)
> I have REdHaT 2.2.11. I need to patch it up to the 2.2.14.
> Got three patches, patch-2.2.12...patch-2.2.14 ;
> Read Kernel-HOWTO, README from 2.2.11 kernel Documentation..Followed
> exactly to instructions, but after some succesfull steps i got:
>
> The text leading up to this was:
> --------------------------
> |diff -u --recursive --new-file
> v2.2.11/linux/arch/alpha/kernel/alpha_ksyms.c
> linux/arch/alpha/kernel/alpha_ksyms.c
> |--- v2.2.11/linux/arch/alpha/kernel/alpha_ksyms.c      Sat May 22
> 13:41:43 1999
> |+++ linux/arch/alpha/kernel/alpha_ksyms.c      Wed Aug 25 17:29:45
1999
> --------------------------
> File to patch:
>
> i've tried 'patch -pN < patch-2.2.12', where i varied N from 0 up to
4..
> and also 'patch-kernel' script from /usr/src/linux/scripts...
> useless..;((
>
> help, please..
> thanx for advance..
>
> --
> ===========================================
> Buing a Pentium III you can reboot faster
>


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: How can I recover my FAX32 partition?
Date: 14 Apr 2000 08:32:17 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 05:30:05 GMT, George Zeng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I'm new in installing a Linux.  I installed Linux twice on laptop. My
>problem is that, after the second installation of Linux I lost my previous
>drive D under MSDOS/Win98!  I stored important data to drive D under Win98,
>so I really hope those data can be restored.  Here are some information
>about the situation.
>
>
>-Partitions before the second installation of Linux:
>
>Seq  LinuxDevice  Cyl-start Cyl-end  System
>1    /dev/hda1            1      35  -- SaveToDisk (hidden)
>2    /dev/hda2           36     293  -- FAT32 (Win98)
>3    /dev/hda3          294     309  -- Linux swap
>4    /dev/hda4          310     592  -- Extended
>5    /dev/hda5          310     407  -- Linux Ext2 (/)
>6    /dev/hda6          408     504  -- Linux Ext2 (/home)
>7    /dev/hda7          505     587  -- FAT32 (MSDOS logical drive D: )
>8                       588     592  -- FreeSpace (no display on fdisk/p)

You should have also noted the partition ID (type).  If hda7 is less than
8G it is most likely type b.

>********
>Main steps on 2nd installation:
>1) I deleted partition No.6 and No.5
>2) Re-create partitions No.5 (enlarge size), partion No.6 (decrease size);
>but the end cylinder number of partition /dev/hda6 was not changed (504).
>3) I created a new Linux partition by using the "free space"(No.8); the
>Start and End cylinder numbers used as they were, so not to affect the area
>of No.7 partition.
>*********
>
>
>-Partitions after the 2nd installation of Linux:
>
>Seq  LinuxDevice  Cyl-start Cyl-end  System
>1    /dev/hda1            1      35  -- SaveToDisk (hidden)
>2    /dev/hda2           36     293  -- FAT32 (Win98)
>3    /dev/hda3          294     309  -- Linux swap
>4    /dev/hda4          310     592  -- Extended
>5    /dev/hda5          310     473  -- Linux Ext2 (/)
>6    /dev/hda6          474     504  -- Linux Ext2 (/home)
>7                       505     587  -- dear drive D (no display fdisk/p)*
>8    /dev/hda7          588     592  -- Linux Ext2 (NEW, /var)
>
>
>*The No.7 partition can be shown as "Free Space" with the PartitionMagic;
>but I my data were exactly stored here before the 2nd Linux installation! 
>
>What should I do to restore my data???

You overwrote the entry for partition 7 (how can partition 8 be hda7?). If
you change any partitions in the middle, it is best to delete any after
that and recreate them in the proper order.  As long as you get the proper
start and stop cylinders, this should not destroy any data.

Note the start and end cylinders.  From Linux fdisk delete partion 7, make
partition 7 505 to 587, make partition 8 588 to the end.  Change partition
7 to ID b (FAT32).  Write and exit (w) and see what happens.

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From: "Peet Grobler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Which X-Server to choose?
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 10:43:02 +0200

Hi there. I've got a problem.

Installed Mandrake 7.0 last night. Can't seem to get X11 to run with more
than 16 colors on VGA X-Server.

I've got a S3 Trio32 AGP display card. I've tried the following servers:
S3
S3 Trio 32
AGP 2D/3D
SVGA

None of these works. What should I do? Is there somewhere where I might go
look for a linux X-Server for my card?

Please help!

thanks,
Peet



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From: "Simon Cooke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 08:51:20 GMT

"Mike Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Chad Myers wrote:
> > The one company that is pushing technologies like XML, technologies
> > for the disabled, internationalization/localization, enterprise
distributed
> > computing, client-side Internet application interaction, server-side
> > Internet application interaction, and much, much more: Microsoft.
>
> Pushing them, yes, but in which direction? You can get a full XML parser
today
> from Sun.

*cough* Microsoft was a major player (if not the major originator) in
XML.You might want to check the history of the spec on www.w3c.org . You'll
be surprised, by the sound of it.

Simon





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From: Andrew Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: System.map ?
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 10:57:35 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

If you do a 'make zlilo', it should change /boot/vmlinuz to
/boot/vmlinuz.old and /boot/System.map to /boot/System.old
The only problem with this is that the line 'INSTALL_PATH=/boot' is
commented out in /usr/src/linux/Makefile.  Either update the Makefile by
hand and run 'make zlilo', or do what 'make zlilo' should have done by
hand.



Andras wrote:

> I just upgraded to a new kernel, but didn't change the
> /boot/System.map.
>
> When I loaded my kernel I got the warning message, that the
> System.map was for another kernel version.
>
> I could change the System.map manually, but
> I didn't find an option in  man lilo.conf, or man rdev to instruct the
> kernel which file to use as the System.map.
>
> What do I do if I would like to keep two kernels in the same
> root filesystem and use lilo to chose?
>
> Do I have to replace the System.map manually before I change from one
> kernel to the other?
>
> Andras

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Albert Rowe)
Subject: Re: Find and Mandrake 7?
Date: 14 Apr 2000 08:56:26 GMT

Would this be true even with the cron daemon not loaded?  I disabled
the loading of any daemons that I didn't need to have running on the
box, cron being one of them.  And a better question is if it was a
cron job, what exactly is it searching with with find?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows) writes:

>On 14 Apr 2000 04:46:11 GMT, Michael Albert Rowe 
><<8d67qj$feh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>>I'm running Mandrake 7 and at what seems to be random times and by
>>nothing I've done my box starts up a find job and will run it for a
>>few minutes grinding at the HD and then will stop.
>>Does anyone know what is causing this and what the fix would be?

>This is a periodic cron job.  The times are not random; you can find out
>exactly what's going on by looking in the /etc/cron* files and directories
>or by entering "crontab -e" as root.  You can schedule the jobs for more
>convenient times, or disable them altogether by doing the appropriate
>things.  "man 5 crontab" for the crontab file format...

>-- 
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>There is no Darkness in Eternity         \##| Computers are lousy actors
>But only Light too dim for us to see      \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
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From: Sebastian Schoenwetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,nf.comp.linux,redhat.general,linux.redhat.misc,aus.computers.linux,alt.linux
Subject: Re: Forgot my ROOT PASSWORD...
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 10:58:39 +0200

Mefisto wrote:
> 
> that weird... i thought that it would ask you for the root passwd anyway...
> when shit like this happens, i usually have a boot floppy and a root floppy.
> then i mount the root partition manually and edit the passwd file...
> 
> asage wrote:
> 
> > I did this today!
> >
> > I found this advice in a newsgroup, and it worked for me:
> >
> > "If you forgot the root password, then it is eaasily fixed.
> > If you have lilo, type
> > 'linux 1'
> > at the Lilo: prompt."
> >
> > (Actually I typed in 'linux single' and it worked too)
> >
> > "It will boot you in to aa single user session, without asking for a
> > password. You should get a bash# prompt. Type
> > 'passwd root'
> > and enter a password.
> > Then either reboot (by typing "init 6" or  "shutdown -r now") or go in to
> > runlevel 5 (the GUI 'mode') by typing "init 5"
> >

It depends on which distribution you use.  They provide the defaults in
your /etc/inittab. 

You can look what happens in single user by looking for a line like this
(example from my setup)

[xx]:S:wait:/sbin/init.d/rc S
[yy]:S:respawn:/sbin/sulogin

[xx] or [yy] is an identifier you can choose to recognise what you put
in there, it is just a name

the first line tells the init program to perform the /sbin/init.d/rc S
command (single user startup script) and wait for it to finish.

The second line tells the init to launch the /sbin/sulogin program and
respawn it when you close it (exit).  You can have a different entry
here of a login program which does not ask you for the password.

===================================================================

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 Comverse Network Systems

 tel : +32-476-745653

 mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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                'Twas the Night before Crisis

'Twas the night before crisis, and all through the house,
        Not a program was working not even a browse.
The programmers were wrung out too mindless to care,
        Knowing chances of cutover hadn't a prayer.
The users were nestled all snug in their beds,
        While visions of inquiries danced in their heads.
When out in the lobby there arose such a clatter,
        I sprang from my tube to see what was the matter.
And what to my wondering eyes should appear,
        But a Super Programmer, oblivious to fear.
More rapid than eagles, his programs they came,
        And he whistled and shouted and called them by name;
On Update!  On Add!  On Inquiry!  On Delete!
        On Batch Jobs!  On Closing!  On Functions Complete!
His eyes were glazed ov

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: mp3 problems
From: Marc Andre Selig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 14 Apr 2000 11:00:02 +0200

Will Joyner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I am running a 250 mhz Cyrix II processor with 64 megs of RAM.  When I
> run xmms or gqmpeg and begin to play a mp3 it runs fine.  But as soon as
> I startup netscape or any other application, it slows the mpeg down or
> audible static is heard.

You may want to check whether your mpeg player supports buffering.
Typically, the problem is not that your overall system performance is
too bad, but that peak performance does not suffice.

E.g.: For mpg123 (which I use), you can give the switch `-b 2048' to
allocate a two-megabyte audio buffer.  You will have to read the
manual for your mpeg player to see how it is done there.

If that is not enough, i.e. your system is actually too slow, the next
step would be to switch to a more efficient mp3 player.  mpg123 is
very fast but does not have a graphical user interface.

If all else fails, you could always play the mp3 files as mono or have
the program do some downsampling.  Of course, these alternatives will
reduce output quality.

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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Howtos...
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 11:28:14 +0200

Hi all,

Anyone can tell me where to find  updated Howtos ?

Especially need ones about DNS, DHCP and Firewalls.

Thanks to answer to E-Mail.

Have a nice day.

Steph


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: mounting CD-R results in "No medium found"
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 09:43:26 GMT

Hello!..
I've got problems with CD-Rs which have more then one session on them.
My linux box (Debian 2.2, kernel 2.2.14) cann't mount them, it sayes "No
medium found", though NT box with the exactly same CD-drive can. There
is something strange about those discs, for the NT represents filenames
on them in the 8.3 format, I don't know why... But it's better then
nothing. OK, I tried to play with mount options, but in vane. Did
anybody has a trouble like this or does anybody have an idea what's
happening? It's really annoying...

thanks in advance, Valeriy


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From: Andras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Howtos...
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 09:50:24 +0000

root wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Anyone can tell me where to find  updated Howtos ?
> 
> Especially need ones about DNS, DHCP and Firewalls.
> 
> Thanks to answer to E-Mail.
> 
> Have a nice day.
www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO
> 
> Steph

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From: Andras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Which X-Server to choose?
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 09:51:09 +0000

Peet Grobler wrote:
> 
> Hi there. I've got a problem.
> 
> Installed Mandrake 7.0 last night. Can't seem to get X11 to run with more
> than 16 colors on VGA X-Server.
> 
> I've got a S3 Trio32 AGP display card. I've tried the following servers:
> S3
> S3 Trio 32
> AGP 2D/3D
> SVGA
> 
> None of these works. What should I do? Is there somewhere where I might go
> look for a linux X-Server for my card?
ftp://ftp.xfree86.org
> 
> Please help!
> 
> thanks,
> Peet

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From: Andras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: System.map ?
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 09:55:56 +0000

Andrew Williams wrote:
> 
> If you do a 'make zlilo', it should change /boot/vmlinuz to
> /boot/vmlinuz.old and /boot/System.map to /boot/System.old
> The only problem with this is that the line 'INSTALL_PATH=/boot' is
> commented out in /usr/src/linux/Makefile.  Either update the Makefile by
> hand and run 'make zlilo', or do what 'make zlilo' should have done by
> hand.
> 

ok, I can change the System.map by hand, or by zlilo, or whatever.


But what do I do when I boot up the system with lilo,
and would like to use the previous kernel, when I already 
changed the System.map to the new?


> Andras wrote:
> 
> > I just upgraded to a new kernel, but didn't change the
> > /boot/System.map.
> >
> > When I loaded my kernel I got the warning message, that the
> > System.map was for another kernel version.
> >
> > I could change the System.map manually, but
> > I didn't find an option in  man lilo.conf, or man rdev to instruct the
> > kernel which file to use as the System.map.
> >
> > What do I do if I would like to keep two kernels in the same
> > root filesystem and use lilo to chose?
> >
> > Do I have to replace the System.map manually before I change from one
> > kernel to the other?
> >
> > Andras
> 
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>         http://home.germany.net/101-69082/samba.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stefaan A Eeckels)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Cheap/Free alternatives to Hummingbird eXceed
Date: 14 Apr 2000 07:58:21 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kristjan Kristinsson) writes:
> Isn't VNC a _VERY_ slow alternative?
It's rather slow if you want to use it to display a Windows
desktop on another machine, due to the hooking of the 
display routines they've got to do on Windows. I find
it rather usable when using an 800x600/256 color setting.

Going from UNIX to Windows, it's quite fast, and a viable
replacement for a PC-based X server.

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From: Andrew Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: System.map ?
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 12:10:48 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I have a second lilo-entry called 'old' which maps to /boot/vmlinuz.old
Since I hardly ever use it (disaster recovery only), I can't remember if the
System.map issue occurs there.  No big deal really if it does though, the
system still works.



Andras wrote:

> Andrew Williams wrote:
> >
> > If you do a 'make zlilo', it should change /boot/vmlinuz to
> > /boot/vmlinuz.old and /boot/System.map to /boot/System.old
> > The only problem with this is that the line 'INSTALL_PATH=/boot' is
> > commented out in /usr/src/linux/Makefile.  Either update the Makefile by
> > hand and run 'make zlilo', or do what 'make zlilo' should have done by
> > hand.
> >
>
> ok, I can change the System.map by hand, or by zlilo, or whatever.
>
> But what do I do when I boot up the system with lilo,
> and would like to use the previous kernel, when I already
> changed the System.map to the new?
>
> > Andras wrote:
> >
> > > I just upgraded to a new kernel, but didn't change the
> > > /boot/System.map.
> > >
> > > When I loaded my kernel I got the warning message, that the
> > > System.map was for another kernel version.
> > >
> > > I could change the System.map manually, but
> > > I didn't find an option in  man lilo.conf, or man rdev to instruct the
> > > kernel which file to use as the System.map.
> > >
> > > What do I do if I would like to keep two kernels in the same
> > > root filesystem and use lilo to chose?
> > >
> > > Do I have to replace the System.map manually before I change from one
> > > kernel to the other?
> > >
> > > Andras
> >
> > --
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> >         http://home.germany.net/101-69082/samba.html
> > Simple Samba Solutions web page.                            ICQ 1722461

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