Linux-Misc Digest #146, Volume #26 Thu, 26 Oct 00 11:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: MS Access ODBC driver ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: uptime....I love linux! (Hugh Gibson)
Re: ftp tools for linux (David Efflandt)
user access (Joel Lefebvre)
Re: (Urgent) Linux-on-PowerPC Assemblers (nathan wagner)
Re: Out of room in /var partition, log file no longer loggin (aflinsch)
Re: Q: Suse: Where is my env_variable ? (David Efflandt)
Re: Copying an 7GB-partition to an 8GB-partition (Peter Mutsaers)
Re: Password repair via bootdisk ?? ("Chris Ripp")
receiving syslog in an application ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux on a ZIP 100MB? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Help for new Linux users (Murray Eisenberg)
Re: FOR ALL VOTERS - PLS READ ("Block Iron & Supply Co - CIS")
Re: Setting Up an ADSL connection under Linux (Rod Smith)
Installing Linux, Kernel Panic ("Brad K")
Re: kde2 rpm dependency problem. (Larry Autry)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: MS Access ODBC driver
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 13:01:09 GMT
Thanks, I'll give it a try.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Michael Westerman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> try finding a star office odbc driver.
>
> because st office can open access files.
>
> it saves a file that it uses to access the access file. (read write).
>
> it may solve your problem. i don't know.
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:8t700b$ftl$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I am looking for an ODBC driver to connect to an MS Access file
under
> > Linux. A free (or cheap) one. I can find things like ODBC bridges
> > that will let me connect to an NT box. I can find an ODBC driver
that
> > is almost $700 that claims to read Access (and scores of others I
don't
> > need). And I have found an SDK kit for more money than I can spend.
> > Any help?
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
>
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Hugh Gibson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: uptime....I love linux!
Date: 26 Oct 2000 09:24:53 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> To all,
> I just wanted to pass along a bit of information for the group:
> [root@eng_serv ron]# uptime
> 5:39pm up 105 days, 9:32, 1 user, load average: 0.10, 0.03, 0.01
Sure... good isn't it! here's mine..
# uptime
3:04pm up 131 days, 2:44, 1 user, load average: 0.19, 0.06, 0.02
and this is a 16MHz 386 SX serving multiple ppp ports!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: ftp tools for linux
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 13:33:21 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 24 Oct 2000 21:03:05 -0700, Te-Cheng Shen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello
> Is there any ftp tools like WSFTP on windows platform such that you
>can download the whole directory.
If you are looking for a GAI tool to do that, there are various ftp
clients that work like WS_FTP, from the old filerunner (fr) if you install
it, to others like gftp in gnome. Not sure if there is something KDE
specifc. Or there is midnight commander (mc) for the console, besides the
other console tools mentioned.
Although, I did not have much luck trying to recursively copy directories
with ncftp if the subdirectories did not already exist on the destination
(it would just create a filename of an empty file instead of a subdir).
--
David Efflandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.de-srv.com/
http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/ http://www.berniesfloral.net/
http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/ http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/
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From: Joel Lefebvre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: user access
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 07:28:14 -0600
Is there a way to limit the time of day a user can have
access to a system. Also, is there a way to limit how long
a user can have access to a system on a daily basis?
Thanks
Joel
--
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Joel Lefebvre [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hewlett Packard 970-898-7970
All opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily
represent those of Hewlett Packard.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (nathan wagner)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.development.system,de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc,no.it.os.unix.linux.diverse,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: (Urgent) Linux-on-PowerPC Assemblers
Date: 26 Oct 2000 13:44:44 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 26 Oct 2000 06:12:19 -0400,
Stack Offset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Please respond to this by e-mail *only* : I do not ordinarily browse internet
>newsgroups.
Post it here, read it here. We're not your personal research assistant.
*plonk*
--
Chance is irrelevant. We will succeed. -- Seven of Nine
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From: aflinsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Out of room in /var partition, log file no longer loggin
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 09:49:35 -0500
Villy Kruse wrote:
>
> On Wed, 25 Oct 2000 11:59:47 -0400,
> Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Vlar Schreidlocke wrote:
> >
> >> My machine is on 24/7. Could logrotate have stopped working?
> >
> >It could have, but I very much doubt it.
> >
>
> But it should be checked that crond is active. Without crond running
> no logrotate.
>
Also make sure that all of your logrotate entries are correct. I onec
had one that was not removing old files & kept creating new entries.
It also filled up var eventually.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Q: Suse: Where is my env_variable ?
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 14:08:00 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 25 Oct 2000, Anton Dischner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi Linux experts,
>
>i try to run a program as setuid-root.
>
>When i call it, the env-variable 'ld_library_path' which i need
>to connect to a Oracle-DB gets lost.
>
>It should be inherited.
>I put it in .bashrc in /root etc.
>
>I do not want to use sudo.
>
>Any ideas, hints?
man su
'su' does not inherit the env of the user you are changing to. Perhaps
you should use 'su -' which does inherit the env.
--
David Efflandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.de-srv.com/
http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/ http://www.berniesfloral.net/
http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/ http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/
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From: Peter Mutsaers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Copying an 7GB-partition to an 8GB-partition
Date: 26 Oct 2000 08:09:59 +0200
>> "JB" == Joshua Baker-LePain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> 6GB, and a third time to convert all FSs to ReiserFS. All of my
>> file dates and times have remained the same as before, and I
>> used the cp -a method all three times.
JB> Oops -- you're right. That's what I get for posting without
JB> checking the cp man page.
-a is a GNU, non-stdandard UNIX, extention. So, no wonder you didn't
know about it. It's one of the little irritating differences. When
Linux people get used to such things, and they move to another UNIX
once, they are confused not having such incompatable extentions.
Often they'd yell immediately that "LINUX is superior" and the others
are "LAME", just because they don't know the "real UNIX way" (which is
dump/restore, of course).
--
Peter Mutsaers | D�bendorf | Trust me, I know
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Switzerland | what I'm doing.
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From: "Chris Ripp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Password repair via bootdisk ??
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 08:33:39 -0500
be sure to pass 'root=/dev/<your root partition>' to LILO in the rescue
mode. Otherwise it doesn't know what it's supposed to be looking at, and
will boot off of the CD (with *it's* root) like you say.
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:8t9792$a61$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> HELLO, I am studying for the SAIR LCA and they say you can repair the
> Password file if the password is lost or corrupt. HOW can this be done
> when the Boot Floppy also ask for a Password?? I also tried the Rescue
> mode on the Red Hat CD and can only navigate on the Cd Rom? Anyone have
> any ideas? I zapped my password file on another pc to verify this.
> Before booting with the floppy I also zapped the MBR by fdisk /mbr But
> upon booting the floppy sees the install on the hard drive and continues
> from the hard drive..
> A Linux Newbie,,,, David
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: receiving syslog in an application
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 14:15:42 GMT
I want to write a program that reads the syslog from several servers.
The syslog of the relevant servers is redirected to one computer. On
this computer the program must read the syslog message, the server
which sent it, the priority level and the timestamp.
Now I create socket that listens to port 514 (standard syslog port),
and I can receive the syslog messages. But I don't know how I can
receive the other information I like to see (sending server, priority,
timestamp).
Does anyone know how to read the syslog ?
Thank you in advance.
Jeroen
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux on a ZIP 100MB?
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 14:25:47 GMT
Hi,
have a look at http://www.slackware.com/zipslack/
Ciao
Alex
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Filipe Bonjour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a ZIP drive (100 Mb, parallel port) and I would like to know if
it's
> possible to install (an obviously minimal) Linux on it, including
swap.
> The point it that I know several people who are curious about Linux,
but
> don't want to install it before trying it out.
>
> I found a HOWTO about this (ZIP-INSTALL) but it's from 1998 and it
describes
> the process for Red Hat 4.2. It tells to install all RPMs in the
"Main"
> block of /..path_to_cd../RedHat/base/comps.
>
> With RH6.2, which I use, this is way over 100Mb (and even removing the
> whopping 10Mb+ linuxconf and perl) it still remains difficult.
>
> Could anyone please indicate me if there is a newer version of the
HOWTO
> anywhere, or where I can find a list of the really necessary packages?
I
> don't need anything too fancy, though X (in VGA mode) would be nice.
>
> Thanks a lot in advance!
>
> Fil
>
> --
>
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From: Murray Eisenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.imux.help,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Help for new Linux users
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 14:38:52 GMT
Bless you for saying this!
I'm not in a position to help very much yet, as I'm quite new to Linux
myself. And in that position I _really_ appreciate what you say. But
I've been at computing for 45 years now (starting with assemply language
on a Univac I). And I actually DO read printed and electronic
documentation very carefully. However, the documentation for Linux is
often much too complicated, involves too many assumptions about the
reader's level of expertise, and/or involves long chains of references
to other documentation that leaves my head, at least, spinning.
Ken Schrock wrote:
>
> I am a Linux user and advocate...
> I am a former Windows user myself...
> I want to help other Windows users convert to Linux.
> I feel that this forum and others like it are poorly suited to this
> purpose.
> Most Windows users don't read manuals and aren't programmers and
> therefore...
> Answers like "RTFM", "Have you read the FAQs?", and "Just re-compile the
> kernel"...
> Are not good answers for Windows users trying Linux for the first time.
> This isn't helpful, feels like an attack, and drives these folks away...
>
> Which is not good for Linux in the short term or long run....
--
Murray Eisenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mathematics & Statistics Dept. phone 413 549-1020 (H)
Univ. of Massachusetts 413 545-2859 (W)
Amherst, MA 01003-4515
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From: "Block Iron & Supply Co - CIS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: FOR ALL VOTERS - PLS READ
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 09:42:02 -0500
My mistake, I assumed that Xenix was from Xerox because when I was in Korea
the Army unit I was with had Xerox computers running Xenix. Sorry :-( I bad
===== Original Message =====
From: "Richard Heathfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Block Iron & Supply Co - CIS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: FOR ALL VOTERS - PLS READ
> Block Iron & Supply Co - CIS wrote:
> >
> <snip>
> >
> > > Remember: Apple has been around about 24 year and offers a non
> > > Microsoft/Intel alternative.
> > And IBM started when?
> > > Didn't they offer the GUI first?
> > Macs 1984, Lisa 1983? I believe Apple stole from Xenix.
>
> <grin> No, Apple stole ideas from Xerox (Palo Alto Research Center).
> Xenix was a Microsoft attempt to clone Unix; Xenix came along a few
> years later than the Mac.
>
> You may wish to post a correction; I shan't, because I'm very new to the
> newsgroup.
>
> <snip>
>
> --
> Richard Heathfield
> "Usenet is a strange place." - Dennis M Ritchie, 29 July 1999.
> C FAQ: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/C-faq/top.html
> K&R Answers: http://users.powernet.co.uk/eton/kandr2/index.html
>
"Block Iron & Supply Co - CIS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:lWGJ5.3776$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8t70jf$gep$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > Jerry L Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > <snip>
> > > >
> > > >Poppycock. Bill Gates (Microsoft) never held a gun to anyone's head
> > > >to purchase Windows, ... . The multitude has done so of their own
> > > >volition.
> > >
> > > mmm... just wake up from a 20 year nap, eh?
> > > Didn't catch the DOJ stuff. The illegal vendor licensing plans, the
> > inability
> > > to buy PCs without WinX, regardless if you wanted it or not, nor the
> > ability to
> > > get your money back even if it was promised in the eula?
> > >
> > > Do a little research and birng your self up to speed on this subject.
> > > Ralph Nadar has some excellent posts on it.
> >
> > Might I suggest that you talk to a typical user: They think Windows is
> > great.
> That is the same as child saying pokemon is the best show ever. If you do
> not know anything else your opinion means nothing.
> >These are the very same people who snap up upgrades as soon as
> > released.
> Upgrade or new versions? win9x is not an upgrade to win3.x.
> >Don't ask your fellow Linuxer what he thinks about Microsoft,
> > that is a known.
> >
> > The last time I bought Windows, bundled with WinWord, was almost 10
> > years ago. It was installed on a system built from components; as all
> > my systems have been. There are a plethora of vendors who will custom
> > build a system, sans OS. In your own words "The illegal vendor
> > licensing plans" was a _plan_ and _illegal_. It did _not_ happen,
> > it could not happen: Building PCs is a garage operation. Think!
> And garage operations do not buy windows for $30 or less like Dell or
> Compaq or Gateway because M$ could not control them.
>
> > By the way you need to upgrade your memory: Microsoft unveiled Windows
> > on November of 1983, and it was not shipped until November of 1985.
> You are right but it was not anything like win3.0
> > I know someone who bought this "very buggy" software, his words.
> > Somethings never change :-) Would not that make Windows available
> > for less than 15 years. After all the IBM PC was not introduced until
> > August of 1981, just 19 years ago. I purchased 13 of these machines
> > in 1982, for my employer, with DOS, CP/M, and WordStar (of course).
> You had DOS & CP/M on the same pc? neat trick. Why IBM and not from
someone
> else?
> >
> > Remember: Apple has been around about 24 year and offers a non
> > Microsoft/Intel alternative.
> And IBM started when?
> > Didn't they offer the GUI first?
> Macs 1984, Lisa 1983? I believe Apple stole from Xenix.
> MS got there foot hold becase of IBM. IBM use MSDOS IBM controled the PC
> market. By the end of the '80s MSDOS was intrenched in business, who
could
> afford to change all there apps. Yes UNIX was there but most place could
> not afford them and UNIX only worked on proprietary systems. OS2 worked
for
> shit. Even Macs cost more than PC's and Commadore sales had their head up
> there ass. MSDOS worked on any IBM compatable PC. So
> > There have always been choices; even the choice not to choose.
> So in 1981-1994 at Best Buy(or what ever) I could have bought a PC with
> something other than MSDOS? I wish.
> > Linux is alive and well, thanks to Linus and others.
> >
> > I apologize for burdening you with the facts.
> >
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
>
>
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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Setting Up an ADSL connection under Linux
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 14:48:42 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
In article <0pHJ5.68287$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"router" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I don't think many people will be able to help me with this, but I need to
> install software for Bell's High Speed Internet service, and I'm feeling
> really stupid, but I don't understand the instructions they give me. Could
> anyone help me out? The instructions for the Linux install is at
> http://www1.sympatico.ca/help/local/bell/hsedownloadslinux.bell.html
IIRC, Sympatico uses PPPoE, which is a bit of a nuisance. Most people
seem to like the Roaring Penguin PPPoE client for Linux, but there are
other options. I've got links to many of them at
http://www.rodsbooks.com/network/network-dsl.html.
If your ISP isn't using PPPoE, then it's just a normal Ethernet
connection -- just configure the system with a static IP address or
DHCP, depending upon which your ISP uses. There are various Linux
HOWTOs on these topics, and they're covered in introductory Linux
networking books.
Note that all this assumes you're using an external, Ethernet-interfaced
DSL modem. If you've got an internal model or a USB-interfaced device,
chances are you won't have any luck. Few of these devices are supported
in Linux. The Web page I referenced above has a driver for the one
supported internal device of which I'm aware, although I hear drivers
are under development for at least one other. I've yet to hear from
anybody who's even tried a USB DSL modem in Linux.
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration
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From: "Brad K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Installing Linux, Kernel Panic
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 09:59:41 -0500
Hopefully someone can help me with this.
I install Linux (Redhat, Mandrake, and Slackware) and everything goes fine.
Then when I
reboot, I get the error message.
...changing IO-APIC physical APIC ID to 16
Kernel panic: could not set ID
In swapper task - not syncing
Then it just hangs. The system is a Dual PPro 150. When I boot to the boot
disk, it boots fine, albeit, not in SMP.
Does anyone have any idea how to fix this?
Thanks,
Brad K
www.photova.net
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry Autry)
Subject: Re: kde2 rpm dependency problem.
Date: 26 Oct 2000 15:03:40 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve) wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>On 25 Oct 2000 19:37:49 GMT, Larry Autry wrote:
>>I'm having trouble with installing the KDE2 base rpm on RedHat 6.2.
>>Every package I try to install gets a dependency error. Do I need to
>>uninstall something first? What is the order of installation? If I
>>need them, all of the kde2 rpm files I found are on my system.
>
>Try rpm --freshen whatever.rpm
>
>You're only upgrading right, not installing from scratch?
>
Right, upgrading.
I was able to install, but it seemed like a kludge. I followed Garry's tip
with the 'rpm -Uvh *'. Even with that, there were three dependencies
remaining. I didn't need the part of the package where the conflict
existed, so I removed it. The conflict was with the older screensaver
package. Should I have had to do that?
The upgrade replaced my default browser with Konquerer. Konquerer displays
a dialog box with the error "Could not create view for text/html, check
your installation.". I suspect there are still something missing, because
"Settings" >> "Configure" stuff is greyed out.
I'll be looking around for the solution to that one. Meanwhile, Netscape is
working just fine. Thanks for your help.
Larry Autry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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