Linux-Misc Digest #151, Volume #24               Sat, 15 Apr 00 02:13:09 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Athlon and Linux? (Rod Smith)
  Question About GNOME Menus ("Bracy")
  Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation ("Charles R. Lyttle")
  Re: How to downgrade 56K modem to v.34? ("Mark Swope")
  Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation ("Ermine Todd")
  Re: How hard to upgrade? (John Hasler)
  Re: time keeping correct (John Hasler)
  How to get cipher list for SSLeay?
  Re: Allowing users to shutdown (Juergen Heinzl)
  Re: Microsoft (Juergen Heinzl)
  Re: How to downgrade 56K modem to v.34? ("Pat Crean")
  From Header in e-mail =?iso-8859-1?Q?=E4nder?= ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: LILO 21.4 update (Cameron L. Spitzer)
  gmake[3]: *** No rule to make target `page/SUBSYS.o'.  Stop. ("RCS")
  Re: Q: migrate OS/2 to Linux ? (Anthony)
  partitionless installation ("Bill")
  partitionless ("Bill")
  Re: FTP config in Red Hat 6.1 ("Dheera Venkatraman")
  Re: Get rid of Win 98 ("Dheera Venkatraman")
  Re: 6 OS's, will lilo be sufficient? (Anthony)
  Re: Why linux will never go beyond geekdom (Patton Echols)
  Re: what is clock skew? (Bill Unruh)
  Re: Deleting Linux partition... (Robie Basak)
  Re: setterm and color ls ("T.E.Dickey")
  Re: LILO kill win-disk (Svend Olaf Mikkelsen)
  efax and automatically printing incoming faxes (Rod Pike)
  Re: Q: migrate OS/2 to Linux ? (Karel Jansens)
  Re: How to downgrade 56K modem to v.34? (Bill Unruh)

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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Athlon and Linux?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 19:01:54 GMT

[Posted and mailed]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        Junk Mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I am running RH6.1 on an Epox EP-7KXA with a 700 MHz Athlon and PC133
> RAM, and everything is running great; well, the on board sound doesn't
> work, but that doesn't really bother me. I made absolutely no changes in
> BIOS settings from what it came with, and have not done a BIOS upgrade.

I suspect you can get the on-board sound working using ALSA drivers
version 0.5.6 or above (http://www.alsa-project.org). These support the
sound features in recent VIA chipsets. I'm using them on a laptop with an
MVP-4 chipset and in an ASUS Athlon board with mixed AMD/VIA chipset.

-- 
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux networking & multi-OS configuration

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From: "Bracy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Question About GNOME Menus
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 19:06:15 GMT

Does anyone know where the non-GNOME application
information in the GNOME menus are stored?

I know it's a small thing, and not critical at
all, but the reason why I ask is that when I was
running RH 6.1, all of my non-GNOME applications
were either included in the Another Level menus or
not included in the GNOME menus at all.  I liked
that, because that allowed me to keep them
organized, and separate my GNOME applications from
my non-GNOME applications.

However, once I upgrade to RH 6.2, all of those 
non-GNOME applications are included in my GNOME
 menus and there doesn't seem to be a way to move 
them or remove them.

Is there a config file somewhere that I can edit?

Thanks!

Bracy

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From: "Charles R. Lyttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 19:11:20 GMT

Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> 
> Eric Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:HxrJ4.2775$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > The aforementioned mouse.
> >
> > Sorry, but I saw a similar mouse advertised in the late 80s.
> > It failed because it was too expensive, but MS did NOT innovate it.
> 
> Interesting.  Nobody else in the universe except for you has seen this
> mythical mouse.  You have no names and no way to prove your statements.
> Name the mouse and manufacturer or retract your statement.
> 
> > > Squiggly-underline spellchecking.
> > > Squiggly-underline grammar checking.
> >
> > So a squiggly line is innovative?
> > Spell and grammar checkers existed long before MS adopted them.
> 
> On-the-fly correct-as-you type grammar checking did not exist before.

I saw it. It was very clunky and very expensive. I think it was later
80s though. The Sun mouse was already out. This one was suppose to
eliminate the need for the special optical pad.

-- 
Russ Lyttle, PE
<http://www.flash.net/~lyttlec>
Thank you Melissa! 
Not Powered by ActiveX

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From: "Mark Swope" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: How to downgrade 56K modem to v.34?
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 14:14:03 -0500

You might try AT -v90=0   to disable .V90

mas


Kenny Zhu Qili <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8d7g93$3bk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi guys, I'm using kppp to dialup with my v.90 modem. I wonder if there's
way to downgrade my modem to v.34 so that I can connect to a 33.6 line. I
tried the init string AT&F+MS=11, but it didn't work. Please help me.
Thanks.
>
> Kenny




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From: "Ermine Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 12:23:57 -0700
Crossposted-To: 
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy

Are you maybe thinking of the early "3-D mouse" that was supposed to allow
for scanning of 3-D objects?

I also has one of the optical mice (for the PC) back in the '80s (still have
it actually - I've turned it over and use it as a sensor switch at the
finish line on pinewood derby race tracks).

--ET--

"Charles R. Lyttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> >
> > Eric Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:HxrJ4.2775$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > The aforementioned mouse.
> > >
> > > Sorry, but I saw a similar mouse advertised in the late 80s.
> > > It failed because it was too expensive, but MS did NOT innovate it.
> >
> > Interesting.  Nobody else in the universe except for you has seen this
> > mythical mouse.  You have no names and no way to prove your statements.
> > Name the mouse and manufacturer or retract your statement.
> >
> > > > Squiggly-underline spellchecking.
> > > > Squiggly-underline grammar checking.
> > >
> > > So a squiggly line is innovative?
> > > Spell and grammar checkers existed long before MS adopted them.
> >
> > On-the-fly correct-as-you type grammar checking did not exist before.
>
> I saw it. It was very clunky and very expensive. I think it was later
> 80s though. The Sun mouse was already out. This one was suppose to
> eliminate the need for the special optical pad.
>
> --
> Russ Lyttle, PE
> <http://www.flash.net/~lyttlec>
> Thank you Melissa!
> Not Powered by ActiveX



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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How hard to upgrade?
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 17:01:05 GMT

Leonard Evens writes:
> Also, upgrading individual pcakges could also change configurations in
> some cases.

Only when using a broken distribution that overwrites configuration
changes without asking.
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin

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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: time keeping correct
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 18:02:56 GMT

Chris Carovich writes:
> what's the easiest way to sync my linux box with our timeserver on the
> lan?  the timekeeper runs NTP

By installing chrony or ntp.
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to get cipher list for SSLeay?
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 19:30:09 GMT

I'm trying to help troubleshoot an e-commerce problem and have been asked 
to provide the cipher list used on our server. The server is linux running 
Apache and using SSLeay. I can't find any directories unique to SSLeay or 
any conf files with references to the ciphers used.

--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: Allowing users to shutdown
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 19:37:49 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>How can I give myself priviliges to shutdown or restart the system as a
>non-root user?  Everytime I try to halt the machine or restart it I'm
>prompted for the root password.
[...]

Interesting as it should to come up with something more resembling
to "Permission denied" or "DO NOT TRY THIS AGAIN".

>I'd like to speed this up, putting in the password is wasting precious
>seconds.
[...]

Several options. One is to put this into /etc/inittab ...
ca::ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -F -t0 -h now
... and now the famous Windows key combination will cause a shutdown
right now. You may or may not leave in the -F. On this machine it
actually does a reboot and the -F means force a e2fsck in the
assumption it was an emergency.

Next given a newer shadow password installation you can allow
su'ing to root without a password ...
root:juergen:NOPASS
... for instance. Using OWNPASS is slightly safer and there are
more options.

Some may prefer a shutdown login, the login shell does not need
to be /bin/sh, or change the shutdown binary's mode to 4111 or
4110. I would prefer 4110, change the group to some special one
and add my login to it.

As a last resort just switch off the machine and pray it comes
up again. Not highly recommended but lightning fast 8-)

[...]
>-- 
>     ___________               Beny
>   /   _______   \
>  /   /       \   |  King of the cranium,
>  \___\       /  /   Great one of the grey matter,
>            /  /     Magnificent one of the mind,
>          /  /       Baron of brain,
>         |__|           The one,
>          __                The only,       The Riddler
>         /  \                                   
>         \__/        http://on.to/riddlers-world
>
>"I'm a humble person, really 
[...]
I'd prefer a more humble signature here 8-]
Juergen

-- 
\ Real name     : J�rgen Heinzl                 \       no flames      /
 \ EMail Private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ send money instead /

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: Microsoft
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 19:37:50 GMT

In article <38f72177$0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Lenine Liebenberg wrote:
>Hi there all you deluded mother******
[...]
Hi chap, I knew I'd meet you here too.

>Just wanna tell you that Linux will never ever rule as microsoft is the
>richest, most established company in IT today.  As far as I am concerned you
>people are all fucked up to think that freesoftware will get you anywhere in
>this world.
[...]
Thanks for letting us know.

>If you disagree (which you probably will as you are all screwed up) don't
>hesitate in e-mailing me so we can sort this out once and for all and I can
>win you all over to a decent OS
[...]
I am afraid I am not screwed up, so you cannot win me over to a decent
OS.

So there another poor lost soul is going down the drain 8~|
Juergen

-- 
\ Real name     : J�rgen Heinzl                 \       no flames      /
 \ EMail Private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ send money instead /

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From: "Pat Crean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: How to downgrade 56K modem to v.34?
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 15:25:38 -0400

You don't have to do anything at all --- if your modem doesn't see the v.90
handshaking, it will automatically drop to v.34 when it connects.


"Kenny Zhu Qili" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8d7g93$3bk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi guys, I'm using kppp to dialup with my v.90 modem. I wonder if there's
way to downgrade my modem to v.34 so that I can connect to a 33.6 line. I
tried the init string AT&F+MS=11, but it didn't work. Please help me.
Thanks.
>
> Kenny



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Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 21:51:58 +0200
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: From Header in e-mail =?iso-8859-1?Q?=E4nder?=

Hallo

Ich m=F6chte den From Header in meinen e-mails, die ich mit pine
verschicke =E4ndern. Daf=FCr habe ich in der Konfiguration von pine
folgendes eingegeben :
default-composer-hdrs   =3D [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Leider erscheint immer die Fehlermeldung "Not Allowed to change header
From".

Kann mir jemand helfen ? Muss ich vielleicht die Datei /etc/sendmail.cf
bearbeiten ?

Bitte schickt mir ein mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED]

MfG
Peter

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Subject: Re: LILO 21.4 update
Date: 14 Apr 2000 20:17:43 GMT

I've been rather swamped, but this looks big enough to
finally update LILO mini-HOWTO.  Bug me if I don't get it
(and //judi.greens.org/lilo/) updated within a week or so.

Cameron


In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Leonard Evens wrote:
>John in SD wrote:
>> 
>> LILO version 21 by Werner Almesberger has been updated to support
>> booting from large capacity disks using a new 'lba32' option (-L new
>> command line switch).  Dubbed version 21.4, the source code is
>> available for download from:
>> 
>>    ftp://sd.dynhost.com/pub/linux/lilo          (developer's site)
>>    ftp://brun.dyndns.org/pub/linux/lilo         (an alias)
>> 
>> Or from the main distribution site:
>> 
>>    ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/boot/lilo
>> 
>> The lilo-21.4.2 release fixes problems that have affected a few
>> people:
>> 
>> 1.  The command line passed to the kernel was truncated at 78
>> characters if the LARGE_EBDA (Extended BIOS Data Area) compile-time
>> option was used.  (With today's big kernels, this was the default.)
>> 
>> 2.  If both 'linear' and 'compact' were specified, the second stage
>> loader would encounter disk I/O error 0x40.
>> 
>> Enhancements include:
>> 
>> 3.  The boot loader now understands octal.  The kernel has always
>> understood octal, decimal, and hexadecimal, but prior boot loaders
>> only supported the last two.
>> 
>> 4.  All patches from the RedHat 6.2 distribution have been applied.
>> This includes the RAID support.
>> 
>> This version of LILO will boot from partitions beyond the 1024
>> cylinder limit.  To do this it requires a post-1998 BIOS with support
>> for the EDD packet call interface.  Older systems may employ "soft"
>> BIOS support for these calls with hard disk boot software such as
>> EZ-DRIVE(tm) or MaxBlast(tm).
>> 
>> --John Coffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> 
>> EZ-DRIVE(tm) is a registered trademark of Micro House International,
>> Inc.
>> MaxBlast(tm) is a trademark of Maxtor, Inc.
>
>This is good news indeed!   I hope it will be included as the
>default in all upcoming Linux releases.   The 1024 cylinder limit
>seems to be the biggest barrier for naive users installing Linux.
>
>-- 
>
>Leonard Evens      [EMAIL PROTECTED]      847-491-5537
>Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208

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From: "RCS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: gmake[3]: *** No rule to make target `page/SUBSYS.o'.  Stop.
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 22:39:19 +0200

I tried to compile Postgres 6.5.3 on Linux Mandrake 7.0

After having followed all the instructions, and starting the gmake,
everything went fine
until :

gmake[3]: *** No rule to make target `page/SUBSYS.o'.  Stop.

I suspect this have something to do with making a objectfile SUBSYS.o, but
what
does it mean to have "no rule to make target"?

Am I missing some important header files or object files?

Any help greatly appreciated!

RCS



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Q: migrate OS/2 to Linux ?
Date: 14 Apr 2000 20:56:38 GMT

<jansens_at_ibm_dot_net> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony) wrote:
>
>Or keep'em both!
>
>Warp 4 and SuSE coexist quite happily on a relatively meagre 4.3 gig 
>disk and OS/2's Boot Manager doesn't mind launching Linux at all.
>
>You get the best of both worlds: the world's best user interface 
>(which, sadly, isn't with Linux) and the most stable operating system 
>the desktop has ever seen (OK, Linux is more stable than OS/2, but 
>"MUCH"? Really now...).

I don't have a chance to actually play with the wps in warp4 but
I have seen how it works, looks like it is a great improvement
over warp3.  Sometimes it look too much like windows.  I have been
playing with BeOS PE and the GUI act like a cross between WPS and
windows.  It work very nicely and the attention to detail is quite
high, I give it a 8/10.

Linux or Unix GUI is a different story, the window managers are
diversed and yet everyone is running X.  Of all the window managers,
Enlightenment is a real head-turner, but it can be a resouce hog and
it is fairly incomplete.  WindowMaker is a very good NeXTSTEP clone,
it even looks much better than NeXTSETP. However, WindowMaker
filemanager is still not finished and not stable enough, if you do
a lot of configuration it might die.  KDE is approaching 2.0 and
this one is the most completed of all, relatively bug free and use
less resources than Enlightenment.  Gnome is right behind, the GTK+
tool kit is good looking and has a look and feel of its own, unlike
KDE that look like a bad copy of windows.  Themeing in Gnome is very
nice, the Gnome team is doing a lot of hard work debugging it and
Eazel is using GTK+ to develop "Nautil" - an improvement over
Gnome and look promising.

You can have a look at some early screen shots here:
http://nautilus.eazel.com/screenshots/
http://www.helixcode.com/desktop/screenshots.php3 


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From: "Bill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: partitionless installation
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 16:20:12 -0500

What exacly is the "partitionless installation" on redhat 6.2?

Does it just run on a UMSDOS filesystem?

It doesn't have any partitions, so how do I access files that would normally
reside in /etc, /dev, /usr?

Can this be a permanment replacement for regular Linux, or not?


Thanks.




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From: "Bill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: partitionless
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 16:35:08 -0500

What exacly is the "partitionless installation" on redhat 6.2?

Does it just run on a UMSDOS filesystem?

It doesn't have any partitions, so how do I access files that would normally
reside in /etc, /dev, /usr?

Can this be a permanment replacement for regular Linux, or not?


Thanks.



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From: "Dheera Venkatraman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FTP config in Red Hat 6.1
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 21:39:21 GMT

Have you waited long enough? Mine takes about 5 seconds or so before the
actual login comes up. I don't know if this a security measure or what, but
can I make that delay less?

Dheera Venkatraman
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Chris Stump <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Greetings all,
>
>      I'm having trouble with logging into my linux box remotely using
> FTP. When I try to log in from a remote computer (using my linux IP and
> regular username/pass on port 21), the FTP client gets stuck at 'trying
> the connection'...from there it goes no further.  When I try to FTP to
> localhost from my linux box, I get a 'service not available, remote
> server has closed connection.' All of the literature I've read says that
> the ftpd should be installed and listening on port 21 from my initial
> Red Hat 6.1 installation. And wu-ftp is installed. I've checked the
> inetd.conf file and the appropriate ftp line is included (i.e. ftp
> stream tcp nowait root /usr/sbin/tcpd in.ftpd -l -a).  I also checked
> the /etc/services file and FTP is listed as being on port 21.  I simply
> can't figure out why it is not working! Are there any initial
> configuration steps that I need to take before I can start using the
> service? Any help with this matter is greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance to all those who reply :-)
>



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From: "Dheera Venkatraman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Get rid of Win 98
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 21:41:42 GMT

Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I know
> > that this partition of my hard drive has important "stuff" so I'm not
> > willing to mess around with it at all.
>
> You are not making sense.  How can you clear the partition without
> messing with it?   If you put Linux on it, nothing that was there
> will survive.
Does he mean UMSDOS or RH6.2 Partitionless install, perhaps...?

Dheera Venkatraman
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony)
Subject: Re: 6 OS's, will lilo be sufficient?
Date: 14 Apr 2000 21:51:18 GMT

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[Posted and mailed]
>
>In article <8ct97c$ish$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>       Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Dear linux users:
>> I have these OS's that I would like to use on the same pc and same
>> harddrive:Redhat,w95,w2000,FreeBSD,Solaris and BeOS.
>> Will lilo be sufficient to manage the booting of these operating
>> systems? If so, could you brief me on how?
>
>Win95, Win2000, and FreeBSD all require primary partitions. I don't know
>offhand if Solaris does, too. If it does, the only way you'll get all
>those OSs installed at once is to put Win95 and Win2K on the same
>partition, and LILO can't handle that, AFAIK, although W2K's boot loader
>might allow the two to coexist as a secondary boot loader -- so you'd use
>LILO as the primary, with one "windows" option, and when you select that
>option, you'd use W2K's boot loader to select from W2K and W95. Neither
>BeOS nor Linux requires a primary partition.
>
>You might be interested in my new book, _The Multi-Boot Configuration
>Handbook_, which has lots of useful information to a multi-booter. There's
>little in there on Solaris, but the machine I used for most of my testing
>had two versions of Linux, FreeBSD, DR-DOS, Win98, WinNT, OS/2, and BeOS.
>For more information, check my web page:
>
>http://www.rodsbooks.com/multiboot/
>
>-- 
>Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>http://www.rodsbooks.com
>Author of books on Linux networking & multi-OS configuration

I recommend GNU Grub as the boot loader.  First of all, Grub can
bypass Lilo to boot linux and you can still supply kernel parameters
to it.  If you run e2defrag on a root Linux partition using floppy,
you will have to boot from floppy and mount Linux partition to run
lilo if you dont use Grub, because lilo need to know where the kernel
is on the hard disk, however, Grub know the filesystem - even if you
defrag ext2 and the kernel file moved somewhere, Grub can find it.

I believe the w2k bootloader is installed on the boot sector of 
the 1st hard disk, since Grub is on the MBR, booting the C: drive
should lead you to the w2k bootloader for you to choose w9x and w2k.
It might be possible to use Grub to boot the w2k partition directly,
I am not sure about this but definitely worth a try.

Putting w9x and w2k on the same partition may not make much differece,
what is important is if you can access the w2k bootloader.

For BeOS, the PE version should be re-installed into its own partition,
then Grub and boot it.

Perhaps Grub is interesting enough to add it in your book.

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From: Patton Echols <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why linux will never go beyond geekdom
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 14:59:22 -0700


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> MrJack of LuLuland wrote:
> >
> > Say, hasn't this Enlightened Guy started flame wars here before?
> > I'd swear I've seen that name and flying brickbats both together-.
> >
> 
> Not only that but I don't think he's a very origional troll either.
> I could have sworn I've read the title of this tread before.
> 
> Looks like he's trying to start a flame by rubbing two icicles together.
> --
HMMMMM, looks like he's been pretty successful so far, time for killfile
. . .

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: what is clock skew?
Date: 14 Apr 2000 22:04:38 GMT

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> asage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> when I try to complile such a source like kernel
>> I  use to see these warnings
>> clock skew dectected. your build may not completed.
>> what does clock skew mean?

I believe it means that there are files on the system which were
compiled tomorrow (ie, at a time later than the time shown on the
clock.) Since timetravel is not a known technology, the makers of linux
assumed that this state indictes an error situation, and warn you about
it. 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robie Basak)
Subject: Re: Deleting Linux partition...
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 14 Apr 2000 22:09:38 GMT

On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 19:05:31 +0200, Ham Selv said:
>I'm having a problem with my linux partition, and need to get it erased.
>The big problem is that for the moment I can't run anything on this
>partition - don't know why.

What's the error message?

>
>So I have to delete it from M$-win98.
>How do I get Fdisk to recognize this partition, and how do I delete it???

Which version of fdisk are you using? The Microsoft version is
horrible and tries to hide all the complexities from the user (like all
their other software) and consequently you can't do much in it.
Try using the Linux one (off a boot disk if you don't have Linux
working - www.toms.net/rb).

>Do I need partition magic, or???

Not unless you need to move/resize partitions.

Robie.
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From: "T.E.Dickey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: setterm and color ls
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 22:21:25 GMT

Neil Zanella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I tried out setterm for setting the background and foreground colors on a
> linux console but every time I do an ls --color the colors are set back
> to white on black. Is this a bug or a "feature"?

there's a "save" option in setterm.

(feature)


-- 
Thomas E. Dickey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.clark.net/pub/dickey

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Svend Olaf Mikkelsen)
Subject: Re: LILO kill win-disk
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 22:16:52 GMT

"Pliev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Hello All!
>LILO kill win-disk
>I have a problem. I have two operating systems on my computer - Linux and
>Windows 98. After some incorrect operations, which has made one a crazy man,
>I have some disk errors. He (crazy)  changed files /etc/lilo.conf and
>/etc/fstab. And    Extended Windows  partition  has vanished! But Windows
>see drive(D), but say - device not ready, size of space equal 0 bytes. Fdisk
>of Linux see this partition, defined it as FAT16. May be  loader of logical
>partition is dead?
>Tell me please, do I can to recover my disk?
>Thanks! Dima.

One possible chance is to do from a DOS floppy:

findpart all +fat fp.txt

and post the content of fp.txt. Findpart is at my page.
-- 
Svend Olaf
http://inet.uni2.dk/~svolaf/utilities.htm

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From: Rod Pike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: efax and automatically printing incoming faxes
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 00:26:08 +0200

I'm setting up efax to send and receive faxes.  I would like to know how
to automatically print a fax that has been received.  Any ideas or
pointers?

Cheers,
Rod


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From: jansens_at_ibm_dot_net (Karel Jansens)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Q: migrate OS/2 to Linux ?
Date: 14 Apr 2000 23:50:53 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony) wrote:

> <jansens_at_ibm_dot_net> wrote:
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony) wrote:
> >
> >Or keep'em both!
> >
> >Warp 4 and SuSE coexist quite happily on a relatively meagre 4.3 gig 
> >disk and OS/2's Boot Manager doesn't mind launching Linux at all.
> >
> >You get the best of both worlds: the world's best user interface 
> >(which, sadly, isn't with Linux) and the most stable operating system 
> >the desktop has ever seen (OK, Linux is more stable than OS/2, but 
> >"MUCH"? Really now...).
> 
> I don't have a chance to actually play with the wps in warp4 but
> I have seen how it works, looks like it is a great improvement
> over warp3.  Sometimes it look too much like windows.  I have been
> playing with BeOS PE and the GUI act like a cross between WPS and
> windows.  It work very nicely and the attention to detail is quite
> high, I give it a 8/10.
> 
Ah, but Warp's WPS is _not_ a GUI. It's an OOUI, an Object-Oriented 
User Interface; the only one on the face of the planet (and probably 
in the known universe as well). It's bloody hard to explain without 
actually dragging you kicking and screaming in front of a Warp 
computer, but imagine you had an intelligent desktop that you could 
program with your mouse. Start from there and work your way up.

There is (was?) a guy in Germany who is trying to make something that 
resembles the WPS and will run in Linux. It's called DFM and I think 
the homepage is at

http://dfm.linuxbox.com

But don't shoot me if it's wrong. Off the top of my head...

No windowmanager or desktop manager in Linux has a OOUI. KDE comes 
somewhat close, more or less like Windows 95 came somewhat close of 
Warp.

But no cigar...

Karel Jansens
jansens_at_attglobal_dot_net
========================================================
"Hi! I'm a signature virus.
Pls put me in yr sigline and help me spread."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: How to downgrade 56K modem to v.34?
Date: 14 Apr 2000 22:50:52 GMT

In <8d7g93$3bk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kenny Zhu Qili <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>Hi guys, I'm using kppp to dialup with my v.90 modem. I wonder if there's way to 
>downgrade my modem to v.34 so that I can connect to a 33.6 line. I tried the init 
>string AT&F+MS=11, but it didn't work. Please help me. Thanks.

The two modems will negotiate it themselves. You do nto need to do
anything. If it does not negotiate then there are other problems.

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