Linux-Misc Digest #216, Volume #24 Thu, 20 Apr 00 16:13:06 EDT
Contents:
ht://Dig problems (phil hunt)
Re: Trouble with the Korn Shell (Eli the Bearded)
Re: Partitions, mount points and sizes ("David ..")
Re: NIC NIC ("Joseph")
Re: Isn't there a browser which DOES work? (G. R. Gaudreau)
Re: Partitions, mount points and sizes (Cedric Ware)
Re: Setting up a standart modem to Iwaynet in Corel LINUX OS Deluxe ("Alan Hounsell")
Re: linux install with NT? ("Joseph")
Midgard, Zope, Mason ...or something better (Jorge O. Martinez)
Re: linux install with NT? (Larry Irons)
Re: Changing screen resolution on Redhat-SPARC? (Grant Edwards)
Re: Red Hat Linux 6.2 & XFree86 4.0? (Torbjorn Lindgren)
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation (Roger Blake)
neighbour table overflow kernel messages (Tom Williams)
Re: DNS with DHCP (Apple Advertising)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (phil hunt)
Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: ht://Dig problems
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 19:46:24 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am trying to add a search facility to my website (www.comuno.com), so
that users can search the site.
I am using ht://Dig to do this, or rather I would be if I could get it
to work.
The problem seems to be that there are multiple websites hosted on the
box that I am using for my webserver. When I try to run htsearch, it
brings back search results for another website which is also being
hosted on that box. Here is my cgi script:
#!/bin/sh
# ph_search_h.cgi = wrapper for htsearch.cgi
CONFIG_DIR=/home/phil/comuno/dev/search; export CONFIG_DIR
COMMON_DIR=/home/phil/comuno/dev/search; export COMMON_DIR
/home/phil/comuno/dev/www/cgi-bin/htsearch
Note that the directory /home/phil/comuno/dev/search contains my htdig
database, my htdig.conf file, and my html template files (header.html
etc). None of these are being picked up -- does anyone know why?
I know that htdig is capable of running multiple databases -- it
says so in the FAQ -- unfortunately the FAQ doesn't say exactly how.
Do I need to re-compile ht://Dig and hard-wire it with my directories,
by any chance?
Alternately, are there any other web search engine tools that are easier
to set up?
--
***** Phil Hunt ***** send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] *****
Moore's Law: hardware speed doubles every 18 months
Gates' Law: software speed halves every 18 months
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From: Eli the Bearded <*@qz.little-neck.ny.us>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Trouble with the Korn Shell
Date: 20 Apr 2000 18:47:46 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc, Tandem Guy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello. I'm new to linux and have recently installed RedHat 6.0. I want
> to use the Korn shell rather than Bash. I made the appropriate change
> in the X-Windows Control Panel, and now I boot into Korn shell but I'm
> having a problem. When I start an xterm session while I'm in X-Windows
> my BACKSPACE and ARROW keys aren't working. When I hit BACKSPACE for
> instance I see 'CTRL-H'. This only happens if I'm in an xterm window.
I never use the arrow keys ("set -o vi"), so I can't comment on them.
As for backspace, it is just that the termcap for xterm uses 'del' for
backspace. You can change this with 'stty erase ^H'.
> If I boot the computer and I'm at the raw command line, the directional
> keys work fine. Also, on a related (maybe) note, shouldn't I have a
Sounds like it is termcap related, too.
> .profile file in my home directory which Korn shell reads when it starts
> up?
Want one? Make one. .profiles are purely optional. I usually use
the .profile to set inherited options like env variables and umask.
For interactive things like functions and aliases the ENV variable
should be set with the name of a file to process.
Elijah
======
uses a different variable to make interactive stuff optional
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Partitions, mount points and sizes
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 13:44:14 -0500
Eduardo Hidalgo Contreras wrote:
>
> I am going to install Debian and right now I have Slackware. One of
> the questions I have not found a straight answer to is this one:
> I am a home user, I'm not planning to make my box a web server or news
> server. I'm going to use it for software development, normal
> applications, browse the internet and to play games. Can somebody tell
> me what are the normal size requirements for the partitions, and if
> you can recommend where to split off the directory tree structure (ie.
> mount points). I have 5 GB for Linux (out of a 20 GB disk), including
> for the swap partition.
>
> Right now on slackware I have:
> hda5 329.02 MB swap
> hda6 271.44 /
> hda7 4647.29 /usr
>
> I have read the how-to's that explain about partitions, and the only
> example is about a little 386 that is going to be used as a news
> server in a 800 MB HD. :(
>
> Should I put my /home directory on another partition, can somebody
> tell me their configuration, or direct me to a how-to where I can get
> some answers.
>
> Thanks for your help.
> Eduardo Hidalgo Contreras
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
On one of my systems I have the following partition sizes.
partition size used
/ 152M 23M
/usr 988M 609M
/home 387M 25M
/var 296M 41M
/usr/src 243M 3.1M
swap 2 at 127M each
These are a few of the partition sizes with the amount used. On the
system these figures come from it has a custom built kernel and has many
of the programs which are included in the installation removed from it,
such as mouseconfig, timeconfig, kbdconfig, linuxconf and several
others. The partition sizes are large enough for a nice install but the
/usr is not large enough to install "Everything" included on the CD or
in the downloaded files. These are not the only partitions on that
system but should give you an idea as to what may be needed. The /usr
partition is where most programs are with /home being for your personal
files and /var is system files and logs. I do not play or have any games
on this system so I can't say that this setup will work for you.
Hope this helps.
--
Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538
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From: "Joseph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NIC NIC
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 14:56:36 -0400
I don't know much about cable modems and stuff, but tring the obvious...
Check the /var/log/messages file .
That's where the system logs usually go.
but do't just "vi messages" it!! That file could be very big.
Try "tail /var/log/messages" . That gives you the last few lines .
"man tail" will get you the manual for it.
a -l or -L is to set the number of lines to be seen.
good luck
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From: G. R. Gaudreau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Isn't there a browser which DOES work?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 15:02:01 -0400
On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, Penpal International wrote:
>Isn't there a browser for linux which DOES work? I work with netscape...
>Just like windows, keeps crashing all the time!
Well, you could try the KDE file manager/browser. It's not as sophisticated as
Netscrap but it works for me. It's light and fast and displays text and images
well, saves bookmarks, accepts or rejects cookies... yada yada yada, fairly
customizable. It's not a bad little browser at all.
--
G. R. Gaudreau
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.xoom.com/grgaud/
" ! "
-- Marcel Marceau
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cedric Ware)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Partitions, mount points and sizes
Date: 20 Apr 2000 19:06:51 GMT
>applications, browse the internet and to play games. Can somebody tell
>me what are the normal size requirements for the partitions, and if
>you can recommend where to split off the directory tree structure (ie.
I had summarized my views on the subject in a previous article:
http://www.deja.com/msgid.xp?[EMAIL PROTECTED]%3E
If it can help, here are the sizes of the partitions of my workstation's
hard disk (using Debian "Potato"):
olympe-~>df -k
Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda2 101093 37122 58750 39% /
/dev/hda5 396500 130229 245790 35% /var
/dev/hda7 1523192 903744 540732 63% /usr
/dev/hda8 1841459 430809 1315467 25% /local
Good luck,
Cedric.
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From: "Alan Hounsell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Setting up a standart modem to Iwaynet in Corel LINUX OS Deluxe
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 20:11:33 +0100
edit the /etc/ppp/options file. Comment out the lines that contain auth and
lock by placing a # at the beginning of the line. The lines will only
contain those words. Save the changes and dial again.
This worked for me. Good Luck
Alan Hounsell
Boomer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8dif00$mkh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I am running Corel Linux OS Delux.
> > Corel Linux is powered by Debian Linux distribution
> > and a set of complimentary tools & utilities from GNU.
> >
> > I tried to setup a External Robotics modem on COM2 with problems.
> > I am trying to connect to IWAYNET.
> > Primary DSN 198-30-29-7
> > Secondary DSN 198-30-29-8
> > When I use Linux OS to connect to the ISP(Iwaynet),
> > Linux/Modem sends the following commands
> > AT&F1S11=40
> > ok
> > ATM1L3
> > ok
> > ATDT324-0517 (The system dials-up iwaynet)
> >
> > then Iwaynet comes back with the following messages;
> > connect 4400/ARQ/V90/LAPM/V42BIS
> > then the Iwaynet ISP requests Login ID and Password.
> > then
> > ppp session from (198.30.105.198) to 206.21.106.14
> > beginning ........................................................... ,
> etc.
> > Then I get the following error.
> > "The PPPD Daemon Died Unexpectedly"
> > I tried the Prodigy ISP with the same problems.
> > Do you have suggestions?
> > I use this same modem to connect to Iwaynet and Prodigy from Windows 98.
> > Thank You
> > Bob Whitman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 1821 Willoway Circle North
> > Columbus, Ohio 43220
> > Tel: 614-538-1597
> > FAX: 614-538-8187
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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From: "Joseph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux install with NT?
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 15:18:07 -0400
1) make a 10 MB primary partition on hda ( primary master) that is totally
within 1024 MB
2) Install linux.
a) specify the /boot partition as the 10 mb just created.
b) specify otherlinux partitions to the other hard disk.
c) in lilo configuration , tell it to install itself into the /boot
partition and NOT into the MBR .
d) Lilo will by default Identify the windows partition as "dos" ,a
and place an entry into lilo for you.
When the computer reboots, you will get a LILO prompt. hit TAB and it gives
you the boot options type in "linux" and it'll boo tlinux. type in what ever
label you gave the windows , and it'll boot the windows partition. Now, if
at present, you are using the NT boot loader to choose NT, 98 , then that is
what you will see at this point.
PS: /dev/hda Primary master
/dev/hdb Primary slave
/dev/hdc Secondary master
/dev/hdd Secondary slave
logical partitions are numbered from 5 onwards.
eg : hda1 to 4 are 4 primary partitions.
hda5 onwards are all logical partitions inside an extended partition.
the numbers 1 to 4 looks like are based on the entry position in the
partition table.
For eg : if you have 1& 2 used up ( you have 1 pri and 1 ext < with logical
drives in it> ) , next primary ( assuming you have space ) will be indicated
as hda3 !
In short , your second had disk will not be HDA !!
Why did I say " put lilo into /boot partition and not into MBR" ?
because , say the installation does not work out ( you may need more
information than you have at some point in the setup). Load fdisk from a
windows boot disk, and set the win98/NT partition as the active one, and
reboot . you've got your old system back.
I've been down that route before, and I've done what you appear to be
thinking of doing. Only in my case, I had just 1 hard disk to play with, and
NT, and 98 in 2 seperate partitions : ntfs & fat32 . Try not to mess with
the MBR too much.
Also , if you plan on installing w2k, do it before installing linux. Because
the w2k installer corrupts ext2 file systems .
good luck.
joseph.
John wrote in message <8dngvb$obq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Hi
>
>Could someone advise me please - I have just added a second HDA to my
>system, so have HDA0 as a dual boot WIN98/NT setup and would like to load
>Linux redhat 6.0 to the second disc. How do I do this without corrupting my
>Windows disc, can someone advise me please?
>
>Many thanks
>
>John
>
>
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From: Jorge O. Martinez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Midgard, Zope, Mason ...or something better
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 19:30:07 GMT
Hi there:
I am looking around for an application server, and the above choices seem
to be the best ones (that I am aware of). However, I am not quite sure
which one would be best. What i wanna do...? a portal like site that is
going to run on Linux/Apache (of course!) and will have mysql db's, i would
also like to use php to interface with mysql and creation of dynamic web
pages...Midgard seems to be best for what i wanna do, but since i have no
personal experience with any of them (only read their docs and seen their
demos, though i must say i found more sites listed as using Mason, than
Zope, or Midgard), i would like to know the opinion of people who have used
any of those out there ...Ahhh! if you know, also would like to know your
opinion as far as performance and ease of use on the one app server you use
(some of the people in this project are not programmers)...
Thanks,
Jorge M.
--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/
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From: Larry Irons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux install with NT?
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 13:39:36 -0600
John wrote:
> Hi
>
> Could someone advise me please - I have just added a second HDA to my
> system, so have HDA0 as a dual boot WIN98/NT setup and would like to load
> Linux redhat 6.0 to the second disc. How do I do this without corrupting my
> Windows disc, can someone advise me please?
>
> Many thanks
>
> John
I installed linux to the second hard drive. There is a HOWTO for booting Linux
from NT on the web. Try http://www.linux.org for the howtos. Basically you
create a Lilo boot sector on the second drives boot sector. You then copy the
boot sector to the NT hard drive or a DOS floppy then to the NT hrad drive. I
named mine, bootsect.lnx. Then in NT you add an entry to the boot.ini file to
add Linux as a selection. Mine looks like this -
***********************
[boot loader]
timeout=10
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Windows NT Workstation Version 4.00"
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Windows NT Workstation Version 4.00
[VGA mode]" /basevideo /sos
C:\BOOTSECT.LNX="Linux"
************************
When you select linux, the Lilo boot loader will start up and you can boot from
the second drive. You have to seup Lilo correctly though.
Good luck!
Larry
--
Larry Irons
Senior Geophysicist
Tricon Geophysics Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: grant@nowhere. (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: Changing screen resolution on Redhat-SPARC?
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 19:42:24 GMT
In article <8dnijq$o02$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bala wrote:
>Hi, I've installed Redhat-SPARC 6.1 on a Sun Classic. I'm using
>the Xsun server which comes with XFree86. I can't change the
>default screen resolution of 1152x900. I want to run at a lower
>resolution of 1024x768 but there doesn't seem to be anything I
>can do.
You've pretty much hit the nail on the head: there isn't
anything you can do. The frame buffer hardware in a Sun
Classic runs at 1152x900 at a fixed frequency. It's not
configurable.
>I've posted previously to linux newsgroups but to no avail. I'm
>getting rather desperate now since the box is practically
>unusable to me on such a high resolution on a small screen.
You can try using bigger fonts (100dpi instead of 75dpi) or
telling your font server to scale things up.
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! ... Just enough
at time to do my LIBERACE
visi.com impression...
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Red Hat Linux 6.2 & XFree86 4.0?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Torbjorn Lindgren)
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 19:46:20 GMT
Jim Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Dances With Crows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> On Sat, 18 Mar 2000 16:04:34 -0900, Peter <<8b1933$ajb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
>> shouted forth into the ether:
>> >Is the next release of Red Hat Linux going to have XFree86 4.0
>integrated?
>>
>> Doubtful. 3.3.6 will probably continue to be the "stable" version for the
>> next month or 2, while 4.0 is in beta. SuSE 6.4 will include Xfree86 4.0
>> as an option, but 3.3.6 will be the reccommended install. If you really
>> want to use Xfree 4.0 now, it's not that hard to compile and install
>> it--the 80 or so megs of download is a PITA, though.
>>
>
>Actually XFree86 4.0 has been officially released.
>It does seem to have some issues for a "stable" release.
Yes, it's released, but do read what they say.. Most of what he says
is directly supported by official XFree86 statements, including the
fact that THEY don't consider it to be a stable release, and
effectively it *IS* very close to a beta versions.
Quote from the 4.x notes on the Web-site:
- If you're looking for a stable version of XFree86, you might be
- better off with the latest 3.3.x release. There is some basic
- information comparing the hardware support in 3.3.x with 4.0 in the
- driver status document. Please check there to get an idea if your
- hardware is supported in 4.0.
If you read that document (driver status document), you'll see that
there's a LOT of hardware that the 3.x series support but is either
not supported at all or only partially supported by the 4.x series.
This includes some pretty common cards, as an example S3, Cirrus Logic
and ATI cards! Usually the latest cards are supported by 4.0 for many
cards, everything else is either unaccelerated (ie extremely slow) or
not supported at all.
There are exceptions of course, both Matrox and Nvidia seems to be a
well supported by 4.0 for example... So people with nice hardware will
probably be able to run 4.0 well :-), but it's not enough to put as
the default X server on a major distribution.
I expect that it will be at one point, but that will probably be 4.0.x
something (or 4.1)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roger Blake)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.lang.java.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 19:48:18 GMT
On Thu, 20 Apr 2000 07:59:39 -0700, btolder <btolder> wrote:
>So the previous of Unix did?
Yes. I've worked with Unix and various Unix-like OSes for 20+ years now,
and Linux is definitely less prone to crashes. (Pretty remarkable considering
the abysmal quality of most "PC" hardware.) Unix was infamous for crashing
for no apparent reason with little more than an obtuse "panic" message
on the console, if you were lucky! (Much like the "Blue Screen of Death"
that plagues so many Windows users today.)
Linux is much improved. Although it retains many Unix-isms, it is considerably
more reliable, less arcane, and better documented than Unix of old. Not easy
for the novice to be sure, but certainly better than early versions of Unix.
>You'll be pleasantly surprised with Win2k's reliability.
There's really no excuse for *any* version of Windows to be unreliable.
By the time Windows was designed, stable multi-user, multi-tasking
operating systems had been around for decades. If they finally got
that part of it right after all this time, all I can say is: "Mazel Tov,
and what took you so damned long?"
However, I don't expect to be trying Win2K myself any time soon since I am
unwilling to purchase the hardware which that resource-hungry OS needs in
order to run. (Not to mention having to worry what the OS may be doing
behind my back when I'm not looking.)
--
Roger Blake
(remove second "g" and second "m" from address for email)
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From: Tom Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: neighbour table overflow kernel messages
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 19:39:58 GMT
Hi! I'm usgin RedHat 6.0 w/ a custom 2.2.14 kernel and glibc-2.1.3.
The system has been working fine for a long time and recently I've
started noticing "neighbour table overflow" kernel messages in
/var/log/messages. Coincidentally, the Apache 1.3.12 server running on
the box is NOT accessible. It starts just fine and binds to both IPs
(it's a multi-homed machine) on port 80 fine, but when I try to connect
using "lynx" on the Machine itself, I get a "Cannot connect to host"
message and "lynx" terminates.
I'm guessing it's related to the "neighbour table overflow" messages but
I'm not sure. Any ideas as to what this message means?
My system is a Pentium II-400 MHz w/ 256 MB of RAM.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Peace.....
Tom
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Apple Advertising <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: DNS with DHCP
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 14:51:01 -0700
The last time I checked, DNS was the name service like Ma Bell with the
telephone book. You still need to know either who to call or who owns what
phone number before you can identify the other side of the puzzle (ie,
phone number or name).
The way I have my home setup is to make DNS authoritive (which basically
means static IP's if you want specific names for the computers), then have
DHCP use DNS to map the IP addresses to names.
Someone already mentioned dynamic DHCP (which is OK for the occasional user
or somebody dialing into an ISP), but gives you a lot more administrative
headaches as far as administering the name<->ip mappings.
To update the DNS table, you basically have to rewrite the configuration
files then restart the DNS server. The nature of the beast <g>.
For some REAL fun, setup DNS, DHCP and YP-type services.
- Ken
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