Linux-Misc Digest #237, Volume #24 Sun, 23 Apr 00 02:13:01 EDT
Contents:
Re: please (John Hasler)
Re: Embedded linux license question (Christopher Browne)
Re: Dish Network's site is DOWN if you don't use M$'s browser. (ostracus)
GUI + HTML (Christopher Browne)
Re: Problem with gcc (Michael Powe)
Midi player wanted (Ken Arromdee)
InocuLAN detected the (Win95/Happy99.Worm) virus in Mailbox (Publ (InocuLAN)
v1.4.1 of the slang programmer's library released (John E. Davis)
HOT HD (Edward M Grill)
Re: bash_profile setting
Re: xmms problem (Chetan Ahuja)
Logins rejected after 2.3.99-pre5 compile (Ken Plumbly)
Re: HOT HD ("David ..")
what's wrong with this filesystem error ? (Norick Chen)
Re: Linux is Hard to Use: part 3 (Leslie Mikesell)
Re: lilo without 1024 cyl. limit (John in SD)
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: please
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 03:07:53 GMT
Michael Mitchell writes:
> please scroll up about 10 messages or so,...
Usenet articles do not arrive on all servers at the same time or in the
same order. In fact, many never arrive on all servers at all. Usenet is
neither a bulletin board nor an IRC channel.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: Embedded linux license question
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 04:32:48 GMT
Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when Gary Bjerke would say:
>If there is a better forum to answer this question, please direct me to
>it.
>
>There are now several Linux distros available for use in embedded
>environments, on a variety of processors. One of the frequently-claimed
>advantages for using Linux for embedded development is that there is no
>license fee.
>
>There are, however, license requirements. Linux is covered by the GPL,
>and as I read the GPL, it is required that anyone redistributing linux
>in source or object form must make available the source for all of the
>linux code used in the distro, which means also any new include files
>required for a clean compile, and any make files, but not proprietary
>object code.
>
>These are my question(s):
>
>1. Are you required to distribute compile and link tools? The GPL
>appears to imply that you might have to if these are not readily
>available for the target platform.
The mandate would be to provide the source code that gets linked
directly to GPLed code.
Thus:
a) If they patch the kernel to add some facility, the source code for
that patch would have to be made available.
b) If they create a custom version of init, the base process that runs
atop the kernel, there is _NO_ mandate to distribute sources to that.
c) If they create a binary kernel module that links to the kernel,
that may _not_ need to be made available.
In contrast, there is _not_ a mandate to provide compiler tools, despite
that appearing to be "in good taste."
If there _was_ such a mandate, then it would be forbidden to create
GPLed software that uses proprietary software. For instance, the GNU
Emacs deployment using Motif would be forbidden.
>2. Are you required to provide a way in which a new boot image can be
>downloaded?
I would think not. The mandate is to make available the source code to
the GPLed code and to changes thereof. As nice as other services might
appear to be, they are not mandated by the GPL.
--
"And if you could lie on the floor without holding on, you weren't
really drunk :-)" -- Preben Guldberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - - <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
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From: ostracus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Dish Network's site is DOWN if you don't use M$'s browser.
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 23:39:47 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Steuber
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[deleted]
>
> PS: No such thing as a WYSIWYG editor for HTML.
>
Amaya
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: GUI + HTML
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 04:47:27 GMT
Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when ostracus would say:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Steuber
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[deleted]
>> PS: No such thing as a WYSIWYG editor for HTML.
>
>Amaya
Amaya may be a _GUIed_ editor for HTML.
It is _not_ a WYSIWYG editor for HTML, because there is no unambiguous
WYG.
HTML doesn't mandate a particular display schema.
--
"What's wrong with 3rd party tools? Especially if they are free? What
the **** do you think UNIX is anyway? It's a big honkin' party of 3rd
party free tools." -- Bob Cassidy ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - - <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem with gcc
Date: 22 Apr 2000 20:59:26 -0700
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>>>>> "Mike" == Mike Stroud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Mike> I'm having a problem with gcc. When I try to compile a
Mike> program "gcc test.c" I get an undefined reference error.
Mike> Such as: /home/mgstroud/scr/test.c:10: undefined reference
Mike> to 'sin' I get a line like this for almost every line of
Mike> code. Can any help with this problem?
That looks like an error resulting from a missing #include.
mp
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Michael Powe Portland, Oregon USA
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From: Ken Arromdee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Midi player wanted
Date: 23 Apr 2000 04:51:40 GMT
I'd like to find a program which:
-- lets me have playlists of files
-- lets me use an external program to play the midi files
-- allows the playlists to be played randomly, playing each file once
-- allows the playlists to be played in order, stopping at the end
-- runs under X, but does not require that I be running Gnome or KDE at the
time
I haven't yet found anything which meets these apparently simple requirements,
which is annoying.
(Actually, what would be nicer would be if it plays any sort of files and
uses a different external program to play them depending on the extension,
but that's probably too much to hope for.)
--
Ken Arromdee / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / http://www.rahul.net/arromdee
"Eventually all companies are replaced." --Bill Gates, October 1999
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From: InocuLAN
Subject: InocuLAN detected the (Win95/Happy99.Worm) virus in Mailbox (Publ
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 03:00:54 +0100
The (Win95/Happy99.Worm) virus was detected in (Public
Folders\Happy99.exe) and was sent by ([EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shahram
Mehdian)). Action: (File was not Cured, Renaming.).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John E. Davis)
Crossposted-To: alt.lang.s-lang,comp.unix.programmer
Subject: v1.4.1 of the slang programmer's library released
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 23 Apr 2000 05:08:40 GMT
Version 1.4.1 of the multi-platform slang programmer's library is now
available from:
ftp://space.mit.edu/pub/davis/slang/v1.4/
and the mirrors:
ftp://ftp.uni-stuttgart.de/pub/unix/misc/slang/
ftp://ftp.fu-berlin.de/pub/unix/news/slrn/
ftp://ftp.ntua.gr/pub/lang/slang/
ftp://ftp.plig.org/pub/slang/
ftp://ftp.gigabell.net/pub/slang/
For more information about the library and programs that utilize it,
visit the slang web site at http://www.s-lang.org.
Version 1.4.1 is primarily a bug-fix release; the list of changes
since 1.4.0 is appended below. Major improvements over the 1.2 series
include:
* Support for multiple namespaces (both public and private)
* Dynamic linking of modules via 'import' (See modules/README).
* The interpreter now supports all basic C integer and floating
point types.
* Many more built-in intrinsic functions and improved documentation.
* Associative Arrays
* Binary Strings, i.e., the interpreter allows strings to contain
embedded \0 characters.
* A slang-shell program called slsh that can run slang scripts (See
slsh subdirectory).
Changes since 1.4.0
1. slw32tty.c: `v' key was not being handled on win32 systems. Also,
Shift-TAB will now generate ^@-TAB.
2. New intrinsic function: strreplace. This is more flexible than
str_replace.
3. VMSMAKE.COM: slstring added to list of files to get compiled.
4. slsh/Makefile, modules/Makefile: added patch from Jim Knoble
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to create elf versions (make ELF=elf).
5. AIX IBMC patches from Andy Igoshin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
6. autoconf/config.sub: tweaked to properly handle recent alpha
systems.
7. If compiling on an alpha, add -mieee compiler flags.
8. SLang_roll_stack and SLang_reverse_stack functions made public.
9. SLang_free_function added. If you call SLang_pop_function, then when
finished, call SLang_free_function. This does nothing in 1.X but
may do something in 2.x.
10. src/slrline.c: Keybindings for ESC O A, etc added.
11. src/slsmg.c: SLsmg_write_nstring: avoid many loops if an extremely
large value is passed (> 0x7FFFFFFF).
12. src/slregexp.c made thread safe
13. src/slsmg.c: Cursor was not always properly positioned when
after SLsmg_touch_lines called.
14. If terminal does not have erase to eol capability, then use spaces.
15. doc/tm/strops.sl: doc for strcat updated to reflect its ability to
concatenate N strings.
16. Documentation updated to indicate that floating point range arrays
are open intervals such that [a:b] does not include b. slarray.c
was modified to enforce this specification. Previously, whether
or not b was included in the interval was indeterminate.
17. src/slsmg.c: bug involving SLsmg_set_screen_start fixed.
18. src/slparse.c: parser was failing to catch misplaced `}'.
--
John E. Davis Center for Space Research/AXAF Science Center
617-258-8119 One Hampshire St., Building NE80-6019
http://space.mit.edu/~davis Cambridge, MA 02139-4307
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From: Edward M Grill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
Subject: HOT HD
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 00:59:58 -0400
Dearest PC users,
I have a Maxtor COMPUsa 10.2G 7200rpm ata/66 (only at 33) HD running
under Mandrake Linux 7.0 on a FIC VA 503+ motherboard and an AMD k6-2
450Mhz. I have successfully overclocked the CPU to 550 and a little more,
currently only at 450 because I am afraid of a situation. even at 450mhz the
HD is EXTREMELY hot on its underside. I don't have a thermometer, but I
can't keep my hand on the underside long.....it seems the heat is
concentrated on some controller on the underside of the HD, a small chip,
maybe controls DSP?
anyways, is this Hotness and high temp common? if not, why is it so,
suggestions? how can I change it, a case fan? I am curious because I don't
want corrupted data if I end up overclocking....which I know is risky
anyhow. just wondering if this heat is a uncommon characteristic of HD's.
eddie
--
*********************************
SUNYAB CSE major
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"beware of the penguin....."
(remove lma_ to reply)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: bash_profile setting
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 05:23:11 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Floyd Davidson wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] () wrote:
>>Buck Turgidson wrote:
>>>Sorry. Forgot the actual command parameter. It is:
>>>
>>>export PS1="[\u $PWD] $"
>>>
>>>
>>>Buck Turgidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>>>news:J56M4.27046$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>>> I have the following defined in .bash_profile to set my prompt. It works
>>>> great, except it doesn't change as I cd around the box, so it is obviously
>>>> useless. I used the same parameter on my RH5.2 box, and on an AIX (korn
>>>> shell) at work with no problem. But it doesn't work with RH 6.1. Any
>>>> ideas?
>>
>>export PS1='[\u $PWD] $'
>
>No no no.
>
>export PS1="[\u \w] $"
>
>For more information read the "PROMPTING" section of the bash
>man page. In particular, look at the \W escape code too.
>
>If you want color, you want to look at using \[ ... \], such
>as this:
>
> export PS1='\[\033[36m\]\h:\u \w >\[\033[m\]'
>
> Floyd
>
>--
>Floyd L. Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)
Yes yes yes.
1. Because it works.
2. Because it dosn't abbreviate the home directory to ~
korthals
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From: Chetan Ahuja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: xmms problem
Date: 23 Apr 2000 05:31:53 GMT
Chetan Ahuja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spoke thusly:
> Reid Sutherland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spoke thusly:
>> XMMS is fine. Sharing IRQs between your sound card and SCSI card is a
>> dangerous game. Best thing to do is move one or the other to another IRQ.
>> See what happens.
> Well...Maybe you're right. I tried freeamp and still getting the
> same problems. Since my soundchip is on the motherboard, and no way
> in the BIOS to change it's configuration, I'm not
> sure if there's a way for me to remove the IRQ conflict short of
> opening the computer and changing the PCI slot of the card?? If
> anybody knows of another, better way... please let me know...
> Chetan
>
Sorry to be following up to my own message, but there DOES seem to
be some sort of bug in both xmms and freeamp. I ran a bunch of mp3's
using mpg123 and a shell script ( simulating a playlist) and it ran
without a hitch... mutiple times... so.. I guess the hardware is
fine. I'll file a bug report with the xmms author. Don't have time
right now to fire up the debugger and wait for an unpredictable hang
to happen. In the meantime, if anybody has any idea why xmms is
showing these problems ( i.e. as described in the first post of this
thread) , please let me know. Shell scripts are fine but I'd really
like to get xmms to work properly.
Chetan
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From: Ken Plumbly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Logins rejected after 2.3.99-pre5 compile
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 22:30:06 -0700
Hi All, well, I am having some fun here :-(
I am attempting to compile kernel release 2.3.99-pre5
all goes well except that once the system reboots
(boot floppy) logins are rejected (or appear to
be) There is a brief error message which appears
to make a commect about the logins timing
out.
If I pop the boot disk out and reboot to my previous kernel
(2.2.14) everything works as normal.
I appear to have all the required packages as described at
kernelnotes.org.
Any ideas?
Ken
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
Subject: Re: HOT HD
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 00:26:53 -0500
Edward M Grill wrote:
>
> Dearest PC users,
>
> I have a Maxtor COMPUsa 10.2G 7200rpm ata/66 (only at 33) HD running
> under Mandrake Linux 7.0 on a FIC VA 503+ motherboard and an AMD k6-2
> 450Mhz. I have successfully overclocked the CPU to 550 and a little more,
> currently only at 450 because I am afraid of a situation. even at 450mhz the
> HD is EXTREMELY hot on its underside. I don't have a thermometer, but I
> can't keep my hand on the underside long.....it seems the heat is
> concentrated on some controller on the underside of the HD, a small chip,
> maybe controls DSP?
> anyways, is this Hotness and high temp common? if not, why is it so,
> suggestions? how can I change it, a case fan? I am curious because I don't
> want corrupted data if I end up overclocking....which I know is risky
> anyhow. just wondering if this heat is a uncommon characteristic of HD's.
>
> eddie
>
> --
> *********************************
> SUNYAB CSE major
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "beware of the penguin....."
> (remove lma_ to reply)
> **********************************
I don't use IDE drives so this may not be of any help and I don't find
the post I read about the ATA 66 drive but I thought that you only
switched it to run at 33 until linux was installed then switched back to
the normal operation.
Again I am not positive that this is correct. But may be a possibility
as to what is causing the heat build up?
--
Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Norick Chen)
Subject: what's wrong with this filesystem error ?
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 05:41:59 GMT
hi everybody, I had a faulty hard drive that has a bad sector (but when I
format it using checking bad sector option in mkfs.ext2 didn't come up with
any error). I am using that hard drive with my old computer as a masquerading
server for my home network.
I got this error from log file and I think everytime when cron runs the index.
kernel: hda: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest
Error }
kernel: hda: read_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=1382652,
sector=1382589
kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:01 (hda), sector 1382589
kernel: hda: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest
Error }
kernel: hda: read_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=1382652,
sector=1382589
kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:01 (hda), sector 1382589
how do I force the mkfs.ext2 to map that area as bad sector and avoid reading
or writing to that sector ?
my hardrive is 1 gig. here is the print out fromf fdisk of my hd
/dev/hda1 1 1 528 1064416+ 83 Linux native
TIA for all comments and suggestions from any help. Good day.
Norick
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Subject: Re: Linux is Hard to Use: part 3
Date: 23 Apr 2000 00:40:07 -0500
In article <8dq0s0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Eric Y. Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Linux is Hard to Use: Part 3
Very imaginative...
>EX: Oh yes, the old lilo
>010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010... bug.
>You did make a boot disk? Why did you want to go back to Windows
>anyway?
Expert? Boot the install CD, tell it you want to upgrade, hit
F2 as it is scanning for install packages. Note that you are
in a root shell with the hard drive partitions mounted under
/mnt. Chroot to /mnt, fix the lilo.conf file, run /sbin/lilo,
exit and reboot.
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: John in SD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.alpha
Subject: Re: lilo without 1024 cyl. limit
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 05:54:20 GMT
Joerg,
Similar problems seem to find similar solutions.
Since Nov. 1999 I have distributed a similar solution to the LILO 1024
cyl. problem, likewise using the EDD packet addressing calls for
post-1998 BIOS's. This code has now been updated to include the RAID
support patches and bugfixes up through RedHat release 6.2.
The code is at: ftp://sd.dynhost.com/pub/linux/lilo
and at: ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/boot/lilo
Werner asked me to be sure that 'linear' worked exactly as before, so
my extension to use 32-bit addressing is turned on with the keyword
'lba32'.
--John Coffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Sat, 22 Apr 2000 22:43:26 +0200, Joerg Baumann
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have written a patch for lilo.
>Now you can access up to 2 Terrabytes of harddisk with lilo, if your
>BIOS has EDD or EBD extensions (should be present in recent BIOSes since
>1998)
>Please, test it and report bugs to me.
>You can find the files under
>http://www.rommel.stw.uni-erlangen.de/~jgbauman/lilo/
>
>bye
> joerg
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