Linux-Misc Digest #304, Volume #24 Fri, 28 Apr 00 16:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: Web mail, recommendations for unix ? (Timothy J. Lee)
Re: Netscape/KDE lockups Corrupted files? (Will)
arp error ("lyn hines")
Re: Networking To Windows Problems (Steve)
Re: Dependencie msgs at boot (Steve)
Re: Installation Red Hat 6.2 with problem. (Steve)
Re: Is it just me, or is NFS between 2.0.36 and 2.2.14 a lost cause? (Steve)
How can I tell Linux-Intel from Linux-Alpha (U.V. Ravindra)
Re: I think I have been HACKED!!! (Andy Leighton)
Re: Web mail, recommendations for unix ? (chris ulrich)
From GNOME to KDE in RedHat 6.2 (Zexist)
Re: News server recommendation ("David Jacobson")
Linux & FreeBSD UFS (Files Invisible) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
local ftp install (Alex)
Re: I think I have been HACKED!!! ("Jamie Webb")
Re: Network Problem!! BRANDnewbie ("Joseph")
Re: How can I tell Linux-Intel from Linux-Alpha (Bastian)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy J. Lee)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.mail.sendmail,comp.mail.misc
Subject: Re: Web mail, recommendations for unix ?
Date: 28 Apr 2000 18:17:51 GMT
Reply-To: see-signature-for-email-address---junk-not-welcome
Declan Mullen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
|Here's my wish list:
| - Password entry for the mail boxes to be secure.
| - Use port 80 as this is the one port in a firewall
| that is likely to be open.
Try to get them to open TCP 443 for HTTP with SSL.
Then use a web server with SSL with whatever web mail
stuff you choose. IMP has been suggested. It works
fine under light use, but isn't the fastest thing
around, and requires a browser with Javascript.
There is also a thread in comp.mail.imap about IMAP
storms from IMP under presumably heavier use.
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From: Will <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Netscape/KDE lockups Corrupted files?
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 13:20:42 -0500
Mike Pepera wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I am a relatively new Linux user. I have been using the Red Hat 6.2
> distribution with the K desktop Environment.
>
> I have been having problems with Netscape locking up, and I am unable
> to use the kill command to stop the process. The rest of my
> applications, including X-Windows seem to work fine. However, after
> waiting 10-15 minutes, and Netscape is still sitting open, but not
> functioning, I try to logout of X to go back to the command line, at
> this point the whole system seems to hang. After waiting another ten to
> fifteen minutes, I hit the power switch and do a forced reboot. I know
> that this is not a Kosher thing to do, but I saw no other alternative.
>
> Most of my problems seem to have started when my cousin, a Windoze
> user, was using my machine and he had initialized over forty sessions
> of netscape which quite effectively stopped my machine. The only way I
> could do anything, was to reboot the machine.
>
> My computer is on a 100Mb LAN with my mother's Windows machine serving
> as an internet gateway using WinRoute, a DHCP/DNS server. My sister and
> her friend often use the Windows machine to access the internet at the
> same time as I am accessing it from my machine. Do to their complete
> lack of computing knowledge, and despite my repeated pleas, they keep
> shutting off the server software, killing my internet connection, and
> other activities which lock up the Windows machine( This machine only
> locks up for them, no one else in the family!) Could the repeated loss
> of the server on the network cause Netscape to lock up?
>
> In addition to these problems, I have had problems unmounting the file
> systems of my computer when rebooting the machine.
>
> Could my repeated destructive reboots of the computer have caused
> corruption of various files?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike Pepera
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
This seems to be a common problem for Netscape users. The only way to wack
netscape outta there is to use a kill -9 pid or a killall netscape. At
least the only one I've seen.
I think everybody is crossing there fingers waiting for Mozilla or
something GOOD to come along. In other words, netscape is memory intensive
hog, and likes to crash fairly consistently, especially with Java.
Two good points however, Flash 4 is out, it works great, and RealPlayer 7
is out, and it works great. So it's getting better.
Also, has anyone used the browser that's coming out in the new KDE2.0???
How well does it work?
Later
Will
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From: "lyn hines" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: arp error
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 21:39:01 -0700
Hello all,
I am trying to connect my RedHat linux to a Win98 box which
I have done successfully before. Unfortunately, when using tcpdump
I retrieve the "error" "arp who-has (machine name) tell 169.254.253.195"
I get the feeling the windows box isn't broadcasting its address?
I can ping both cards. I need a good reference for ethernet, arp, route
commands, etc.
Thanks for any help,
Lyn Hines
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve)
Subject: Re: Networking To Windows Problems
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 28 Apr 2000 19:43:12 GMT
On Fri, 28 Apr 2000 14:48:50 -0700, Chris Jones wrote:
>I am very new to linux , but understand the basic concept`s of it. But i
>neet to network to a win98 se2 machine to get it on the net. On the win98
>machine i am running wingate as the proxy program. And any try of pinging
>the networked machine (198.162.0.1) has no response. Any help will be
>gratefully recived.
>
Check the PPP-HOWTO and the Linux+Win95 mini howto. On my distro these
files are in /usr/doc/HOWTO and /usr/doc/HOWTO/mini.
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%HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee 0 pps.
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or http://start.at/zero-pps
5:46pm up 1 day, 19:47, 4 users, load average: 1.00, 1.04, 1.02
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve)
Subject: Re: Dependencie msgs at boot
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 28 Apr 2000 19:43:12 GMT
On Thu, 27 Apr 2000 22:09:49 -0500, Rescue9 wrote:
>I am getting some dependency messages at boot. IF I don't use these services
>then can I just remove the offending files?
You really need to give more details than this, like what dependencies
and what files. Best just to comment the offending services out in the bash
scripts, don't go removing files.
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%HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee 0 pps.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve)
Subject: Re: Installation Red Hat 6.2 with problem.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 28 Apr 2000 19:43:13 GMT
On Fri, 28 Apr 2000 00:30:05 GMT, Garel wrote:
>Dear Friends,
>
>While I tried installing Red Hat 6.2 under expert, text, and enter. After
>some time it terminate the installation and have to reboot. It shows:
>
>install excited abnormally
>received signal 11
>sending termination signals .... done.
>sending kill signals....done.
>
>At time after several trail on the lilo configuration that I only have IDE
>and not SCSI. It finally completed installation. But when I put up, the
>LILO only shows LI and hanged it there? What the caused of it.
>
>Please Help
Look through previous messages in this NG, this question is asked and
answered regularly.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve)
Subject: Re: Is it just me, or is NFS between 2.0.36 and 2.2.14 a lost cause?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 28 Apr 2000 19:43:13 GMT
On Fri, 28 Apr 2000 12:53:23 GMT, Walter B Kulecz, PhD wrote:
>I'm using the latest clients and servers from Redhat for each system.
>Works fine for a few days, but then eventually both systems
>effectively lockup on nfs transfers.
>
>Any clues?
Does this happen overnight or would it normally start happening
durin the day? I'm thinking that cron may be changing something
if it's OK and then andte a couple of days not OK or maybe cron isn't
doing something that it should be doing.
I'm sure you've been through the NFS howto already, there's a mount
checklist in there that looks useful.
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From: U.V. Ravindra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: How can I tell Linux-Intel from Linux-Alpha
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 18:39:57 GMT
Okay, here's my problem: I want to write a script to tell
Linux Intel from Linux Alpha, but that's not all I want to do.
I want the script to be able to detect whether the kernel is
a 32-bit beast or a 64-bit animal. The first part of the
task is achieved by looking at the output of 'uname -a'.
Is there a simple command/way to get at the second?
Gazillion thanks for the answer!
-Ravindra.
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Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andy Leighton)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: I think I have been HACKED!!!
Date: 27 Apr 2000 18:39:51 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 27 Apr 2000, Kerr Gibson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian
>moore) wrote:
>> Most likely you were being probed just like any system online all the
>> time gets.
>
>Hmmm, would these be some kind of automatic probes or just individuals
>playing around.
>
>> Go through inetd.conf and comment out every line if you don't know what
>> it
I would also recommend running something like nmap and seeing if that
finds any surprising ports are open.
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"... January is your third most common month for madness" - _Sarah Canary_
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (chris ulrich)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.mail.sendmail,comp.mail.misc
Subject: Re: Web mail, recommendations for unix ?
Date: 28 Apr 2000 17:38:57 GMT
Declan Mullen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
%% I would like to have a web server on my linux box that provides
%% access to the system's mail boxes and allows me to send mail.
If you don't mind using a different mailbox format from the
antique mbox format, I'd suggest you look into sqwebmail and
courier-imap. They are both small and fast and simple. have a
look at http://www.inter7.com/sqwebmail.
%%
%% Here's my wish list:
%% - Don't need it to provided access to mail boxes on other systems.
%% - Password entry for the mail boxes to be secure.
%% - Use port 80 as this is the one port in a firewall
%% that is likely to be open.
%% - To be cheap (ie freeware/shareware/gnu).
%% - To be stable.
%% - Its web pages to be small so that download is quick, or at
%% least configurable so that the pages can be made to be small.
sqwebmail is just a single cgi program that requires no extra
support from the web server. It can run as easily on https as on
http, and allows for users to have different passwords from the
unix shell password (so if it is stolen the badguy can read your
email but not use your account for other things). It (sqwebmail)
also works very well with lynx, and otherwise has totally
customizable html that seems quite reasonable and fast. The
whole package is gpl, so is free in every sense.
%%
%% There seem to be quite a few existing solutions available for this.
%% Can you recommend any in particular ?
%%
%% My linux is running on a slow 486dx100 pc with 32MB ram,
%% so i've discounted Sebastian Schaffert's excellent sounding "WebMail"
%% because its implemented with java and I don't think that i'll have
%% the necessary cpu grunt.
I'd avoid something like imp in this case -- it requires lots of
different moving parts to work and you don't need one of it's best
features (access to mailboxes besides the ones on your system).
Plus it either starts up a new imap connection for each http
transaction (so it's slow and sometimes starts lots of imap processes
on your server) or it attempts to maintain them and apparently
it sometimes gives the wrong connection to the wrong user (so the
user a reads user b's email for a while).
chris
%% I don't mind using a set of scripts that work with a separate
%% web server (eg Apache, Apache-SSL) to provide that functionality
%% I need. But there seem to be lot of these scripts available.
%% Can you recommend any ?
%% Declan.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Zexist)
Subject: From GNOME to KDE in RedHat 6.2
Date: 28 Apr 2000 18:25:32 GMT
Dear All,
I am new to Linux. I just install RedHat 6.2, including GNOME and KDE.
It defaults to use GNOME. I want to ask how can I default to start with KDE?
Many Thanks!!
Algo.
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From: "David Jacobson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: news.software.nn,news.software.nntp
Subject: Re: News server recommendation
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 14:14:14 -0500
I found an interesting and reasonably priced product called DNEWS and
DNEWSWEB at http://www.netwinsite.com/dnews.htm ... which seems to satisfy
reqs 1 - 3.
Does anyone have any experience with this product under Linux?
Thanks again,
David Jacobson.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux & FreeBSD UFS (Files Invisible)
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 19:09:50 GMT
Why can't I see the files in a UFS (FreeBSD filesystem)
after mounting it. e.g.
The linux side of the house can mount the device as
mount -t ufs /dev/hda[n] /bsd-mount-point
but linux cannot see ANY OF THE FILES.
Anybody have some suggestions?
Eric
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From: Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: local ftp install
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 19:30:04 GMT
Hi,
I have a working RedHat 6.1 dist installed on a PII. I have a 486 that I
want to use as a gateway, but has no CD access.
I have tried an ftp install, using the PII in which I will host the
RedHat
CD. A previous RedHat 5.2 bootdisk gave me the option of installing from
ftp, but 6.1 did not.
I am trying to do this using one of those PCNet adaptors (cheap network
cards that plug into the COM port). Has anyone successfully installed off
a
local ftp? Will there be suitable drivers for the network card?
Thanks for your time,
Alex
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From: "Jamie Webb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: I think I have been HACKED!!!
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 17:08:02 +0100
Some BIOSs will do a low level format.
Some hard disks have utilities to erase their partition tables, which has
much the same effect unless you're really paranoid.
-- Jamie Webb
Robie Basak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Mon, 24 Apr 2000 12:07:50 +0100, Hunter2097 said:
> >> : On 24 Apr 2000 00:50:15 +0100, C. Newport ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
said:
> >>
> >> Nowt, so long as you know what you are doing.
> >> The inexperienced might not get it right and leave some old stuff
about.
> >> Disk drives are cheap and have a limited life, so it's easier to bung
> >> in a new one just in case.
> >>
> >
> >Er, how can you format a hard-disk wrong?
> >
> >Surely if you can install Linux you can format a hard-disk?
>
> Nowadays doing a low-level format on a hard-drive is impossible.
>
> So what you must mean is partitioning/making filesystems. Knowing how
> to use fdisk is essential for this, so it is possible that someone
> does it wrong.
>
> >[snip]
>
> Robie.
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From: "Joseph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Network Problem!! BRANDnewbie
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 15:45:06 -0400
I'm making the following assumptions here:
1) your school's web server is on the local network
2) you use some sort of proxy for accessing the web.
3) you ( I mean the ipaddress of the computer you are using ) is alowed to
go outside :)
Most common reasons to Browser not finding an outside web site:
1) you should specify a computer as a gateway to the outside world.
On a windows computer, check the ip address, netmask and the default
gateway.
Make sure they are the same.
2) Your dns is not set up correctly.I think the file is resolv.conf in /etc.
( could be wrong. Long time since I did this...)
The file should have the "nameserver" entries.
3) Your gateway is using something like a proxy software. In this case, the
browser in question (Netscape) may have to be told to send all http
requests to the proxy's special port ( 8080 perhapsfor HTTP? ). Look into
a windows computer on how it is setup.
The setting are in netscape'sEdit\preferences ( You are using atleas
netscape 4.0 on windows right? ). Don't know 'bout IE,
4) The web site is blocked by the proxy. ( very unlikely )
Next :
try the following
go to a command line from linux ( use xterm )
and ping an address like www.yahoo.com
Note : ping will keep ping'ing the address untill you hit ctrl-C . This is
it's default behaviour. There are options for it to ping say, 4 times and
then just stop, but I forget what the parameters are.
You should not only get the ip number but also replies.
Problems
1) No ip number ( ping says bad ip address ) . Then
DNS lookup for www.yahoo.com failed . -> DNS is not setup correctly.
2) IP number is seen but 100% packet loss ( nothing gets through )
DNS lookup worked. ( yippieee!)
if DNS server is outside, on the internet , then the proxy is
allowing through DNS requests, but not letting through traffic on
port 80 ( port for HTTP) .
Now your proxy is not forwarding the web requests.
What is your dns set to ? IS the DNS server on the local network ? or
outside ?
Also , try this : find a windows computer with access to the web, make sure
it works. Then shut it down, and set the linux computer's ip address to
that of the windows computer that you just shut down. See if you can get
things working .
Just make sure you change the linux comp's ip number before starting up the
other windows one!
PS: It would help if you could post some more info on your setup.
Don't give up on it yet . Linux is not windows . It takes a little reading,
understanding and discussing to handle it properly. And if you screw up,
it's forgiving enough that you don't have to reformat and reinstall at every
turn :) . Also every time you change network settings, you don't have to
reboot .
Hang in there.
joseph
Noah Kuhn wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Hello!!
>I'm a Linux newbie running Mandrake 7.0 and am trying to set up my
>internet connection through my school's network. I have setup the
>settings such that when I open Netscape and go to my school's website,
>everything works fine, pages load like twice to 3 times faster than in
>windows so i'm very excited, the problem is that I cannot access pages
>beyone my internal www. I get an error that the Server is Unreachable
>and there is a TCP error. I was told there could be many reasons for
>this (firewall, invisible proxy etc.) However, no one I spoke to in irc
>could figure out my problem. If anyone has ever seen this problem
>before PLEASE help. I may even be putting the wrong values in the DNS
>setup in Mandrake. I took the values from my winipcfg in win98 and put
>them in where I thought they went. Anyway, any response would be very
>appreciated, i don't want to have to give up on Linux just because of
>this. Thank You!!
>
> Noah
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bastian)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: How can I tell Linux-Intel from Linux-Alpha
Date: 28 Apr 2000 20:03:34 GMT
On Fri, 28 Apr 2000 18:39:57 GMT, U.V. Ravindra wrote:
>Okay, here's my problem: I want to write a script to tell
>Linux Intel from Linux Alpha, but that's not all I want to do.
>I want the script to be able to detect whether the kernel is
>a 32-bit beast or a 64-bit animal. The first part of the
>task is achieved by looking at the output of 'uname -a'.
>
>Is there a simple command/way to get at the second?
>
>Gazillion thanks for the answer!
>
>-Ravindra.
To determine the processor, "uname -m" is a bit better, because
it produces less output (just the processor type, that's it).
As for 32bit/64bit I don't know, and I've never heard of a
solution, but you could add a kernel parameter with lilo, just
saying "32bit" or "64bit". The /proc/cmdline file will tell you
then.
Bastian
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