Linux-Misc Digest #307, Volume #24 Sat, 29 Apr 00 00:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: How can I tell Linux-Intel from Linux-Alpha (U.V. Ravindra)
Re: LILO Woes with Redhat 6.2 (2.2.14 Kernel) (Andries Brouwer)
'taper' questions.. ("ghost")
help - auto logout question ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: LSL uses Microsoft Outlook!!! (Christopher Browne)
Problem with running windows98 and linux5.2 (jason)
Re: Cron not working (David Efflandt)
Re: Linux Journal Python supplement (John Scudder)
Re: Strange kernel problems (Dances With Crows)
Microsoft case -- Remedies (Roger Marquis)
IPX connectivity problem (Ken R.)
Re: Disabling the boot logo (David Efflandt)
Re: how to change system time?? (David Efflandt)
Re: Netscape/KDE lockups Corrupted files? (David Efflandt)
Re: boot/mount root filesystem with cdrom ("Irv Segal")
Strange Netscape Behavior with RH 6.2 (Charles Tryon)
Wine no longer work under RH 6.2 (Yibing Fan)
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From: U.V. Ravindra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: How can I tell Linux-Intel from Linux-Alpha
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 01:00:46 GMT
It works :) Thanks. There isn't a pre-existing utility
which will give me this, is there? I mean, I don't want
to distribute the compiled binary on to *all* my current
(and - more dreadful - future) Linux machines, if I have
an alternative.
Thanks!
:-R
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Apr 2000 21:13:21 GMT,
> U.V. Ravindra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Thanks for the note, but `uname -m` on Intel returns "i?86" (?=4/5/6
etc)
> >on Compaq-Alpha returns "alpha", which still means I have to *know*
that
> >'Alpha' is a 64-bit processor and the i?86-s are 32-bit chips. I
could
> >easily hardcode this in my script with a case-esac, but that may fall
> >apart when the ia64 comes out! :)
>
> sizeof(void *) * CHAR_BIT
> ?
>
> it seems to work on my i686 box, but i don't have a 64 bit machine to
test
> it on.
>
> --
> Chance is irrelevant. We will succeed. -- Seven of Nine
>
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Before you buy.
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From: Andries Brouwer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO Woes with Redhat 6.2 (2.2.14 Kernel)
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 01:06:03 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (BrentBoz) writes:
: I'm a professional driver tester, and at work we put 4 OS'es on our machines (4
: partitions on 8 gig hard drives). Our usual procedure is to place Linux (Red
: Hat) on partition 4 (because it's usually out past the 1023-cylinder boot
: limit, and we can boot it with a LILO floppy).
: SCO UnixWare 7.1.1 is usually on the first partition (this will be important
: later on in the problem description), with SCO 2.x.x on partition 2, and
: Solaris X86 on partition 3. All these will boot just fine by fdisking (in the
: OS of your choice) and making that partition active.
: Red Hat 6.1 (2.2.12-20 kernel) never seemed to have a problem, we just made a
: LILO floppy to boot the Linux partition.
: I did a fresh install of Red Hat 6.2 (2.2.14 kernel), and all of a sudden,
: linux panics on boot! The kernel unpacks OK, and everything appears to be
: going normal, until it searches out partitions. Now, instead of having hda1,
: hda2, hda3, and <hda 5 hda 6> (hda 5 is root linux partition, hda 6 is swap
: space),
: it appears that whatever the partition finder mechanism is is now smart enough
: to sniff out the UnixWare file system subpartitions in the UnixWare 7.1.1
: partition, and you end up with <hda 2 hda 3 hda 4 hda 5 hda 6 hda 7> hda 8 hda
: 9 <hda 11 hda 12>, and subesquently, you get a kernel panic because LILO can't
: find the Linux partition. I do install LILO in the linux partition (not on the
: MBR, because this causes problems for both Solaris and UnixWare, both of which
: will stage an MBR holy war if left to their own devices ;^). I have tried
: changing the boot partition in lilo.conf (on the boot floppy) from hda 5 to hda
: 11, and the same thing still happens.
: Help! I've gotta get these partitions bootable again...
Yes, partition numbers depend on whether the kernel knows about
BSD, solaris, unixware. Since 2.3.40 things are a bit better:
first the DOS-type partitions are found, and then the BSD, solaris,
unixware subpartitions. Thus, the numbering of the DOS-type partitions
is now stable.
It is not entirely clear to me what your boot procedure is:
does LILO on the floppy boot LILO on the Linux partition which again
boots a Linux kernel? Anyway, you have to make sure that boot and
root partition are set correctly.
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From: "ghost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 'taper' questions..
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 10:34:34 +0900
I'd like to use 'taper' as a backup program,
but met some problem using it.
1. How can I do 'multi-volume' backup to disk drive when
I use HDD as a backup device rather than tape?
Multi-volume issue is important because there's maximum
file size in linux (2GB). Taper looks it doesn't know how to
make the next volume file if the first archive file size become
the maximum.
2. How can I run 'taper' in command line?
I know there're other executables called 'bg_backup' and 'bg_restore'
which is to be used as background backing-up and restoring.
But I can't find any usage of them.
Thanks!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: help - auto logout question
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 21:04:58 -0500
I have several networked Linux boxes and run them from a single screen.
When I do a rlogin to access a system how do prevent being logged out
automatically if I am inactive for a while? I did not have this
auto-logout problem with older distributions but only with my latest
one.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: LSL uses Microsoft Outlook!!!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 02:21:00 GMT
Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when Tim Holmes would say:
>I just got an order confirmation of some Linux
>CD's from "Linux" Systems Labs. When I tried to read
>the jumbled mess of lines, I thought I'd check the
>headers. Sure enough, Microsoft Outlook. What other
>program could do such a lousy job of sending email.
>
>I bet they've got a nice little Windows NT office
>network there. I should have put in my order for
>the new Windows Me. I bet they have it in stock.
>
>What are they doing using this stuff? Remind me never
>to do business with those dopes again.
LSL has been a longstanding Linux supporting company; it is unfortunate
that there have not been prepackaged applications for Linux for building
eCommerce systems.
If you are unhappy with LSL, you may want to contact LinuxCentral,
who are based in the same area (Michigan), and were founded by some
folk formerly from LSL.
--
"A good rule of thumb is never to use PROG under any circumstances for
anything." -- Dave Moon
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - - <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
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From: jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problem with running windows98 and linux5.2
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 02:30:02 GMT
After installing linux5.2, everytime i double click 'my computer', it
takes several minutes to open it. when i use the internet explorer, it's
even worst. it takes ages to open the site. everytime i click the links,
it has the same problem. i'm using overclocked pentium pro 200mhz, 32mb
ram and 2.4gb quantum hard disk. please help.
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Cron not working
Date: 29 Apr 2000 02:37:02 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 28 Apr 2000 17:52:59 -0700, Rask0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Anyplace to go to look for ways to troubleshoot cron not working?
First do a 'ps aux | grep crond' and see if it is running. If it is, you
have to realize that it is run with minimal environment. So you might
either need to set your PATH or use full paths to programs, scripts or
programs in scripts, not to mention files accessed.
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From: John Scudder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Journal Python supplement
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 22:15:59 -0500
Yes, I thought that was a little unusual for Linux Journal...
In keeping with the general Monty Python theme..the cover is from the 70's TV
series opening where a similarly attired Michael Palin said " It's...." and
then the Monty Python theme started.
Albert Hopkins wrote:
> On 28 Apr 2000 01:56:37 GMT, A.M. Kuchling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I've seen no discussion of the Python supplement included with this
> >month's Linux journal, either in comp.lang.python or in any of the
> >Linux groups. What did people think of it?
>
> Well, I haven't really looked at it yet, but I know a lot of non Linux/Python
> people commented about the cover, which I was rather ashamed of.
>
> --
> Albert Hopkins
> Sr. Systems Specialist
> Dynacare Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Strange kernel problems
Date: 28 Apr 2000 23:00:36 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 29 Apr 2000 00:32:52 GMT, Stewart Honsberger
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
shouted forth into the ether:
>'Dances With <something>' suggested that I remove my old modules and re-
>compile them. I did that, but got error messages on my next boot.
(something="Crows", at least for /me...)
"depmod -a" tends to cure those error messages in my limited experience.
>After quite a bit of song and dance, I discovered a couple of things. Firstly,
>I had modules.conf with a softlink called conf.modules linking to it. That
>appears to have been the cause of that error message. Secondly, even though
>I have support for the NE2000 Ethernet adapter compiled into the kernel, I
>HAVE to have ne.o in /lib/modules/2.2.14/net.
>I'm not sure if any of this makes any sense to anybody, but I'm sure as hell
>mystified at this point.
Yep. conf.modules attempts to load things as modules, and if NE2000
support is in kernel, it won't recognize that but will attempt to load the
modules anyway. This can be fixed with the line "alias eth0 off" which
will prevent the kernel module loader from trying to get at the ne.o
module--it'll just use the in-kernel support. At least, that's how it
worked when I had serial support compiled into the kernel instead of as a
module. Nothing bad happened, just silly error messages on boot... I
think attempting to insmod the ne.o module when it's already loaded could
cause odd things to happen, though.
>Also - could somebody point me to a list of just exactly what all of the
>char-major-## devices ARE? char-major-4 can't be located, which is normal
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/devices.txt
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| Programmers are playwrights
There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| Computers are lousy actors
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.
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From: Roger Marquis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Microsoft case -- Remedies
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 03:03:54 GMT
The DOJ's Proposed Final Judgment can be read at:
http://www.mercurycenter.com/business/microsoft/trial/filings/remedy042800.htm
It proposes breaking Microsoft into 2 parts, an Applications business
and an Operating Systems business.
On first reading it appears to address all of the major anti-trust
issues with one large exception: clause 2e. This exempts the
Applications business from compliance with most of the restrictions
i.e, contractual tying, use of unpublished APIs, knowingly interfering
with the performance of non-Widows applications, binding Middleware,
etc. This large loophole could render many of the document's
objectives impracticable.
Second, what is the objective of limiting the judgement to 10 years
(6c), and just 3 years for the restrictions defined in section 3?
This timeframe wasn't imposed on Standard Oil or AT&T.
--
Roger Marquis
Roble Systems Consulting
http://www.roble.com/
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From: Ken R. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: IPX connectivity problem
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 02:55:12 GMT
I just upgarded to RH6.2 and I can't get the ipx (802.2) connection to
my Netware 5 server back. I have the ncpfs and ipxutils loaded and my
net number in. When I do a ipx_configure I get "ipx_configure: socket:
Invalid argument"? I can ping ip with IP.
Any ideas?
Thanks Ken
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Disabling the boot logo
Date: 29 Apr 2000 03:28:33 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 28 Apr 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I run the VESA framebuffer in my laptop but unfortunately the boot logo
>causes my screen to resize; I grep'ed the source tree and looked at some
>files but I am just a hobbyist programmer ... :-) Can anyone give me any
>tips on how to disable the boot logo ? Is there any #define switch I can
>use?
Any clue as to which laptop or which video chip? For my Sony using
NeoMagic NM256AV on a 1024x768 screen I simply compiled framebuffer
support into the kernel and added a vga = 791 line to my lilo.conf for one
of my boot setups. The penquin displayed fine and the screen was 48 rows,
128 columns with a smooth font. But this was just something I ran across
and I am just looking into what configuration to use to do something like
that on my desktop.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: how to change system time??
Date: 29 Apr 2000 03:32:19 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 28 Apr 2000 15:58:04 GMT, Lew Pitcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 28 Apr 2000 13:58:40 GMT, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>when I use date, time, xclock, it always show the wrong time.
>>I wonder how I can correct it.
>>
>>I had used "date" command to change it, it works well. But
>>after you restart the system, everything go wrong again.
>
>/sbin/clock or /sbin/hwclock are used to update or read the CMOS
>clock. The system clock gets it's original value from the CMOS clock.
Or in RedHat /usr/sbin/setclock sets the CMOS clock to match system
date/time (like clock -w).
>Is your CMOS clock off? If not, then perhaps you have a timezone issue
>(either your timezone is mis-set, or your CMOS to system clock load
>doesn't know about the timezone your CMOS is running in).
>
>
>Lew Pitcher
>System Consultant
>Toronto Dominion Financial Group
>
>([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
>(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Netscape/KDE lockups Corrupted files?
Date: 29 Apr 2000 03:40:21 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 28 Apr 2000 13:20:42 -0500, Will <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Mike Pepera wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I am a relatively new Linux user. I have been using the Red Hat 6.2
>> distribution with the K desktop Environment.
>>
>> I have been having problems with Netscape locking up, and I am unable
>> to use the kill command to stop the process. The rest of my
>> applications, including X-Windows seem to work fine. However, after
>> waiting 10-15 minutes, and Netscape is still sitting open, but not
>> functioning, I try to logout of X to go back to the command line, at
>> this point the whole system seems to hang. After waiting another ten to
>> fifteen minutes, I hit the power switch and do a forced reboot. I know
>> that this is not a Kosher thing to do, but I saw no other alternative.
>
>This seems to be a common problem for Netscape users. The only way to wack
>netscape outta there is to use a kill -9 pid or a killall netscape. At
>least the only one I've seen.
Killing netscape still leaves some some sort of lib.so program running in
a race condition that begins to consume all available processor time.
The easiest way to find that is to use 'top' and then hit 'k', enter the
process ID <enter> and then -9.
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Reply-To: "Irv Segal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Irv Segal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.comp.periphs.cdr
Subject: Re: boot/mount root filesystem with cdrom
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 03:55:04 GMT
I am a little out of my depth here, but it might be necessary to change
the block size in order to boot UNIX/Linux from your cd-rom drive.
My Plextors have jumpers to do this, and I think it changes the block
size from 2048 bytes to 512 bytes when the drive is jumpered to
boot in UNIX environment.
--
-irv segal
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove the obvious to reply)
"Linus Tolduso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> My floppy controller, it seems is broken on one of my linux machines.
> Read and Write functions are ok in both windows and linux, but when it
> comes to booting, the floppy just hangs. Strange huh? I haven't tried
> re-flashing bios or anything that radical yet, but I really only need to
> boot linux so I'd like to use a burnable (re-writeable) cdrom in the
> floppy's stead. I have a I have a CD-writer on another machine and
> plenty media (write-only and re-writable).
>
> I prefer not to install LILO on this machine, because my kids use it
> also. Here's what I've tried so far, but I don't think it is applicable.
> All I want to do is replace a boot-floppy (which boots the kernel and
> then mount's the root partition call it /dev/hda3 for now) with a
> boot-cd. The motherboard's BIOS supports the CD-ROM device as bootable
> (a-la- 'El Torito spec).
>
> I read the rather dated README.eltorito (Slackware 7.0) but wasn't sure
> how or whether I needed to edit the boot catalog which I created on my
> hard drive's filesystem like this:
>
> dd if=/dev/zero of=boot.catalog bs=1024 count=2
>
> I then created a empty directory "boot-cd". I then created the "boot"
> sub-directory in it and the put the files "boot.img" (i.e. the kernel)
> and "boot.catalog" in it.
>
> Then simply executed mkisofs -b boot/boot.img -c boot/boot/catalog -o
> boot.iso .
>
> from the boot-cd directory.
>
> This seems like it should be a fairly simple task, but it is not turning
> out that way.
>
> I used mkisofs to create an isofile containing only the kernel I wanted
> to boot. I then used rdev on the image to set the root device and root
> flags on
> this image (file), but that didn't work when I burnt the CD.
>
> Any other thoughts?
>
> TIA,
>
> Linus
>
> (personal replies maybe directed to the listed e-mail by replacing the
> 'a' in my e-mail with 'y')
>
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From: Charles Tryon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Strange Netscape Behavior with RH 6.2
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 03:57:31 GMT
Here's one that's got me stumped!
I just installed RH 6.2 Linux on a Dell Latitude laptop. After fiddling
for a long time getting the display to come up at 800x600, everything seems
to be working great...
...except for one really strange thing....
When I run Netscape (4.7 or 4.72), the address book is completely
torqued!
I can add names, but they don't show up when I try to send mail. If I
try to click on names in the address book, about half will create the
modify dialogue, but half don't respond at all. Then, when I hit the OK
button, it adds another duplicate entry to the list, but it DOESN'T DISMISS
THE DIALOGUE. For every OK I hit, I get another duplicate name in the
list, but the window doesn''t go away until I hit CANCEL.
I've tried multiple copies of Netscape (all of which run fine on my RH
6.1 desktop). I've blown away the .netscape directory *and* the
/usr/local/netscape directory and started over from scratch. I've tried
multiple kernels (2.2.10 and 2.3.99-pre5). They ALL give the same
behavior. I'm wondering if there is something strange with the X server
that runs with the Neomagic video subsystem.
--
Your Servant, <><
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_________________________________________________________________________
"Never laugh at live dragons, Bilbo you fool!"
--Bilbo, after a scorching from Smaug.
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From: Yibing Fan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Wine no longer work under RH 6.2
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 12:11:24 -0400
Hi Everyone,
I upgraded from RH 6.1 to RH 6.2. The good news is my sound card is
automaticlly detected
and works great :)
The bad news is wine is not working any more, I got
err:seh:EXC_DefaultHandling Unhandled exception code c0000005 flags 0
addr 0x407b7625
I have no clue what went wrong. It was working under RH 5.2 6.0 and
6.1
Any help will be appreciated. I've used RH for quite awhile, don't want
switch.
Yibing
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