Linux-Misc Digest #307, Volume #25 Tue, 1 Aug 00 17:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Boots made for walking ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
gcc compiling error (BJW7TOAEM)
Locale problems after filesystem crash (Ewan Dunbar)
problem with Sound Blaster (Steve Kleene)
Re: fwd: SuSE Linux 7.0 released ("Nik Engel")
Re: MP3's skip : How I solved it (Kent Perrier)
Re: fwd: SuSE Linux 7.0 released ("M")
unable to locate cpp (Mary Lei)
Re: MP3's skip : How I solved it (Kent Perrier)
SuSE Linux 7.0 English press release. (blowfish)
Re: unable to locate cpp (Peter Bishop)
Partition Problem (Martin Racette)
Re: fwd: SuSE Linux 7.0 released (Paul Seelig)
Re: Linux on Mac LC III possible? (Grant Edwards)
my SMTP server? (Peter Bismuti)
Why so slow? (Michael Andersson)
Outlook 2000 and Sendmail and SMTP and Linux and POP3 (Paul)
Re: Random Power Shutdown (Patrick M Geahan)
Lp problem (Joris Maes)
Re: xcdroast problems (Brian Goodyear)
Re: Why so slow? (Dances With Crows)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Boots made for walking
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 19:18:07 GMT
Greets to all;
I have revised a help file to upgrade its LiLo
sections to 21.5 with the new lba32 option and
that scary red GUI |8-)
It's all about triple OS setup and Booting.
I'm thinking of offering it up to the LDP but
would first need to debug the section on disk
geometry (it being a little loose around the
corners). It's as good as I could muster with
all my two IQ's.
I invite hardware gurus to throw their $0.02 in
especially where my hunt for the exact location
of Logical 'perdition' boot code is.
The doc is 200k + a few pix, prints good under
windows with Netscape and #8 fonts (26 pages).
http://catamax.com/pub/compuke/dasbot/dasbotte.htm
All constructive criticism welcome.
Cheers!
KF
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BJW7TOAEM)
Subject: gcc compiling error
Date: 01 Aug 2000 19:19:42 GMT
I posted a question about this before and I did what they told me to do,
install the kernal headers but I am still getting the following error:
In file included from /usr/include/bits/posix1_lim.h:126,
from /usr/include/limits.h:30,
from
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/egcs-2.91.66/include/li
mits.h:117,
from
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/egcs-2.91.66/include/sy
slimits.h:7,
from
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/egcs-2.91.66/include/li
mits.h:11,
from /usr/include/g++-2/stl_algobase.h:49,
from /usr/include/g++-2/stl_tree.h:56,
from /usr/include/g++-2/map:31,
from ../../include/localemgr.h:27,
from versekey.cpp:21:
/usr/include/bits/local_lim.h:27: linux/limits.h: No such file or directory
make[2]: *** [versekey.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/linux/sword-1.5.0/src/keys'
make[1]: *** [keys/targets] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/linux/sword-1.5.0/src'
make: *** [src/targets] Error 2
local_lim.h is there under the /usr/include/bits/ directory, limits.h is in the
directory just below that. I don't understand why the make program is still not
recgonizing that I have the kernal headers installed. What do I do? I can't
compile any programs. I am running Redhat 6.0. Thanks for your time.
John H.
Twinkling Of An Eye Ministries Web Site
http://members.aol.com/BJW7TOAEM/index.html
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From: Ewan Dunbar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Locale problems after filesystem crash
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 15:20:59 -0400
My filesystem got a bit mucked up recently, and some of my locale stuff was
damaged. Programs complain that the default locale (EN) is not available.
I've done strace's on some of the programs that complain (some gtk
programs, perl) but to no avail.. I don't know what files they're looking
for. I made sure my glibc package was all intact -- what packages contain
the missing files? (sorry I can't be more specific, but I don't know which
ones are missing -- strace shows that perl finds all the locale files okay,
except IIRC, for some files in /usr/share/i18n .. it seemed to want
something parallel there to what was in /usr/share/locale (this is a
mandrake system we're talking about) and so I linked /usr/share/locale/en
to /usr/share/i18n/en .. but nope .. even though it now seemed to be
finding iall the files okay, still complain)
??
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Kleene)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: problem with Sound Blaster
Date: 1 Aug 2000 15:22:20 -0400
I'm running Red Hat Linux 6.0 and can't get my Sound Blaster PCI128 to work.
I pulled the card, and it says:
Creative Labs Model Number CT4750
Serial No. T4750930018824
Sndconfig says that it finds a PCI sound card of type ES1371. (I gather that
the card is a successor of the Ensoniq 1371.) It sets up the /etc files to
use the es1371 driver. When it tries to play a test sound, I hear nothing.
The sndconfig window goes away, and the shell prompt doesn't come back.
I can interrupt out of it.
If I run lspci, it reports the following:
Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371 (rev 07)
Subsystem: Unknown device 1274:8001
A friend of mine has a Sound Blaster working under Red Hat 6.0. lspci tells
him that he has the following:
Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371 (rev 06)
Subsystem: Unknown device 1274:1371
i.e. a different revision and device tag.
Note that if I boot off the Windows partition, the sound works. This rules
out a number of stupid user errors (e.g. volume too low, cabling wrong).
I did not see any interrupt conflicts looking at /proc/interrupts.
Does anyone know how to make the card work under Red Hat 6.0? If not, is
there another card that will work reliably with Red Hat 6.0?
Thanks.
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From: "Nik Engel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.suse,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: fwd: SuSE Linux 7.0 released
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 21:59:09 +0200
Reply-To: "Nik Engel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
There is also said that there will be improved T-dsl support
Can this be possible. Or do they use the old version ?
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:8m66jn$ghg$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> ... and it's bad news! They split the distribution in two versions:
> personal (for private, desktop users) and professional (server
> related). They are also more expensive, don't have any major release
> (neither kernel 2.4, KDE 2.0, etc.) because they're too soon. There's
> is no reason to upgrade to 7.0. Wait til kernel 2.4 is released ...
>
>
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> .. wrote:
> > -------------------SuSE Linux 7.0 released----------------------------
> > "...The optimised support for fully automated installation and SuSE's
> > new ALICE tool
> > (Automatic Linux Installation and Configuration Environment), allow
> > efficient configuration management for computer networks..."
> >
> > http://linuxpr.com/releases/2272.html
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> > --
> > - If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
> > hands,
> > lives a very boring and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste
> his
> > time.
> > Simplicity rules. That's why I use Easy Edit (ee).
> >
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
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From: Kent Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: MP3's skip : How I solved it
Date: 01 Aug 2000 15:05:35 -0500
Gordon Gilbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Kent Perrier wrote:
> >
> > Sure. restore from the backup that you made before you started messing
> > the hdparm settings. You did make a backup, didn't you? You did follow
> > the recommendations in the hdparm man page (specifically in the BUGS
> > section)? If you didn't, and you munged your hard drive and file
> > systems, then you deserve what you got....
>
> Backup? Buy me a big enough tape drive and I'll gladly back it up.
> Otherwise, I hope you get what you deserve for being an asshole.
>
I'm an asshole? The 0th rule of system administration is "Make a backup
before you start screwing with the hardware, kernel parameters and hard
drive settings." Don't come crying to me if you screwed up your machine
and you don't know enough to fix it.
Kent
--
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution,
nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States
respectively, or to the people."
--10th Amendment to the United States Constitution.
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From: "M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.suse,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: fwd: SuSE Linux 7.0 released
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 22:09:49 +0200
i think there will be a front-end for "pppoe"
M
"Nik Engel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> There is also said that there will be improved T-dsl support
> Can this be possible. Or do they use the old version ?
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:8m66jn$ghg$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > ... and it's bad news! They split the distribution in two versions:
> > personal (for private, desktop users) and professional (server
> > related). They are also more expensive, don't have any major release
> > (neither kernel 2.4, KDE 2.0, etc.) because they're too soon. There's
> > is no reason to upgrade to 7.0. Wait til kernel 2.4 is released ...
> >
> >
> >
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > .. wrote:
> > > -------------------SuSE Linux 7.0 released----------------------------
> > > "...The optimised support for fully automated installation and SuSE's
> > > new ALICE tool
> > > (Automatic Linux Installation and Configuration Environment), allow
> > > efficient configuration management for computer networks..."
> > >
> > > http://linuxpr.com/releases/2272.html
> > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > --
> > > - If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
> > > hands,
> > > lives a very boring and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste
> > his
> > > time.
> > > Simplicity rules. That's why I use Easy Edit (ee).
> > >
> >
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
>
>
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From: Mary Lei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: unable to locate cpp
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 13:12:26 -0700
Hi,
I installed Mandrake-Linux, but when I tried
to compile, gcc is unable to find cpp.
Anyone know if cpp is on red-hat or Mandrake Linux distribution?
Cant find it on cd. How can I resolve this problem ?
Thanks.
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From: Kent Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: MP3's skip : How I solved it
Date: 01 Aug 2000 15:16:30 -0500
Gordon Gilbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> With a system such as this (learning tool and for "play" relatively
> speaking), it becomes a question of whether it's worth spending
> hours backing things up regularly or hours reconfiguring from
> scratch.
Then be happy that you learned this lesson with a play system and not a
production database server at work that handels millions of dollars of
transactions per hour. THAT is not the place to learn this lesson :)
Just treat this as a learning experience, accept that something went
wrong and learn from it. That is the point of misteaks, you know.
Kent
--
They were killing machines. I wanted to be them so bad.
-- Jamie Zawinski
http://www.jwz.org/gruntle/grave.html
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.suse
Subject: SuSE Linux 7.0 English press release.
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 13:25:19 -0700
SuSE Linux 7.0 English press release.
It even install automatically for the blinds. SuSE does not forget the
handicapped (or "physically challenged", for those of you PC crowd.)
http://www.suse.de/en/news/PressReleases/7_0.html
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
lives a very boring and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
Simplicity rules. That's why I use Easy Edit (ee).
------------------------------
From: Peter Bishop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: unable to locate cpp
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 20:27:11 GMT
If by 'cpp' you mean the C++ compiler, the GCC compiler is invoked with
'g++'. Try:
man gcc, man g++
Mary Lei wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I installed Mandrake-Linux, but when I tried
> to compile, gcc is unable to find cpp.
> Anyone know if cpp is on red-hat or Mandrake Linux distribution?
> Cant find it on cd. How can I resolve this problem ?
> Thanks.
--
"In a world without walls and fences...
Who needs Windows and Gates?"
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From: Martin Racette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Partition Problem
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 20:34:13 GMT
I have installed Linux Mandrake 7.1, but now I'm having a weird=20
problem with my partition table. I can't resize any partition on that=20=
disk using Partition Magic, and I need to resize some of them for OS/2=20=
Warp and Win98SE, but I can't see any partition.
Partition Magic tell me this error (this is the exact text from=20
PM3.05, and PM 4.0 has the same):
"The logical drive chain is incompatible. DOS, OS/2, Windows 95, and=20=
Windows NT require that logical partitions be chained together in=20
ascending order. This error occurs when one or more of the logical=20
partitions are chained together in the wrong order. Other operating=20
systems may not have this requirement. Some versions of Linux fdisk=20
chain logical partitions together in the order created. This situation=20=
is very dangerous and can cause loss of one or more partitions when=20
using DOS's FDISK."
How can I correct this situation ???
The problem occurred after I have let the Linux installation create=20
it's own partition instead of me using PM or FDISK to create them and=20=
let Linux using them
The HDDs are as follow (al HDD are SCSI):
Disk 0:
Partition: 0 IBM Boot Manager
1 C: (OS/2 HPFS)
2 C: (Win98, FAT32, Hidden)
3 to 6 (Extended, HPFS)
Disk 1:
Partition: 0 Linux Mandrake
1 Linux Swap
2 Linux Home
3 Extended (HPFS)
4 Extended (FAT16)
5 Extended (HPFS)
6 Extended (HPFS)
Disk 2:
ZIP-100 most disk are HPFS
Thank you in advance
Martin
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From: Paul Seelig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.suse,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: fwd: SuSE Linux 7.0 released
Date: 01 Aug 2000 22:45:23 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> (neither kernel 2.4, KDE 2.0, etc.) because they're too soon. There's
> is no reason to upgrade to 7.0. Wait til kernel 2.4 is released ...
>
Just imagine: there are users who don't bother about under which
kernel their apps run. It's the apps, stupid! ;-)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.m68k,comp.os.linux.powerpc
Subject: Re: Linux on Mac LC III possible?
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 20:44:25 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>In comp.os.linux.misc Henry Garcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> What machine do you have a working linux without an FPU?
>
>I ran it on a 486sx without an FPU.
>If it works on intel, there's no reason why it shouldn't work on other
>architectures if the option's present...
Yes, there _is_ a reason: some of the kernel code used on 68K
machines is different than that used by x86 machines.
Last time I checked (which was several months ago), you had to
have hardware FPU support to boot the Linux kernel on a 68K
Mac. That may have changed recently, but last time I installed
Linux on a 68K Mac, a hardware FPU was required.
If you've run Linux on a 68K Mac without an FPU, then I'd love
to hear about it, but just insisting that it works won't make
it so.
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! Is this TERMINAL fun?
at
visi.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Bismuti)
Subject: my SMTP server?
Date: 1 Aug 2000 20:37:29 GMT
I'm trying to install a mail program that is asking for my
SMTP server, how can I find out what it is? Do I just
provide my IP address? or do I need to provide a port number?
Are there any firewall issues? (I am behind one).
Thanks!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Andersson)
Subject: Why so slow?
Date: 1 Aug 2000 22:44:53 +0100
Hi,
I've just installed SuSE 6.4 on my computer. The problem is that it runs
terriably slow. X-Window take about 3-4 minutes to start and it takes 40 sec
just to maximize the netscape window. Why?
I have the following computer configuration:
AMD Athlon 500 MHz
128 MB PC133 memory
Epox 7KXA motherboard
Harddrives: IBM-DPTA and IBM-DTTA
etc..
Thanks!
Michael Andersson
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul)
Subject: Outlook 2000 and Sendmail and SMTP and Linux and POP3
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 20:46:22 GMT
dear sendmail/linux experts,
I am very new to setting up sendmail, in fact, it's the first time for
me.
I have tried to read as much info as possible before trying this out,
but still having problems.
I am trying to set up a linux box (not yet connected to outside,
eventually it will be) to send/receive local emails (within the same
domain) using MS Outlook 2000 as a client on a NT box.
I have a NT box with MS outlook 2000 configured to connect to the
linux box to receive e-mails via POP3D and send via SMTP.
The problem is that it is able to receive emails on the linux box via
POP3, but it is unable to send any local emails to the local domain
(in this case the linux box)
Can someone help?
Thanks in advance.
Paul
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From: Patrick M Geahan<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Random Power Shutdown
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.hardware
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 20:49:49 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Patrick M Geahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gotta minor problem here I was hpoing someone could help me with. I have
> a RH6.2 system running on a Gateway 2000 P200MMX system. The system is
> configured with a Diamond Fireport 40 SCSI adapter, 1 4.5GB IBM SCSI
> drive, 32 MB RAM, a 4MB knockoff vid card, and 2 3COM 3c509 Ethernet
> cards. The system's been mine since last November, running like a charm.
Thanks to all for your replies. You all had good ideas.
The eventual problem, as far as I can tell, was a bad power supply. This
Gateway shipped with a 145W ATX supply. I had thought that perhaps the
power supply was the problem, so I decided to start there. For 30 bucks,
I replaced the power supply and put a fan on the CPU. Other then the act
that the new power supply will not fit in the case without some
jury-rigging, everything works fine. THe system has now been up for sis
days without a problem, so I'm happy.
Again, thanks to all for your help.
--
=======Patrick M [EMAIL PROTECTED]=======ICQ:3784715==========
Quote of the Week: "'Do you want to take a look at my regular expressions
?' is not a valid chat-up line" - Chris King in the Monastery.
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From: Joris Maes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Joris Maes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Lp problem
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 20:50:48 GMT
Hi,
I'm having serious troubles getting my printer(HP720C) to work. I know
the hp720C is an winprinter, I downloaded from sourceforge the filters and
pnm2ppa-1.0 I installed them but that doesn't cause me any troubles.
I keep on getting "/dev/lp0: No such device", when I try to print
something from a script that came with pnm2ppa-1.0, or when i try to print
anything from printtool, also printtool gives me "dev/lp0 : Not
detected"
and the same for lp1 and lp2.
I recompiled my kernel(2.2.16) to include parallel port support and
printing to the parallel port as modules. The modules lp.o and parport.0
can be found in
/lib/modules/2.2.16/misc. I can modprobe parport.o, but I can't modprobe
lp.o, I get "/lib/modules/2.2.16/misc/lp.o: init_module: Device or
resource
busy". I doesn't matter if parport is loaded or not. I also tried to
compile both the modules in the kernel but that gives the same errors.
I already added some things to /etc/conf.modules, wich were suggested in
several postings in some newsgroups (I'me using Redhat 6.1).
#cat /etc/conf.modules
alias eth0 rtl8139
alias eth1 unknown
alias sound emu10k1
alias /dev/printers lp # only for devfs?
alias /dev/lp* lp # only for devfs?
alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc # missing in Red Hat 6.0-6.1
#ls -al /dev/lp*
crw-rw---- 1 root daemon 6, 0 May 5 1998 /dev/lp0
crw-rw---- 1 root daemon 6, 1 May 5 1998 /dev/lp1
crw-rw---- 1 root daemon 6, 2 May 5 1998 /dev/lp2
Redhat 6.1, kernel 2.2.16, athlon 500, ...
I hope someone knows the answer to this one. Any help is appreciated,
this
problem is one of the last that keeps me from stepping over to linux. If
anyone knows any tips on how I can port my mailarchive from outlook to
linux, those are
welcome as well.
Joris
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Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 16:57:20 -0400
From: Brian Goodyear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: xcdroast problems
Steffen Katzner wrote:
>
> hi there,
>
> after successfully creating an audio-cd once
> I have never managed to do so again.
> Strange - it only worked fine for the first time.
> Everytime I start xcdroast again I am asked to enter the setup
> because some settings had changed.
> During fixation then the program terminates with the output:
> "some error has occured"
> Is anybody familiar with the following error messages
> produced by xcdroast?
>
> I would be happy to get a hint if somebody knew
> how to handle this...
> steffen.
>
> Input/output error. close track/session:
> scsi sendcmd: retryable error
> status: 0x2 (check condition)
> warning: some drives don't like fixation in dummy mode
>
> CDB: 5B 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00
> Sense Bytes: F0 00 03 FF F2 E2 08 0A 00 00
> 00 04 15 00 00 00
> Sense Key: 0x3 Medium error, segment 0
> Sense Code: 0x15 Qual 0x00 (random positioning error) Fru 0x0
> Sense Flags: Blk - 859640 (valid)
> cmd finished after 30.978s timeout 480s
>
> fifo 17038 puts and 17038 gets
> fifo was 0 times empty and 15669 times full,
> min fill was 95%
> Fixating time: 31.496s
I had this problem with the 92 version because it cannot write to a disk
more than once. No multisession support. What that means is that you
now have a one song cd!!!
If that is your case either upgrade to 96 (i couldn't get it to install,
or write all your songs in one smack.
Brian
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Why so slow?
Date: 1 Aug 2000 21:01:13 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 1 Aug 2000 22:44:53 +0100, Michael Andersson wrote:
>I've just installed SuSE 6.4 on my computer. The problem is that it runs
>terriably slow. X-Window take about 3-4 minutes to start and it takes 40 sec
>just to maximize the netscape window. Why?
>AMD Athlon 500 MHz
>128 MB PC133 memory
>Epox 7KXA motherboard
Open a terminal window and enter "free". You should see something there
about a swap space. Linux will be very, very slow unless it has some
swap space enabled--you should have created a swap partition as part of
the install process. "fdisk -l /dev/hda" should show one partition that
says "Linux swap." If that space is not being reported by "free" then
do:
swapon /dev/hdaX
where X is the partition number.
If you don't have a swap space, create one using fdisk if you have
unpartitioned space on the hard drive. If you don't have unpartitioned
space on the drive, do this:
dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile bs=1M count=96
sync
sync
mkswap /swapfile
swapon /swapfile
If you do have a swap partition that's been activated, you'll need to
poke around a bit. A poster in comp.os.linux.hardware recently reported
that his Athlon system was very slow unless he went into the BIOS and
set the DRAM mode to "fast". Try that? Also hit Ctrl-Alt-F10 and make
sure that there aren't any suspicious-looking system error messages
piling up.
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Tyranny is always better organized
http://www.brainbench.com / than freedom.
=============================/ ==Charles Peguy
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