Linux-Misc Digest #314, Volume #24               Sun, 30 Apr 00 04:13:04 EDT

Contents:
  How do I shutdown my PC? (Tandem Guy)
  Re: How do I shutdown my PC? (Prasanth Kumar)
  Re: book of love (Axel)
  Re: How do I shutdown my PC? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Cron not working ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  How to add Linux to the NT Loader menu (YK Lee)
  Re: DVD-ROM drive and Linux (John Larmour)
  Sendmail 8.10.1 RPM (Jeff Workman)
  Re: How to add Linux to the NT Loader menu ("Luke A. Olbrish")
  Re: help installing hp laser jet 1100 (Cevat Ustun)
  Upgrading the rpm package itself... (Cevat Ustun)
  Re: question re hp lserjet 1100 (Cevat Ustun)
  Difference between Mandrake 7.0 and RedHat 6.2 (Michael Iwaki)
  getting on the internet ("Joe M.")
  Linux printer driver for HP laserjet III  in PCL (Michael Iwaki)
  XWindows ("Joe M.")
  Re: Problem with ls -lR (Matthew Haley)

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From: Tandem Guy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: How do I shutdown my PC?
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 04:31:52 GMT

Hello,

I'm a new user of Linux in general and Redhad 6.0 in particular.  This
may be a silly question, but what is the safest/best way to turn off my
PC which is running Redhat 6.0 (and only Redhat 6.0).  I've been exiting
out of X-Windows or whatever it is called and then logging off with exit
which puts me back at the login prompt.  Once at the login prompt I kill
the power to the PC.  Should I be doing something more, because when I
turn the PC on I often get errors telling me there are problems with my
filesystem which need to be repaired?  So, should I be doing something
more when I'm ready to power off my PC?  Thanks in advance.

Tandem Guy


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From: Prasanth Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: How do I shutdown my PC?
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 04:44:24 GMT

Tandem Guy wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I'm a new user of Linux in general and Redhad 6.0 in particular.  This
> may be a silly question, but what is the safest/best way to turn off my
> PC which is running Redhat 6.0 (and only Redhat 6.0).  I've been exiting
> out of X-Windows or whatever it is called and then logging off with exit
> which puts me back at the login prompt.  Once at the login prompt I kill
> the power to the PC.  Should I be doing something more, because when I
> turn the PC on I often get errors telling me there are problems with my
> filesystem which need to be repaired?  So, should I be doing something
> more when I'm ready to power off my PC?  Thanks in advance.
> 
> Tandem Guy

You need to do "shutdown -h now" as root to halt properly or
"shutdown -r now" to reboot properly or
do [ctrl]+[alt]+[del] to reboot properly or
if you run xdm/kdm/gdm, there might be a reboot option on that menu.

-- 
Prasanth Kumar
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Axel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.non.sequitur,alt.music.joe-carta-band,alt.religion.kibology
Subject: Re: book of love
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 23:56:35 -0700

hoKEy wOLf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> proves the law of fives:

>In article <8eemnj$jmh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Axel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> hoKEy wOLf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> proves the law of fives:
>> 
>> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
>> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The 
>> >Queen of Cans and Jars) wrote:
>> >
>> >> Beekeeper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> > On Thu, 27 Apr 2000 16:21:10 -0400, "counterpoint: jim carleton"
>> >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> > 
>> >> > >This, from Axel:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >>David Castrodale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> proves the law of fives:
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>>hoKEy wOLf wrote:
>> >> > >>>> 
>> >> > >>>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Castrodale
>> >> > >>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> > >>>> 
>> >> > >>>> > Nealworm wrote:
>> >> > >>>> > >
>> >> > >>>> > > On Mon, 24 Apr 2000 16:15:03 GMT, David Castrodale
>> >> > >>>> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake thusly:
>> >> > >>>> > >
>> >> > >>>> > > >
>> >> > >>>> > > >
>> >> > >>>> > > >Fred Levi-Addison wrote: > > David Castrodale
>> >> > >>>> > > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> enjoys the great taste of beef: >
>> >> > >>>> > > >> >
>> >> > >>>> > > >> >
>> >> > >>>> > > >> >Nealworm wrote:
>> >> > >>>> > > >> >>
>> >> > >>>> > > >> >> On Sun, 23 Apr 2000 13:36:21 -0400, the portable jim 
>> >> > >>>> > > >> >> carleton
>> >> > >>>> > > >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake thusly:
>> >> > >>>> > > >> >>
>> >> > >>>> > > >> >> >This, from hoKEy wOLf:
>> >> > >>>> > > >> >> >
>> >> > >>>> > > >> >> >>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David 
>> >> > >>>> > > >> >> >>Castrodale
>> >> > >>>> > > >> >> >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> > >>>> > > >> >> >>
>> >> > >>>> > > >> >> >>> Nealworm wrote:
>> >> > >>>> > > >> >> >>> >
>> >> > >>>> > > >> >> >>> > On Sun, 23 Apr 2000 04:32:31 GMT, David 
>> >> > >>>> > > >> >> >>> > Castrodale
>> >> > >>>> > > >> >> >>> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> > >>>> > > >> >> >>> > spake thusly:
>> >> > >>>> > > >> >> >>> >
>> >> > >>>> > > >> >> >>> > >hey, i just realized that this newsgroup is 
>> >> > >>>> > > >> >> >>> > >completely
>> >> > >>>> > > >> >> >>> > >TROLL-RESISTANT.
>> >> > >>>> > > >> >> >>> > >think about it, it's impossible.
>> >> > >>>> > > >> >> >>> >
>> >> > >>>> > > >> >> >>> > I respond this to refuse troll obvious
>> >> > >>>> > > >> >> >>>
>> >> > >>>> > > >> >> >>> blatant respond troll refush I this
>> >> > >>>> > > >> >> >>
>> >> > >>>> > > >> >> >>refush troll this I blatant response
>> >> > >>>> > > >> >> >
>> >> > >>>> > > >> >> >i hace teh baltant torll resposh refush guh.
>> >> > >>>> > > >> >>
>> >> > >>>> > > >> >> Cape cod
>> >> > >>>> > > >> >
>> >> > >>>> > > >> >WHITNEY HOUSTON: driving a boat! driving a boat!
>> >> > >>>> > > >>
>> >> > >>>> > > >> DONALD FAGEN: Them cats from Hartford/Sure loved the 
>> >> > >>>> > > >> nightlife
>> >> > >>>> > > >
>> >> > >>>> > > >HANS CHRISTIAN ANDERSON: i probably shouldn't get my wallet 
>> >> > >>>> > > >wet
>> >> > >>>> > >
>> >> > >>>> > > RONNIE SEWAGE: So dis fucken kid asks me if I like dese new 
>> >> > >>>> > > fucken
>> >> > >>>> > > bands like U2... U2? I sez...fuck you too buddy!!! Buncha 
>> >> > >>>> > > fairies!!
>> >> > >>>> >
>> >> > >>>> > ALFRED ADLER: i hate this stupid song, it's just the same thing
>> >> > >>>> > over and over again and the story's not even that good
>> >> > >>>> 
>> >> > >>>> you're right that IS a good song then
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>>he's chipped his tooth on a microphone
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>Gone swimming.  Be back in a hour or so.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >try shifting your cole slaw
>> >> > 
>> >> > am i allowed to play with the problem machine?  it causes problems
>> >> 
>> >> no, we're putting you over here with the automatic bocce generator.
>> >> it's safer.  just...generate some bocce.  i'll be back in a few minutes
>> >> to check on you.  
>> >> 
>> >> is that sawdust i smell?  gross.
>> >
>> >meet the gnu bocce
>> 
>> The correct term is gnu/linux bocce.
>
>i dotn even kwno how to raed

I picked up reading when I was hitchhiking to California a few years
back.  I was in Utah, and was picked up by a car full of Mormons.
They had a ton of literature, and said that I should read it.  I said
to my self, "Well, shit.  I otta know how to read."  So I started to
analyze the pattern of cryptic shapes and symbols, and determined that
they were, in fact, a phonetic encoding.  In a few hours, when I was
dropped off at the Nevada border, I had learned how to read, and more
importantly, I had accepted Bringham Young as my personal lord and
savior.

You too can learn how to read, if you just put your mind to it.  Visit
my website, http://www.learningtoread.org.  It has lots of useful tips
to get you going down the path towards literacy.

--
|  This little nugget of wisdom brought to you by:  |
|  -------------------->Axel<---------------------  |
|                     mhm23x3                       |
|                        @                          |
|                    hotmail.com                    |
|                                                   |
|  "Meow.  Even if you have no place to do it but   |
|        your own newsgroup in alt.bonehead.*"      |
|            --Ayatollah Meow                       |
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: How do I shutdown my PC?
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 05:02:08 GMT

You may want to look at commands like halt, shutdown and reboot. Do a
man on those commands...

it is not a good idea to power off a linux comuter without doing
something like shutdown first.


In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Tandem Guy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm a new user of Linux in general and Redhad 6.0 in particular.  This
> may be a silly question, but what is the safest/best way to turn off
my
> PC which is running Redhat 6.0 (and only Redhat 6.0).  I've been
exiting
> out of X-Windows or whatever it is called and then logging off with
exit
> which puts me back at the login prompt.  Once at the login prompt I
kill
> the power to the PC.  Should I be doing something more, because when I
> turn the PC on I often get errors telling me there are problems with
my
> filesystem which need to be repaired?  So, should I be doing something
> more when I'm ready to power off my PC?  Thanks in advance.
>
> Tandem Guy
>
>


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Cron not working
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 05:11:59 GMT

In article <8edbtj$ph8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  "Rask0" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anyplace to go to look for ways to troubleshoot cron not working?

You might try looking at /var/log/cron to see what the log file shows...


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: YK Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to add Linux to the NT Loader menu
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 05:30:03 GMT

I just installed Linux on my machine which already has 98 and NT.  Just 
wonder how can I add Linux to the menu so that I can choose which OS to 
load everytime I power on my machine.  Right now I can only choose between 
98 and NT even though Linux is installed.

thanks.

--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/

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From: John Larmour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: DVD-ROM drive and Linux
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 05:39:59 GMT

I have a Creative PC-DVD Dxr2 (5x).  Linux treats it like any ATAPI CDROM
without any special setup.

Sandhitsu R Das wrote:

> Which DVD-ROMS drives can read CDROM and CD-R without any trouble under
> Linux ?


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Subject: Sendmail 8.10.1 RPM
From: Jeff Workman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 30 Apr 2000 00:56:19 -0400


Anybody know where to find it?

                Jeff
-- 
Jeff Workman                    | [End of diatribe.  We now return you to your 
UNIX System Administrator       | regularly scheduled programming...] 
Gibralter Publishing            |  
(910) 455-6446 ext. 3034        | -- Larry Wall, in "Configure" from the
http://www.gibralter.com        |    perl distribution.

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From: "Luke A. Olbrish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to add Linux to the NT Loader menu
Date: 30 Apr 2000 01:57:28 -0400

YK Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I just installed Linux on my machine which already has 98 and NT.  Just 
> wonder how can I add Linux to the menu so that I can choose which OS to 
> load everytime I power on my machine.  Right now I can only choose between 
> 98 and NT even though Linux is installed.
> 
> thanks.
> 
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/

Make sure you installed lilo into the Linux partition(_not_ the MBR).

1. boot Linux(you made a boot disk right?)
2. at the bash prompt type: 
         dd if=/dev/hda6 count=1 bs=512 of=/bootdrive/bootsek.lin

hda6 = the partition that your Linux instalation is on.
bootdrive = the fat partition that you have mounted in Linux(your c drive).

On your first hard drive partition(probably C:), there will be a hidden
system file called boot.ini.  You will need to add a line for Linux.

This is what my boot.ini looks like.

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT=
          "Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional" /fastdetect
C:\bootsek.lin="Linux" 
C:\ = "Microsoft Windows"

Notice the Linux option that uses that bootsek file you copied from Linux.


-- 
Luke A. Olbrish           |
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>     |
GaTechCS / cs1312 Student |

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From: Cevat Ustun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: help installing hp laser jet 1100
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 06:02:00 GMT

I think you need to have the printer daemon (lpd) 
running. You can find out by doing 

ps aux|grep lpd 

and see if there's a line like

root       312  0.0  0.0  1176   72 ?        S    Apr29   0:00 lpd.

Otherwise (assuming you're running redhat ) you should 
install the lpr package. I have the same printer running   
with the /etc/printcap file looking like this:
##PRINTTOOL3## LOCAL ljet4 600x600 letter {} LaserJet4 Default 1
lp:\
        :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\
        :mx#0:\
        :sh:\
        :lp=/dev/lp0:\
        :if=/var/spool/lpd/lp/filter:    

=================
Printing is fine except with latex (the whole 
page seems to be shifted down for some reason
if you just do 

latex filename.tex
and 
dvips filename.dvi.
and then
lpr filename.ps
Instead, you should replace the last two lines
with
dvilj4 filename.dvi
followed by
lpr filename.lj

and that should work fine. 

Cevat. 






[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> If I remember correctly, the LaserJet 4/5/6 series
> can speak either Postscript or PCL. I think that
> the LaserJet 1100 is neither. Somewhere in the
> book for it, there should be info on that.
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   Richard Fell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I am trying to get a hp laser jet 1100 to work
> with Red Hat 6.0, but
> > with no luck so far. I used printtool to install
> the printer (choosing
> > hp laser jet 4/5/6 series).
> >
> > /etc/printtcap was edited, as expected. However,
> nothing prints. Here is
> > the output of lpc status:
> > queuing is enabled
> > printing is enabled
> > no entries
> > no daemon present
> >
> > I suppose the problem might be related to the
> last two lines above.
> > Here also are the contents of /etc/printcap
> > ##PRINTTOOL3## LOCAL ljet4 600x600 letter {}
> LaserJet4 Default {}
> > lp:\
> >     :sd /var/spool/lpd/lp:\
> >     :mx#0:\
> >     :sh:\
> >     :\lp=/dev/lp0:\
> >     :if=/var/spool/lpd/lp/filter:
> >
> > Has anyone any suggestions? Thanks very much for
> your help,
> > Dick Fell
> >
> >
> 
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

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From: Cevat Ustun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Upgrading the rpm package itself...
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 06:08:11 GMT

How can I upgrade the rpm package itself?
Simply installing the newer version with the 
i option and then uninstalling doesn't seem
to work (conflicts). Any ideas?

Cev.

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From: Cevat Ustun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: question re hp lserjet 1100
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 06:25:37 GMT

If you plan on doing latex though, you might want
to replace dvips filename.dvi with dvilj4 filename.dvi
and print the resulting filename.lj instead. Otherwise, 
the margins tend to go wrong somewhat. Other than that,
it has worked flawlessly for me.

Cev.

Jason Bacon wrote:
> 
> The better question is whether it works with Ghostscript, which contains
> all the printer drivers for Unix.
> 
> Then the answer is yes - I bought an 1100 a few weeks ago, and it works
> flawlessly on my FreeBSD system.  I haven't tested it under Linux,
> but I don't feel a need to, since both OS's use Ghostscript to drive
> the printer anyway.
> 
> In general, any *good* PCL printer is a good choice under Unix-like OS's.
> 
> (A postscript printer is even better, since it eliminates the need to
> use Ghostscript as a driver.  Check out the Optra Color 40 at buy.com
> if inkjet is OK, otherwise go to adobe.com for a list of Postscript
> printer manufacturers.)
> 
> One warning: Watch out for off-brands that claim PCL emulation, and also
> Windows printers where the PCL support is in the Windows driver instead
> of the printer firmware.  ( e.g. HP 3150 all-in-one )
> 
> I originally bought a Brother all-in-one (printer, fax, copier) with
> PCL.  It worked, but at about 1 page every two minutes, vs. 6
> pages per minute advertised.  ( Raw text went fine, but it took a long
> time to chew on any PCL output )
> 
> I took it back, bought an HP 1100, and lived happily ever after.
> 
> -Jason
> 
> Richard Fell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> : I am considering buying the hp laserjet 1100. Does anyone know if this
> : printer works with Red Hat linux?
> : Thanks

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From: Michael Iwaki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Difference between Mandrake 7.0 and RedHat 6.2
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 07:19:22 GMT

I see many auctions for Mandrake 7.0 and RedHat 6.2 linux distributions
on ebay.  What's the differences between the two.  The Mandrake 7.0
sellers claim their distribution is the easiest to install and is fully
compatible with RedHat addons..Can someone give some more objective
information on this?

thanks

Michael Iwaki


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From: "Joe M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: getting on the internet
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 17:34:27 +1000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I just installed linux on my system with kde and decided the next step
was to try and get it to connect to my isp. I went to kppp(i think thats
what it's called) and it said that my kernel did not support the
protocol, i thought because i didn't install the network package that
was why. So i installed that and it still said the same message, not a
very good start i can't even get past the first screen hehe..
I don't know what information about my system you need to help me but im
using slackware 7 with xwindows and kde. I havet installed everything
because i only have 500 meg to play with so maybe im missing some
things. Any help would be appreciated

Joe

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From: Michael Iwaki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux printer driver for HP laserjet III  in PCL
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 07:35:55 GMT

I have a HP Laserjet III printer printing in PCL mode (without the
Postscript cartridge). Does Linux support printing on a Laserjet III in
PCL mode?

Michael Iwaki


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From: "Joe M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: XWindows
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 17:46:42 +1000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Ok a few questions about using X (these may sound really stupid but oh
well). 

what is the correct way to start KDE? I'm not sure if im loading all of
it, at the moment i just go to a terminal and type kde however the
background doesn't come up and things don't seem to change a great deal
(i get a few icons and a browser but thats it.)

also i found a menu editor for kde but i don't even have the menu that i
can edit, i still have the normal X menu when you click on the screen?

how do i configure it to look the way i like? how do i add links/folders
etc?

I looked at a few screenshots on kde's page and they have menu's above
and below the screen, how do i get those?

KDE runs on top of XFree86 (or whatever it's called i still can't
remember all these names YET.)

I installed gnome as well but cant find how to start that either?

ok well that's enough questions i still have heaps more but i don't want
to sound like an absolute idiot.......oh too late.

Joe

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthew Haley)
Subject: Re: Problem with ls -lR
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 07:47:13 GMT

On Sat, 29 Apr 2000 18:36:24 -0700,
 Philip J. Koenig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>When I try to do a recursive directory search (shell is 
>bash) for a particular filename spec, it doesn't work.  
>IE if the command line is:
>
>ls -lR *.abc
>
>
>It always says
>
>"ls: *.abc: No such file or directory"
>
>..unless the file(s) are in the current directory.
>
>If I use ls -lR by itself, it works fine.
>
>Is there any better way to do this, other than piping
>the output through grep?  I looked at the manpage and
>info page and couldn't find any explanations for this
>behavior.

If you want 'ls' to list the filespec:

 find ./ -name '*.abc' -exec ls -l \{} \;

or, if you just want to show where the file is:

 find ./ -name '*.abc' -print



-- 
Matthew Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Now showing... Mandrake Linux 7.02
12:45am up 20:24, 3 users, load average: 0.02, 0.04, 0.12

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