Linux-Misc Digest #506, Volume #24 Wed, 17 May 00 20:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: WYSIWYG web page generator ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: gcc problem (sleddog)
Re: CD hiccups when playing MP3s (Andreas Hinz)
Re: add a second root-account (Harlan Grove)
Re: kudzu segmentation fault (Greg Greenway)
Re: Burning a Redhat 6.2 CD (Rod Smith)
Re: WordPerfect (Rod Smith)
Re: German Govt says Microsoft a security risk (Clueless Bozo)
Re: Any way to fake/spoof MAC address? (Dave Brown)
Re: grep - how can I ... (Dave Brown)
Making a Linux box authenticate to an NT domain (Ian Wilkinson)
Re: applications behind ports (EnEmA)
Re: Corel Linux and WINE (Chad Lemmen)
loopback filesystem (lofs) - not the same as mounting a file as a directory
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: texinfo? BAH! (JCA)
Re: applications behind ports (joe 90)
Re: XFree86 4.0 rpms ("Jim Ross")
build help please. (Robert Schweikert)
Re: XMMS & Sound (Dances With Crows)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: WYSIWYG web page generator
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 22:01:03 GMT
I think we've been talking past each other here. Let me try to summarize
our back and forth here; let me know if I'm close or not....
Praedor says: Visual additions such as color, bold/italic, and graphics
are enhancements. They improve the readability of the document. We can't
expect the world to be text-only.
Larry says: Overuse of visual additions such as frames, table-based
layouts, large gratuitous graphics, and proprietary NS/IE extensions are
problems. They produce pages that cannot be displayed properly under many
real-world conditions. We can't expect the world to have exactly the same
browser and version, font and window size, as everyone else.
If I'm right, we're not really that far apart; we've just been razzing
each others' pet peeves. :-)
> IF one sticks to real html standards, then you can design
> a web page using a WYSIWYG (that is itself based only
> on standards) and it does NO harm to the lynx user. They STILL can
> read the content of the page and still see it formatted in a readable
> style. What's the beef?
No beef with that. My beef is with the overdesigned pages that stick
everything in tables or frames, put all links are in a huge map (or
worse, javascript), embedded <FONT> tags running loose everywhere... and
I don't have the font this "designer" used and have no inclination to get
it just to make her page look pretty. Result: the page takes longer to
load and display, the text wraps weird in the narrower cells or I have to
scroll left & right to read it. If I have JavaScript turned off for
security's sake, or have graphics turned off because the link is bogged
down for whatever reason, I can't click through.
> > ... Even if we all coded and browsed using Amaya, we couldn't count
> > on our pages looking the same from one person to the next ...
>
> None of these settings changes has ever dicked up a page for me such
> that I couldn't read it clearly or see the same formatting as
> before I altered a setting.
You've never had to choose between resizing your window or scrolling left
& right to read a page? I find that highly annoying. Sure, the text is
there but why the foo should I have to make that kind of choice? Like you
said, stick to standards. Like I say, don't try getting ornamental.
Beyond that, it doesn't matter much.
> or is it certain pages that
> include non-standard html?
It's pages that use tables for every-dang-thing. A long column on the
left for contents, another on the right for who-knows-what, and a big fat
one in the middle containing what I want to see. I should point out that
I use high, narrow windows when browsing; most of my beef is with people
who ASSume I'm using wide windows (or worse, filling my entire screen
with the browser).
> If a page is not visually formatted well (into paragraphs,
> sections, etc), it is unreadable. It doesn't matter what
> browser you use. Text is VISUALLY presented to you...
I think we're in violent agreement here, mostly. I would characterize
sections, paragraphs, lists, etc. as *structural* markup though, not *
necessarily* visual -- although like you point out, that's the way to
bet. Then again, there are scripts that can reach inside an HTML file and
extract only certain desired information; think site-map generators, link
checkers, and the like. Heading tags, if used properly, can provide a
document's outline for automatic table of contents generation.
You might be surprised to know that I'm a big fan of CSS, or at least its
potential. I've been experimenting with converting my employer's
reference documents to the web, mostly through automatic conversion from
SGML. CSS is made for this kind of thing -- if the browser supports it,
the reader sees a document with headings in spot color and sans-serif,
body text indented from the headings to improve scanning, and so on. If
the browser doesn't support CSS, or has it turned off, the reader gets a
plain web page. I'm also using SSI to include common info that gets
repeated on every page (like a search box). This stuff is a Big Win since
I just have to edit four files to change the look of nearly 1000 pages!
Yeah, what's my point? Look at that last sentence -- I ain't gonna use no
editor, WYSIWYG or not, to change hundreds of pages. All the Dreamweaver
or FrontPage (or Amaya, for that matter) in the world is going to make
that kind of job an easy chore. To auto-generate, I need to know HTML and
what it does, and preferably stick to standards.
> Just what does WYSIWYM mean anyway? That you only mean to present
> plain text, damn the graphics and formatting? I think not.
Once again, we agree. In my previous post, I suggested WYSIWYM because it
*does* provide visual cues -- instead of <h1>Yadda Foo Bar</h1> you see
"Yadda Foo Bar" presented in large bold type. You might get a placeholder
for an inserted graphic, or you might see the graphic -- either way, you
know there's a graphic there. BUT! You don't have a PageMaker-like
environment where you place a graphic *here* and a bit of text *there*
and expect that everyone will jump through hoops to view it just the way
you intend.
Like I said, I think we agree on the important stuff. Hopefully I've
cleared that up.
-- Larry
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (sleddog)
Subject: Re: gcc problem
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 22:15:02 GMT
On 17 May 2000 12:51:57 -0500, Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, sleddog wrote:
>> checking for gcc... gcc
> [...]
>> checking for c++... no
>> checking for g++... no
>> checking for gcc... gcc
>> checking whether the C++ compiler (gcc ) works... no
>
>The configure script thinks that your system has gcc, but not the
>C++-compiler part. You need to install this, which should have a name
like
>"g++". (Your distribution may have hidden it under a name like "egcs".)
>
RedHat 6.0 has a package egcs-1.1.2-12.rpm which I had installed, and
another package egcs-c++-1.1.2-12.rpm that wasn't installed. Just
installed it and now we're working. Thanks... should've figure that out
for myself.
And thank to Andreas for taking time to reply.
--
sleddog
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Hinz)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: CD hiccups when playing MP3s
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 22:11:49 GMT
On Wed, 17 May 2000 16:54:06 GMT, Andrei Zmievski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>drive, every 20 seconds or so there is a hiccup like it's trying to
>fetch data and needs to respin the CD or something.
>
I had an equal problem having stored the MP3 file on a "autofs" mounted
drive with autonatic "umount" after a timeout.
It had to remount the drive every time it needed to read a new part of the MP3
file and this caused symptoms like yours.
Is your CD drive mounted by "autofs" / automount?
--
Med venlig hilsen / Best regards / Mit freundlichen Gr�ssen
Andreas Hinz
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From: Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: add a second root-account
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 15:08:07 -0700
Sorry. Trying not to be impertinent, no one is saying you
shouldn't mess around on your own system. You may make
mistakes, but I don't think anyone has told you that's ipso
facto a bad thing. We learn from our mistakes.
However, when it comes to fixing up your mistakes, using a
second UID = GID = 0 account may not be the ideal approach,
though you seem fixated on it. What's wrong with the
alternative approaches either to testing or to fix-up that
have been offered?
If you just have to do it your way, go for it. Please
report back because you seem to be going where no one has
gone before.
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From: Greg Greenway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kudzu segmentation fault
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 14:55:24 -0700
At the moment, there is nothing new to detect on my computer. Kudzu
just dies with a segmentation fault. Using strace, i found that it dies
after the following:
open("/proc/parport/0/autoprobe", O_RDONLY) = 4
read(4, "", 8192)
--- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) ---
I looked at the file autoprobe, and it is empty, but i have no idea what
it is supposed to be. Does this shed any light on the matter?
GREG
Dave Brown wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David .. wrote:
> >
> >To turn it off just give the command "setup" as root at a command prompt
> >then choose "System services" and remove the asterisk next to the
> >service you don't want to run at boot time. Then if or when you add
> >hardware you can turn it back on to try and configure new stuff.
>
> Does kudzu actually configure anything, or just detect new stuff
> and tell you it's detected it?
>
> --
> Dave Brown Austin, TX
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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Burning a Redhat 6.2 CD
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 22:47:02 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Eusebio Garate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hello,
>
> Is there anything special I have to do to burn a Redhat 6.2 CD that I
> can use to either install or update existing versions of Redhat? I ask
> because, after reading the Redhat CD mini-howto, I downloaded all the
> necessary files from a Redhat mirror site and burned a CD. However when
> I tried to install 6.2 or update an existing version of Redhat I got an
> error message that said: 'exec: no such file or directory' and the
> install/update terminated. -- Also, I used the latest updated boot image
> from Redhat's website.
The easiest way to do it is to download an image file, and burn it to CD
*AS AN IMAGE FILE* (precisely what the option is called varies from one
CD-R package to another). Since you've already got the files, though, you
might want to give it another go with what you've got. I've got a web page
devoted to the topic, although I've not updated it for the latest Red Hat
releases because of the ready availability of image files these days.
Check:
http://www.rodsbooks.com/rhjol/
Note that mixing and matching files from different sub-versions is
***NOT*** recommended. This may be the cause of your problem, if your
"latest updated boot image" doesn't match whatever your other files are.
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux networking & multi-OS configuration
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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: WordPerfect
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 22:52:16 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"David R. Klassen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> OK, it's been released - Corel WordPerfect Office 2000 for Linux.
> Anyone using it and want to give a review? I've been waiting for
> it and would like to know if it is really the cross-platform answer
> I've been waiting for.
I've seen reviews on a couple of Linux web sites, but I'm afraid I don't
recall the URLs, offhand. Personally, I can't use it; it's got a problem
when used under icewm, my favored window manager, wherein the main WP
window won't allow any other window (including its own dialog boxes) in
front of the main WP window. This renders the program close to useless for
me. It's also much too crash-prone. Others don't have these problems (it's
close to well-behaved in terms of window fronting behavior on fvwm, kwm
[KDE's window manager], and [IIRC] Afterstep). In other words, it really
does depend on your environment and what you intend to do with it.
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux networking & multi-OS configuration
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Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 19:06:12 -0400
From: Clueless Bozo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: German Govt says Microsoft a security risk
It's all semantics. If any government decides to bust your balls, your ball
are busted unless you have the necessary resources to fight 'em.
CB
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: Any way to fake/spoof MAC address?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 17 May 2000 18:02:14 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bob Hauck wrote:
>MAC addresses are 48 bits. Part of that is assigned to the card
>manufacturer and is common to all cards made by that company. The rest is
>a serial number assigned by the card manufacturer. Conflicts aren't
>supposed to happen.
>
But I've run into places that "administer" MAC addresses. I'm not sure why.
I've seen network cards that permitted loading a MAC address into them.
(I recall that token ring cards specifically permit this, but I believe
I've also seen ethernet cards with utilities to change MAC address. I
presume there are some network setups that have associated a MAC address
with a particular machine, and if that card needs to be replaced, it's
better to configure the card with the MAC address of the card it's
replacing.
(Bob, you didn't mention >why< you changed the MAC addr on your laptop.)
Needless to say, if cards can have their MAC addresses altered, it becomes
more likely to have duplicates floating around.
I don't recall how many bits are consumed by the mfr's code, but surely
3com has "overflowed" the remaining bits.
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux
Subject: Re: grep - how can I ...
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 17 May 2000 18:08:55 -0500
In article <InDU4.7040$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Charles Sullivan wrote:
>I seem to recall there was a way under Unix of making the 'grep'
>command (maybe in combination with some other command on the same
>same line) operate only on a specific field in a text record.
>
>For example, suppose I have a comma-delimited database file with
>records like:
>
> "John Smith","108 Main Street",...
> "Thomas Street","53 Elm Street",...
> "James Strong","401 Maple Street",...
>
>how can I grep out the records for all persons named "Street"
>in the file (not just Thomas) without also getting the address
>Streets?
grep is not field-oriented. Perhaps you're thinking of awk?
But with commas to delimit, a "regular expression" such as:
grep '^[^,]*Street' input_file
would do what you ask.
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: Ian Wilkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Making a Linux box authenticate to an NT domain
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 00:22:10 +0100
Does anyone know how to make a Linux box authenticate users paswords to an NT
domain server?
I don't want to have to manually create users and I don't want to have to
change passwords on both systems, as I have a lot of users and changes need to
be made regually.
I'm using Mandrake 7.
Thanks for you time.
Ian.
--
Medical Record quotations:
Since she can't get pregnant with her husband, I thought you would like
to work her up.
Uptime at 12:24am up 3 days, 2:15, 5 users,
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From: EnEmA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: applications behind ports
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 01:18:30 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi I'd like to know how to determine the name of the application
> running behind a port number ?
> I'd also like to know if
> a) an application can run on 2 different ports at the
> same time.
> b) an application can run on 2 different ports at
> different times.
> c) if 2 different applications can run on a port at the
> same time
> d) if 2 different applications can run on a port at
> different times.
>
> thank's
> reply: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If I understand correctly you are talking about servers right?
use netstat -lp to show all listening ports with application name and
process ID
if an application can run on different ports at the same time depends on
the application for example to let ircd can listen on multiple ports
just see the config file.
--
Barry Rutten
1:00am up 16:07, 3 users, load average: 1.43, 1.13, 1.07
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From: Chad Lemmen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Corel Linux and WINE
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 23:10:38 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Giles Hamlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am in the process of learning Corel Linux Deluxe 1.0 and wanted to
try to
> run a couple of Windows Apps in it.
>
> However, to a newbie, the WINE site is confusing to say the least. Can
> anyone give me any tips - what parts to download, how to install it,
how to
> run it etc?
>
> Much obliged!!!
>
> Giles
>
I've never tried WINE, but I just installed Win4Lin and it works great
for running Windows apps. It's different than WINE as it actually has
you install Windows from the Win CD. So you then run the apps right in
Windows. WINE lets the apps run on Linux natively. Win4Lin is just
like Merge for SCO UNIX. The price is $49.95, but I think its worth it.
Their web site is http://www.win4lin.com and you can read a review of
it at http://www.aplawrence.com/Reviews/win4lin.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: loopback filesystem (lofs) - not the same as mounting a file as a directory
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 23:10:14 GMT
I haven't seen any indications of the kernel supporting lofs (loop back
file system). This is in contrast to the loop back block device
file-system which linux does support.
In other words..
mounting a directory on top of another directory (possibly ext2.. could
be something else).
The loopback block device filesystem support that linux does have
consists of mounting a block device/file as a separate file system..
e.g. an encrypted file system and so on..
If anyone knows about it.. please let me know..
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From: JCA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: texinfo? BAH!
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 16:12:30 -0700
If memory serves well, the procedure was rather straightforward:
a) Copy the new info files to the /usr/info directory (or wherever
you keep them.)
b) Make a new entry in the dir file (which I have always seen in the
same directory as the info files) for the package described in those
info files. This is just a matter of editing dir and adding a line for the
new package; editing a preexisting, copied and pasted one ought to
do the trick.
Yan Seiner wrote:
> /rant
> If info is the best help system the Linux community can come up with,
> Windows will be with us for a long, long, long time. It it the most
> complicated, counter-intuitive, ridiculous help system I've ever come
> across!!!
> /rant off
>
> Ok, now that I have that off my chest, would someone please tell me how
> to add an entry to the texinfo directory tree?
>
> I've tried to follow the nearly worthless directions (worthless due to
> the vagueness and ambiguity) in the info system. I get no errors on:
>
> [root@aphrodite cipe]# install-info cipe.info /usr/info
>
> but when I do a
>
> info cipe
>
> I get
>
> No menu item "cipe" in node "(dir)Top".
>
> Of course, there is no help at all for, nor any explanation of, the
> actual directory tree that I've been able to find anywhere.
>
> And yes, I use vi as my editor of choice, I don't even have X on my
> server, and I've been around unix systems for quite a while. It's just
> that, IMHO, texinfo sucks.
>
> --Yan
>
> --
>
> Think different
> ride a recumbent
> use Linux.
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From: joe 90 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: applications behind ports
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 23:36:31 GMT
Given some answers, but you could always run a search for network
programming or take a look at the kernel guide, networking section at the
ldp project.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi I'd like to know how to determine the name of the application
> running behind a port number ?
have a look at /etc/services
>
> I'd also like to know if
> a) an application can run on 2 different ports at the
> same time.
yes, an example being you could have two different web servers running, one
being apache on port 80, and another perl http server for debugging on port
10000. This is also how virtual services are set up, using http again, if
you have one public ip address, it could serve multiple domain names, all
registered to the same ip address, but being served from different ports.
>
> b) an application can run on 2 different ports at
> different times.
>
yes
> c) if 2 different applications can run on a port at the
> same time
>
not sure - don't think so as i dont think there is anyway for the kernel to
route frames/datagrams/packets to the correct application
d) if 2 different applications can run on a port at
> different times.
>
same as the previous reply
>
> thank's
> reply: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Jim Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: XFree86 4.0 rpms
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 19:45:55 -0400
Silviu Minut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> How did you install it without breaking dependencies? XFree86-4 requires
> libncurses.so.5 but if you install ncurses-5
> you break a million packages, including util-linux, which contains login,
> fdisk, more, etc. Did you use --nodeps?
>
>
Isn't Linux supposed have solved this DLL hell type problem?
Can't one have multiple versions of a library installed at the same time or
is this a RPM problem you refer to Silviu?
Jim
>
> Jeff Volckaert wrote:
>
> > I just installed the Xfree86-4.0-08 rawhide RPMS on top of the
> > experimental Bero RPMS and all is well with my Matrox G200 & mystique
> > cards (dual monitor).
>
>
>
>
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From: Robert Schweikert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: build help please.
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 19:55:36 -0400
Argh!! Had it working in RH6.1, now I've upgraded to RH6.2 and there it
goes:
I have the following soft links:
ls -l /usr/include/linux
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 Jan 19 18:43
/usr/include/linux -> ../src/linux/include/linux
ls -l /usr/include/asm
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 May 11 22:51 /usr/include/asm
-> ../src/linux/include/asm
here /usr/src/linux/include/asm is only a file, which contains what
appears the contents from a directory listing.
ls -l /usr/src/linux-2.2.14/include/asm
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 May 17 18:49
/usr/src/linux-2.2.14/include/asm -> asm-i386
When I am trying to build stuff I get the following problem, just an
example:
In file included from /usr/include/bits/errno.h:25,
from /usr/include/errno.h:36,
from ../include/xincs.h:40,
from reswrap.cpp:24:
/usr/include/linux/errno.h:4: asm/errno.h: Not a directory
All the kernel stuff is installed:
rpm -qa | grep kernel
kernel-utils-2.2.14-5.0
kernel-ibcs-2.2.14-5.0
kernel-pcmcia-cs-2.2.14-5.0
kernelcfg-0.5-5
kernel-headers-2.2.14-5.0
kernel-2.2.14-5.0
kernel-smp-2.2.14-5.0
kernel-source-2.2.14-5.0
I also found the following link:
linux-2.2.14 -> linux-2.2.12
in /usr/src. I found this rather curious.
Oh and maybe one more detail, I of course have tons of header files
called errno.h
Help is needed and much appreciated. This time I will write myself a
note on how to get this working.
Thanks,
Robert
--
Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU
[EMAIL PROTECTED] LINUX
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: XMMS & Sound
Date: 17 May 2000 20:04:24 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 17 May 2000 23:07:05 +0200, Beno�t Smith
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>Dances With Crows wrote:
>> And this error message is?...
>"Please check that:
>1. You have the correct output plugin selected
>2. No other program is blocking the soundcard
>3. Your soundcard is configured properly" [NB: I just had to uncomment
>the right module (es1371) in /etc/rc.d/rc.modules]
Aha! I have an ES1371, and I set it up like so, with all the following
line in /etc/conf.modules:
alias char-major-14 es1371
This made everything work beautifully, including wavplay and xmms and
various sound-using games. It's entirely possible that xmms is looking
for a module by name of "char-major-14" and not finding it... hence the
odd error messages. Since you said that playing .wavs and audio CDs works
well, that's the only thing I can think of that might be going wrong. I
guess I'd just create the file /etc/conf.modules and put that single line
in it... shouldn't hurt, might help, and if it does hurt, just remove the
file.
>> Oops, misunderstanding time. OSS, confusingly enough, stands for two
>> things: The Open Sound System implementation that's distributed as source
>> with the Linux kernel, and the commercial OSS sound drivers that you can
>Does it mean that I may to recompile the kernel with OSS support ?
[WARNING: Here Be Dragons.]
Nope. There are a select few cards that don't quite follow the OSS
standard, and the ES1371 is one of them. My kernel configuration has
sound support and ES1371 support built as modules--no OSS enabled
anywhere, and sound works well. Anyway, hope this helps... I know how
frustrating getting sound to work can be.
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| You have me mixed up with more
There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| creative ways of being stupid?
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| Beer is a vegetable. WinNT
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| is the study of cool. --MegaHAL
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