Linux-Misc Digest #518, Volume #24 Thu, 18 May 00 19:13:03 EDT
Contents:
BOSTON-LINUX ENGINEERS WANTED (Connexion Systems & Engineering)
Re: Apache: setting effective user ID for CGI scripts? ("John Riehl")
How to connect to a windows NT server by ppp ? (Fox)
Re: Any way to fake/spoof MAC address? (Grant Edwards)
Re: /opt verus /usr/local (Harlan Grove)
Verify or compare data on CDRW ("Jim Tadd")
Re: /opt verus /usr/local (Paul Kimoto)
Re: WYSIWYG web page generator ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Help with Red Hat 6.1 install on a i486 (Chris Stump)
Re: WordPerfect (James Franklin)
Re: Can't see MAN command output (Paul Lew)
Re: USR/3COM 56K PCI FaxModem Model 5610 config ("David ..")
Re: WYSIWYG web page generator (John Hasler)
Install RH on 2nd HD or new partition? (Chris Stump)
Re: Motif release to Open Source Community leads to Open Motif Everywhere (Keith
Thompson)
krecord, oss3.8.0c and cdrecord (seckloff)
Re: XFree86 4.0 rpms (Silviu Minut)
Re: WordPerfect (JEDIDIAH)
Re: WYSIWYG web page generator (JEDIDIAH)
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (Leslie Mikesell)
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (Steve)
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (Steve)
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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 17:14:32 -0400
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From: "John Riehl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: Apache: setting effective user ID for CGI scripts?
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 21:25:24 GMT
ok wrote in message <8em7hn$apf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Problem, I have to chmod my web dir to 777 in order for my CGI scripts to
be
>able to access it. How can I assign "effective user ID" to scripts run
from
>the cgi-bin dir?
dont set your webdir to 777. apache runs at the userid/group that you
configure in the httpd.conf file. (usually nobody/nobody by default).
Understanding that, you probably have a permissions problem, but setting the
cgi-dir to 777 is not necessary, and a security risk. If the cgi-bin is
under the apache tree, and the apache user owns the files (i.e. you didnt
create them leaving a different person owning the data), you shouldnt have
any problem. Of course, you have to set all cgis as executable. If the
cgi is writing/reading files from the system, the apache userid has to have
appropriate access.
if you have multiple virtual domains, where you want the cgi of one domain
to execute as one userid in one case,and other cgis in another directory to
execute as another userid, use suexec. But if you are having problems
understanding basic permissions, getting suexec working could be a problem.
jr
riehl at earthlink dot net
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From: Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to connect to a windows NT server by ppp ?
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 05:37:52 +0800
Hi All:
as the subject
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: Any way to fake/spoof MAC address?
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 21:39:08 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Prasanth Kumar wrote:
>> Incidently, what does MAC stand for?
>>
><snip>
>
>I believe it stands for "Medium Access Control"
I usually see it written "Media Access Control[ler]", but since
most of then only control a single "wire", it should probably
be the singular "Medium".
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! Being a BALD HERO
at is almost as FESTIVE as a
visi.com TATTOOED KNOCKWURST.
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From: Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: /opt verus /usr/local
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 14:25:47 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Praedor Tempus
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>Bob Tennent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently
>>scribble:
>>>I suggest using /opt for packages that insist on being
>>>kept together under a directory. This is usually the
>>>case for commercial packages such as WordPerfect.
>>>Use /usr/local for packages that distribute themselves
>>>into standard sub-directories such as bin, lib, man,
>>>etc, src, include, and so on. But "whole" packages can
>>>go under /usr/local as well.
<snip>
> . . . It doesn't matter if a package wants to be all
>together since being all together can be accomplished in
>or out of /opt. It can all be kept together in its own
>directory under /usr/local every bit as easily as it can
>under /opt. Basically, they are redundant and confusing.
>I tend to not permit /opt to exist on my systems. I
>relocate everything that wants to go there into /usr/local.
Looks like /opt is intended to be similar to Windows's
Program Files directory, which would make it a mystery why
relatively basic stuff like KDE or Gnome would be put
there. However, I can't figure out why /opt/bin is needed
as opposed to symlinks in /usr/local/bin.
I think the following case could be made for the presence
of both /usr/local and /opt. Commercial applications change
infrequently, and could be located on read-only media.
Indeed, if the software only needed to add directories and
files to /etc and individual users' HOME directories, then
there could be mount points under /opt for CDs containing
these packages.
Noncommercial software is more likely to use traditional
subdirectory hierarchy (bin, doc, lib, man, etc.), and it's
likely to change more frequently. There's more of an
argument for it to be located on read-write media to
accomodate such changes.
We could take this further. Why is there a /usr/games
directory? Shouldn't everything be under /usr/local/games?
If /opt is unnecessary, what's the point of /mnt since
mount points could be created under /tmp? However, I go the
other way. If /opt and /usr/local were for commercial and
noncommercial packages, respectively, /opt shouldn't be
copied from machine to machine but /usr/local could be,
and /opt and /usr/local could have different backup admin.
[Getting very esoteric, /opt/<package> could contain
multiple subdirectories for different architectures,
e.g., /opt/XYZ/i386, /opt/XYZ/PPC, /opt/XYZ/sparc
and /opt/XYZ/noarch, in which case a single /opt could be
shared across a network of heterogenous machines. On the
other hand, /usr/local is pretty clearly machine-specific.
But this goes back to whether /opt/bin makes sense.]
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From: "Jim Tadd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Verify or compare data on CDRW
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 22:38:41 +0100
Can anyone advise me of a way of checking that files I copy to a CDR or a
CDRW have been copied correctly. ie. verify or compare the data. I just need
some shell commands that I could put into a script. I basically want to copy
a directory structure and files straight onto the CD and then check that the
data has recorded OK. I don't want to produce a tarred or gzipped archive.
Jim
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: /opt verus /usr/local
Date: 18 May 2000 17:39:58 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Harlan Grove wrote:
> Red Hat puts KDE and Gnome in /usr
> rather than either /opt or /usr/local.
If it's packaged by the distributor of the whole system, it should go in
/usr or somewhere similar. /opt and /usr/local are for things that come
from other sources.
--
Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: WYSIWYG web page generator
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 16:48:30 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Mark Wilden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've never killfiled a newsgroup participant in my life. I think it's
> far more efficient to simply ignore the person
I used to be that ideological. Eventually you'll encounter someone so
truly annoying that your won't be able to maintain a policy of actively
ignoring him. It's just so much more efficient to let the newsreader do
it for you.
--
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From: Chris Stump <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help with Red Hat 6.1 install on a i486
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 16:49:18 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks for the reply, but unfortuantely this problem isn't that simple.
If I
'cancel' the drivers question, the the installation asks me for my
keyboard
type, preferred language, etc. (as if its going to install normally), but
then it goes back to the drivers question. And if I hit 'cancel' a second
time, the install 'exits abnormally'?!? Any help is greatly
appreciated...
"David .." wrote:
> When it asks for the drivers disk just choose cancel. It should bypass
> the driver disk and continue with the install.
>
> --
> Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
> ID # 123538
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From: James Franklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WordPerfect
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 16:55:38 -0500
I bought it and installed it on my Mandrake 7.0. Using a PII, 300Mhz it is
extremely slow to load and process documents. The conversions seem to go ok if
the documents are simple. It did not generate any mime types for my KDE either
so I have to make them so I can one-click open them.
I do not like the dependence on WINE. I also could not get WINE to work well.
WPO 2000 adds it own copy/version of wine and runs it instead of the wine I
already had loaded, so at least WPO 2000 works with its version of WINE.
Overall my happiness with the product is not high but I do not regret the
purchase. I fully support LINUX and if you compare the price to MS Office, it
is a pittance.
On Wed, 17 May 2000, Dave Brown wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Carl Fink wrote:
>>On Wed, 17 May 2000 14:31:45 -0400 David R. Klassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>OK, it's been released - Corel WordPerfect Office 2000 for Linux.
>>>Anyone using it and want to give a review?
>>
>>It's remarkably slow, has the bugs Rod described in his message, and
>>is nearly unusable in my opinion -- certainly far worse than
>>WordPerfect 8 for Linux (which was written by SDCorp specifically for
>>Linux).
>>--
>
>That's pretty disappointing, then. I've been quite satisfied with WP7
>and WP8 for Linux (although I found then not real successful at importing
>Word docs; even found that the Win95 version of WP7 better at importing
>Word6 docs).
>
>But I got the impression that maybe this "port" of Corel Office was
>heavily dependent on WINE work. And since I'd never had any luck getting
>WINE to run anything that I wanted to run, I guess my hopes were not high.
>
>But, I'm still reserving judgement until I get to see something "in the
>flesh".
>
>--
>Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Lew)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Can't see MAN command output
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 21:58:11 GMT
I sometimes get everything on 1 line (same line); when that happens
I just do a "vi dummy" then quit; the "dummy" doesn't get written
and the screen recovers to normal.
On Thu, 18 May 2000 14:44:15 +0800, Treasury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have just upgraded my RH Linux 6.1 to 6.2, and all seems to have
>worked well except for one point:
>
>When I do a "man <something>" command, I get just a blank screen with a
>highlighted "END" at the bottom. Apart from this, terminal mode seems
>to work OK.
>
>This happens whether I am in terminal mode per se, or running a terminal
>under X.
>
>Anyone know what causes this?
>
>Thanks,
>Graham Daniell
>
>
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: USR/3COM 56K PCI FaxModem Model 5610 config
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 16:58:32 -0500
Robert Lynch wrote:
>
> Hi-
>
> I bought a VALinux system with a "USR/3COM 56K PCI FaxModem Model 5610"
> and found that this was config'd by a script called from
> /etc/rc.d/rc.local. I'm posting this for anyone searching for this
> modem config (I dunno, maybe it's common knowledge, but methinks not :)
What calls the script? I know rc.local but what is the line that calls
it?
--
Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WYSIWYG web page generator
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 20:57:19 GMT
Mark Wilden writes:
> To those of us who write commercial sites, the look can be _more_ important
> than the content.
Io those of us who read commercial sites the look almost always gets in the
way of the content. The overwhelming majority of commercial sites are
ugly, overcomplicated, full of spurious graphics, and hard to use.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
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From: Chris Stump <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Install RH on 2nd HD or new partition?
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 17:14:13 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Greetings,
I just had my computer die on me, the short story is that my
hardrive became corrupt and took my Red Hat Linux 6.1 and Windows 98
OS's (which were on the same HD) out with it. The drive is shot and is
soon to be replaced by a new one (luckily I had everything backed-up and
my puter is still under warrenty!).
The first sign of HD corruption occured when Windows tampered with
LILO and thus prevented LILO from working properly. Basically, after
this happened I could only boot Linux off of a rescue disk--Windows was
inaccesible (except through linux). I tried to do a 'fdisk /mbr' off of
a windows start-up disk to replace the Master Boot Record, but it didn't
work (thus, 1st sign of HD corruption)...the rest was downhill from
there.
Anyways, this computer really belongs to my sister, and although
everything will be fine soon, I'm wary about repartitioning the new
drive, reinstalling linux, and having a dual-boot system run by LILO.
This is only because I will be moving away from this computer soon and
if something like this happens again to the HD (if LILO gets corrupted)
then my sister will have a huge mess on her hands and won't have a clue
as to how she should fix it...and the last thing she would want to do is
trouble-shoot it over the phone with me. However, I need my linux, and I
would like to be able to access the computer remotely when I move away.
So, basically I'd rather not use LILO anymore--its great and all, but
when it gets corrupted, it royally screws things up. My question is
which method of installation would be safer for me? To buy a second
hardrive, install linux on that, and then boot it off of a floppy? Or
repartition the HD to how it was before and just boot off of a floppy
instead of using LILO? Is one method necessarily safer than the other?
Why? Finally, during my Red Hat 6.1 Gnome workstation install I don't
remember having the option of whether or not I wanted LILO to be
installed...it just did it. Also, I was not given the option to make a
boot disk. Should the installation give me these options? Any advice
is greatly appreciated...
Thanks in advance to all those who reply.
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From: Keith Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Motif release to Open Source Community leads to Open Motif Everywhere
Date: 18 May 2000 15:47:33 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonathan Thornburg) writes:
[...]
> The supercomputer arena also has a number of other proprietory OSes
> which are (alas) probably going to hang around for a long time... eg
> I haven't seen any serious suggestions that the soon-to-be-released
> Cray SV1 (= next-generation "classic vector supercomputer") will run
> Linux. UNICOS is much more likely.
I think you're thinking of the SV2. The SV1 has been out for a while,
and it does run Unicos. Presumably the SV2 will also run Unicos,
though I don't have any inside information on that.
--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) [EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
San Diego Supercomputer Center <*> <http://www.sdsc.edu/~kst>
Welcome to the last year of the 20th century.
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Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 01:52:18 +0200
From: seckloff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: krecord, oss3.8.0c and cdrecord
hi,
today I recorded a "black disk" in order to write it to a CD.
krecord run well, yet i found out, that the config dialog doesn't allow
me to set the sampling rate to 44100 (all other rates are ok) - i'm
always forced to use 44101 instead. that results in wrong rate and
length entries in the wave-file, therefore cdrecord complains of that
(inappropriate <i don't remember>). changing the sample rate entry in
the wave file with hexedit doesn't help at all - later on cdrecord
complains of records, which aren't built of multiples of 2532-byte
chunks.
what can i do?
is there a different recording program (command line prog also
welcome)?
i use suse linux 6.4 and a soundblaster pci128.
thanks in advance siggi
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From: Silviu Minut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: XFree86 4.0 rpms
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 18:56:17 -0400
> This isn't an issue with Linux, it's shared library scheme, the dynamic
> loader, etc. It's _purely_ a packaging issue.
>
I totally agree, but it ain't my fault. I was just looking for a cheap solution,
namely to force ncurses-5 over ncurses-4, and I was hoping that someone has
already tried that. Of course, I can always compile a standalone libncurses.so.5,
and use it with so.4.
>
> --
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Paul D. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Network Management Development
> "Please remain calm...I may be mad, but I am a professional." --Mad Scientist
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> These are my opinions---Nortel Networks takes no responsibility for them.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
Subject: Re: WordPerfect
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 22:56:30 GMT
On Thu, 18 May 2000 16:55:38 -0500, James Franklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I bought it and installed it on my Mandrake 7.0. Using a PII, 300Mhz it is
>extremely slow to load and process documents. The conversions seem to go ok if
How does it compare to SO5 in terms of responsiveness?
[deletia]
I'm am disinclined to actually fork over money for non-native
ports in general. While I agree the market needs to be encouraged.
I think non-native ports ultimately do more harm than good.
--
In what language does 'open' mean 'execute the evil contents of' |||
a document? --Les Mikesell / | \
Need sane PPP docs? Try penguin.lvcm.com.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
Subject: Re: WYSIWYG web page generator
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 22:57:13 GMT
On Thu, 18 May 2000 20:57:19 GMT, John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Mark Wilden writes:
>> To those of us who write commercial sites, the look can be _more_ important
>> than the content.
>
>Io those of us who read commercial sites the look almost always gets in the
>way of the content. The overwhelming majority of commercial sites are
>ugly, overcomplicated, full of spurious graphics, and hard to use.
This can even be viewed as a drag by the upper management of
those very same companies...
--
In what language does 'open' mean 'execute the evil contents of' |||
a document? --Les Mikesell / | \
Need sane PPP docs? Try penguin.lvcm.com.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Date: 18 May 2000 17:56:58 -0500
In article <8g1k4e$qes$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: But, for a RH system, the RH placements are standard. This turns
>: out to be an acquired taste. Back when it was hard to find up to
>: date RPMs for everything and many programs needed local tuning to
>: work right, it was kind of annoying to have my custom-compiled
>: programs land in /usr/local/ while the stock RH versions of the
>: same thing did not use /usr/local at all. However, now that just
>: about everything in the world is already built as an up-to-date RH
>: oriented rpm and I only have a few things in /usr/local, I
>: am starting to like it that way.
>
>I've been using debian sources for too long now to remember what I used
>to have to undo in the RH ones. I think it was config files that didn't
>go into /etc but instead some place in /usr/lib.
RH puts all config files in etc, even the ones that don't really
belong there. For example /usr/lib/X11/lib/xinit is a symlink to
./../../../etc/X11/xinit.
>I use /usr/local for things that weren't in my original system and
>aren't likely to be in it for the foreseeable future. Netscape would
>be an example, though I can't think of any good ones.
On an stock rpm-installed Redhat - and Mandrake:
/usr/bin/netscape
/usr/bin/netscape-communicator
/usr/bin/netscape-navigator
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 19 May 2000 00:07:39 GMT
On Wed, 17 May 2000 14:39:01 GMT, martin wrote:
>On Tue, 16 May 2000 23:47:56 GMT, Mongoose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
>
>>Hello,
>> I am attempting to start a college project and have two of my
>>ideas already being worked on. So I wanted to know what other people
>>had for suggestions for linux projects? I was thinking of something
>>along the lines of a project that would help promote the use of linux.
>>What is something that most people could use? Something that could
>>make a good 1 year R&D project?
>
>How about an easy-to-use text editor ? (console, not GUI please :) ?
>One without a million complex commands, but with ability to select
>text with shift+arrow keys, like most dos/windows/os2-based editors
>do, F2 to save a file instead of Ctrl-x + Ctrl-s or something and
>those other features that are standard on other operating systems.
>
>Basically, a simple editor that doesn't need a 300-page tutorial.
>I can't find any of those in linux. Not for console anyway.
I'd second this, even Nedit doesn't fit the bill, what we want is just
Pico with the ability to copy and paste and cut with shift and arrow
keys, and F keys to do simple things like save, save as and exit etc.
--
Cheers
Steve email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
%HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee 0 pps.
web http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~sjlen/
or http://start.at/zero-pps
4:10pm up 1 day, 15 min, 3 users, load average: 1.26, 1.19, 1.09
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 19 May 2000 00:07:40 GMT
On 18 May 2000 06:20:59 GMT, Koos Pol wrote:
>On Wed, 17 May 2000 14:39:01 GMT, martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>|
>| How about an easy-to-use text editor ? (console, not GUI please :) ?
>| One without a million complex commands, but with ability to select
>| text with shift+arrow keys, like most dos/windows/os2-based editors
>| do, F2 to save a file instead of Ctrl-x + Ctrl-s or something and
>| those other features that are standard on other operating systems.
>|
>| Basically, a simple editor that doesn't need a 300-page tutorial.
>| I can't find any of those in linux. Not for console anyway.
>|
>|
>| --
>| Martin
>
>
>Oh yes you can! Try FTE. It does exactly all what you requested :-)
>http://fte.sourceforge.net/
>
It doesn't run in the xterm that you're currently in, and if I remember
it kept insisting on opening a window that was too big for the screen,
and changing the default colours was a nightmare, I gave up with it
in the end.
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