Linux-Misc Digest #519, Volume #24               Thu, 18 May 00 21:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  NIS group issues (greg tomczyk)
  autofs and auto-detecting floppies. (Patrick M Geahan)
  Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (Victor Wagner)
  compiling error ("Karen E. Chancellor")
  Re: A couple of beginner questions (Bit Twister)
  Re: AOL for Linux??? (Andrew Purugganan)
  Re: Verify or compare data on CDRW (Steve)
  Re: Trident 9750 AGP 4MB on Linux (Dances With Crows)
  Re: USR/3COM 56K PCI FaxModem Model 5610 config (Robert Lynch)
  Windows, Linux, and Gatway-  please advise (BigDaddyJake)
  Re: hosts.deny fills up redundantly (David Turley)
  Re: Useful tip (Dewey Chan)
  Re: WYSIWYG web page generator (John Hasler)
  Re: Any way to fake/spoof MAC address? (John Hasler)
  Re: HP-UX vs. Linux (Juergen Heinzl)
  Re: Redhat6.2 Network bug ?? ("Mike Baker")
  setting up newserver (Kimo R.)
  Convert HTML to CGI
  Re: Windows, Linux, and Gatway-  please advise (Gerald Willmann)
  Re: /opt verus /usr/local (Frank Hahn)
  Re: Windows, Linux, and Gatway-  please advise ("Charles Sullivan")
  Re: Why .bashrc not take effect? (Mark Bratcher)
  Re: Mounting drives (Mark Bratcher)

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From: greg tomczyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: NIS group issues
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 16:12:27 -0700

Hello gang, I hope all is well. I have come to seek the advice of the
NIS gods again.

This is my last little problem.  I have two Redhat 6.2 machines serving
as NIS master and slave to Solaris and linux clients.  Everything is
working tip top except the group file.  When I do a ypcat group the only
information I get back are groups with a gid greater than 999.  Any
groups defined with a gid less than 999 are not pushed out.  I further
tested this by creating 2 new groups, one with a GID 500 and the other
GID of 10000 and thn ran my make. The group file was updated and pushed
and only the group with the GID of 10000 appeared in the NIS database.


Is there a problem with Linux version of YP and the group file. My
production environment has about 20 or so groups defined with GIDs
under 999. For example I have the group testdev::111: and webdev::222:
etc... and none of them show up when I do a ypcat.


Does anyone know what is happening?

thanks
Greg






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From: Patrick M Geahan<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: autofs and auto-detecting floppies.
Date: 18 May 2000 23:23:04 GMT


According to the autofs(5) manpage, the following should autodetect the
filesystem on a floppy and automount it:

floppy          -fstype=auto           :/dev/fd0

I've also tried -fstype=autofs.  Either way, when I try to cd to that
directory, I get a "directory not found" error.  If I switch to
fstype=msdos and put a DOS floppy in the drive, it works fine.

Anyone know how to make it autodetect the floppy type?  

-- 

=======Patrick M [EMAIL PROTECTED]=======ICQ:3784715==========
Quote of the Week: "'Do you want to take a look at my regular expressions
?' is not a valid chat-up line" - Chris King in the Monastery.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Victor Wagner)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Date: 18 May 2000 09:50:55 +0400

In comp.os.linux.misc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: Mongoose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

:>   I was thinking, maybe not just servers and stuff, but an application
:> that windows users have but linux doesn't. Something that would give
:> windows users more of an incentive to move to linux, or help them
:> migrate to linux.

: The way I see it, Linux needs the following, at minimum, before it can
: be a legitimate competitor to Windows:

: 1. A streamlined, easy install process;

Disagree. System should be installed by competent techinicans in
computer shops. Windows is not any more easy to install than say
Mandrake 7.0, only user do it much more frequently, so get used to it.

: 2. An office suite roughly as functional as Office, and at least as
:    easy to use;

But based on quite diferent ideas - it shouldn't be so bloated and
should have ability to use its components in scripts, and add own
components written as simple scripts or C programs to common GUI.

: 3. A GUI package installation mechanism that's as easy to use as
:    InstallShield (trivial if we get a file manager for GNOME or KDE); and

Whats wrong with capt?

: 4. A GUI interface to the most common configuration files.

Never, never, never let user who doesn't understand things tweak the
config files. For such users remote sysadmin service via SSH should be
provided. 

: In order to beat Windows, client-side, we need:

: 1. A GUI interface to *all* configuration files;
I've expressed my opinion above. I'd prefer something like expert system
- somethig which allows to ask question on natural language, and answer
  with extracts of man and howto. NO GUI - interface just like micq, but
  much more interactivity than stupid office equipment in MS Office
  2000.
  
: 2. Integration of all Linux documentation into a centralized,
:    searchable help center;
Whats wrong with dwww?
: 3. A DirectX-like platform for hardware-accelerated devices, not
:    necessarily at the kernel level;
Whats wrong with OpenGL?
: 4. Abstraction of many protocols and features, ala ODBC (which I hate
:    because it never works, not because it's a bad idea); and
Whats wrong with
1. ODBC?
2. DBI/DBD?

: 4. A "killer app."  Unfortately, the odds of this being in the office
:    suite are about zero, as MS has far too much of an edge on this
:    front.  The GIMP, with a few unique features, may have the
:    potential to get there.
Given Adobe PhotoShop for Linux coming in half a year?
No, if apache is not killer app, you'll have to invent totally new way
of using computers.

But I can give you an idea - some canvas which can be used just is
people use a piece of page - write text, write formulas (and they will
be calculated), draw graphs (and they will be aproximated by formula),
draw arbitrary drawing, and replace hand-drawn objects with exact
gometry shape if desired.

and all the thing could be converted to well-enough printable form (no
better quality than Word gives) with few mouse clicks.

Most people would say, hey, this is Word, Excel and MathCad in one
window, becouse they don't really need neither Word, nor Excel, nor
MathCad - they need to write simple text, compute simple expressions and
draw simple graphs. Now MS give them feature-bloated programs, most of
features of which they never learn, but they consume their hard disk
space but no professional would use them becouse of poor output quality, 
and OpenSource gives them Lisp and TeX and Emacs, which require
considerable learning to do anything at all, although if you spend
enough time learning, you get quality output.


: Linux has survived largely because its only real competitor,
: reliability- and performance-wise, was NT, which few "regular" people
: liked because it runs about as many Windows programs as Linux.  But
: with Windows 2000 out, suddenly the "mainstream" Windows is comparably
: stable and feature-laden.  I think that, unless Linux starts playing
: catch-up in a big way, we're going to be relegated to the niche market
: we've been, until recently, exclusively a part of.

: I suppose that now I'm going to have to get Linux running again so I
: can put my programming hours where my mouth is.  (Reason I'm not using
: it now?  The fucking Aureal Vortex 2 drivers are (a) non-free; and (b)
: unusably poor.)

: -- 
: Eric P. McCoy ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

: non-combatant, n.  A dead Quaker.
:         - Ambrose Bierce, _The Devil's Dictionary_

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From: "Karen E. Chancellor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: compiling error
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 16:49:30 -0400

I  have RedHat  6.2 and have attempted to recompile kernel. I did bzdisk
and so have booted new kernel from disk. Seems to run ok, but I get a
ton of 'depmod...unresolved symbols' messages.  What does this mean?
After kernel compile, I did make modules, make modules_install and
depmod -a.
I am trying to compile the alsa sound drivers. I downloaded the newest
versions. But make gives me
make[1] *** sound.o Error 1
How do I find out what this means? I am new to this stuff. Tried to get
sound working with the stuff that came in my distribution but was
unsuccessful. Alsa has been recommended.
All help appreciated. Please cc: to e-mail.
Thanks.
Karen


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bit Twister)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: A couple of beginner questions
Reply-To: This_news_group
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 23:33:00 GMT

I had all sorts of problems with gnome on 6.0.
You need several security fixes.

http://cart.cheapbytes.com/cgi-bin/cart has 6.2 
for about $4 plus shipping. 
I got Mandrake 7.0-2 (~$2) and starting using kde and have
not had any problems.




netiquette tip:  Set your browser to line wrap at 72 characters.
No mime encodding. Text only.
Some people will not respond, if they have to re-format your post.

Oh, browser users, you might want to read 
        http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2000-02.html
before jumping on me.



On Wed, 17 May 2000 03:57:05 GMT, Tandem Guy
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>Hello.  I'm a new Linux (Redhat 6.0) user and I have a couple of
>questions.  The first, I think is sort of serious.  I currently only
>have root and one other user account.  I've never had any trouble using
>either account.  Just the day before yesterday I began having a specific
>problem with my root account.  When I boot the machine and log in as
>root it takes forever for X Windows (is that the correct term) to load.
>Once it loads I don't have any trouble until it is time to log out.
>When I click the Log out choice from the menu nothing happens.  I hear
>the hard drive spin for a short bit, but I'm not given the normal menu
>with reboot, halt, etc  Finally, I end up just turning the power off and
>I'm sure this isn't the thing to do.  This only happens for my root
>login, I have no trouble halting the machine if I'm logged on as a
>regular user. If anyone could solve this mystery, I'd greatly appreciate
>it!


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Subject: Re: AOL for Linux???
Date: 18 May 2000 23:25:33 GMT

Gerald Willmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: On Thu, 18 May 2000, Harlan Grove wrote:

: why - linux grows faster than NT and if I remember correctly AOL + some
: computer maker announced a webdevice recently which was supposed to be
: based on linux so they will probably develop a linux client for that.

youcan browse aol mail at aolmail.com, i even installed gaim & everybuddy 
for my wife who's hardcore about these AOL chat thingies. Really, the 
only thing missing is their interface (Thank God!) because there's NO WAY 
that THAT thing will ever be installed on my Linux box
--sorry to get off on a rant there
--
jazz  annandy AT dc DOT seflin DOT org
Registered linux user no. 164098
Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
--- OUT THERE??

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve)
Subject: Re: Verify or compare data on CDRW
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 19 May 2000 00:51:41 GMT

On Thu, 18 May 2000 22:38:41 +0100, Jim Tadd wrote:
>Can anyone advise me of a way of checking that files I copy to a CDR or a
>CDRW have been copied correctly. ie. verify or compare the data. I just need
>some shell commands that I could put into a script. I basically want to copy
>a directory structure and files straight onto the CD and then check that the
>data has recorded OK. I don't want to produce a tarred or gzipped archive.


Sum is the command that you want, it produces a checksum for a file or a group
of files.  See the man page and the help message "sum -h" for more info.
 

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%HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee  0 pps. 

web http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~sjlen/

or  http://start.at/zero-pps

 12:18am  up 1 day,  8:23,  5 users,  load average: 1.00, 1.05, 1.07

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Trident 9750 AGP 4MB on Linux
Date: 18 May 2000 19:58:47 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thu, 18 May 2000 20:30:07 GMT, theBuddy1 
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>when i tried installing red hat linux, the XConfigurator thing to 
>automatically determin the resolution. it gave me 640X480. now, with this 
>resolution i can have 16 bit color, but thats it. and when i tried 
>changing the resolution to even 800X600, and then tested it out, it failed 
>the test. so, the settings reverted back to 640X480. can u tell me if that 
>gave u any problem. i tried installing red hat linux 6.1. should i ignore 
>it and select 1024X768 and just pray that everythign goes well? please 

Trident cards have more problems than many other cards.  The notes for
Xfree86 3.3.6 say that the support is better there than in previous
releases.  RedHat 6.1 shipped with Xfree86 3.3.5, so if you have problems
getting your desired resolution, it might be worthwhile to upgrade to
3.3.6.  There are RPMs for 3.3.6 available on RedHat's site or on
http://rufus.w3.org/ , or you can get the binaries from the Xfree86
site.  Check the following URLs for guides on upgrading:

http://www.xfree86.org/3.3.6/RELNOTES.html
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mhgraham/UpgradeXfree.html

-- 
Matt G / Dances With Crows              \###| You have me mixed up with more
There is no Darkness in Eternity         \##| creative ways of being stupid?
But only Light too dim for us to see      \#| Beer is a vegetable.  WinNT
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| is the study of cool. --MegaHAL

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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 17:02:04 -0700
From: Robert Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: USR/3COM 56K PCI FaxModem Model 5610 config

"David .." wrote:
> 
> Robert Lynch wrote:
> >
> > Hi-
> >
> > I bought a VALinux system with a "USR/3COM 56K PCI FaxModem Model 5610"
> > and found that this was config'd by a script called from
> > /etc/rc.d/rc.local.  I'm posting this for anyone searching for this
> > modem config (I dunno, maybe it's common knowledge, but methinks not :)
> 
> What calls the script? I know rc.local but what is the line that calls
> it?
> 
> --
> Registered with the Linux Counter.  http://counter.li.org
> ID # 123538

At the end of rc.local is the line:
=====
...
    # This will overwrite /etc/issue at every boot.  So, make any
changes you
    # want to make to /etc/issue here or you will lose them when you
reboot.
    echo "" > /etc/issue
    echo "$R" >> /etc/issue
    echo "Kernel $(uname -r) on $a $SMP$(uname -m)" >> /etc/issue
 
    cp -f /etc/issue /etc/issue.net
    echo >> /etc/issue
fi
/usr/sbin/usr_pci_modem.sh 
---
Hope this answers your question.  Bob
L.                                                     
-- 
Robert Lynch-Berkeley CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Subject: Windows, Linux, and Gatway-  please advise
From: BigDaddyJake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 17:04:41 -0700

Greetings,

I'd like to run Linux on my computer-  a desktop Celeron 333
from Gateway 2000.  I've tried to install Caldera Open Linux 2.3
several times without success.  It freezes during install every
time.  I may be crazy, but I'm beginning to suspect that Gateway
computers which are shipped with Windows have somehow been
tweaked to prevent another OS from being installed.  What I'm
looking for is an OS to run *instead* of Windows.  I want to
remove windows from my pc altogether.  Any comments or opinions
are greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

BDJ

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From: David Turley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: hosts.deny fills up redundantly
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 20:22:11 -0400

On Thu, 18 May 2000 10:20:31 -0600, Praedor Tempus apparently wrote:
> I am running portsentry on my system.  I find that every day entries to
> my hosts.deny increases, which would be fine if the new entries WERE 
> always new.  Instead, I get a couple new/unique entries added to 
> hosts.deny but, by far, the majority of entries are redundant.  I end
> up with a file loaded with repeated entries of the same IP address.

why use the hosts.deny feature? All you need in /etc/host.deny is 

ALL: ALL

or

ALL: ALL : spawn (echo Attempt from %h %a to %d at `date` | tee -a 
/var/log/tcp.deny.log | mail root )    

Then just allow who you want in hosts.allow

-- 
David Turley
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dewey Chan)
Subject: Re: Useful tip
Date: 19 May 2000 00:14:02 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Wed, 17 May 2000 17:36:15 GMT, Prasanth Kumar wrote:
>>I just noticed that you can press [scroll lock] while Linux is booting
>>to
>>pause the flow of information in case it goes by too fast! Press it
>>again
>>to resume. I never thought of this before some maybe it will be useful
>>to
>>others when they are troubleshooting.

And you can also use shift page up on the first console to see these
messages.


-dc

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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: WYSIWYG web page generator
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 21:20:50 GMT

Mark Wilden writes:
> It sounds like you're talking primarily about home pages, rather than
> commercial sites. People who write commercial sites that don't draw
> viewers don't end up writing many more commercial sites. And in those
> terms, what draws viewers is what's 'proper'.

What draws money is what is 'proper'.  This past winter I spent about $3500
of my VA Linux money on parts for a new workstation.  In the process I
shopped at least 100 web sites.  At least 25% of them lost any chance at a
piece of my business because their pages were so screwed up that I couldn't
read them on my 14" 8bpp display.  Few of the rest were more then barely
tolerable.

> This is another clue that what you're referring to is individual home
> pages.

The only individual home pages I ever visit are those of hackers.  I
generally find them quite easy to read.

> On professional sites, no one would ever dream of having the designer
> write content.

And it shows.

> So what you seem to be saying is that there are bad sites. There are also
> bad programs, bad books,...

There are very few books that are so badly designed as to make reading
difficult.  There are few web sites that are not so badly designed as to
make reading difficult.
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin

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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Any way to fake/spoof MAC address?
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 21:50:22 GMT

Bob Hauck writes:
> Have they sold 4 billion cards yet?  Even if they have,...

...the chance of two cards with the same number ending up on the same LAN
is less than the chance of a manufacturing screwup causing two cards to
have the same number.  A chance in a billion is simply below the noise
level.
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: HP-UX vs. Linux
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 00:23:54 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ben Chauss� wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Do you know what is best between HP-UX and Linux.  We want to create a
>web server, and we would like to know what is best does two one ????
[...]

Create "a web server" is a wee bit minimal amount of information, so
you might visit HP's site, as they do have an entry level machine to
offer now too.

I am just presuming low end requirements, as else you'd not have
mentioned Linux ;)

BTW ... HP does offer both for quite some machines, read HP-UX and
Linux, so you really should take other things into consideration too,
like "know how is available for which system", "which other software
needs to run and work on other machines", etc. etc. etc.

Forget about the costs for the OS and the hardware, as keeping things
up and running is what really counts and Apache does run on both
systems anyway.

Cheers,
Juergen

-- 
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Reply-To: "Mike Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Mike Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: tw.bbs.comp.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Redhat6.2 Network bug ??
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 19:42:28 -0500

CMOS Embedded

Anders Larsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> [snip]
> >
> > My 3com office connect 10/100 switch is auto-negotiable.
> > My Dlink 10/100 switch is a N-way negotiable.
> >
> > Both of them fail to pick up the packages when using tulip driver (my
> > netgears are also with real DEC chip).
> >
> > I will not do any futher test on the 6.2 anymore. Since I had sent this
> > problem to Redhat inc few days ago but they have not reply me yet.
> >
> > I will use 6.1 and upgrade the kernal instead of using 6.2 until they
> > solve the problem.
>
> Your problem is probably with the kernel, though, so you'll get it
again...
>
> Somewhere late in the 2.2.x cycle, the tulip driver forked because of
> problems with different versions of the tulip chip.
>
> Did you try both versions of the driver (CONFIG_DEC_ELCP and
> CONFIG_DEC_ELCP_OLD) ?
>
> --
> cheers
>   Anders Larsen
> e-mail: alarsen AT baumerident DOT com
>
> Q: What does the CE in Windows CE stand for?
> A: Caveat Emptor



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From: Kimo R. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: setting up newserver
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 00:30:05 GMT

Can someone help me setup a newserver or point me in the right direction. 
RedHat 6.1

Kimo R.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Convert HTML to CGI
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 00:30:09 GMT

I am making a website and I want to imbedded it into some cgi scripts to
make it more flexible but i don't want to recopy the code and convert it
line by line.

does anybody know ANY software that will do that on linux?
if not, i have a win98 machine in the house, its just much less convinient
but please tell me if you ahve a solution that uses win98

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From: Gerald Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows, Linux, and Gatway-  please advise
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 17:50:32 -0700

On Thu, 18 May 2000, BigDaddyJake wrote:

> I'd like to run Linux on my computer-  a desktop Celeron 333
> from Gateway 2000.  I've tried to install Caldera Open Linux 2.3
> several times without success.  It freezes during install every
> time.  I may be crazy, but I'm beginning to suspect that Gateway
> computers which are shipped with Windows have somehow been
> tweaked to prevent another OS from being installed.  What I'm
> looking for is an OS to run *instead* of Windows.  I want to
> remove windows from my pc altogether.  Any comments or opinions
> are greatly appreciated.

I would suspect that it's the graphical install and your video card that
causes the problem. At what point exactly does it freeze? You could try a
text based install. Just installed debian 2.2 the other day and you could
try that - simply download the floppies or order one of those cheaps CDs.
Other distros should also allow text based install, I presume. Linux
should run on your machine - little doubt about that - but getting X
running can be a bit tricky. So do text install and then get back to us if
you have problems with X.
                              Gerald
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Hahn)
Subject: Re: /opt verus /usr/local
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 01:03:02 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 18 May 2000 17:39:58 -0500, Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Harlan Grove wrote:
>> Red Hat puts KDE and Gnome in /usr
>> rather than either /opt or /usr/local.
>
>If it's packaged by the distributor of the whole system, it should go in
>/usr or somewhere similar.  /opt and /usr/local are for things that come
>from other sources.
>
One package that I will suggest to make this easier is the opt_depot
package.  You need to have perl installed.  Once setup, every software
package you install goes in its own separate directory.  I place all
of my add on software in the /opt/depot/ directory.

Once the package is installed, you would then run opt_depot and it
makes the links to your /usr/local/ directory.  This makes it easy to
delete packages, etc.  You also only need to have the /usr/local/bin
directory in your path.

There are several other programs that allow you to do the same thing.
The last time I looked at the opt_depot web page, it had links to
this software.

Try here for the software:

http://www.arlut.utexas.edu/csd/opt_depot

-- 
Frank Hahn

"Who cares if it doesn't do anything?  It was made with our new
Triple-Iso-Bifurcated-Krypton-Gate-MOS process ..."

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From: "Charles Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows, Linux, and Gatway-  please advise
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 01:04:17 GMT

BigDaddyJake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Greetings,
>
> I'd like to run Linux on my computer-  a desktop Celeron 333
> from Gateway 2000.  I've tried to install Caldera Open Linux 2.3
> several times without success.  It freezes during install every
> time.  I may be crazy, but I'm beginning to suspect that Gateway
> computers which are shipped with Windows have somehow been
> tweaked to prevent another OS from being installed.  What I'm
> looking for is an OS to run *instead* of Windows.  I want to
> remove windows from my pc altogether.  Any comments or opinions
> are greatly appreciated.

I can't speak to your particular model, but I've had no problem with
my Gateway G6-450 (Pent II) which is vintage late-1998.  I just
installed RedHat 6.2 and have never had a smoother Linux install.
(This is dual boot - Win 98 and Linux.)  My first Linux on this
system was RH 5.1, which was something of a pain because of the
large HDD, but it never locked up.

A lot will depend on your particular hardware configuration.  I don't
know about the Celeron.

Try posting a query on alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000



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From: Mark Bratcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why .bashrc not take effect?
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 21:01:01 -0400

Floyd Davidson wrote:
> 
> Mark Bratcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi there.
> >>
> >> I am using RedHat 6.1 Linux with kernel of 2.2.12.  My shell is bash,
> >> and I edit my ~/.bashrc as following:
> >>
> >> # .bashrc
> >> if [ -f /etc/bashrc ]; then
> >>         . /etc/bashrc
> >> fi
> >>
> >> alias l='ls -l'
> >>
> >> However, every time when I login, my .bashrc seems takes no effect at
> >> all.  The mod of .bashrc is 644, same as others.  As a result, I have to
> >
> >How is the shell specified in the /etc/passwd file? If it is specified
> >as /bin/sh, then the .bashrc will be skipped. If it is specified as
> >/bin/bash, then .bashrc should execute.
> 
> Not true.
> 
> Read the man page for bash, under the section titled
> "INVOCATION".  

Floyd,

Sorry, you're right. Misread it.

-- 
Mark Bratcher
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Escape from Microsoft's proprietary tentacles: use Linux!

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From: Mark Bratcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mounting drives
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 21:03:32 -0400

Al Warner wrote:
> 
> I recently installed Mandrake 6.0 and can not get the floppy or CDROM to
> mount using KDE icon mounting. I keep getting an error that states it has
> an unknown file system. The file sytem for mounting is set to auto. I have
> tried the others (msdos, exf2...) and they do not work either. Any ideas
> would be helpful.
> Thanks

You could try setting the file system type in /etc/fstab to 'auto' for
the floppy. That way, whether it's VFAT or EXT2 it should mount it
without complaining.

-- 
Mark Bratcher
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
=========================================================
Escape from Microsoft's proprietary tentacles: use Linux!

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