Linux-Misc Digest #528, Volume #24 Fri, 19 May 00 18:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux ("Anthony W. Youngman")
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux ("Anthony W. Youngman")
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (JEDIDIAH)
Re: Can't see MAN command output (Paul Kimoto)
Problem with kernel modules ("Tuomas Launiainen")
Re: less core puts BASH in command mode?? (Barton Milburn)
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (JEDIDIAH)
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (brian moore)
Re: Creating a boot disk (Michael Kelly)
Anyone find VMware kernel version hassles? (Michael Kelly)
Re: CRON fails to run job (David Efflandt)
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (Leslie Mikesell)
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (Leslie Mikesell)
Re: Creating a boot disk (Dances With Crows)
Re: Problems with Linux/UltraSPARC (Pete Zaitcev)
Re: WYSIWYG web page generator (Harry Thompson)
Corrupt ext2 file system (Jim Sundqvist)
Re: less core puts BASH in command mode?? (Dances With Crows)
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From: "Anthony W. Youngman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 20:20:25 +0100
Reply-To: "Anthony W. Youngman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, eyez
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>quoting <Leslie Mikesell>:
>>I haven't touched Debian since my first experience with dselect in
>>1996 or so. I'm sure it has improved since then but I couldn't
>>deal with their attitude about how much better dpkg/dselect was
>>(when it didn't even work on a lot of systems) compared to rpm.
>>I'd be very surprised if that attitude every goes away to a
>>point where they would share rpm tools with RedHat.
>
>From my experience with debian, dpkg/dselect/apt *IS* better than rpm.
>The biggest problem with rpm's on debian is that the dependency databases
>for rpm as compared to the dpkg/apt ones are completely incompatible.
Also, aiui, rpm is sadly broken compared to dpkg... If a package has a
"required" dependency registered with dpkg, you can be pretty sure that
trying to run the dependent package will fail if the required package
isn't installed. On the other hand it was a devil of a job to install
SuSE *without* installing OSS and ISDN4LINUX because rpm said these
packages were "required" - on a bare-bones system with no sound or isdn
card. And I gather it's rpm's fault, not SuSE - those packages may be
required, therefore they must be marked as required, therefore the
system tries to force you to install them :-(
>however, debian's distributions do currently contain the 'rpm' program as
>well as 'alien', so you can convert an rpm to a .deb... debian has strived
>to make the dpkg system work completely, in such a way that debian's
>children (stormlinux, corel, libranet, et cetera) are all fully compatible
>with debian. Any of these systems could be updated to debian with little
>effort through the apt-system, and That would work reversely. Also, apt
>could check each of the mirror sites for each of these distributions, and
>update packages from all of them just as effortlessly. (Don't argue with me, I
>had a concurrent debian-Woody/StormLinux-Rain system for a while). That's a
>level of consistency that RedHat with it's SuSE/Mandrake/Caldera spawns can't
>compete.
Just one point - SuSE is *NN*OO*TT* the spawn of RedHat (excuse my
screaming). SuSE the distro predates RedHat (iirc it's the spawn of
Slack or, more likely, Yggdrasil) and SuSE the company predates linux
itself (I think they were a minix distributor).
>
>I've had to install some rpm packages on my debian system before, and it's
>not hard to do, but it annoys me just the same that nobody ELSE supports
>any package format but rpm.
>
And as a result of SuSE predating RedHat, SuSE rpms are incompatible
with RedHat ones :-( I wish they'd switch to dpkg, but I bet there would
be incompatibilities with Debian there too - for the same reasons -
maintaining backwards compatibility breaks sidewards compatibility :-(
>>
>> Les Mikesell
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
--
Anthony W. Youngman - wol at thewolery dot demon dot co dot uk
Witches are curious by definition and inquisitive by nature. She moved in. "Let
me through. I'm a nosey person.", she said, employing both elbows.
Maskerade : (c) 1995 Terry Pratchett
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From: "Anthony W. Youngman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 20:08:14 +0100
Reply-To: "Anthony W. Youngman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, JEDIDIAH
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>On Thu, 18 May 2000 16:26:02 GMT, Doug Alcorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>Lathi gets out a clue stick.
>>
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH) writes:
>>
>>> On Thu, 18 May 2000 04:49:10 GMT, Mongoose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> >On Thu, 18 May 2000 01:00:45 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>> So what is the problem with doing this in the KDE desktop?
>>> >>
>>> >>KDE isn't free.
>>> >
>>> > uh what? I don't remember paying for KDE...
>>>
>>> It's base library is "owned" by a corporation.
>>>
>>> A good suggestion might be to replace libqt entirely with a
>>> completely liberated clone. However, it's dubious whether or
>>> not the KDE developers would actually take advantage of such
>>> a thing.
>>
>>First, the Qt library _is_ now free. Trolltech decided to license it
>
> It's 'kinda' free. It's still owned by Trolltech.
So what. By your definition linux isn't free - it's owned by Linus.
Likewise gcc isn't free - it's owned by the FSF.
>
> Should Trolltech get scooped up by alien, it will be free.
>
>[deletia]
>
> The ultimate proof is in the ports: So where are those Be and Mac
> versions?
>
> Contributors are, afterall, the whole point of a Free licence.
>
By your definition, if it's got a Free Licence, then it's not free. It's
only free if it's Public Domain (which means anyone can instantly take
it non-free).
--
Anthony W. Youngman - wol at thewolery dot demon dot co dot uk
Witches are curious by definition and inquisitive by nature. She moved in. "Let
me through. I'm a nosey person.", she said, employing both elbows.
Maskerade : (c) 1995 Terry Pratchett
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 20:43:05 GMT
On 19 May 2000 14:50:04 -0500, Leslie Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>brian moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[deletia]
>>See http://www.pathname.com/fhs/
>
>Odd that it is a compressed pdf. Does anyone have netscape and
>acrobat configured to read such a combination directly? Maybe
>I'll just wait for the next revision.
Sure... just set up one of the pdf readers as a Netscape helper app.
Still, I can't imagine what they think they need pdf for such that
HTML wouldn't be just as suitable.
--
In what language does 'open' mean 'execute the evil contents of' |||
a document? --Les Mikesell / | \
Need sane PPP docs? Try penguin.lvcm.com.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Can't see MAN command output
Date: 19 May 2000 16:49:52 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Treasury wrote:
> I have just upgraded my RH Linux 6.1 to 6.2, and all seems to have
> worked well except for one point:
>
> When I do a "man <something>" command, I get just a blank screen with a
> highlighted "END" at the bottom. Apart from this, terminal mode seems
> to work OK.
>
> This happens whether I am in terminal mode per se, or running a terminal
> under X.
Doesn't this happen if one of the programs that man(1) runs--e.g.,
groff(1)--is failing (or is absent)? You can _probably_ read the man(1)
man page by running
$ nroff -man /usr/share/man/man1/man.1 | less -s
(the location may vary) to see how to ask man(1) which programs it is
running.
(There are at least two man programs in general use on Linux, and I don't
know which one Red Hat uses.)
--
Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: "Tuomas Launiainen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problem with kernel modules
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 23:50:34 +0300
After compiling the kernel (2.2.14 on a RH6.2) as follows:
make xconfig, make dep, make clean, make bzImage, make modules, make
modules_install, make install
depmod -a prints out error messages such as these:
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/misc/emu10k1.o
I had removed /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0 (previous modules) before compiling.
depmod -ea gives information like this:
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/misc/emu10k1.o
depmod: remap_page_range
depmod: __wake_up
depmod: kmalloc
depmod: best_memcpy
etc...
The complete list of the unresolved symbols follows:
best_memcpy
best_memset
remap_page_range
__wake_up
kmalloc
boot_cpu_data
interruptible_sleep_on
__pollwait
kfree
__verify_write
best_copy_to_user
best_copy_from_user
mem_map
printk
What is this stuff? Any ideas what to poke to correct this?
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From: Barton Milburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: less core puts BASH in command mode??
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 16:53:01 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
John
Maybe you should try "od"
The command "od -c <filenme>" should do whant you want.
>
> I'm used to looking at files in dos, .EXE whatever, just to get an idea of
> what they are before I run them. So when I try the same thing in linux I find
* *
* *
* *
> Q2: Isn't this a little scary? would it be possible to execute $rm by merely
> 'cat'ing a file? virus-like?
>
> Just wondering
> -John
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 20:59:54 GMT
On Fri, 19 May 2000 20:08:14 +0100, Anthony W. Youngman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, JEDIDIAH
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>>On Thu, 18 May 2000 16:26:02 GMT, Doug Alcorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>Lathi gets out a clue stick.
>>>
>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH) writes:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 18 May 2000 04:49:10 GMT, Mongoose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> >On Thu, 18 May 2000 01:00:45 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >>> So what is the problem with doing this in the KDE desktop?
>>>> >>
>>>> >>KDE isn't free.
>>>> >
>>>> > uh what? I don't remember paying for KDE...
>>>>
>>>> It's base library is "owned" by a corporation.
>>>>
>>>> A good suggestion might be to replace libqt entirely with a
>>>> completely liberated clone. However, it's dubious whether or
>>>> not the KDE developers would actually take advantage of such
>>>> a thing.
>>>
>>>First, the Qt library _is_ now free. Trolltech decided to license it
>>
>> It's 'kinda' free. It's still owned by Trolltech.
>
>So what. By your definition linux isn't free - it's owned by Linus.
>Likewise gcc isn't free - it's owned by the FSF.
Sort of relicencing it to someone else, neither Linus nor
the FSF have any ownership right over the code that I do
not. I can fork either's work to my hearts desire.
>>
>> Should Trolltech get scooped up by alien, it will be free.
>>
>>[deletia]
>>
>> The ultimate proof is in the ports: So where are those Be and Mac
>> versions?
>>
>> Contributors are, afterall, the whole point of a Free licence.
>>
>By your definition, if it's got a Free Licence, then it's not free. It's
>only free if it's Public Domain (which means anyone can instantly take
>it non-free).
Actually, by my 'right to fork' definition a wide variety of
licences are Free including the X licence, the perl artistic
licence, the BSDL and the L/GPLs.
Also, there's a real issue of perception. A free licence is a
bit of PR as much as anything else. Regardless of the legal
language you think you've crafted, you still have to convince
contributors that it's worth their while.
That's why the GPL was created to begin with.
--
In what language does 'open' mean 'execute the evil contents of' |||
a document? --Les Mikesell / | \
Need sane PPP docs? Try penguin.lvcm.com.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Date: 19 May 2000 21:03:21 GMT
On Fri, 19 May 2000 20:08:14 +0100,
Anthony W. Youngman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, JEDIDIAH
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
> >
> > It's 'kinda' free. It's still owned by Trolltech.
>
> So what. By your definition linux isn't free - it's owned by Linus.
> Likewise gcc isn't free - it's owned by the FSF.
No, you are free to take a kernel tarball, say "bite me linus, I want
the foo feature!" and fork the code. Whether any one would care about
your fork is a different matter.
Likewise, you're free to take the gcc tarball and say "damn, the FSF is
too slow on updating this for modern CPU's, I'll add better optimizing
code and generally enhance it." (And, pretty much the above happened
with egcs when Cygnus got tired of waiting for FSF updates.)
You can NOT do that with Qt. You can supply patchfiles against their
version, but you're not allowed to distribute your new-and-improved
version standalone.
> > Contributors are, afterall, the whole point of a Free licence.
> >
> By your definition, if it's got a Free Licence, then it's not free. It's
> only free if it's Public Domain (which means anyone can instantly take
> it non-free).
No, you haven't read the "Q Public License".
The QPL requires software be free (as in free beer). It also requires
you to submit any software you link with QT to them, even if it is not
distributed and from the wording it seems that they want you to give
them unlimited rights to even your own personal (again, non
distributed) programs that you link to Qt.
In other words, if you do work-for-hire and write an application for
someone, not only do you have to provide them with the source (which is
fair), that would be in violation of the Qt license (ie, your program
wouldn't be zero cost). If you did it for free as a favor for a
friend, you'd still be obliged to surrender your code to Trolltech and
let them redistribute it to others.
--
Brian Moore | Of course vi is God's editor.
Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | If He used Emacs, He'd still be waiting
Usenet Vandal | for it to load on the seventh day.
Netscum, Bane of Elves.
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From: Michael Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Creating a boot disk
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 17:11:13 -0400
Reply-To: Michael Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Fri, 19 May 2000 13:12:56 -0700, sumengen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>How can I create a second boot-disk with same configuration?
Try using rawrite.exe instead of diskcopy in Windows.
It should be on the dist. disk someplace. It's a Dos
program so just copy it to your hd and run it in a
Dos box in Windows.
Mike
--
"I don't want to belong to any club that would have me as a member."
-- Groucho Marx
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From: Michael Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Anyone find VMware kernel version hassles?
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 17:07:41 -0400
Reply-To: Michael Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I downloaded the VMware to try it out and when I try to
configure it tells me none of the prebuilt modules will work
with my kernel. When I tell it to try to build those that will,
it tells me the headers in the kernel source tree don't match
the running kernel. Huh?
Anyone having kernel version hassles with VMware?
It's not likely I'll have $300 to throw away in the near
future but I was curious to try it out.
Mike
--
"I don't want to belong to any club that would have me as a member."
-- Groucho Marx
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: CRON fails to run job
Date: 19 May 2000 21:30:01 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 19 May 2000 18:30:12 GMT, Jay Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have created a script to download virus definition updates nightly. The
>script runs fine using at or if I simply type
>in /Data/VirusUpdate/update. However, if the job is scheduled with
>crontab, I get no output into my mail and the job does not appear to run.
>From the shell try:
cd /
/Data/VirusUpdate/update
Does this work? Do you know what working directory cron uses? You
probably need to cd to a directory that has write permission for this
user, BEFORE running ftp.
>Following is the script
>
>ftp -in ftp.nai.com << SCRIPT
> user anonymous XXXXXXXXXX
> cd /pub/antivirus/datfiles/4.x
> lcd XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
> mget *.upd
> mget *.zip
> mget *.INI
> bye
>SCRIPT
>
>My crontab entry is as follows
>
>04 13 * * * /Data/VirusUpdate/update
>
>Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in adavnce.
>
>Jay
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Date: 19 May 2000 16:22:04 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
brian moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>You are free to add your own, of course. The above are merely virtual
>packages that include others. For example, task-dns-server:
Hmmm, a packager that understands recursion would be nice.
>As for your list specifically: KDE is not in Debian as it is not
>compatible with the GPL.
So clearly it would not suffice to be limited to Debian pacakges.
>What do you mean by 'server'? Web? Mail?
>Usenet? DNS? SMB? 'server' is mighty generic.
All of the above plus FTP. But that was just the start of the
hundred ways to build a system. For an inside-the-firewall
system it doesn't hurt to have a few extra services. You'd
also want a choice for external mail relay, external ftp
server, etc. with not much else running.
>On the reverse side, there is no "task-web-server" for the simple reason
>that -you- get to choose which web server you want. Do you want Apache?
>Or Roxen? Or CERN perhaps? Or Apache-ssl? How about modules? Do you
>want mod_perl or is it not worth the overhead because your pages are all
>static?
If you know what you want, there never has been a problem in
putting the pieces together. We need something for people
who don't know about all the possibilities - that is, a
way to re-use the work of someone who has built a working
system.
>Some things are best left to humans to decide or there would be no
>choice at all, which is counter to the freedom granted by the FSF,
>Linus, the Apache Group and all the others contributing to the library.
I don't think you understand. I don't want to limit anyone's choice,
just allow them to make all their choices at once by selecting
a copy of something already assembled and tested. I want a tool
that, after you put together your concept of the perfect machine,
would upload a packaging description that would allow anyone
else to duplicate that exact software selection so they only
have to deal with the specific local configuration (IP address,
users, etc.). This would be sort of like going to a car dealer
and picking out something you like, rather than the current
scheme of going to the factory and gathering up a set of parts
to assemble. But, the package system system should be able
to track updates and additions and merge them so that as the
expert maintains his master system and finds new additions that
help with its particular focus all of the people using the
package get the same improvement. The idea would be that anyone
who feels like he has built a system worth sharing could do
it without much additional effort so there would be a lot of
choices already tuned for the usual tasks.
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Date: 19 May 2000 16:28:24 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
JEDIDIAH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>See http://www.pathname.com/fhs/
>>
>>Odd that it is a compressed pdf. Does anyone have netscape and
>>acrobat configured to read such a combination directly? Maybe
>>I'll just wait for the next revision.
>
> Sure... just set up one of the pdf readers as a Netscape helper app.
I have that - out of the box RH has that working with acrobat. But
it is not a .pdf, it is a pdf.gz.
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Creating a boot disk
Date: 19 May 2000 17:37:16 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 19 May 2000 13:12:56 -0700, sumengen
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>Hello,
>I installed mandrake 7.0 on a harddisk with win98. I didn't want
>to use LILO
>from HD so I created a boot-disk with LILO on it. If I want to
This is NOT the optimal way to do things. It's not that hard to make a
working LILO setup that boots Linux from HD without "messing up" your MBR.
>linux, I start the computer with the bootdisk. Otherwise the
>My question is:
>- I am worried about what happens if the bootdisk dies. I tried
>to copy it
>to another disk or to the hard drive, but I wasn't able to.
Insert bootdisk
dd if=/dev/fd0 of=diskimage
Remove bootdisk
Insert new floppy disk
dd if=diskimage of=/dev/fd0
...lather, rinse, repeat. This is the best way of making exact copies of
floppies.
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| You have me mixed up with more
There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| creative ways of being stupid?
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| Beer is a vegetable. WinNT
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| is the study of cool. --MegaHAL
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pete Zaitcev)
Subject: Re: Problems with Linux/UltraSPARC
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 21:44:50 GMT
> {standard input}: Assembler messages:
> {standard input}:805: Error: Architecture mismatch on "b,pt %xcc,1f".
> {standard input}:805: (Requires v9|v9a; requested architecture is sparclite.)
> Ok, let's try some "as" options e.g that "-Av9" but obviously, I put it in
> the wrong place.
Check how Jakub determines gcc or egcs in the arch/sparc64/Makefile.
There you may comment that out, and pin down gcc parameters with
right values.
--Pete
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From: Harry Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: WYSIWYG web page generator
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 16:42:58 -0500
Stupid Question, but doesn't CoffeeCup Editor work? Creates php pages?
Harry Thompson
===========
Rick wrote:
> Are there any WYSIWYG web page generators for Linux/LinuxPPC? It would
> need to be able to generate frames, input forms and secure pages.
>
> Any and all he;p appreciated.
> --
> Rick
> To reply by email remove the obvious from my address.
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From: Jim Sundqvist <"Jim . Sundqvist "@ operax . nospam . com>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Corrupt ext2 file system
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 21:47:12 GMT
Hi,
for some reason my file system has become corrupt. I was using it as a
regular user, i.e. not as root, when the file system started to give me
I/O errors. After rebooting the computer I cannot use the partition that
went corrupt since the are some problems when reading the ext2fs
information. The partition was quite large, 15 Gb which become default
size when I installed Mandrake 7.0 on a newly bought HDD. I do not think
that the partition size or the new HDD could cause any problems. The
other partitions has not been corrupted but works as usual.
Anyone that can give me some ideas how to recreate the data from the
corrupted partition? I have tried e2fsck with a few options and ext2ed
but ext2ed could not handle 15 Gb HDDs. debugfs does not work since the
file system is corrupt. (or I cannot manage it)
The following is what I get when running `dumpe2fs /dev/hda7` which is
the corrupted drive.
dumpe2fs 1.18, 11-Nov-1999 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09
ext2fs_read_bb_inode: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in
short read
Filesystem volume name: <none>
Last mounted on: <not available>
Filesystem UUID: 7b42e85c-0a68-11d4-90a5-9cd3fbd61cf8
Filesystem magic number: 0xEF53
Filesystem revision #: 1 (dynamic)
Filesystem features: filetype sparse_super
Filesystem state: clean with errors
Errors behavior: Continue
Filesystem OS type: Linux
Inode count: 1860480
Block count: 3715023
Reserved block count: 185751
Free blocks: 408945
Free inodes: 1824920
First block: 0
Block size: 4096
Fragment size: 4096
Blocks per group: 32768
Fragments per group: 32768
Inodes per group: 16320
Inode blocks per group: 510
Last mount time: Tue May 16 22:45:58 2000
Last write time: Thu May 18 21:37:52 2000
Mount count: 11
Maximum mount count: 20
Last checked: Sat Apr 15 12:17:56 2000
Check interval: 15552000 (6 months)
Next check after: Thu Oct 12 12:17:56 2000
Reserved blocks uid: 0 (user root)
Reserved blocks gid: 0 (group root)
First inode: 11
Inode size: 128
Thanks,
Jim
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: less core puts BASH in command mode??
Date: 19 May 2000 17:48:21 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 19 May 2000 15:16:40 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<<8g43uo$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
> I'm used to looking at files in dos, .EXE whatever, just to get an idea of
>what they are before I run them. So when I try the same thing in linux I find
>that oftentimes bash is put into a command mode:
>
>cat bmp.bmp (as you might guess a windows .bmp file) lots of junk then
Don't do that.
>and so on... I'm using fvwm2 and rxvt or xterms. less gives similiar results
??? Which version of less are you using? For me, less checks the file
before displaying anything, then asks "foo.bmp appears to be a binary
file. See it anyway?" and if you do say "y", the contents of the file
are massaged somewhat. ASCII 27 (ESC) is displayed as "ESC" in inverse
video, for example, not printed as ASCII 27 directly to stdout. SImilar
things are done for all characters outside the printable region.
less --version returns 304 for me. If it's less than that for you, it may
be time to upgrade. od may be OK, but less is usually more comfortable
for looking at things....
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| You have me mixed up with more
There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| creative ways of being stupid?
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| Beer is a vegetable. WinNT
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| is the study of cool. --MegaHAL
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