Linux-Misc Digest #539, Volume #24 Sun, 21 May 00 00:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Maximum Linux (Garry Knight)
Re: Problem with root password (Greg White)
Re: Netscape spell checker in 472 (John Scudder)
Netscape 4.73 performance (John Scudder)
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (David Steuber)
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (JEDIDIAH)
Install tips? (Jerry McBride)
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (JEDIDIAH)
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (Leslie Mikesell)
Re: Is OpenGL hardware accelerated? (JEDIDIAH)
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (JEDIDIAH)
Re: bc calculator (Hal Burgiss)
Re: Netscape 4.73 performance (Streamer)
Re: Opinions: An Adequate Starter System? ("Philo")
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (Leslie Mikesell)
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (Leslie Mikesell)
Re: bc calculator (Prasanth Kumar)
Re: XFree86-4.0 rpm installation (praedor)
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (David Steuber)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Garry Knight)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Maximum Linux
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 03:35:21 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>In article <8g3al8$j826$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mike Griffiths <michael.gri
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>>Garry Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>> Does anybody know of a retail outlet in or near London that sells the US
>>> magazine Maximum Linux?
>>
>>most big newsagents can get US magazines if you place a regular order with
>>them
>You can have my copy of the magazine May/June but I don't have hte
>2 discs anymore
DanH already offered me his copy, but it would involve e-mailing my home
address, which I'm not prepared to do. But thanks for the offer, Steve.
I'll check out Borders next time I'm up that way.
--
Garry Knight
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From: Greg White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: Problem with root password
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 02:46:22 GMT
Julien Reynier de Montlaux wrote:
>
> If you use LILO, there is a simple solution.
> Restart your computer and at the prompt LILO : just type
> linux single
> this will start Linux by using runlevel 1 (single user) so you don't have to
> type any password and you will be root on the computer.
This does not apply to all distributions of Linux. Since the OP did not
specify which distribution he is using, the other advice may be more
correct. (F'rinstance, there is no way of accessing standard runlevel 1
in Slackware without the root password).
One can, however, pass some neat options to the LILO prompt like:
root=/dev/hdax initrd= ro init=/bin/bash
(from memory, guaranteed to be the right idea, but not necessarily
syntactically correct).
and then change the password with `passwd`.
GW
Followups set to comp.os.linux.security to avoid further crossposts.
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From: John Scudder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape spell checker in 472
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 22:50:25 -0500
David,
I have a spell checker in 4.72. It shows up only in Compose mode.
You won't see it when reading mail.
John
> Hi,
> On Netscape with NT, 98 & etc. I have a spell checker. I
> thought I had on for Netscape on Linux but its not there. I do
> not mail much from Linux so possibly I had the spell checker
> before in 4.6 and the spell checker was not in the upgrade to
> 4.72. Composer does have the spell checker but I'm looking for
> the integration like in Netscape on NT. Is there a way to make
> Netscape have the spell checker integrated in to Messenger like
> on NT?
> David Kirkpatrick
>
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: John Scudder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Netscape 4.73 performance
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 22:55:49 -0500
Is it my imagination or is the latest Netscape version 4.73 slower in
accessing sites than 4.72? My favorite site, freshmeat.net, takes
forever to come up. I don't remember it being this slow before.
John
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Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 03:00:00 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
' > Of course it is hardware accelerated.
'
' No. It isn't.
'
' It may have the potential to be accelerated at some point in the
' future, but, as of this writing, it is not. NVIDIA has flatly stated
' that they will not be doing hardware-accelerated OpenGL until XF86
' 4.0. As XF86 4.0 is not the official XF86 at this point, there is
' not, officially, any hardware-accelerated OpenGL at this point.
This is a function of your video hardware as well as the drivers and
what systems the drivers are available for. The GLINT chips that are
on many video cards are hardware accelerators for OpenGL. I'm sure
SGI boxes have hardware accelerated OpenGL.
OpenGL has, what, ten primatives? It _was_ designed for hardware
acceleration.
' It seems to me that if they were more interested in wrapping hardware
' acceleration, OpenGL would look more like Direct3D (which is
' considerably more minimalist).
Direct3D is a rip off of OpenGL soley for the purpose of tying people
into the Microsoft architecture. It is a direct result of The
Microsoft Method (do a deja search on that).
--
David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member | a hoploholic.
All bits are significant. Some bits are more significant than others.
-- Charles Babbage Orwell
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
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Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 03:00:51 GMT
On Sat, 20 May 2000 22:59:29 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH) writes:
>
>[is OpenGL hardware-accelerated?]
SGI's has been hardware-accelerated for longer than Direct3D has
existed. Mesa has been hardware-accelerated for a couple years now.
XiG's GL implementation just became hardware-accelerated and the new
SGI workstations with the Nvidia Quadros will be hardware-accelerated
under OpenGL under Linux.
>
>> >No. It isn't.
>
>> >It may have the potential to be accelerated at some point in the
>> >future, but, as of this writing, it is not. NVIDIA has flatly stated
>> >that they will not be doing hardware-accelerated OpenGL until XF86
>> >4.0. As XF86 4.0 is not the official XF86 at this point, there is
>
>> Says who? There's already at least one distro that's shipping it.
>
>Sorry. I was operating under outdated information.
>
>You're right; it is the official XF86. (I must've checked its status
>the day before it was released...)
>
>> >> > A killer app is something that most computer users will find
>> >> > useful.
>
>> >> Of course Apache is a killer app.
>
>> >Of course it is not.
>
>> Netcraft and the hype in general about the Web would tend
>> to flatly contradict you.
>
>I really don't see what's so hard to understand here.
>
>Here are some requirements for a killer app:
>
>1. Lots of people have to use it.
60% marketshare of the server part of THE current
killer microcomputer app.
>2. Lots of people have to know about it.
>
>Obviously, then, to be a potential killer app, a program must appeal
>to lots of people.
>
>Does Apache appeal to lots of people?
With a 60%, I would imagine it does.
>
>No. I'm sorry, but this is bloody obvious, and I really don't
>understand how anyone can argue with it. The vast - *VAST* - majority
No, your obstinance is not 'bloody obvious'.
>of computer users have not installed Apache, and never *will* install
>Apache, no matter that it's the best thing since sliced bread.
True, however the VAST MAJORITY of computer users USE
Apache on a daily basis.
[deletia]
Your position is just as aburd as claiming that OSS 'hasn't
delivered' while ignoring sendmail, bind and BSD sockets.
--
In what language does 'open' mean 'execute the evil contents of' |||
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jerry McBride)
Subject: Install tips?
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 22:14:09 -0400
Here's the skinny...
I'm trying to install Caldera's Open Linux 2.40 on an old machine with a
aha1522b scsi controller and a Toshiba scsi cdrom...
Here's the tip I need. I'm trying like the devil to get LIZARD to recognize the
scsi card during boot up. Sofar I've tried aha152x=0x140,11,7,1 and scd0=cdrom
and LIZARD turns a deaf ear each and everytime. On the console that shows the
modules being tested... aha152x.o never gets tried!
Also tried at the boot prompt er=modules, etc... no joy...
On this VERY SAME machine, LISA will install col 2.40 flawlessly...
Yeah... LISA works, but the fact I can't use LIZARD on this one machine has
me stumped. Sofar, LIZARD has worked on everyother mix of hardware but this
one...
Any tips?
--
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Let them that have eyes see
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* NetRexx - The onramp to the Internet - http://www2.hursley.ibm.com/netrexx *
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 03:01:17 GMT
On 20 May 2000 18:07:12 -0500, Leslie Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>JEDIDIAH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>On Sat, 20 May 2000 05:00:02 GMT, David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore) writes:
>>>
>>>' The QPL requires software be free (as in free beer). It also requires
>>>' you to submit any software you link with QT to them, even if it is not
>>>' distributed and from the wording it seems that they want you to give
>>>' them unlimited rights to even your own personal (again, non
>>>' distributed) programs that you link to Qt.
>>>
>>>It requires your software to be GPL, if you use the Qt Free Edition.
>>>Naturally, if you don't like that, don't use Qt.
>>
>> This alone makes the QPL more restrictive than the LGPL.
>
>Of course. GPL advocates were the ones who pushed for this
>change and they don't like the LGPL much.
Bullshit.
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In what language does 'open' mean 'execute the evil contents of' |||
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
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Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Date: 20 May 2000 22:06:47 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
JEDIDIAH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>You need them IF you have installed a modern distribution that
>>already includes the thing you are updating, and you want
>
> Who said anything about 'updating'. I'm talking about the
> 'new' stuff I compile. I typically don't bother with source
> for more stable projects.
I just haven't run into much 'new stuff' for a while that
wasn't available as an rpm, with updates also likely.
>>You do avoid it if you wait till someone else does it and
>>then just install the packaged version. If you have some
>
> Is this supposed to be describing binary packages or
> makefiles, as I've always thought of reasonably
> complete source packages as serving this purpose.
Things packaged as rpms are nearly always available as source
rpms as well (the rpm tool packages the source as well as the
binary). If the binary doesn't work because of library conflicts
you can often get a working copy by rebuilding the source
rpm - or if you need a local patch you can add it.
>>reason to need a fix the day a patch is out or need some
>>local changes until the next release, you need the futzing
>>but with the rpm scheme even most of the futzing is automated.
>
> Where I've found rpm most useful are those projects that
> seem to be made of a million or so parts and doing a
> 'build World' is a manual process.
That too, but in almost every case there is going to be a new,
improved version out within 6 months or less - maybe tomorrow.
If you use the 'packaged' version, a simple update command is
the most it takes to keep up.
Les Mikesell
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
Subject: Re: Is OpenGL hardware accelerated?
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 03:14:43 GMT
On Sat, 20 May 2000 23:10:55 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Followup-To obeyed, but I don't read colm. Email me a copy if you
>want me to read it.
>
>Andreas Rottmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>[is OpenGL hardware-accelerated?]
>
>> What about Mesa-Glide?
>
>Two points.
>
>First, I know nothing about Mesa-Glide, as I don't have one of the
Then why are commenting on this subject at all?
Mesa is just another implementation of GL, uncertifiable
primarily for financial reasons. Also, Glide isn't the
only back end for Mesa these days.
>Technologically Inferior Proprietary API From Hell That Nobody
>In Their Right Mind Would Use cards.
So, Carmack is not in his right mind?
That's the height of arrogance. What lead programmer
credits do you have under your belt?
[deletia]
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In what language does 'open' mean 'execute the evil contents of' |||
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 03:16:15 GMT
On 20 May 2000 22:06:47 -0500, Leslie Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>JEDIDIAH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[deletia]
>>
>> Where I've found rpm most useful are those projects that
>> seem to be made of a million or so parts and doing a
>> 'build World' is a manual process.
>
>That too, but in almost every case there is going to be a new,
>improved version out within 6 months or less - maybe tomorrow.
>If you use the 'packaged' version, a simple update command is
>the most it takes to keep up.
...as would be 'make World' if there were a complete package.
--
In what language does 'open' mean 'execute the evil contents of' |||
a document? --Les Mikesell / | \
Need sane PPP docs? Try penguin.lvcm.com.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Subject: Re: bc calculator
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 03:17:43 GMT
On Sat, 20 May 2000 21:43:58 -0400, lindoze 2000
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>why does bc calculator give
>10 / 3 = 3 ??
>why not :
>10 / 3 = 3.33333 ?
[hal@feenix hal]$ echo "scale=5 ; 10/3" | bc
3.33333
--
Hal B
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From: Streamer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape 4.73 performance
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 22:25:20 -0500
John Scudder wrote:
> Is it my imagination or is the latest Netscape version 4.73 slower in
> accessing sites than 4.72?
I haven't found that to be the case.
> My favorite site, freshmeat.net, takes
> forever to come up. I don't remember it being this slow before.
freshmeat.net is in the process of switching to a new server. I noticed
that I couldn't access it at all yesterday. It seems to be back up
today, however.
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From: "Philo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Opinions: An Adequate Starter System?
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 22:20:22 -0500
I was using Red Hat 6 on a Pentium 75mhz with 40 meg ram and had
satisfactory results. I later switched to Mandrake 7 and put an overdrive
pentium 150mhz and upgraded ram to 96 megs and the system workes even
better, so you should have no problem.
Tried Red Hat and Storm but think Mandrake is really the best. I really
would recommend Mandrake and would advise you to install the whole darn
package (no matter what distro you use)
It is a bit hard to tell in advance exactly which packages you will need and
which you won't.
It was very frustrating when I initally did a minimal install and a lot of
the packages didn't work. I really hated Linux at first... but as I
installed more and more of it, I kept getting better results.
I finally got a 10 gig drive for a price so low it was impossible to pass up
and installed about 1.1 gigs of Mandrake 7 and was quite pleased.
However I still use Windows most of the time because USB is not quite ready
yet with Linux and unfortunately my printer is not supported.
Finally ... if I could figure out how to use Mandrake anyone can.
I had virtually never touched a computer until July of last year and I bet I
already know 1% of all their is to know about computers (possibly even TWICE
as much)
Philo
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> I have the opportunity of picking up a mini-tower Pentium 133 machine
> (Intel VX motherboard) with a 250W PS, 3 gig IDE HD, 4 Meg Matrox
> video card, generic sound card, 64 megs 60ns RAM, 56k Winmodem, which
> will be 86'd in favor of an external real 56K modem; 12x CD-ROM
> (bootable), and a 1.44 floppy. It has Windows98 currently installed,
> which will be wiped completely before installing Linux.
>
> I intend to use it as a single user setup, initially, but not as my
> main machine; and later to use it to more fully learn Linux and the
> ins-and-outs of Network Administration. Is it good enough for my
> intentions, and fast enough for running X and graphic interface apps,
> but no games; well, chess, maybe? The Linux hardware sight seems to
> indicate that all the parts are supported, as near as I can tell.
>
> Also, any suggestions on the best Linux distribution for the neophyte?
> That is, no brains required installation, works well enough the first
> time, tweeking and fiddling can wait until later. I am considering
> Debian, but the Stormix distro seems better, install and setup-wise.
> And Corel seems to be setup more as an alternative for the Windows9x
> user looking for something better. It's also based on the Debian
> distro, isn't it?
>
> I've heard good things about Caldera, too. Red Hat, Slackware, and
> Mandrake, I've been advised, are more for experts.
>
> Any feedback will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
>
>
> --
> Patrick Bartek
> NoLife Polymath Group
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Date: 20 May 2000 22:21:44 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
JEDIDIAH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>It requires your software to be GPL, if you use the Qt Free Edition.
>>>>Naturally, if you don't like that, don't use Qt.
>>>
>>> This alone makes the QPL more restrictive than the LGPL.
>>
>>Of course. GPL advocates were the ones who pushed for this
>>change and they don't like the LGPL much.
>
> Bullshit.
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/why-not-lgpl.html
Les Mikesell
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
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comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Date: 20 May 2000 22:28:37 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
JEDIDIAH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Where I've found rpm most useful are those projects that
>>> seem to be made of a million or so parts and doing a
>>> 'build World' is a manual process.
>>
>>That too, but in almost every case there is going to be a new,
>>improved version out within 6 months or less - maybe tomorrow.
>>If you use the 'packaged' version, a simple update command is
>>the most it takes to keep up.
>
> ...as would be 'make World' if there were a complete package.
After getting the source, configuring, etc. If the project is
worth running there is a pretty good chance that it will be
added to the next RedHat base or powertools CD making the update
just a matter of course and no longer even a special case.
Les Mikesell
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From: Prasanth Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: bc calculator
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 03:31:24 GMT
lindoze 2000 wrote:
>
> why does bc calculator give
> 10 / 3 = 3 ??
> why not :
> 10 / 3 = 3.33333 ?
<snip>
Yes, that is one of my personal annoyances about
the bc calculator. It assumes by default 0 digits
after the decimal. If you want otherwise, type
"scale=5" to get five digits. To automate this,
put this in you bash profile script:
export BC_ENV_ARGS=~/.bcrc
Then in the file ~/.bcrc, put "scale=5" or any other
commands you want run automatically.
--
Prasanth Kumar
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From: praedor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: XFree86-4.0 rpm installation
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 21:50:24 -0600
On Wed, 17 May 2000, Silviu D Minut wrote:
> Thanks!
> My question wasn't an rpm question though. I know about --nodeps. I was
> wondering what would happen if I did break the dependencies. Did anyone try
> to run util-linux with ncurses-5? Would that ruin the whole system?
>
>
> "Sam E. Trenholme" wrote:
>
> > >I'm running RedHat6.0 (but now it is close to 6.2 probably, due to
> > >continuous upgrades that I make). Oh, did I mention it's all about rpms?
...
Two problems:
First,
I have just tried installing XFree86-4.0 but have a problem with a
dependency for a file/script/binary called "install-menu".
Where does install-menu come from? Doing an rpmfind --apropos
for install-menu turns up bupkis, as did a search for any rpm
called install-menu.
Not only that, this file is listed among the Requires list at
rufus but selecting that name doesn't link you to an rpm.
Where oh where does install-menu come from?
Second,
Having installed XFree86-4.0 anyway and then running
xf86config and saving, trying to startx fails with
a message about an inability to lock .Xauthority and
another that states:
execve failed for /etc/X11/X (errno 2)
Wha? Huh? Checking the directory I see that the symlink
X is broken. What, with XFree86 4.0, is X supposed to be
symlinked to?
praedor
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Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 03:59:59 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell) writes:
' In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
' David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
' >
' >' And as a result of SuSE predating RedHat, SuSE rpms are incompatible
' >' with RedHat ones :-( I wish they'd switch to dpkg, but I bet there would
' >' be incompatibilities with Debian there too - for the same reasons -
' >' maintaining backwards compatibility breaks sidewards compatibility :-(
' >
' >It is the RPM BS that has caused me to abandon that format whenever
' >possible. Instead, I prefere to install software from source.
' >Packages that conform to the ./configure, make, make install mantra
' >are easy to build and put where you want them.
'
' You left out the dozen obligatory arguments to ./configure that
' are different for every package to make it interoperate with
' the rest of your setup. Even then it is impossible to use
' this method alone to set things up so the next update from
' the stock distribution (that by now has the fixes you added plus
' more) will correctly replace your intermediate fix.
Most of the time, I've not passed _any_ arguments to configure. I did
for Qt and for KDE. However, those were not specific to my distro
(SuSE 6.2) which I have been hacking away from its original
configuration. It is also not a big deal to specify --prefix.
I am no longer interested in distribution specific sources anyway. I
am trying to move away from that. One of the reasons I have been
learning Linux is so that I am in charge of my system configuration.
Granted, when I first started out, SuSE was great. It allowed me to
set up my system without knowing much of anything. I still think SuSE
or some other good package is the way to go for a beginner. However,
I have started to outgrow it. And the natural distribution medium for
Un*x is source. This doesn't stop the packagers like SuSE or RedHat
from patching and compiling the source for their own taste. But it
does allow you to become independent of the packager you originally
choose if you decide to strike out on your own. You also don't have
to make the steep climb that diylinux would require from you.
While my system is still mostly SuSE, it is no longer pure SuSE. I've
already diverged in some non trivial ways. OTOH, SuSE 6.4 does now
provide some of the things I already have on my system, ie GCC 2.95.2,
libc 2.0.7, etc. I'm evolving towards a generic GNU/Linux.
--
David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member | a hoploholic.
All bits are significant. Some bits are more significant than others.
-- Charles Babbage Orwell
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