Linux-Misc Digest #553, Volume #24 Sun, 21 May 00 22:13:05 EDT
Contents:
Re: Compiling from source... Which compiler do I need? (Robert Heller)
video capture and audio out put (Dutch)
Re: Netscape Newsgroups ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Windows 2000 Address Book to Netscape ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux ("Jack Kessler")
Re: Web mail, recommendations for unix ? (Ernie Miller)
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (David T. Blake)
Linux User Group in North Kent, England (Ian Wilkinson)
Re: sendmail question ("Ryan Faricy")
Re: No sound for Sound Blaster Live (Jeremy)
Re: Compiling from source... Which compiler do I need? (David Bell)
Maximum number of files that can be opened in linux ("Jupiter")
IBM Netvista (jhecker)
hangs (for a while) for "eth0" ("Simon Huang")
Re: IBM Netvista (Stewart Honsberger)
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Compiling from source... Which compiler do I need?
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 23:09:37 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Bell),
In a message on 21 May 2000 22:16:24 GMT, wrote :
DB> >That's probably not relevant. Either compiler should be able to
DB> >compile the trivial executable that configure scripts use.
DB> >
DB> >What does the end of config.log contain? My guess is that you're
DB> >missing the development version of libc. In Debian the package is
DB> >called libc6-dev. That's the package that contains the standard
DB> >header files that virtually all C programs will require.
DB> >
DB>
DB> Config.log:
DB>
DB> This file contains any messages produced by compilers while running configure,
DB> to aid debugging if configure makes a mistake.
DB>
DB> configure:649: checking whether make sets ${MAKE}
DB> configure:678: checking for gcc
DB> configure:791: checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) works
DB> configure:807: gcc -o conftest conftest.c 1>&5
DB> /usr/bin/ld: cannot open crt1.o: No such file or directory
It looks like you did not install the Clib devel package (headers and
related stuff needed to *develope* (compile!) C programs). The CLib is
a *separate* package from the C compiler itself. From a RedHat 5.2 box:
sauron.deepsoft.com% locate crt1.o
/usr/lib/crt1.o
/usr/lib/gcrt1.o
/usr/lib/Mcrt1.o
sauron.deepsoft.com% rpm -qf /usr/lib/crt1.o
glibc-devel-2.0.7-29
crt1.o lives in /usr/lib and is provided by the glibc-devel package.
'crt1.o' is the C program startup code.
DB> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
DB> configure: failed program was:
DB>
DB> #line 802 "configure"
DB> #include "confdefs.h"
DB>
DB> main(){return(0);}
DB>
DB> --
DB>
DB> I hope this may shed some light... Thanks for the quick reply!
DB>
DB> -------------------------
DB> David Bell - Otherwise known as DB7654321
DB>
DB> Remember to remove nospam, notrash or anything odd looking from my email
DB> address. :)
DB>
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http://vis-www.cs.umass.edu/~heller || [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.deepsoft.com /\FidoNet: 1:321/153
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From: Dutch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: video capture and audio out put
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 23:30:07 GMT
I am looking for a video capture/tv card, but i want it to have audio out
puts that i can hook up to my home amp/reciever.....is there a product
that offers both for a reasonable price?
thanks
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Netscape Newsgroups
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 07:10:15 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Malcolm
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> I am running Red Hat 6.1 with kernel 2.2.12-20 and Netscape Navigator
> 4.71. My problem occurs after I open the communicator and download the
> newsgroups and subscribe to the ones I want. After I close NS and
> disconnect, the next time I log on there are no newsgroups listed. I
> must download all groups again and subscribe to selected groups again.
> Naturally I have reread the entire group again. This happens every
> time I close and reopen NS. I can find nothing in the preferences or
> help about this problem. Any ideas???
Sounds like permission problems (like I had similaraly once before).
As root:
chown -R <username>.<username> ~<username>/.netscape
That will change ownership of all files to <username> for the entire
netscape directory he supposedly already owns. Substitute the
proper name of the user's login, of course.
It happens that on ocassion some of the files end up with root
ownership or that of an account that doesn't exist.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 Address Book to Netscape
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 07:12:18 -0600
In article <FGKU4.122140$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "William T. Trotter"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Any way to import a Windows 2000
> "user.wab" addressbook into Netscape 4.72.
> At home, I'm running Windows and at work,
> most of the time, I'm using Linux (RedHat 6.2).
> I tried exporting to a *.csv file but Netscape
> won't accept it.
My netscape has .nab as an extension (abook.nab to
be precise).
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From: "Jack Kessler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 16:42:48 -0700
Easy. The bottleneck for adoption of linux for home users is that winmodems
won't work with it. More and more modems are winmodems, which rely on the
operating system to do most of the functions that the hardware on the modem
used to do.
The modem manufacturers are in terror of Microsoft if they should release
the code that would be necessary to drive their winmodems under Linux and
"forget" to supply it to the public and Linux developers. Linux users have
to buy full hardware modems which are more expensive, harder to set up and
are becoming harder to find.
Linux companies really don't give a damn because they make their money by
selling to businesses with LANs, not to individuals, and LANs don't use
winmodems.
There is a volunteer project to reverse engineer winmodems, but it is a
difficult undertaking.
Your assignment is to find a way to get the portions of the windows api that
winmodems use, and use it under Linux directly, without reverse engineering
the modems.
Victor Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8g00bv$ufd$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In comp.os.linux.misc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> : Mongoose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> :> I was thinking, maybe not just servers and stuff, but an application
> :> that windows users have but linux doesn't. Something that would give
> :> windows users more of an incentive to move to linux, or help them
> :> migrate to linux.
>
> : The way I see it, Linux needs the following, at minimum, before it can
> : be a legitimate competitor to Windows:
>
> : 1. A streamlined, easy install process;
>
> Disagree. System should be installed by competent techinicans in
> computer shops. Windows is not any more easy to install than say
> Mandrake 7.0, only user do it much more frequently, so get used to it.
>
> : 2. An office suite roughly as functional as Office, and at least as
> : easy to use;
>
> But based on quite diferent ideas - it shouldn't be so bloated and
> should have ability to use its components in scripts, and add own
> components written as simple scripts or C programs to common GUI.
>
> : 3. A GUI package installation mechanism that's as easy to use as
> : InstallShield (trivial if we get a file manager for GNOME or KDE);
and
>
> Whats wrong with capt?
>
> : 4. A GUI interface to the most common configuration files.
>
> Never, never, never let user who doesn't understand things tweak the
> config files. For such users remote sysadmin service via SSH should be
> provided.
>
> : In order to beat Windows, client-side, we need:
>
> : 1. A GUI interface to *all* configuration files;
> I've expressed my opinion above. I'd prefer something like expert system
> - somethig which allows to ask question on natural language, and answer
> with extracts of man and howto. NO GUI - interface just like micq, but
> much more interactivity than stupid office equipment in MS Office
> 2000.
>
> : 2. Integration of all Linux documentation into a centralized,
> : searchable help center;
> Whats wrong with dwww?
> : 3. A DirectX-like platform for hardware-accelerated devices, not
> : necessarily at the kernel level;
> Whats wrong with OpenGL?
> : 4. Abstraction of many protocols and features, ala ODBC (which I hate
> : because it never works, not because it's a bad idea); and
> Whats wrong with
> 1. ODBC?
> 2. DBI/DBD?
>
> : 4. A "killer app." Unfortately, the odds of this being in the office
> : suite are about zero, as MS has far too much of an edge on this
> : front. The GIMP, with a few unique features, may have the
> : potential to get there.
> Given Adobe PhotoShop for Linux coming in half a year?
> No, if apache is not killer app, you'll have to invent totally new way
> of using computers.
>
> But I can give you an idea - some canvas which can be used just is
> people use a piece of page - write text, write formulas (and they will
> be calculated), draw graphs (and they will be aproximated by formula),
> draw arbitrary drawing, and replace hand-drawn objects with exact
> gometry shape if desired.
>
> and all the thing could be converted to well-enough printable form (no
> better quality than Word gives) with few mouse clicks.
>
> Most people would say, hey, this is Word, Excel and MathCad in one
> window, becouse they don't really need neither Word, nor Excel, nor
> MathCad - they need to write simple text, compute simple expressions and
> draw simple graphs. Now MS give them feature-bloated programs, most of
> features of which they never learn, but they consume their hard disk
> space but no professional would use them becouse of poor output quality,
> and OpenSource gives them Lisp and TeX and Emacs, which require
> considerable learning to do anything at all, although if you spend
> enough time learning, you get quality output.
>
>
> : Linux has survived largely because its only real competitor,
> : reliability- and performance-wise, was NT, which few "regular" people
> : liked because it runs about as many Windows programs as Linux. But
> : with Windows 2000 out, suddenly the "mainstream" Windows is comparably
> : stable and feature-laden. I think that, unless Linux starts playing
> : catch-up in a big way, we're going to be relegated to the niche market
> : we've been, until recently, exclusively a part of.
>
> : I suppose that now I'm going to have to get Linux running again so I
> : can put my programming hours where my mouth is. (Reason I'm not using
> : it now? The fucking Aureal Vortex 2 drivers are (a) non-free; and (b)
> : unusably poor.)
>
> : --
> : Eric P. McCoy ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
> : non-combatant, n. A dead Quaker.
> : - Ambrose Bierce, _The Devil's Dictionary_
>
> --
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From: Ernie Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.mail.sendmail,comp.mail.misc
Subject: Re: Web mail, recommendations for unix ?
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 23:51:00 GMT
Hey there,
Thanks for the plug. :) Actually, NeoMail supports Mailbox files in
homedirs, but not Maildirs anymore... And if the webserver is SSL
enabled, you can connect using https:// and since it uses relative
URLs, the rest of your session will remain encrypted. :)
-Ernie "Neo" Miller
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Tor Fredrik Aas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You really should try neomail. Written entirely in perl with no other
> requirements than perl and a httpd server ( apache is fine ). Supports
> mailboxes and Maildirs. No native support for SSL, but you could use
> mod_ssl for that. Homepage is at sourceforge.
>
> -tfa
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David T. Blake)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Date: 21 May 2000 23:54:36 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What TrollTech is currently doing with Qt 2.x and higher is a
> good thing. People who produce GPL software can use Qt without
> worrying about the QPL.
That is not even close to true. Trolltech has rights to a copy
of everything that even links with QT. They could EASILY take
your QT linked code, and fold it into proprietary software.
>From the QT Free license.
If your program links with QT or is a modification of QT, you
must supply a copy of your program (including source) to
Trolltech.
Think about that for a while. They are granted a copy, with
full rights to the copy. They are not bound in this copy by
any license you use. Fair use would allow them to use large
chunks of it in proprietary closed software.
A license is not free if your modifications of the copyright are
not as free as the original.
--
Dave Blake
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Ian Wilkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux User Group in North Kent, England
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 01:44:05 +0100
I would like to know if there is a Linux User Group in or near the North Kent
Area.
If there is not a group I may be starting one if there is sufficient interest.
This idea has raised interest from 3 or 4 people and I would like to know if
there are any other groups or people in this area.
I am situated in the Swanley/Dartford area of Kent anyone interested please
contact me on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thank you for your time.
Ian Wilkinson
--
It's a 106 miles to Chicago, we've got a full tank of Gas,
half a packet of cigarettes, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses.
Hit it.
Uptime at 1:44am up 7 days, 3:35, 7 users,
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From: "Ryan Faricy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: Re: sendmail question
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 20:49:16 -0500
... not a good idea, and sendmail certainly will not "save it's stuff first
before exiting"!
"Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I went into another xterm and as root did kill -9 10759 (the pid of
> that invocation of sendmail).
>
> -9 tells it to save it's stuff first before exiting.
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From: Jeremy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: No sound for Sound Blaster Live
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 01:30:07 GMT
Jeremy wrote:
>
>
> Steve wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 19 May 2000 03:30:04 GMT, Jeremy wrote:
> > >I have recently installed Linux Mandrake 7.0 for the first time. I am
a
> > >newbie to the OS. It detects my card (sound blaster live), but when i
> test
> > >i get nothing. Also need help mounting cd rom. Mounted it, can't use
> it!
> > >Help me please!
> >
> > You may try running sndconfig to get your sound card setup correctly
> that's
> > if sndconfig comes with your distro.
> >
> > To mount a CDROM I su to root and do:
> >
> > [sjlen@zero-pps /etc]$ su
> > Password:
> > [root@zero-pps /etc]# mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
> > mount: block device /dev/cdrom is write-protected, mounting read-only
> > [root@zero-pps /etc]# cd /mnt/cdrom
> > [root@zero-pps cdrom]# ls
> > COPYING README README.1ST RPM-PGP-KEY RedHat TRANS.TBL doc
> dosutils
> > images oreilly
> > [root@zero-pps cdrom]#
> >
> > I then type exit so that I'm back as a normal user again, and go to
the
> > directory /mnt/cdrom where I'll find the root directory of the cdrom.
> > It doesn't matter what directory you're in when you mount the cdrom but
> > when unmounting make sure that you're working directory isn't one of
> > the directories on the cdrom (in any of your windows or sessions),
> > otherwise you get a device busy message.
> >
> > --
> > Cheers
> > Steve email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > %HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee 0 pps.
> >
> > web http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~sjlen/
> >
> > or http://start.at/zero-pps
> >
> > 1:17pm up 1 day, 21:22, 4 users, load average: 1.06, 1.16, 1.08
>
> Thanks for the reply. I will try it and let you know the outcome.
>
> Thank again,
> J
I entered all of the command exactly as you did. The cd-rom is mounted but
it still does not work. I can double click on cd rom from the gui, it
brings up all the files on the disk. Won't let me install new software.
No error messages or nothing. The lit blinks green like it is loading but
nothing ever happens.
About the soundcard, I did the sndconfig--outcome=no driver found.
Any more info would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Jer
>
>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Bell)
Subject: Re: Compiling from source... Which compiler do I need?
Date: 22 May 2000 01:43:14 GMT
>It looks like you did not install the Clib devel package (headers and
>related stuff needed to *develope* (compile!) C programs). The CLib is
>a *separate* package from the C compiler itself. From a RedHat 5.2 box:
>
>sauron.deepsoft.com% locate crt1.o
>/usr/lib/crt1.o
>/usr/lib/gcrt1.o
>/usr/lib/Mcrt1.o
>sauron.deepsoft.com% rpm -qf /usr/lib/crt1.o
>glibc-devel-2.0.7-29
>
>crt1.o lives in /usr/lib and is provided by the glibc-devel package.
>
>'crt1.o' is the C program startup code.
>
Ahhhh... It looks like it's working now! Thanks! Now if I can get WINE set
up, I'll be set! hehe
=========================
David Bell - Otherwise known as DB7654321
Remember to remove nospam, notrash or anything odd looking from my email
address. :)
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From: "Jupiter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Maximum number of files that can be opened in linux
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 21:00:12 -0500
What is the Maximun number of files that can be opened in Linux?
Also, What is the Maximun number of files that can be contained inside a
directory in Linux?
Thanks in Advance
Lee
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From: jhecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: IBM Netvista
Date: 21 May 2000 22:06:20 -0400
Has anyone tried setting up one of these puppies with a Linux distro?
Perhaps bootable off a server with minimum (swap only) disk?
TIA -
Regards,
jh
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From: "Simon Huang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: hangs (for a while) for "eth0"
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 19:06:41 -0700
hi, i am using a "westell" adsl modem with a "kingston kne110tx" ethernet
card on my redhat 6.2 system. each time my computer boots, it stop for a
while for starting the device "eth0" and then say "failed". can anyone tell
me what's the problem?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Subject: Re: IBM Netvista
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 02:09:25 GMT
On 21 May 2000 22:06:20 -0400, jhecker wrote:
>Has anyone tried setting up one of these puppies with a Linux distro?
I'd like to know this myself. We've got a NetFinity 5500 that I'd prefer to
see running Linux rather than NT.
--
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
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Humming along under SuSE 6.4, Linux 2.2.14
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