Linux-Misc Digest #603, Volume #24 Fri, 26 May 00 03:13:02 EDT
Contents:
post dual boot win98 problems (Yshoko)
Re: linux + dsl + pacific bell (Duane)
ide-scsi - How ignore IDE Zip drive? (Ken Pratt)
Re: Installing a new distro while leaving /home intact (Dave Brown)
Trying to get people to visit my web site... ("The Brettschneiders")
Re: vote on MS split-up ("Colin R. Day")
Re: lpd problem (Bob Martin)
Re: May I use your Real Server? (vsync)
Re: "On the next boot fsck will be FORCED" Sure :-) but why *not* ?? (Lew Pitcher)
Re: Financial Accounting System??? (John Hasler)
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: vote on MS split-up (Smitty)
Re: Motif release to Open Source Community leads to Open Motif Everywhere (Richard
L. Hamilton)
apache
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (David T. Blake)
Re: vote on MS split-up (ajam)
Freewwweb slow ? (Sandhitsu R Das)
Re: how to enter a bug report against linux? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux ("Peter T. Breuer")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yshoko)
Subject: post dual boot win98 problems
Date: 26 May 2000 02:17:46 GMT
I`ve got win 98 and linux running on a maxtor 15 g hard drive.
But windows is trying to read the linux boot partition as another drive and
searches for minutes every time I open a program.
I have four partitions,
win,
linux,
fat32 data
linux swap
in `my computer`
win = c:
linux = d
fat32 dat = e
what`s going on.
PS I`m very mucha newbie
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From: Duane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux + dsl + pacific bell
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 19:06:24 -0700
Mike Stevens wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Jim McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Robert Heller wrote:
> > >
> > > John Molitor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > > In a message on Wed, 24 May 2000 17:10:48 -0500, wrote :
> > >
> >
> > > JM>
> > > JM> Has anybody had success using Linux and DSL? I know have
> > > JM> my network card setup properly since I use Linux on a Lan
> > > JM> network in my office at school.
> > >
> > See http://howto.tucows.com/LDP/HOWTO/mini/ADSL.html; the author even
> > has Pac Bell DSL.
> >
> > > Sounds like you don't need help from Pacific Bell. All DSL systems
> use
> > > a 'DSL Modem', which is effectivly a modem/router in a single box --
> one
> > > end wires to the DSL/Voice spliter box and the other end is a RJ45
> --
> > > 10BaseT EtherNet. You just need to have DHCP properly installed and
> > > configured on your computer and you are all set.
> > >
> > Unfortunately not true. Although this was the case when my service was
> > installed, Pac Bell now installs a DSL PCI card supported only by
> > Winders by default. I understand, though, that if you ask nicely,
> > they'll do it the old way, as described. I found anyone I could reach
> at
> > Pac Bell by phone to be quite worthless; fortunately both the guy who
> > came out to check my line and the actual installer were quite
> > knowledgeable, but you should specifically ask for an external DSL
> modem
> > when you place the order.
> > BTW, my Pac Bell DSL has a static IP address[no DHCP], but I guess
> they
> > don't do that anymore, either.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Jim McDonald
> > SLAC
> > Group EC, M/S 95
> >
>
> No, Pac Bell doesn't do static IP's any more :-(. I called them a few
> weeks ago, and they are passing out dynamic IP's, so you'll need a PPPoE
> client for Linux. I went with an ISP that provides static IP's, but the
> link is IDSL (144Kb). Hopefully soon, I can get the best of both
> worlds.
I had my PacBell DSL connection installed 3 weeks ago (in LA). Static
IPs were offered, but they cost more, so I stuck with dynamic IPs. I
received from PacBell a Kingston etherxVP 10/100 PCI ethernet card, a
Westell external DSL modem, and a dynamic IP via PPPoE. I installed the
Roaring Penguin PPPoE client and get rock solid 70+ KB per second
(sometimes 80 KB) downloads, and despite it being a dynamic IP, I leave
it on mostly 24/7. A 144kb link? Yuck. You should have stuck with
PacBell :-)
--
My real email is akamail.com@dclark (or something like that).
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From: Ken Pratt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ide-scsi - How ignore IDE Zip drive?
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 23:13:13 -0400
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I have an IDE CDRW and am using the ide-scsi kernel module so that the
cdrecord command can access the CDRW (using the SCSI interface) and
"burn" CD's. This works well. However, the ide-scsi module also grabs
my IDE zip drive. I do not want this because the SCSI translation
provided by the ide-scsi module does not support the eject function. Is
there a way to get the ide-scsi module to ignore my IDE zip drive short
of changing the source code and recompiling?
I am using RedHat 6.1 (Intel)
Linux kernel version 2.2.12
Any help is appreciated.
--
Ken Pratt
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I have an IDE CDRW and am using the ide-scsi kernel module so that the
cdrecord command can access the CDRW (using the SCSI interface) and "burn"
CD's. This works well. However, the ide-scsi module also
grabs my IDE zip drive. I do not want this because the SCSI translation
provided by the ide-scsi module does not support the eject function.
Is there a way to get the ide-scsi module to ignore my IDE zip drive short
of changing the source code and recompiling?
<p>I am using RedHat 6.1 (Intel)
<br>Linux kernel version 2.2.12
<p>Any help is appreciated.
<pre>--
Ken Pratt</pre>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: Installing a new distro while leaving /home intact
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 25 May 2000 22:22:53 -0500
In article <8ger7k$ngo$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jason Bowen wrote:
>I am going to be doing a re-install on a few machines and /home is on a
>completely sepearate disk that will not be touched. To keep owner/group
>information correct what do you I need to save besides the passwd and
>shadow files?
I share /home between two different linux installs (Slackware and RH). When
I installed the second, I simple went in and created the same users with
the same UIDs and GIDs, but recreated passwords for the users. But another
note: I also share /var/spool/mail on a separate partition so that no matter
which I boot up, the home directories and mail files are there.
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: "The Brettschneiders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Trying to get people to visit my web site...
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 23:25:29 -0400
It's www.dynadns.cc. Just launched it. It's a free DDNS service.
If you have time, please take a look.
Thanks,
Steve
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From: "Colin R. Day" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: vote on MS split-up
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 23:30:27 -0400
Gerald Willmann wrote:
> CNN is conducting a poll whether MS should be split up and if yes into how
> many parts. Please take a minute to vote for a good cause.
>
> -> http://cnnfn.com/poll/microsoft_breakup.html
>
> thanks, Gerald
>
> --
Justice is not the product of opinion polls. Besides, I want
Microsoft destroyed by Linux, not the DOJ.
Colin Day
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From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: lpd problem
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 22:29:48 -0500
ingo korndoerfer wrote:
>
> can anybody help me with this one ?
> i'm out of ideas.
>
> i had my printing and everything else running just fine.
> last week i did something, and i have no clue what.
> maybe it was the deinstallation of the vmware demo.
>
> since the, when i try to print, i get :
>
> lpr: connect: Connection refused
> jobs queued, but cannot start daemon.
>
> however, the daemon is up and running :
>
> 040 S root 5546 1 0 60 0 - 295 wait4 19:00 ?
> 00:00:00 lpd
> 140 S root 5582 5546 0 60 0 - 346 inet_w 19:00 ?
> 00:00:00 lpd
> 000 S ingo 5667 745 0 68 0 - 304 interr 19:22 pts/0
> 00:00:00 grep lpd
>
> the jobs are in the queue, and i can get them printed by loggin on as
> root,
> doing a killall lpd and then restarting the daemon.
> that prints everything in the queue at that point, and then i am where i
> was before.
> rebooting does not help.
>
> what could be my problem ? any hints greatly appreciated.
>
> thanks a lot
>
> ingo
You have two lpds running, not good. More than likely one of your ques
is messed up, this will cause lpd to choke. Check all of your print ques
and make sure they are setup correctly. If you use strace on lpd when
you start it, you can probably determine what the problem is.
--
Bob Martin
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: May I use your Real Server?
From: vsync <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 25 May 2000 22:13:53 -0600
Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Last time I looked, Real made it's basic server available on windows
> platforms too ...
>
> May I suggest a radio ??
Hey, you are no fun at all. This would be an eminently cool hack, and
I wish him the best of luck.
--
vsync
http://quadium.net/ - last updated Wed May 24 22:17:12 MDT 2000
Orjner.
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From: Lew Pitcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: "On the next boot fsck will be FORCED" Sure :-) but why *not* ??
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 04:10:22 GMT
"Andrei A. Dergatchev" wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Thanks a lot for yor reply.
> Well, the thing is, not only I'm 200% sure that this message
> wasn't displayed all previous years, but my rc.6 even survived
> ;-) my hand edition recently. I see something concerning
> /etc/fastboot in rc.6, which is absent on my system (at least
> now), but I don't know what "! -f" means - can it be that this
> file got lost and that's the reason I'm seeing this message now ?
I believe that you are referring to...
# Now halt or reboot.
echo "$message"
[ ! -f /etc/fastboot ] && echo "On the next boot fsck will be
FORCED."
$command -f
in /etc/rc.d/rc.6, and specifically, the line...
[ ! -f /etc/fastboot ] && echo "On the next boot fsck will be
FORCED."
Let's take this one part at a time...
'[' is an alias for the 'test' program, so
[ ! -f /etc/fastboot ]
executes the 'test' program. This specific line says
"return an exit status of 0 if the /etc/fastboot file does not
exist"
the && says
run the left side of the statement, and if the exit status is
zero,
then run the right side of the statement, otherwise (if the left
side's
exit status wasn't zero) don't run the right side of the statement
So, the net effect is to echo the line "On the next boot fsck will be
FORCED"
if the file /etc/fastboot does not exist.
Now, the /etc/fastboot file is created by the shutdown command if you
give it the -f option, so performing a normal shutdown will not create
this file. It is a sentinal file, containing no data. According to man
shutdown,
"The -f flag means `reboot fast'. This only creates an
advisory file /fastboot which can be tested by the system
when it comes up again. The boot rc file can test if this
file is present, and decide not to run fsck(1) since the
system has been shut down in the proper way. After that,
the boot process should remove /fastboot."
However, (at least on stock Slackware 3.3) the /etc/rc.d/rc.S doesn't
test for /etc/fastboot or even remove it. If it's there, it stays
there.
The net effect is that if you create an /etc/fastboot file (through
shutdown or otherwise),
rc.6 won't say anything about forced fsck, but rc.S will still fsck
your filesystem.
> I haven't found anything concerning /etc/fastboot in rc.S :-(
> so I don't know how rc.S my trigger this message in rc.6.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Andrei
>
> >
> >It's just a text 'echo'ed by /etc/rc.d/rc.6 at the end of the script.
> >I believe that it alludes to the fsck performed unconditionally by
> >/etc/rc.d/rc.S
> >
> >--
> >Lew Pitcher
> >
> >Master Codewright and JOAT-in-training
--
Lew Pitcher
Master Codewright and JOAT-in-training
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Financial Accounting System???
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 03:10:09 GMT
Christopher Browne writes:
> Look to SQL-Ledger at <http://www.simtax.ca/acc/>,...
Looks interesting: I downloaded it.
> ...and FreePFM at <http://www.teachquest.com/freepfm/>.
This link seems to be dead.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 04:24:57 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian V. Smith) writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> |> David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> |> > If Windows is so great, why do you have to reboot when you change your
> |> > IP address?
> |> You don't.
> Of course you do! It forces you to and if you don't it doesn't use
> the new address until you do.
Of course you don't. To verify, before I replied, I went from a
hardcoded address to a DHCP-driven one. Then I went back, because the
DHCP servers here are flaky. No reboot, connections were disrupted
for less than a second, and ipconfig verified that the change-over had
indeed occurred.
I believe this is a new feature as of Windows 2000, however.
--
Eric P. McCoy ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
non-combatant, n. A dead Quaker.
- Ambrose Bierce, _The Devil's Dictionary_
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 04:30:46 GMT
Nix <$}xinix{[email protected]> writes:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > [1] Having two separate "enlightenment" and "enlightenment-nosound"
> > packages that differ only in their dependencies is, in my opinion,
> > broken packaging.
> You *do* comprehend the concept of virtual packages, don't you?
If it means that my opinion is wrong, then no, I do not.
> (That is, `this is not a bug. This is a feature.')
I'd drop the sound-based dependencies from E - because if E works
without them, they obviously aren't required - and then suggest the
packages that differ between the two.
--
Eric P. McCoy ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
non-combatant, n. A dead Quaker.
- Ambrose Bierce, _The Devil's Dictionary_
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From: Smitty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: vote on MS split-up
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 00:35:28 -0400
"Colin R. Day" wrote:
> Gerald Willmann wrote:
>
> > CNN is conducting a poll whether MS should be split up and if yes into how
> > many parts. Please take a minute to vote for a good cause.
> >
> > -> http://cnnfn.com/poll/microsoft_breakup.html
> >
> > thanks, Gerald
> >
> > --
>
> Justice is not the product of opinion polls. Besides, I want
> Microsoft destroyed by Linux, not the DOJ.
>
> Colin Day
Hear! Hear! Crush them in the market place where they live!
Smitty
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard L. Hamilton)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Motif release to Open Source Community leads to Open Motif Everywhere
Date: 26 May 2000 06:04:45 GMT
I haven't played with the Unix services of OS/390 enough to know
how good they are (yet), but if they're not too bad, I'd consider
that _provided_ you've got the staff to have a clue about the
most complex operating system the world has ever seen. Using either
it or one of the other Unixes running under VM (I think AIX may be
supported like that, dunno about the others) would allow both native
and Unix-ish facilities to be available, which might might get more
advantage out of running Unix on such an expensive beast than one
would otherwise have. But I suppose it depends on _why_ you want
to run Unix on a mainframe (something I guess I have a hard time
imagining the point of, much as I like Unix).
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Daniel S. Riley) writes:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (phil hunt) writes:
>> >> Which Unix do IBM recommend for the S/390. Is it:
>> >> (a) Linux
>> >> (b) AIX
>> >
>> >or (c) OS/390 (formerly called MVS)
>>
>> Is this a Unix?
>
> http://www.s390.ibm.com/products/oe/bpxa1mau.html
>
> OS/390 UNIX system services are XPG4 UNIX 95 branded, so, from a
> particularly annoying legalistic trademark perspective, OS/390 is
> UNIX and Linux is not.
--
ftp> get |fortune
377 I/O error: smart remark generator failed
Bogonics: the primary language inside the Beltway
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.smart.net/~rlhamil
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: apache
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 05:30:16 GMT
I have apache installed on my redhat 6.2 server, but whenever I go to the
world wide web site, it tells me that it is forbidden. I think it is a
problem with my config files, but I don't know. What should I do?
--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David T. Blake)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Date: 24 May 2000 21:48:30 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
George Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 23 May 2000 13:07:01 GMT, David T. Blake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> The right is non-exlusive. That means everyone can get that right. I
> >> think TrollTech is just trying to prevent forking of the Qt library
> >> here.
I did not write this. Please set your attributions properly.
> Forking is allowed. Distribution via patches from pristine
> source - just like what dpkg and rpm source files can do for you.
> Is that too fucking hard?
You specifically MUST distribute Trolltech's version of QT along
with whatever patches you distribute with them. That hardly allows
forking. You may not think of using patch as much of an
impediment to acceptance, but it is sufficient to prevent 99.9%
of end users from EVER using a fully functional port. It prevents
forking, plain and simple.
Note followups.
--
Dave Blake
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: ajam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: vote on MS split-up
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 02:30:05 -0400
Gerald Willmann wrote:
> CNN is conducting a poll whether MS should be split up and if yes into how
> many parts. Please take a minute to vote for a good cause.
>
> -> http://cnnfn.com/poll/microsoft_breakup.html
>
> thanks, Gerald
>
> --
This is like the Soviet Union. Now that it is not a direct threat, we have a
zillion people to worry about. Regardless, if it is M$ or someone else, you
always are going to have someone controlling most of the market. I prefer
to deal with an enemy that I know well, than one that I don't plus a zillion
creeping everywhere! My personal opinion is that M$ should be nailed big
time, and regulated left and right, but a break up really won't solve much!
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From: Sandhitsu R Das <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux
Subject: Freewwweb slow ?
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 02:32:38 -0400
I'm getting slow connections with freewwweb. Is there any fine tuning
necessary in the startup scripts or something to get a better connection ?
I've made their page my homepage and visit it right after ppp is
established. What's the kind of data transfer rate with netscape people
are getting ?
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: how to enter a bug report against linux?
Date: 25 May 2000 19:34:46 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Mark Wilden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: "Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
:> I'm afraid that's just not true. About 80% of driver changes are
:> reactions to kernel changes (this is different for stable kernels, but
: Sorry, by 'current build', I mean the current build with only the
: changes you've made. If you've made changes only because the kernel has
: changed, then I can see that would make it harder to do unit testing.
Those are indeed the only changes I hope to make in my drivers. But mine
aren't hardware drivers. For real hardware drivers, there are also
hardware foibles to react to. But even those aren't immune to changes
in the rest of the software system when apparently _nothing_ has
changed. Something else suddenly taking a favourite interrupt or
dwelling too long with irq's off, for example, due to the time of day.
Yes, I did have hardware that wouldn't work on thursdays ... I think
we narrowed that one down to an interaction between the bridging
spanning tree pulses at boot up, the powerhub configurable routers,
our 3c509's in promiscuous mode, and the protocol used by the
accounting people on the next subnet along to transfer their M$
wordcharts, or whatever they used.
:> There isn't one. There is no agreed interface, even. Linux insists on that.
I meant to say "Linus insiste on that".
: I don't mean to sound flippant, but if a piece of code doesn't have a
: 'contract' ('I will do this if you give me that') then it doesn't have a
: spec.
Absolutley so. I am doing my best to do some formal specification of
parts of the kernel. The real problem is that it changes too fast for
me to understand it, let alone describe it.
If it doesn't have a spec, then I can see that it would be hard to
: create a unit test for it. And if you can't properly test your work, I
: think the Linux team deserves even more credit for the results it has
: achieved than it already does! :)
: Nevertheless, if 'Linux' insists that there is no agreed interface, it
I meant "Linus". It's an engineering decision intended to previde code
becoming too stiff and old. Any kernel interface can change anytime.
I'm still working on understanding how I'm supposed to work the buffer
code in 2.2, as opposed to 2.0. which I had pat.
: sounds to me that more work is being created than necessary. But
: whatever works, I suppose...
: Your test has to take that into account. Look, the only purpose of unit
: tests is to make it easier to do the system test. If you can't do unit
I agree. However, the problem is that there are no rules. If you don't
like a bit of kernel behaviour becuase it shows up a bug in your
application, you can always hope to sneak in a kernel patch that bugs
the kernel so that your application behaves right (I bet realaudio
wanted to try that!). Then let everybody else work out what's going on!
:-)
Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Date: 25 May 2000 19:41:07 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Jim Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: On 25 May 2000 04:54:09 GMT,
: Peter T. Breuer, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
: brought forth the following words...:
:>In comp.os.linux.misc Jim Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:>: Sure, you can replicate the functionality in RPM or Deb easily enough, but
:>: not with just the ./configure;make;make install mentioned. (At least not
:>: without the connivence of the writer of the ./configure script.) RPM allready
:>
:>setenv INSTALL "pkginstall install -c"
: Having logged it, what tool do you use to check before removing/upgrading
: something?
less and grep.
: (this is slackware you are discussing, right? )
Yep. You can also do a dry run with removepkg or installpkg and the right
flag. I don't bother since I'm hardly likely to remove libc. I do have to
keep remembering not to remove tk/tcl 4.0/7.1 4.1/7.2 etc. etc though!
I.e. there is a nonzero probability that I will upgrade+remove an old
package which will leave some other old utility high and dry, leaning
on nothing. But it's very unlikely, as I "know what I'm doing". I
wouldn't do a remove without looking hard for binaries that used its
dynamic libraries. Meta-compilers have got me on occasion though.
Peter
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