Linux-Misc Digest #605, Volume #24 Fri, 26 May 00 09:13:02 EDT
Contents:
xfs refuses to start ("Steven Thurgood (1X0S)")
Re: Partitioning a hard disk (optimal configurations) (Andrew Williams)
Re: Partitioning a hard disk (optimal configurations) (Cedric Ware)
Re: Rich text format (Chris Boyd)
Re: Linux Hangs -Freeze (Rafael)
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (David T. Blake)
Re: Apache user rights (aflinsch)
auto sendmail reply (Rita Barney)
Re: AMD K6-III -why i586? (Thomas Luzat)
Re: vote on MS split-up (James Stevenson)
Re: oldest linux box? (James Stevenson)
SMP+3Com905B hangs (Cezary Sobaniec)
Re: Q: how to set up my sound card?
RH 6.0 (HD) installation problem
Re: how to enter a bug report against linux? (Donal K. Fellows)
PHP vs Java (Ben Chausse)
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From: "Steven Thurgood (1X0S)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: xfs refuses to start
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 12:02:25 +0100
I have redhat 6.0, kernel 2.2.5
occasionaly upon startup, the x login program starts, then drops back to
the prompt with the error cannot find font fixed, and something about a
bad directory -/0:unix I think.
Is this caused by lack of hard disk space, as my linux partition
alternates between 99 and 100% full. I say this as I haven't really
changed anything, and deleting some stuff from my temp directory made it
work again.
If not, then what is the problem and how do I fix it?
-Steve
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From: Andrew Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Partitioning a hard disk (optimal configurations)
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 13:17:08 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
a couple of additional points here:
- you can also have a /boot partition of about 4 or 5 MB (right at the front).
- I believe you can make /usr read-only in fstab under Red Hat. This is a good
security measure, but it means you have to change fstab and reboot to change it.
Actually, you could do that to /boot as well.
If you want to put vmlinuz in your /boot, look for the appropriate line in
/usr/src/linux/Makefile and uncomment it. Then 'make lilo' works automatically.
Robert Heller wrote:
> Blake LeBaron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> In a message on Fri, 26 May 2000 01:02:44 GMT, wrote :
>
> BL> I am going to configure my disk as 100% linux (it is now 50/50
> BL> Win95/Linux). I'm curious what people think about the best way to
> BL> partition a hard disk (mine is about 12 gig) for a 100% linux system.
> BL>
> BL> I think I should have more than 1 large partition (+ swap), but I'm not
> BL> sure about this. I've been thinking about putting the system stuff in
> BL> one partition, and then mounting a second partition at /home for all the
> BL> user related stuff. Are there arguments for having even more than 2
> BL> partitions?
>
> Yes, many.
>
> I generally use a partition scheme like this:
>
> P# Size Type Mounted as
>
> 1 64M Ext2 /
> 2 128M swap
> 3 1.5G Ext2 /usr
> 4 <remainder> Extended...
> 5 64M Ext2 /var
> 6 2gig Ext2 /home
> 7 <remainder> Ext2 /scratch
>
> The size of /home can be larger and or /scratch can be broken up into
> multiple partitions -- this is user preference, but might determined by
> your backup capabilities.
>
> Having a (relatively) small root partition gives you a saftey margin in
> case of a disaster. This small root partition is likely to be safe,
> which means you can generally be able to boot in single-user mode.
>
> Having /usr split off also protects it as well. /var gets lots of
> pounding (log files, lock files, pid files, etc.). Putting /home and
> /scratch off separately gives the 'users' a safe area to 'play' that
> won't touch the important system stuff.
>
> A partitioning scheme like this also makes backups easier. Once the
> system has been properly installing and configured, the /, /usr, and
> /var partitions only need a base level backup. You can concentrate
> regular / frequent backups on the /home partition. Splitting off user
> scratch space (/scratch) from user perm. storage (/home) gives the users
> a scratch area for throw-away files that need not clutter up backups.
> This saves you the cost of 'wasted' backup media and backup time.
>
> BL>
> BL> I was just curious what others have done with this problem, and what
> BL> works best.
> BL>
> BL> Blake LeBaron
> BL>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cedric Ware)
Subject: Re: Partitioning a hard disk (optimal configurations)
Date: 26 May 2000 11:19:46 GMT
[ Long, for easy examples look by the end. ]
>I am going to configure my disk as 100% linux (it is now 50/50
>Win95/Linux). I'm curious what people think about the best way to
>partition a hard disk (mine is about 12 gig) for a 100% linux system.
This is really getting to be a FAQ, and I already summed up my views on
that problem, but Deja hasn't put its old articles back online yet, and
the Partitioning-HOWTO hadn't really satisfied me. In any case, you may
want to read the FHS (Filesystem Hierarchy Standard) for the rationale
behind this.
So, there are as many partitioning strategies as there are sysadmins,
and it doesn't really matter to the system's normal operation as long
as all partitions are mounted in the right places. It does matter,
however, outside normal operations; as I understand it, there are three
basic issues related to partitioning: ease of backing up or upgrading
the system, crash-resiliency and vulnerability to denials of service.
The first one (backup/upgrade), is easier if you have a clear separation
between data which have different origins and lifespans. For example,
the system (typically / and /usr) seldom changes and doesn't need to be
backed up as often as user data (/home or /users) which is constantly
updated, while system state information and logs (/var) may not even
need to be. Also, for system upgrades, it is safer not to have system
data (/, /usr) in the same partition as local data (/usr/local, /home)
if you want to keep the latter untouched.
The second relates to filesystem stability after a crash; yes, Linux and
UNIX in general are stable, but that won't do much in case of a power or
hardware failure. Since the most likely way to damage a filesystem is
by writing to it, better isolate writable data from critical partitions
(not putting /tmp, /var and /home in the / partition, for instance), or
not allow it at all if possible (theoretically /usr could be mounted RO).
Thirdly, you don't want a normal user to create a denial of service by
filling up a writable partition such as /home, /tmp or /var/tmp, which
means that these are better outside partitions where the system needs
to write (/, /var).
Now, you don't necessarily have to fulfill all these requirements,
especially for a workstation, which doesn't provide critical services
and should be kept rather simple so that it is easy to administrate:
having many small partitions is less flexible and more wasteful of disk
space than a few large ones, and can probably hurt performance if they
are all on a single disk.
As an example, I installed my workstation with five partitions, which I
think is a good compromise: /, swap, /usr, /var and /local, with /tmp
symlinked into /var/tmp, and /home, /usr/local and /opt into /local.
Maybe I ought to have made /tmp its own partition with /var/tmp linked
to it (at the expense of one more partition), or put it in /local (but
it would have increased the number of writes there). There's also
/usr/src which ought to be symlinked there. I also didn't consider the
possibility to improve security by mounting some partitions noexec/nosuid.
OTOH, on the server I am about to put in production (after the timing
race in the eepro100 initialization code is solved, that is) there are
two hard disks, so the /tmp and /usr/local partitions will be separate.
Probably also /var/mail and /var/spool, which could be on different
physical disks so that disk access is balanced among them.
Hope this helps,
Cedric.
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From: Chris Boyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Rich text format
Date: 26 May 2000 11:40:23 GMT
Frank Ekeberg H. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Is there a decent non-X program for reading/writing documents in the Rich Text
:Format (.rtf)?
: I have problems opening .rtf attachements in mutt, and it is pretty annoying having
:to open StarOffice (which is a terrible memory hog) just to read short email
:attachements.
For reading RTF, and if you do Perl, you can download the RTF-Parser
module at http://search.cpan.org/search?dist=RTF-Parser
It includes two self-explanatory scripts, rtf2text and rtf2html.
There is also an RTF writing module at
http://search.cpan.org/search?dist=RTF-Document
but this is alpha and I haven't tried it.
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From: Rafael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux Hangs -Freeze
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 13:57:44 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi!
Reset button only not work when it freeze like I described in other situation it
always work.
Rafael
Raffael Herzog wrote:
> Robert Schweikert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Rafael wrote:
> >
> > > My Linux (Red Hat 6.2, kernel 2.14 and 6.1) hangs. I run on the same
> > > computer Windows 98 and it works without hangings. I would like use
> > > only Linux on this computer but I can't. It hangs (freeze), the reset
> > > button could not restart computer (black screen). I have to turn power
> > > of. Please help me. What could be the reason.
> > > I have Epox MVP3C2 mainboard, I use S3 868 PCI graphic card with 2 Mb
> > > RAM on it.
> > > I downloaded lately new kernel 2.14-12 and instaled it. After it things
> > > went worst, my computer started eaven hangs at lower speed of the
> > > processor.
> > > It is realy strange that when I am adding additional PCI card I have to
> > > slow down the speed of the mainboard and processor.
> > >
> > > One thing I wonder is it corect that eth0 , eth1 and my graphic card
> > > work on the same interupt.
> >
> > All devices should have different interupts. Your network cards, maybe even
> > your sound card may all be plug and pray and thus when you start Windoze
> > IRQ get assigned and they are all different. This does not happen in Linux.
> > If you cards are plug and pray there is probably some software switch to
> > turn the plug and pray feature of and to configure the port and IRQ. I
> > would start there.
>
> I would start there, too, though my laptop has almost every card on
> IRQ 5 and it's working perfectly. Maybe a strange mainboard (because
> the reset switch doesn't work)?
>
> > Good luck Robert
> >
> > > Do you know how can I change interupt number
> > > in Linux of my graphic PCI card. At Windows I have the same interupts.
> > > I have in my computer:
> > > Modem Zoltrix Internal Sp Phone V.34 (PCI)
> > > TurtleBeach Malibu Sound card (ISA)
> > > Realtek 8029 Network card (ISA)
> > > Realtek 8129 Network card (PCI)
> > > S3 Vision 868 PCI graphic card
> > > Hard Drive 27 GB IBM - IDE ATA-66 - master on first controler
> > > CD Rom x 32 slave on second controler
> > >
> > > Please give me some advice, I starting be mad about this problem.
> > > Why the same computer not hang in Windows 98 (never) but in Linux very
> > > often and it freeze tottaly, no responce and I have turn of power to
> > > restart it, reset button did not restart it.
> > >
> > > Rafael
> >
> > --
> > Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] LINUX
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> //
> // Raffael Herzog
> \\ // [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David T. Blake)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Date: 25 May 2000 06:39:34 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David T. Blake) writes:
> ' I was not arguing I should create a library. I was not arguing
> ' against QTs right to use whatever license they like. I was
> ' arguing that people should think twice before referring to QT
> ' licensing as substantially free or "open source". The right to
> ' fork is absent, the right not to have your contributions included
> ' in proprietary works (such as QT Pro) is gone, and QT gets a copy
> ' of EVERYTHING that even links to their code, even if it is not
> ' publicly available.
>
> I see what you are saying now, I think. Mind you, you loose any such
> rights if you use GPL code as well, so there is also the same
> consideration with that license.
GPL is only one of the FSF licenses for libraries. There is no
provision for ANYONE to include your code in proprietary works as
there is in QT (a one way provision, mind you). As long as your
work can be considered independent of the GPL'd work, you can use
ANY license you like for yur work. To quote the GPL
"If identifiable sections of that work are not derived from the
Program, and can be reasonably considered independent and
separate works in themselves, then this License, and its terms,
do not apply to those sections when you distribute them as
separate works."
But that is besides the point.
The GPL preserves certain freedoms. If software is licensed under
it, you have the right to use it. You have the right to change it.
You have the right to fork it. All you have to do is provide the
same freedoms to recipients of derivative works. Nullum gratiutum
prandium, but you can get close.
The QPL assures that Trolltech has more freedom that you. It
assures Trolltech of ALWAYS being the maintainer of the primary
version of QT and ANYTHING that could be considered a derivative.
It represents a lawyers best attempt to get Bruce Perens and Eric
Raymond to say it is AOK. It certainly fails provision 2 of the
open source definition - that derivative may be licensed under
the same terms as the original. Providing for patched derivatives
is only VERY slightly better than allowing no derivatives at all.
It prevents forking. It assures QT of a constant revenue stream.
Their business plan is rolling freely contributed patches into
their proprietary product (QT pro) and allowing people like
StarOffice to buy lots of licenses for it. There is your free
lunch. Stomp on free software authors' freedoms to make a living.
> As for code that is not publicly available, ie an internal app,
> Qt and the rest of the world will never know about it. However,
> this is a bit of a grey area in my mind. If Troll found out about
> the code and asked for it, what then? Deny everything?
This is justifying plausible deniability. Grade school stuff. If
you can't live with QT knowing what you are doing with their
library, you probably shouldn't be doing it. At best you get away
with it, at worst it comes back to bite you in the ass. They want
you to PAY for everything proprietary or even private you do with
their library. That is their issue. Justifying it to the public
is a much larger issue.
> Maybe the Harmony project will settle this last concern. That
> all depends if Harmony is LGPL or GPL.
LGPL. Anyone may link without fear. But the motivation for the
project may be somewhat less with "open source" advocates
rolling over and playing dead on the issue.
http://www.yggdrasil.com/~harmony/
It shouldn't be open source if the same freedoms you give freely
are not given to derivative authors. Period. That one statement
could greatly simplify
http://www.opensource.org/osd.html
--
Dave Blake
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From: aflinsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Apache user rights
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 08:07:46 -0500
Robie Basak wrote:
>
> On Thu, 25 May 2000 20:05:00 +0200, Rafael said:
> >I have Apache 3.12. Each users have pages at their home directories in
> >public_html folder. To enable access to their web pages I had change
> >rights of their home folders to 755. I don't want them able to look at
> >theirs home folders. How to do this. To make at the same time their web
> >pages be visible.
>
> Create a directory called /home/www, or something, owner and group
> the same as Apache runs as (apache, httpd or something, check your
> configuration file). Give it permissions of 755.
>
> Create a directory under /home/www for each user who wants a web page,
> making it owned by them, group httpd (or whatever). These directories
> should have permission 750 (if you have lots of users, make a script
> to do this).
>
> Then find the UserDir directive (IIRC) in Apache's configuration, and
> make it /home/www/ (AFAIK).
>
This is what I do, but I also create a symlink from the user's home
directory to it.
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From: Rita Barney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: auto sendmail reply
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 12:30:02 GMT
I have inherited a Linux Redhat system that automatically sends the former
administrator an email every time a backup is done on the conetics
system. I can find sendmail sends to her email address in the logs. I
have egreped for the email address and looked through all the
directories/subdirectories for any file that could be doing this so I can
change the email address in it. Any help pointing me in the direction to
look for this would be most appreciated. Please email me directly at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] in addition to posting here. Thanks, Rita
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From: Thomas Luzat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: AMD K6-III -why i586?
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 14:37:14 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 25 May 2000 22:59:07 +0200, Rafael
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Why Linux recognized AMD K6-III as i586 and not as i686? Can I use i686
i586 is right.
>kernel for this AMD? When trying install new i686 kernel from rpm
>instalation program says :
>"Wrong architecture"
>and abort instalation
Manually it should work. The Linux 2.3.x kernels (don't know which
version exactly) do allow you to select K6 and Athlon CPUs in
menuconfig, but I don't know whether that's just for convenience.
Thomas
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Stevenson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: vote on MS split-up
Date: 26 May 2000 13:15:08 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi
first of all befiore you get the wrong idea i dont like microsoft
but the problem i can see if they are split up instead of having
1 company at the top there will be 2 companys which could just make
problems worse
cya
James
On Fri, 26 May 2000 09:33:03 GMT, Krist van Besien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>ajam wrote:
>> My personal opinion is that M$ should be nailed big
>> time, and regulated left and right, but a break up really won't solve much!
>
>You mean you want the governement to step in and actually save
>Microsoft?
>
>Krist
>
>--
>Actually, Microsoft is sort of a mixture between the Borg and the
>Ferengi.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Stevenson)
Subject: Re: oldest linux box?
Date: 26 May 2000 13:17:12 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi
i have a small 486/SX33 i think not sure cpu does not show up in
/proc/cpuinfo ??
but its been up around 90 days i hop to put together a few 386 when i get
the time i have the bits laying around anyone got any 16 pin simms kicking
around that are > 1MB ?
cya
James
On Thu, 25 May 2000 17:20:04 -0400, Young4ert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>John Girash wrote:
>>
>> Jeff Workman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> : [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>>
>> :> Just curious, what's the oldest linux box that folks have these days?
>>
>> : I've got a 486sx25 that gets occasional use and a P75 that was a web server
>> : on a cable modem, serving around 5-8k of hits a day until I moved in October.
>>
>> I'll lay good money that there are dozens (probably hundreds, maybe thousands)
>> of 386sx16's out there still being used as simple terminals and/oor servers.
>>
>> (Just trying to keep there from being dozens (if not hundreds or thousands)
>> of followups from peeps who think 486/P5's etc are old -- no offence Jeff :-)
>>
>> john "just recently retired a 386sx25 / kernel 1.2 notebook" g
>
>I have an i80386/16 (No math-co) running Linux-2.3.99-pre9 as a router.
>
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From: Cezary Sobaniec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SMP+3Com905B hangs
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 14:39:20 +0200
I have a 2xPII machine with 3C905B network card. I use SuSE 6.4
with kernel 2.2.14. With SMP kernel it worked fine till I had
started to transfer megabytes of data through the network.
The computer then completely hangs. The same appears when I try
to down the eth0 interface (ifconfig eth0 down). This computer
works perfectly with SMP off.
Any ideas?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: Q: how to set up my sound card?
Date: 26 May 2000 12:49:23 GMT
Hi,
My problem with sound is this. I'm running Mandrake 7.0 on my laptop,
and managed to get the sound working okay. The problem is that instead
of shutting down the system every day, I only suspend the operation.
When I wake up the machine, the sound no longer works until rebooting
or running sndconfig. I compiled the relevant drivers in the kernel,
instead of having them in modules. While I had the sound support as
modules in an earlier version, I could run
'/etc/rc.d/init/sound restart' after every wake up, which repared the
sound system, but since the driver is configured into the kernel,
/etc/rc.d/init/sound no longer exists. I know I should go back to
modular drivers, but I'd rather not experiment with the kernel unless
it's absolutely necessary.
Anyone has any idea what to do?
Akos
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: RH 6.0 (HD) installation problem
Date: 26 May 2000 12:49:25 GMT
Oh Mighty Ones,
I have an old 486 (Cyrix Dx2 66 MHz) based PC, with a matching old Ami
Bios firmware. I also have Quantum Fireball SE, 3.2 GB HD, and a Sanyo
CD driver. Yesterday I decided to put a video card and a floppy drive
and an ethernet card in the box, and set it up as a router + firewall for
my home LAN, running Red Hat 6.0. The HD contains rubbish (if anything),
due to a failed attempt to use it in a similarly old machine running Win95.
Because that machine only recognised 504 MB of the HD, after several
attempts of using every combination of (W95) fdisk, format c: and sys c:,
this attemt was abandoned.
First I tried to install Linux starting straight from a RH 6.0 boot disk,
and then CD ROM. I reached the stage in the setup process, where it starts
to set up the file system, and asks whether to use Disk Druid or fdisk.
I tried both (in subsequent attempts), both neither worked. The error
message is this:
"Failed to stat (then open) /tmp/syslog. No such file or directory."
If I go to a shell prompt (vty 2), and create this file, then the following
error appeares:
"You don't have any hard disks available! You probably forgot to configure
a SCSI controller."
Since my HD is EIDE, I chose no SCSI support when asks. Needless to say no
/dev/hda exists when I try to run 'fdisk /dev/hda' manually. Yet, at boot
time it does recognise correctly both the HD (with its FAT partitions) and
the CD.
I tried to partition (under DOS) the HD in several different ways, formattedit
(again DOS), installed MS-DOS 6.2 on it, no change. In fact, when I did
install DOS on the HD, PC still refused to boot from it, just stopped frozen
(didn't try booting from the floppy, when it was the secondary choice).
Using Dos's fdisk correctly states that the first, primary partition, starting
from the begining of the HD is bootable (A flag). I also run Norton'd disk
doctor on it, and it also checked out without error.
I ran out of ideas. Anybody can possibly help?
TIA,
Akos
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donal K. Fellows)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: how to enter a bug report against linux?
Date: 26 May 2000 12:55:06 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Mark Wilden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't think there's anything wrong with that, actually. It's an XP
> tenet to 'embrace change' rather than try to restrain it with
> over-specification.
OTOH, under-specification can lead to horrendous bugs, including ones
of the sort that cause no crashes, incorrect answers or lost chunks of
memory. (Yeah, I've had this kind in my own code causing memory usage
to grow from around 100MB to over 4GB[*] on the same input; failure to
specify an interface tightly enough was the root cause.) The trade
off between flexibility and bug control makes the problem of producing
specifications very interesting indeed...
Donal.
[* Don't you just love supercomputers? :^) ]
--
Donal K. Fellows http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~fellowsd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-- I may seem more arrogant, but I think that's just because you didn't
realize how arrogant I was before. :^)
-- Jeffrey Hobbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: Ben Chausse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.help,comp.unix.programmer,comp.os.linux.advocacy,linux.redhat,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: PHP vs Java
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 13:04:30 GMT
Hi,
We have a webserver on Debian 2.2 with apache 1.3.12 & mod_perl 1.21 and
I would like to know what is the best between PHP and Java (.php or
.jsp) ????
Do you know any web pages about benchmark test on PHP and Java ???
Thanks ...
Ben0iT ...
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