Linux-Misc Digest #605, Volume #18               Wed, 13 Jan 99 21:13:11 EST

Contents:
  Linux on Dell insp. 7000 (Matt Bettencourt)
  Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Arthur)
  Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (somebody)
  Re: Boot problem (Gary Momarison)
  Re: newest devel kernel 2.3.0? (Christopher Browne)
  Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Chris Allen)
  New to Linux ("Mario Amaral")
  Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Peter Cedermark)
  Re: Resolution, Monitors, Other stuff Help needed please (David Fox)
  Re: kde and ppp problems (Francesc Guasch)
  Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ... (Eugene O'Neil)
  Re: Colours ("Anthony Valentine")
  Re: 3C905B Ethernet board (Ian Hay)
  Re: What happened to blackdown.org (Java-Linux porting project?) (Ulrich Teichert)
  Problem with Scsi Zip (Mr. Belod)

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From: Matt Bettencourt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux on Dell insp. 7000
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:08:40 -0600

I am looking at the following laptop and I was wondering if anyone has
one similar to this and is running linux.  4K$ for this system (with
spare monitor/keyboard) is a great for this but I want to make sure that
I can run linux.  Obviously, my concers are on the graphics and the
modem/lan card (PCMCIA slots in gerenal).  I assume that the DVD is just
fine, especially in CD mode.
Thanks
Matt


     Dell Inspiron 7000 Pentium� II
     Notebook:
                         Pentium� II processor, Inspiron 7000 300MHz,
15" XGA Active
                         Matrix TFT Color
                         C300LT - [220-0614]
     Memory:
                         96MB SDRAM (2 DIMMs)
                         96M2D - [311-0587]
     Keyboard:
                         Performance 104 Key Keyboard
                         PK - [310-1252]
     Monitor:
                         Dell 1200HS 19 inch Monitor with 17.9" Viewable
Image Size
                         12HS - [320-1064]
     Video Memory:
                         8MB ATI Rage Pro 3D Video with 2X AGP
                         VID8MB - [320-0061]
     Hard Drive:
                         6.4GB Hard Drive
                         64GB - [340-0849]
     Operating System:
                         Windows 98 on CD-ROM
                         W98 - [420-0162]
     Mouse:
                         Microsoft PS/2 Style System Mouse
                         PS/2 - [310-3180][310-1256]
     Modem:
                         56K Modem/Lan 10/100 Combo Card
                         MLC - [412-0086][430-0188]
     CD ROM:
                         Removable Combo 2X DVD-Rom Drive & 3.5" Floppy
Drive
                         DVDM - [313-0381]
     Doc/Dsk:
                         Getting Started Video
                         VID - [310-1221]
     Bundled Software:
                         MS Office '97 CD (Small Business Edition)
                         SBE97* - [412-0072]
     Iomega ZIP Drive:
                         Removable Modular Iomega ZIP Drive
                         ZIP - [340-2001]

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From: Arthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:35:20 -0800

John Morris wrote:
> 
> > DOS was written by somebody else
> >and Gates paid a measly $75k for it.
> 
> I'm following this thread with interest.
> 
> I'm curious..... what was the "idea" with
> developing DOS anyway??
> 
> I mean...... why couldn't have an operating system
> like Linux be developed a LONG time ago and used
> on the early PC's and DOS could have never
> existed??
> 
> Was DOS the only way to get an OS on such machines
> back then??
> 
> I mean DOS is an OS that has been stripped of
> networking, multi-tasking, etc... right??
> 
> Bottom line..... why was DOS ever born anyway??

IBM really wanted CP/M, but Gary Kildall of Digital
Research decided to go flying in his plane when
IBM came to call. CP/M had a lot of apps available,
like WP (WordStar, Perfect Writer), spreadsheets,
DBase II and Turbo Pascal, and C compilers (BDS, etc),
as well as MS-BASIC and C-BASIC. DR later did GEM
and DR-DOS, which Caldera now owns (and is the
subject of lawsuit against MS).

When IBM met with Gates, he told them he could do CP/M
(I think IBM was unclear as to who owned CP/M and it's
not likely Gates enlightened them).  Gates then
"acquired" (putting it politely) an x88/x86 clone
of CP/M  from Seattle Computer Works - Tim Patterson
later sued MS and won on some misappropriation of IP
basis, but I'm not sure of the details.

Somebody (I don't know who) added some Unix like stuff
to CP/M (the tree directory structure, for example), but
basically PCDOS 1.0 was a ripoff of CP/M, in addition to
doing stupid things like using the Intel reserved 
interrupts for DOS ints instead. I believe PCDOS 1.0
even included a mechanism to duplicate CP/M's 'call 5',
in addition to int 21 for system services, as well
as retaining the CP/M PSP structure and command line
parsing, and compatible calls, so that software could 
be mechanically ported (in theory - I'm not sure this 
ever worked in practice).

CP/M for those who don't remember was an OS designed
for 8080/Z80 based 8 bit systems, and I think was the
first OS seperated into a BIOS and BDOS (Basic Disk OS)
to make it possible to run on a variety of hardware. 

Cringely's book ("Accidental Empires") and another called
"Fire in the Valley" have more details.

One comment I remember from Killdall was to ask Gates
why a certain system call returned a '$' - there was
no apparent reason for it to do so in the code, but
MS/PC-DOS did it just like CP/M did.

Arthur

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From: somebody <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 09:14:45 -0700

> Bill Gates is indeed a genius.  Bill Gates is THE Man, if I could be like
> anybody when I 'grow up', it would be Bill.

i guess it is good to have goals.  too bad yours are misdirected.

> Bill Gates is the Ultimate Businessman.

he has manipulated the inside track from the beginning.   his mom
secured the dos deal for him.

>   Now then Bill Gates came away from Harvard with infinitely more business

bill never graduated.  he was a no-talent rich kid who hired all the
talented kids.  he went to all the best schools but flopped.  he got
ahead by lying, cheating, & stealing.

> Now...Windows blows, we all know it(I have a split-partition so I can play
> games, and not much else with Windows).  

you said it all.

> Linux However, cannot be stopped in normal business terms.

yep.

> Linux cannot win out over all, though, and this is where MS comes in.(It's
> either MS or Apple, folks..or maybe OS/2, but OS/2 takes a little bit of

Be, Acorn, Corel, Cygnus, IBM, Sun, HP, ...

> Linux will never be popular among most computer users

probably.   but it will inevitably become the backbone of all computing
and information traffic.  why fight it?  your tax dollars have been
spent for much of the research that is ending up in linux.

> because thanks to MS, 90% of computer users are people who should never have
> been allowed to buy them in the first place.  Thanks to Bill Gates' Business
> Saavvy(SP?), he will always have a market with them by playing 'hey, we're
> normal people doing this' and feelgood commercials set to Rolling Stones
> music.

????  everyone will wear a computer someday. (sooner than later)  most
already wear an ic based watch or have an electronic organizer.

> Start that paragraph over...Linux cannot win out as the premiere OS, because
> it requires a bit of thought and effort to use it.  Linux is where DOS was
> before Windows 3.0 came out(Socially speaking, that is) it's still for the
> 'geeks'.  It is beyond the Common User.

ignorance.  you can't compare linux w/ ms crap.  diesel v. unleaded.
linux will win.  as sure as you don't have to pay for the air you
breathe.

> Let it stay there.  Let Windows have their market...in reality, Linux doesn't
> even begin to threaten it, because 90% of MS users would die if they couldn't
> install and configure it with a mouse, and call a toll number and be put on
> hold for several hours while the MS Tech support guy looks up the answer to a
> yes-or-no question.  If Linux ever did win out as the Common Man's OS, how
> bad do you think it would have become?  Each version of Windows was dumbed
> down from the last, do you really want Linux to be dumbed down enough to beat
> any version of MS Windows?

there will always be alternatives.   RISCOS & BeOS (newcomers) are
already making a stand in user friendly markets.  how many more do you
think there will be?  users aren't as dumb as you suspect.  yes, there
is a learning curve.  but, once over it, no worries.   people are alreay
use to nonstandard interfaces (different looking) - ATMs, phones, gas
stations w/ credit cards.. etc

linux evolves logically.  it doesn't add features just to make a sell. 
linux will not be dumbed down.   as new techniques arrive through
research at universities and companies, linux will incorporate them.

and, yes, there are linux techs that you can call on an 800 number.

linux will be common but not necessarily for the common man.

i can sleep well at night knowing that information will always be free.

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From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Boot problem
Date: 13 Jan 1999 16:52:04 -0800

"Theo van der Merwe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I have a problem booting Redhat Linux - the message "VMS.. mounting ext2
> read only" comes up, but with no further progress. I have tried booting of a
> supplemental disk (using RAWRITE with supp.img) and can mount it using
> mount -t ext2 /dev/hda1 /mnt. Next I tried /mnt/usr/sbin/fsck but with the
> error message: /etc/fstab file not found.
> I have the following questions:
> 
> 1) How do I mount the root with read write (the man pages seemed to mention
> this as a solution) into /? The command line switches -o rw doesn't seem to
> work (mount -h just says mount -t fs...).
> 
> 2) How do I use fsck to check and fix my root partition?
> 
> 3) How do I create a boot disk for Linux?
> 
> 4 Would fsck solve my problem or should I try something else?

I'm not an expert, but...

The hard disk is first mounted read-only during boot, so don't
go down that road.  Why aren't you booting?  Some LILO problem,
most likely, or badly built kernel; occasionally something 
real bad like hardware.

The fsck program is usually used on an unmounted partition,
so ro/rw isn't an issue.  Doesn't hurt to try it, although
without certain options, it may give you a fixed disk with
broken files put in <mount-point>/lost+found.

tomsrtbt is a nice rescue disk. Download from link found in
Gary's Encylopedia at 

http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/distributions.html

Make a boot disk:

cat <kernel-file> >/dev/fd0H1440   [ or whatever ]
rdev /dev/fd0H1440 /dev/<hard-disk-root-partition-id>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: newest devel kernel 2.3.0?
Date: 14 Jan 1999 01:17:53 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 12 Jan 1999 21:33:58 -0500, Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne) writes:
>> On 06 Jan 1999 20:53:05 -0500, Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >where is the newest devel kernel 2.3.0?  i see 2.2.0pre4 is out but
>> >where do i go for the bleeding edge?
>> 
>> You won't find it until there is a "2.2.0" version that omits the "pre"
>> stuff.
>> 
>> In effect, 2.2.0pre[most-recent] *is* the "bleeding edge" right
>> now. 
>
>some bleeding edge.  i haven't been oopsed by it.  i haven't had it
>trash my filesystem.  it hasn't frozen or deadlock or any of a number
>of things i've come to want in a devel kernel.  i guess for that i'll
>just have to go back to the masters, microsoft.

All pretty fair...

The point is that the "kernelmeisters" are working right now to
stabilize 2.2.0. 

Once they have that major release out, they can move on to 2.3.0, and
start getting things to break again :-). 

-- 
'Mounten' wird fuer drei Dinge benutzt: 'Aufsitzen' auf Pferde,
'einklinken' von Festplatten in Dateisysteme, und, nun, 'besteigen'
beim Sex. (Christa Keil in a German posting: "Mounting is used for
three things: climbing on a horse, linking in a hard disk unit in file
systems, and, well, mounting during sex".)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>

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From: Chris Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 20:22:30 -0500

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   Con Tiki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Linux will never be popular among most computer users
> > >
> 
> That's a great one-line to pull out of that post, you don't work for a
> Newspaper or News station, do you?
> 
> >  And I can safely say that windows never will either.
> >
> >
> 
> Windows IS popular among most computer users.  If it wasn't, it wouldn't be
> the top of the commercial OS heap.  But as I explained in my previous post,
> thanks to Bill G., most computer users now are spoon-fed dorks who can't even
> read the instructions printed on the VCR about how to set their clocks.
> People who can't read that Compact Disk Logo that is printed on the front of
> their CD-Roms, and think that the retractable tray is like their car's coffee
> cup holder, and in all reality have no business using computers.
> 
> Mike
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Let's be realistic here.  MS didn't create stupid users.  They existed
already.  Windows et al made computers so common, everyone seems to have
one.  That's why you see so many clueless users.  It's like making cars
accessable to everyone, you're bound to uncover people who can't drive
at all.  Some people just don't have any sense whatsoever.

Chris

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From: "Mario Amaral" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: New to Linux
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:08:01 -0000

Hi Everyone!

I am new to Linux (i've been using OS/2, NT and...VMS), and i would like to
understand the diference between KDE, CDE, AfterStep. Wich is the best one,
can i run the same aplications in all of them (especially Staroffice)?

Many thanks.

By the way, i have a Creative Labs TNT AGP video card.

Mario Amaral
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 18:20:21 +0100
From: Peter Cedermark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.

WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! FLAMEBAIT - DO NOT RESPOND
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> In article <76tk66$gf4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Alot of people wrote:  Linux Rules, Linux Sux, Linux will win, MS will win.
> 
> Well, I skipped most of them because I've been spending the last week getting
> situated in school for my first semester here, and I don't care to read 300
> posts that effectively can be summed up in the second line of this post.
> 
> I will have my say on the subject though.(and most of it may have been said
> already)
> 
> Bill Gates is indeed a genius.  Bill Gates is THE Man, if I could be like
> anybody when I 'grow up', it would be Bill.
> 
> Bill Gates is the Ultimate Businessman.  Period, you cannot argue that
> point(well, maybe you can point out some other businessmen who were better.)
> Anyone who makes in the billions by selling Windows to the world like he did
> cannot be beaten in business.  Windows is the ultimate in commercial
> software. You MUST have it.  In order to use the latest software for
> computers today, you must have it.  Never has so much demand for one man's
> product been so great in the history of the world.  Only a Genius could have
> pulled that off.
> 
>   Now then Bill Gates came away from Harvard with infinitely more business
> sense than computer sense, as nothing he's written has been original or even
> better than average, and nothing his company has written has improved over
> the previous versions.  (Who found Dos 3.2 difficult to configure?  Yeah
> there were the Memory limitations, but it wasn't difficult to configure new
> hardware, or new software, unless you had Memory hog Software, which ten
> years ago was what, 512k?)  And yet he's managed to sell SHIT for ten years
> straight, and lead the Market doing it.  As I said, the man is a Genius.
> 
> Now...Windows blows, we all know it(I have a split-partition so I can play
> games, and not much else with Windows).  Windows leads the market, we all know
> that too.  Deal with it, Windows will only be 'king' as long as there is a
> market for it, once people stop spending money on it, Windows will
> crash(Well..Windows crashing is a given, but I mean in a Business Market.)
> Windows can be stopped when people stop buying it.
> 
> Linux However, cannot be stopped in normal business terms.  Redhat?  Yes.
> SUSE? Yes.  Other commercial versions?  Yes.  But Linux itself isn't
> commercial, and cannot be crushed by an inferior commercial product, or a
> company that relies 100% on the sale of its products to survive.  So, how can
> Microsoft possibly make Linux fight for survival?
> 
> Linux cannot win out over all, though, and this is where MS comes in.(It's
> either MS or Apple, folks..or maybe OS/2, but OS/2 takes a little bit of
> thought and effort to install and use).  MS shovels shit to the lowest common
> denomonator.  The Folks that sent their first E-mail through AOL, and think
> they were soooo Cyberpunk, the folks that had trouble when their 'coffee cup
> holder' couldn't support the weight of their coffee mug, or people who think
> that a Virus is going to be GUI and announce itself before it hits them, or
> the people who buy the latest and greatest and fastest computers, most
> expensive so that their kids can do 'homework' using that great Grolier
> Multimedia Encyclopedia, (which had what..maybe 1k of actual information per
> topic, and millions of wasted k on grainy pictures and half-second sound
> bites?  God, I'm glad I didn't pay for that disk).
> 
> Linux will never be popular among most computer users
> 
> because thanks to MS, 90% of computer users are people who should never have
> been allowed to buy them in the first place.  Thanks to Bill Gates' Business
> Saavvy(SP?), he will always have a market with them by playing 'hey, we're
> normal people doing this' and feelgood commercials set to Rolling Stones
> music.
> 
> Start that paragraph over...Linux cannot win out as the premiere OS, because
> it requires a bit of thought and effort to use it.  Linux is where DOS was
> before Windows 3.0 came out(Socially speaking, that is) it's still for the
> 'geeks'.  It is beyond the Common User.
> 
> Let it stay there.  Let Windows have their market...in reality, Linux doesn't
> even begin to threaten it, because 90% of MS users would die if they couldn't
> install and configure it with a mouse, and call a toll number and be put on
> hold for several hours while the MS Tech support guy looks up the answer to a
> yes-or-no question.  If Linux ever did win out as the Common Man's OS, how
> bad do you think it would have become?  Each version of Windows was dumbed
> down from the last, do you really want Linux to be dumbed down enough to beat
> any version of MS Windows?
> 
> Mike
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>                                           I
> I'll tell you where you can go today.   ,nInn
>                                         \\V//
> 
> All I can say is, damn it's hard to do a three line ascii middle finger.:P
> 
> -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
> http://www.dejanews.com/       Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own

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From: d s f o x @ c o g s c i . u c s d . e d u (David Fox)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable,linux.redhat.misc,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Resolution, Monitors, Other stuff Help needed please
Date: 13 Jan 1999 17:01:10 -0800

Dela Lovecraft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> If you want to start X with the same amount of colours all the time (eg
> 24 bit), then make a file .xserverrc in your home dir, and type the
> following line at the top
> 
> exec X :0 -bpp 24
> 
> From then on, you should have 24 bit-planes whenever you start X.
> 
> Oh, and make sure the X is in capitals!!

Or you can put "DefaultColorDepth 16" in the Screen section
of your XF86Config file.
-- 
David Fox           http://hci.ucsd.edu/dsf             xoF divaD
UCSD HCI Lab                                         baL ICH DSCU

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From: Francesc Guasch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kde and ppp problems
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:43:12 +0100

Peter Polman wrote:
> 
> Francesc Guasch wrote:
> 
> > Since I installed kde I cannot connect through ppp.
> > The connections starts and the modem hungs in a minute.
> > When kde isn't loaded ppp connects fine.
> > What's up ?
>
> Have you tried using the KDE native app "kppp" ? I had no problems
> getting it to work first time.

I will try. But .. anyway ...
The fact is with kde loaded I cannot use my ppp connection.
When kde is not loaded I CAN !
I don't see why kde breaks my network ppp. And I don't like
it at all. There must be a reason ? Is that only a bug ?
I haven't used xwindows without kde, is that an xwindows
issue ? I got xfree-3.1.2.

-- 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]       http://www.etsetb.upc.es/~frankie
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 o o _     )             Errors, like straws, upon the surface flow;
  Y (_, (__(Ssss     He who would search for pearls must dive below.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eugene O'Neil)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ...
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 99 16:38:49 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Juho Cederstrom 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>PalmII@ .com (soume yoeung guih) wrote:
>> Linus is such a pansy mother fucker. He needs real balls like bill
>
>How much does BillG pay you ?

I am so sick of people who accuse everyone of being on the Microsoft payroll, 
as if it was some magical way to win every argument. It is a particularly 
inappropriate thing to say in this case: you are only flattering this troll by 
implying that he is smart enough to be a Microsoft employee, and the garbage 
he writes is actually worth money. If Microsoft really is paying people to 
bad-mouth Linux, I would think they could afford better talent. 

Trolls like this should not be dignified with any response at all, but if 
you're going to do it at least attack their arguments based on their actual 
merits, or complete lack of them. Using a cheap all-purpose ploy like the 
"Microsoft payroll" trick only makes it look like you don't have anything more 
substantial to hit them with. If there is anything on usenet more pathetic 
than a troll, it is people who let trolls get the best of them.

-Eugene

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From: "Anthony Valentine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Colours
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:25:24 -0900

On my system, this:
dircolors -b ~/.dir_colors >> ~/.bashrc

should be:
dircolors -b /etc/DIR_COLORS >> ~/.bashrc

so if the first doesn't work on your system, try the second one.

Anthony Valentine


R.A. Wilson wrote in message ...
>
>
>>     I used to run a Debian system (which someone else set up for me),
>> but now I've got RedHat 5.2 that I set up myself. There was a lovely
>> little feature in my Debian setup which made different filetypes appear
>> in different colours, can anyone tell me how to do this under RedHat?
>=========================================================================
>
>
>USING DIR_COLORS IN REDHAT.....
>
>copy /etc/DIR_COLORS to youe home directory as .dir_colors
>
>Use your favorite text editor to modify .dir_colors to suit
>your taste for colors.
>
>In your "~/.bashrc"  set an alias:
>
>alias ls='ls --color'
>alias lv='ls --color -la'
>
>Then run the following command from the prompt:
>
>dircolors -b ~/.dir_colors >> ~/.bashrc
>
>This will export the Bourne shell compatable code to set the environment
>variable for LS_COLORS, and add it to your bash initialization files.
>
>Now, close your open shells and reopen them.
>
>
> r.a.wilson
>=======================================================================
>
>
>
>



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From: Ian Hay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 3C905B Ethernet board
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 19:18:37 -0500

dumais wrote:
> 
> Could anybody out there tell me if the subject board is
> 
> supported by Linux.  I am having trouble with RH5.1, Linux
> 
> Kernel 2.0.34 recognizing this board.  When I try to run

Have you checked the RedHat hardware compatability list?  If you find it
(www.redhat.com) you'll find the following sentences:

The following Ethernet adapters are supported at Tier 1.
- 3Com 3c59x,3c900,3c905 NOT THE 3c905b

[Or, in case you mistyped the "9" and "5"s:]

The following Ethernet adapters are supported at Tier 2.
- 3Com 3c503,3c509B,3c579 (uses 3c509 driver)

I.
-- 
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Ian R. Hay                 <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Toronto, Canada      <http://www3.sympatico.ca/ian.hay/>
***  Update -- visit my swanky, re-designed webpage  ***
Linuxing about since June 21, 1998 <Redhat 5.1 - 2.0.35> 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ulrich Teichert)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.help
Subject: Re: What happened to blackdown.org (Java-Linux porting project?)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 19:33:31 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Stefan Zeiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>Mike Werner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> I just went and looked and http://www.blackdown.org/java-linux.html went
>> to the Java Linux page.  Perhaps it was temporarily down when you
>> checked?

>I tried to access that URL when I first read in this group that
>it's not available anymore. I could not access it. I just tried
>it again and it still is not available.

I checked it right now and it's OK.

a traceroute:

traceroute to www.blackdown.org (208.24.141.88), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
[del]
13  146.ATM2-0.XR2.NYC4.ALTER.NET (146.188.179.174)  382.478 ms  301.001 ms  367.816 ms
14  * 288.ATM3-0.TR2.EWR1.ALTER.NET (146.188.179.78)  569.125 ms  458.855 ms
15  105.ATM6-0.TR2.DFW4.ALTER.NET (146.188.136.245)  819.734 ms *  399.76 ms
16  * 198.ATM7-0.XR2.DFW4.ALTER.NET (146.188.240.69)  290.021 ms *
17  194.ATM1-0-0.HR1.DFW1.ALTER.NET (146.188.240.5)  299.994 ms  321.327 ms *
18  108.Hssi2-0-0.GW1.AUS1.Alter.Net (137.39.31.158)  700.058 ms * *
19  smartdna-gw.customer.ALTER.NET (157.130.128.82)  300.009 ms  299.078 ms  309.875 ms
20  symbio-ip1.smart-nap.net (208.21.254.162)  309.85 ms  299.194 ms  299.836 ms
21  192.168.0.133 (192.168.0.133)  329.851 ms  349.421 ms  349.76 ms
22  ikea.cabi.net (208.24.141.88)  350.038 ms  349.172 ms  369.783 ms

A nslookup:

arbas:~> nslookup 
Default Server:  localhost
Address:  127.0.0.1

> www.blackdown.org
Server:  localhost
Address:  127.0.0.1

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:    www.blackdown.org
Address:  208.24.141.88


So, I think you should check first *what* IP your DNS server gives
to you for www.blackdown.org.

HTH,
Uli
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From: Mr. Belod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problem with Scsi Zip
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:59:32 GMT

I am trying to install an external scsi Zip drive.

I have a scsi controller (buslogic) that I installed
successfully with aha1542.
I also have an external scsi Zip drive that have its
own scsi card. 
I tried to install this additional peripheral with
insmod aha152x aha152x=0x340,10,7,1
When I do this, I can access the data on the
Zip drive with a successful mount typed in
a terminal window. But if I try to open the 
file system manager, the file system manager
window hangs. So I exit AfterStep and then 
in line mode I can see a bunch of:
"Sending DID_RESET for target 0" messages

I know, it appears that my buslogic thing is
fighting the aha154x driver thing ...

I went through the newgroups old messages
for an answer, I tried adding to lilo.conf
which by the way is on a boot disquette (that's 
what I prefer):
append = "buslogic=0x130"  <---- no success
or
append = "buslogic=noprobe" <---- no success
or
append = "buslogic=TQ:disable" <---- no success

Anyone has a suggestion that I can try, I would
really appreciate.

Thanks

P.S.
I have Redhat 5.1 with kernel 2.0.36
I have a scsi controller with buslogic bios,
scsi cdrom Plextor 4x, scsi sb16, scsi hard drive
seagate 4.3.

Doing lsmod gives:
sb                 6            0
uart401            2    [sb]    0
ppp                5            0
slhc               2    [ppp]   0
isofs              5            0
sound             16    [sb uart401]    0 (autoclean)
aha1542            3            0
Module         Pages    Used by


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