Linux-Misc Digest #815, Volume #24               Wed, 14 Jun 00 15:13:05 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Using tcpdump in Linux ("David ..")
  Xserver help (BadAccess error) (Arul)
  Re: environment variable (Mark Guzzo)
  Re: Using tcpdump in Linux (Gernot Fink)
  Re: Kernel loadable modules... (John Thompson)
  arrow mailer and pgp v6 (John Thompson)
  GnomeICU: incompatible widget (S P Arif Sahari Wibowo)
  Re: how to import outlook mail into netscape mail? (Alex Loew)
  Re: Detaching users from /etc/passwd (Floyd Davidson)
  Re: Samba problems ("Thomas Winberg")
  Re: New Linux user needs a better browser (David Steuber)
  Re: [still unanswered]Re: platform identification (David Steuber)
  compaq dl380 & rh62 scsi woes ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  The scout vs. the wraith (Steve Wolter)
  Re: Xserver help (BadAccess error) (Dances With Crows)
  Re: environment variable (Alex Chudnovsky)
  Re: Want consolelogin instead of GUI?! (Alex Chudnovsky)

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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Using tcpdump in Linux
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:16:54 -0500

Sasha wrote:
> 
> Hi  all
> 
> I have a Linux machine (standalone,  i am not connected to any other
> computer). I want to use  tcpdump to dump the packet i am sending from my
> client-server program.
> 
> i am using ( tcpdump host localhost ), but not getting any answer only
>  listening
> on eth0 ).  i have also used tcpdump port portnumber and some other
> combinations, but
> getting the same answer listening on eth0,  Without any results.
> 
> Dos it means, tcpdump only works when I am sending  some packet out of my
> computer ? or I should use some other parameter and combination.
> 
> I want be able to read the packet  header i am sending in my client-server
> program in a specefic port. i dont know why it is not working.
> 

/usr/sbin/tcpdump -i eth0 -a

-- 
Registered with the Linux Counter.  http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538

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From: Arul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Xserver help (BadAccess error)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 17:19:57 GMT

Hello,

I am running a remote X client on my local X server (XFree 3.3.6) on my
SuZe linux 6.1 and getting an X error.

The remote client tries to grab mouse button which my X server
does not allow.

Is there any way to tell my X server to allow this (like
startup option or XF86Config parameters).

Wed Jun 14 12:14:09 2000: ProCtool: Session started
X Error of failed request:  BadAccess (attempt to access private
resource denied)
  Major opcode of failed request:  28 (X_GrabButton)
  Serial number of failed request:  1849
  Current serial number in output stream:  1850

Thanks in advance.


-Arul


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From: Mark Guzzo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: environment variable
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:43:44 -0500

Dances With Crows wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 09:30:23 -0500, Mark Guzzo
> <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
> >What is an environment variable, how do I find out what they are set to
> >and how would I change them ?
> 
> An environment variable is a variable that your shell knows about.
> Examples include EDITOR, PS1, HOME, PATH, and a host of others.  You find
> out what they are set to by entering "printenv" or "set", and you change
> them by doing:
> 
> export VARIABLE=value      (sh, bash)
> set VARIABLE value         (tcsh, ksh)
> 
> --
> Matt G / Dances With Crows      /\    "Man could not stare too long at the face
> \----[this space for rent]-----/  \   of the Computer or her children and still
>  \There is no Darkness in Eternity \  remain as Man." --David Zindell  "Online
> But only Light too dim for us to see\ gender bending going too far?" --/me
Thanks for the info :-)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gernot Fink)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Using tcpdump in Linux
Date: 14 Jun 2000 17:44:30 GMT

In article <muM15.8623$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        "Sasha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi  all
> 
> I have a Linux machine (standalone,  i am not connected to any other
> computer). I want to use  tcpdump to dump the packet i am sending from my
> client-server program.
> 
> i am using ( tcpdump host localhost ), but not getting any answer only
>  listening
> on eth0 ).  i have also used tcpdump port portnumber and some other
> combinations, but
> getting the same answer listening on eth0,  Without any results.

try tcpdump -i lo


> 
> Dos it means, tcpdump only works when I am sending  some packet out of my
> computer ? or I should use some other parameter and combination.
> 
> I want be able to read the packet  header i am sending in my client-server
> program in a specefic port. i dont know why it is not working.
> 
> Thanks in advance   Sasha
> 
> 
> 
> 

-- 
MFG G.Fink

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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Kernel loadable modules...
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 11:52:44 -0500

John Gluck wrote:

> I find it difficult to understand this concept of drivers for hardware being
> "intellectual property".
> The whole point behind providing a driver is to sell hardware. The more
> operating systems a manufacturere's hardware can be used with, the more
> hardware they can sell.

Agreed.

> Spreading around the knowledge of how to write drivers for a particular rodent
> or camera means that the manufacturer gets free development and a larger
> market. This translates to dollars on their bottom line.
> Unfortunately, there are braindead individuals in the marketing departments who
> feel that making available information about registers and such will allow
> competitors to copy their hardware. The logic of this escapes me. Anyone who
> wants to copy your hardware will take it apart and figure out what makes it
> tick.

I suspect the manufacturers are worried that if they provide
driver specifications to develop software for other platforms
they will be expected to support those other platforms. Windows
is a known commodity: you can hire anyone off the street to tell
your customers to reboot and reinstall when they run into
problems.  But users of other platforms may not be satisfied with
this approach and insist on real support from trained staff.  And
that costs money.

-- 

-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: arrow mailer and pgp v6
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:20:14 -0500

I've been using the "arrow" mailer (v1.08) for some time and find
it rather nice.  Recently I updated my PGP installation from v5
to v6 and now find arrow will no longer launch.  A look at the
process list shows that arrow is launching a pgp process
(presumably to check my keys and such) and gets hung at this step
and will not proceed until I "kill -9" the pgp process.  As arrow
supports GPG in addition to PGP, thought prehaps by changing the
specified encryption program to GPG might help.  It doesn't. 
Arrow still launches a "pgp -kv" session and hangs when it
starts.  If I revert to PGP v5, it will work, but I've never been
particularly fond of that version of PGP and would prefer to stay
with v6 for the familiar command line interface.

Any ideas?

-- 

-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: S P Arif Sahari Wibowo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: GnomeICU: incompatible widget
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 13:14:05 -0500

Hi!

I tried the newest GnomeICU, version 0.93. Since I have RedHat 6.0, I use
the RPM version gnomeicu-0.93-1.i386.rpm. However, on installation it gave
this error:

Gtk-WARNING **: gtk_signal_connect(): could not find signal
"change_pixel_size" in the `AppletWidget' class ancestry
gnomeicu: error in loading shared libraries: gnomeicu: undefined
symbol: applet_widget_get_panel_pixel_size

If I am not wrong, this was because I still use the gnome-core 1.0, not
the development version, right?

BTW, the last version for gnome-core 1.0, gnomeicu-0.92-2.i386.rpm gave
this error on 'Add Contact':

gnomeicu: error in loading shared libraries: gnomeicu: undefined
symbol: gnome_druid_new

Any idea?

TIA!

-- 
                                   S P Arif Sahari Wibowo
  _____  _____  _____  _____ 
 /____  /____/ /____/ /____          [EMAIL PROTECTED]
_____/ /      /    / _____/       http://www.arifsaha.com/


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Loew)
Subject: Re: how to import outlook mail into netscape mail?
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 18:12:48 GMT

On Fri, 09 Jun 2000 13:31:32 +0200, Jonas Bieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>does anybody know if and how i can import outlook express 5.0 mails into
>linux netscape messenger 4.73?
Why don't you export it to ASCII (tab delimeted). But I don't know how
to import it to Netscape.

Alex

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From: Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Detaching users from /etc/passwd
Date: 14 Jun 2000 09:59:05 -0800

Dirk Freese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Dear Floyd,
>
>> Yes, leave it in /etc/passwd!  Do use shadow password files though.
>
>Oh, I do that! ;-)
>
>> There really won't be a problem for quit a while at that size,
>> as several thousands of users is not excessive.  I'm not sure
>> what the your definition of "unreadable" is though.  If you mean
>> human readable...  it doesn't need to be.
>
>No it does not need to be human readable. The problem is, we want to
>develop a frontend so that everyone who works with us can easily add new
>mail-users.
>I simply don't like the idea of everyone being able to run-owned processes.
>So it would be neat to authenticate using mySQL or anything.

The only way to add users is from a root account.  Hence whoever is
authorized to do that will have to access root in some way.  You
can set up a different account that can access a "newuser" program
which is setuid to root, or you can use "sudo" to provide access to
"newuser".  (Or of course that user can have full access to root.)

I haven't looked at the user creation facilities on Linux for
several years, so I'm not sure what is available.  The usual
thing is that someone writes a system specific "newuser" that
fits the local configuration.  It's been 5-6 years since I
have done that, and it ran on a BSDI system not Linux.  If you
start with almost any of the available "newuser" programs you'll
find all of the obvious and maybe a few not so obvious things that
need to be considered are already built in (things like locking
the /etc/passwd file while you modify it).

>> I guess the question is what kind of a problem do you actually
>> have if it grows larger?  There is probably another way to solve
>> that without trying to split up the /etc/passwd file.
>
>There surely is. I could use WebMin or anything, but that would mean to
>keep things exctly like they are without much flexibility to change the
>system-configuration.

I'm not familiar with WebMin, so can't comment.

>Thanks for reply, Floyd!

Well, food for thought anyway, but not really very helpful... ;-(

  Floyd

-- 
Floyd L. Davidson                          [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)

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From: "Thomas Winberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Samba problems
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 18:51:50 GMT

Are you also using the option to encrypt the passwords?

> Give this a try in the smb.conf
>
> unix password sync = Yes
> passwd progrram = /usr/bin/passwd %u
> passwd chat = *new*password* %n\n *new*password* %n\n *successfully*
>
> It works for me.
>
>
>



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Subject: Re: New Linux user needs a better browser
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 18:59:59 GMT

"David R. Klassen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

' [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
' > 
' > There are many (most? I hope not) sites out there which are designed
' > to ONLY work with IE-5, or work best with IE-5.  Unless the owners of
' Yes - many of the M$ support sites use that crap .asp style of web
' page that does some kind of programming call so that the page is
' entirely blank in Netscape.  I guess this is why they "have" to bundle
' M$IE with WinXX.

You only have to leave out a </table> tag to make a page blank under
Netscape.

What offends me is the use of Flash, Shockwave, and other shit that
requires a plug-in that may not be available for Linux.  Actually, I
don't care if the plug-in is available.  I don't want to download and
install some executable code to get a page to work.

-- 
David Steuber   |   Hi!  My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member      |   a hoploholic.

All bits are significant.  Some bits are more significant than others.
        -- Charles Babbage Orwell

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Subject: Re: [still unanswered]Re: platform identification
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 18:59:59 GMT

Prashant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

' maybe I should clarify. What if I remotely access a m/c and want to know
' whether it's Dell or Compaq or Hp or what? I know that www.dell.com comes
' up at startup, but will be a bmp not a string stored somewhere (bios), so
' that doesn't really help if I want my program to find out without me
' having to look at the bmp(or the box even ;-)
' makes the problem *considerably* more difficult, I am sure someone on this
' mailing list has a better idea, so please help me...
' thanks,

I don't think it can be done.  Not unless you own the box in question
and want to setup finger to tell you.

Are you talking about something like the 'Server' header that HTTP
servers send?

-- 
David Steuber   |   Hi!  My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member      |   a hoploholic.

All bits are significant.  Some bits are more significant than others.
        -- Charles Babbage Orwell

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware.
Subject: compaq dl380 & rh62 scsi woes
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 18:54:40 GMT

Compaq - Linux folks,

Has anybody had any luck using non-disk array scsi devices such as dat
tape drives with a compaq dl380 and redhat 6.2? I have a great running
dual processor machine running raid 5 that I cannot backup.  My 20-40gb
dat internal drive is found on the probe at power up, but is gone after
the linux boot completes.  I have tried turning on every ncr and
symbios scsi option in the kernel.  The motherboard scsi chip is a lsil
1510.  I have tried 2.2.12 to 2.2.16 with no luck.

Thanks


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From: Steve Wolter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: The scout vs. the wraith
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 21:02:56 +0200

Well, about these two units is not much to say; they have both well 
defined uses, namely air combat.

Here are their statistics:
Name    Size    Support Min.    Gas     Armor   HP      SP      Gr.Att. Air Att.Cool   
         Range   Sight   Build time
Scout   L       3       300     150     0       150     100     8       28e     
30Gnd/22Air     4       8/10    80
Wraith  L       2       150     100     0       120             8       20e     
30Gnd/22Air     5       7       60

(Sorry for that long line)

As you may have noticed, you get 2 wraiths for 1 scout approximately.
In that comparison, the protoss player uses up 1 supply less and has 
50 gas on his hands, and with a ratio of 3 wraiths to 2 scouts the 
terran player has extra 150 minerals.

Usually, the limiting factor decides which side is winning. If it is 
the gas, the protoss is better; if minerals are low, terran will win the 
air war.

The wraith range is slightly larger, but that difference usually doesn't 
make the win between these fast air units. As i mention fast: After upgrade,
 the scout has the same speed like the wraith (and the corsair), but before,
 the scout will crawl after them the whole time.

Well, what advances has the scout? He has the slightly better vision, but 
in combat, that doesn't count. He can't cloak, and he can't do the same 
damage to ground units as the wraith; his only advantages are the low gas 
usage and the especially low building time.

So, this fight is like dragoon versus hydralisk: The one has more HPs, 
the other one deals more damage.

Overall, this match is pretty even. In regard to upgrades, you should dig 
a grave for your scouts: You have to pay an endless amount of money to 
upgrade the shields and the armor, while the terran needs only a single 
upgrade for much less money.

Generally, these both units fight in late game, when upgrades are already 
made, and against the capital ships; the other fights are made by the 
corsair 
and the valkyrie.

Generally, in old SC was a closed circle of domination:

The interceptor class is stronger then the capital ships.
The mutalisk is stronger than the interceptor class.
The capital ships are stronger than the mutalisk.

Now here comes the new area destruction of the valkyrie and the corsair:

The interceptor class is stronger than the capital ship class.
The mutalisk is stronger than the interceptor class.
The area destruction class is stronger than the mutalisk and the interceptor class.
The capital ship class is stronger than the mutalisk and the area destruction class.

What means that? With the corsair and the valkyrie (well, as soon as 
sprite bug is corrected) the carrier and the BC gained more power, 
because they are the only air counter versus these units.
And here isn't involved the devourer; here is hard to say what 
effects these units will have.

As a conclusion, I would say the wraith is generally better.
The scout has only three advantages: High sight and high HP with
relatively low gas costs.
--
Steve Wolter
ICQ: 58652584

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Xserver help (BadAccess error)
Date: 14 Jun 2000 15:03:41 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 17:19:57 GMT, Arul 
<<8i8era$5s2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>The remote client tries to grab mouse button which my X server
>does not allow.
>
>Is there any way to tell my X server to allow this (like
>startup option or XF86Config parameters).
[snip]

I had a look through the man page for XF86Config, and found two options:

AllowNonLocalModInDev        (put this in the ServerFlags section)
AlwaysCore 1                 (put this in the Mouse section)

one or both of those may be what you want.  However, your client program
may be doing something stupid--I've run a lot of X clients on remote
servers, and never had this problem.  What is the name of the client here,
and which X server are you using?  (SVGA, Mach64, S3...)  Also,
comp.os.linux.x may be a better place; the X gurus hang out there.

-- 
Matt G / Dances With Crows      /\    "Man could not stare too long at the face
\----[this space for rent]-----/  \   of the Computer or her children and still
 \There is no Darkness in Eternity \  remain as Man." --David Zindell  "Online
But only Light too dim for us to see\ gender bending going too far?" --/me

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From: Alex Chudnovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: environment variable
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 19:49:34 GMT



>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 6/14/00, 4:30:23 PM, Mark Guzzo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote =

regarding environment variable:


> Hello,

> Question:
> What is an environment variable, how do I find out what they are set t=
o
> and how would I change them ?

> Mark

Try to execute the following commands :=20

man set
man env=20
man export
man declare
set
env

Read what you see.
All of those are about the environment variables

Regards,
Alex Chudnovsky
e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ : 35559910

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From: Alex Chudnovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Want consolelogin instead of GUI?!
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 19:59:16 GMT



>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 6/14/00, 1:45:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Want=20
consolelogin instead of GUI?!:


> When I installed RedHat 6.2 I choose Autostart of login window (Gnome)=
. 
> Anyone knows how to disable it so when I boot up the computer, I will
> login, in the console-window instead of the GUI-window?!?
Edit the /etc/inittab file
Find the following line :
id:5:initdefault

Change it to be the following :=20
id:3:initdefault

Mode 5 is for graphical login
Mode 3 is for text-based login.



> I tested to disable perfdm (or what it was called?!?) then it stops in=

> the command window when starting up, but got error messages after a
> while.Something about: respawn error... disable for 5min
> Think that xfm trying to restart after disconnection or
> something.....??!?!

> Any help would be nice!  :)

How did you intend to disable prefdm ?( that's the way it's called, for =

'PREFerred Display Manager')

The reason for you to receive the 'respawning too often' error message i=
s=20
that init must re-run prefdm after same terminates.
As prefdm is disabled, it terminates instantly for obvious reasons. Now,=
=20
init is smart enough to stop trying, if the child program terminates too=
=20
quick, at least for some time - 5 min in the general case.
Hope I've been helpful
> /H
Regards,
Alex Chudnovsky
e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ : 35559910


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