Linux-Misc Digest #817, Volume #24               Wed, 14 Jun 00 20:13:03 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Want consolelogin instead of GUI?! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  getting cwnd and ssthresh values for a ftp session ("Raja")
  Re: xmms ("Stephen E. Hargrove")
  Re: ansiTime library: mktime() inconsistencies across platforms? (Robert J Carter)
  Re: semi-loss of root - what's up?? (Peter Moore)
  Re: vote on MS split-up (R.E.Ballard ( Rex Ballard ))
  Re: Read Linux partition from Win95 ? (Robie Basak)
  Re: New Linux user needs a better browser (Rick)
  NT 4.0, DOS, Linux -- Is It Worth It? (Wayne Watson)
  Re: Linux Partition: Primary or Logical? (Robert Heller)
  Re: Want consolelogin instead of GUI?! (Robert Heller)
  How-To for NT 4.0 Loader--Useful??? (Wayne Watson)
  Re: Sex Paradise is FREE !!!!!  1 ("Chris Harshman")
  Re: kernel Makefile bugs? (Paul Kimoto)
  Re: comp.os.linux.misc - to short time (OldUncleMe)
  Fdisk and dos (paul simdars)
  Re: ansiTime library: mktime() inconsistencies across platforms? (Erik Max Francis)
  fdisk \ dos (paul simdars)
  fdisk and dos (paul simdars)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Want consolelogin instead of GUI?!
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 21:46:13 GMT

 > How did you intend to disable prefdm ?( that's the way it's called,
for 'PREFerred Display Manager')

Didn't know what it controlls...  but now i know!! :)
Really Thx for the good advice.


Regards

/Hiya120


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From: "Raja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: getting cwnd and ssthresh values for a ftp session
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 22:24:19 GMT

Hello Everybody,

I am a newbie in Linux. I am doing some experiments and I need to trace the
values of cwnd and ssthresh during an ftp session. While I can get many
important information from the packets using ethereal, I am not able to get
these values from the kernel. I know it can be obtained though as I have
seen in many papers. But I am not sure how to get them. Any suggestions
would be very valuable to my research work. Thanks in advance.

Raja

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From: "Stephen E. Hargrove" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: xmms
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 17:32:39 -0500

"Andrew N. McGuire" wrote:

> Try it with your regular sound card drivers...  I had this same problem
> before, what I did to fix it was this.
>
> 1. Open xmms.
> 2. Place your cursor over xmms and press Cntrl+P.
> 3. Under the Audio I/O Plugins tab, select MPEG Layer, then click
>    'Configure' [ make sure the plugin is enabled as well ].
> 4. Try setting decoder resolution to '8 bit'.
> 5. Try playing another mp3.
>
> If the above instructions do not work, you may email me at the address
> in my signature.  The slowness you speak of is the EXACT same problem
> I had before, and the above is what I did to fix it.

Hi Andrew.  Thanks for getting back with me.  I tried the above, but it's the
same story.  I tried it with soundon and also rebooting to the kernel which has

sound compiled in.  I've set the resolution to 8 bits and alternated the sample

rate to 1:1, 1:2 and 1:4.  I'm using the OSS driver for the output plugin.  The

esound plugin moves slightly faster, but not enough to generate any sound.

Any thoughts you might have would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks!
--
Steve


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert J Carter)
Subject: Re: ansiTime library: mktime() inconsistencies across platforms?
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.portable
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 22:41:17 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        Mark Law <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 

> There are other test result diffs that follow the same pattern, where
> the pattern is for times given on the boundary of transitioning from
> daylight savings to standard time, SunOS treats tm_isdst = -1 as if its
> a "1" and the resulting time is a daylight savings time and Win NT
> treats tm_isdst = -1 as if its a "0" and the resulting time is NOT a
> daylight savings time.
> 
> Which behavior is correct?
> 
> mlaw
> 


I would tend to go with the SunOS behaviour. tm_isdst is *supposed* to
be a boolean value; non-zero is true, zero if false. The actual value
shouldn't matter.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Moore)
Subject: Re: semi-loss of root - what's up??
Date: 14 Jun 2000 22:33:10 GMT

>> > For some unknown reason, root began to refuse to be logged on to my RH
>> > 5.2 system.  I had two connection as root to each of two consoles.
>> > When I attempted to log on to a third console as root, I was told
>> > (after being certain that there were no typo's) that the password was
>> > incorrect.  It simply WAS NOT incorrect.  After some jacking around, I
>> > found that I am able to log in as myself and su to root, using the
>> > correct password, and gain root priv's.  However, I am still unable to
>> > ACTUALLY log on AS root.  What the Dickin's is going on?  While su'd to
>> > root, I was able to change the root password (ie: "passwd root , etc.
>> > etc. - all tokens successfully updated") but that didn't help.
>> > Whatever new password I assign can be used to su to root, but will not
>> > allow root, proper, to log on.  I could sure use some help.

<snip>

>Things to check  :
>1) Was the system powered down without a proper shut down?
>2) are all the binaries OK ? ( you may have to do an rpm check )
>3) Did someone mess with the system other than yourself ?

Also, you refer to a "third console."  Is this a virtual console (i.e. ctrl-alt-f3) or
a dumb terminal through a port? Assuming the first, have you made sure the console is
in /etc/securetty ?

I can tell you that this is also a sign of having been hacked. Check your system for a
directory called .reet .  In the case I dealt with, it was in /var, but I wouldn't rely
on that. Look through the logs for interesting looking messages.

Good luck,
Peter M.

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From: R.E.Ballard ( Rex Ballard ) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: vote on MS split-up
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 22:37:52 GMT

In article <8i5f99$vig$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Clear, cogent, relevant, and understandable to anyone...
>
> You're not from around here, are you?

Actually, I've posted over 20 articles a week (average) for
nearly 15 years.  I was on usenet back when we used uucp
over 1200 baud dial-ups.

My personal archive (my postings and responses to them) on
mailing lists, newsgroups, and message centers like ZDNet
total over 10,000 pages.  I keep thinking I'd like to turn
it into a book some day, but that would mean reporting on the
past when I'd rather be causing the future.

If anybody WANTS to take on the past, I'd be willing to
collaborate!

> [quote snipped to appease the SAN gods]
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
>

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I/T Architect, MIS Director
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robie Basak)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Read Linux partition from Win95 ?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 14 Jun 2000 23:27:03 GMT

On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 19:32:07 GMT, Rootman said:
>So is any single disk Linux distro too.  Once physical access of the
>machine is had then anything is up for grabs.

That's why any sensible user has floppy booting turned off and the
BIOS locked; even Windows users should do this to stop accidental
boot-sector viruses.

Robie.

>
>Note that this utility cannot look at notworked Linux paritions just
>LOCAL partitions.
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>  "Andrew E. Schulman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Check out Explore2fs  Windows 95 file browser like interface for
>Linux
>> > parititions , write enable is "experimental" but seems to work
>alright
>> > (cross my fingers).
>>
>> Sounds to me like a massive security hole.
>>
>
>
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>Before you buy.


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From: Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: New Linux user needs a better browser
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 19:33:55 -0400

muzh wrote:
> 
> Jin Rid wrote:
> >
> > hi
> > No flame intend. I am used to Internet Explorer 5.x under Windows and I find
> > the Netscape Communicator 4.7x that comes with my SuSE6.4 not as friendly
> > and can't run some of the cocoon samples well. Is there a replacement for
> > Netscape browser?
> > Regards
> 
> This older Linux user also wants a better browser!
> Netscape 6 is looking promising, although it is incomplete as yet (no
> news)
> 
> --
> Never trust a man in a suit --
> cll

... but then.. what does news reading have to do with browsing... for
news there's krn, pan, slrn... and a score of others.
-- 
Rick
To reply by email remove the obvious from my address.

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From: Wayne Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: NT 4.0, DOS, Linux -- Is It Worth It?
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:40:45 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I just purchased RedHat 6.2. I have a computer with DOS and NT 4.0 installed on it, 
and would like
to have all three available. I'm beginning to wonder if it's worth the trouble. I 
fired up the RH
install disk and eventually was confronted with a screen that asks "Where do you want 
to install
Linux?" and shows the following partitions:
hda1 500M
hda5 2G
hda6 2G
hda7 2G
hda8 1.4G

The partitions correspond to my C:, D:, E:, F:, and G: drives. DOS is on C: and NT 4.0 
is on D:.
They are all partitioned as FAT. I suspect I want to tell the install program to start 
Linux at hda6

or drive E:. I decided to call RH install support and they immediately suggested the 
NT How-To or
using Partition Magic 5.0. The How-To seems unnecessarily complex and I really don't 
want to buy
more s/w, especially if installing 6.2 with NT 4 .0 is going to be all that 
troublesome. That is,
this experience does not inspire me to believe I can do the dual (triple?) dance 
without getting
bit.

BTW, why didn't Linux refer to the above partitions as hda1,2,3, ..., etc instead of 
hda1, 5,
6...?

After pondering this for awhile and recalling that I did a similar installation with 
NT 4.0 and
Linux successfully a few years ago, I almost feel as I can push on with the install by 
simply
telling the install program to put Linux at hda6. I recall that I ended up with a Lilo 
boot, which
was fine. Eventually I got killed by creating a new NT partition beyond the Linux 
partition, and
could never boot Linux again. So for two years, I've stayed away from all this. 
However, the
computer that I'm attempting to install NT 4.0 and Linux on is not my primary 
computer, so I'm not
quite as concerned about a disaster over there.  .

Any thoughts or suggestions?

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            -- but how you played the game.
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Partition: Primary or Logical?
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 23:47:43 GMT

  Forrest Gehrke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  In a message on Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:00:07 GMT, wrote :

FG> Wouter Verhelst wrote:
FG> 
FG> > The boot loader needs to be on the MBR of the disk, which has nothing to do
FG> > with partitions and the like.
FG> >
FG> 
FG> What must I do to ensure that the boot loader is on the MBR of the disk?
FG> //

The 'boot=' option in /etc/lilo.conf should refer to a drive withOUT a
partition number:

boot=/dev/sda                   (SCSI)

OR

boot=/dev/hda                   (IDE)

When you run lilo, it will install the boot loader into the MBR of the
specified physical disk.

FG> 
FG> 
FG> 
FG>                               






                             
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Want consolelogin instead of GUI?!
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 23:47:44 GMT

  [EMAIL PROTECTED],
  In a message on Wed, 14 Jun 2000 11:45:19 GMT, wrote :

h> When I installed RedHat 6.2 I choose Autostart of login window (Gnome).
h> Anyone knows how to disable it so when I boot up the computer, I will
h> login, in the console-window instead of the GUI-window?!?

Edit /etc/inittab and set the initdefault to be 3 instead of 5:

id:3:initdefault:

h> 
h> I tested to disable perfdm (or what it was called?!?) then it stops in
h> the command window when starting up, but got error messages after a
h> while.Something about: respawn error... disable for 5min
h> Think that xfm trying to restart after disconnection or
h> something.....??!?!
h> 
h> Any help would be nice!  :)
h> 
h> /H
h> 
h> 
h> 
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h>                                                






                                                                                       
  
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From: Wayne Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How-To for NT 4.0 Loader--Useful???
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:49:03 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I just posted a message about putting NT 4.0, DOS and RH 6.2 all on one computer. I'm 
slightly
stalled in the installation. I got stalled because I asked RH a question about it, and 
they
immediately steered me to the How-To on the NT Loader. However, I began reflecting on 
a success I
had installing NT 4.0 and Caldera's Linux together on the same system some years ago. 
I was pretty
naive about any difficulty I might potentially have with that install and just plugged 
ahead.
Eventually, I got bit when I tried creating a partition beyond Linux for a new NT 4.0 
drive. Linux
became unbootable, but NT 4.0 kept chugging along. I'm not sure pushing on with the RH 
6.2 is going
to really cause me any problems. So far it's just asking me where I want to put Linux. 
hda6, which
is really my E-drive would be just fine. I have a C and D, which are sufficient for my 
NT 4.0 use.
My question is why should I go through all the complexities offered by the How-To? It 
seems a bit
off the track to me.



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From: "Chris Harshman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: Sex Paradise is FREE !!!!!  1
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:49:04 -0700

They're not even running the site on Linux; it's Apache on Solaris!  The
nerve, spamming a Linux newsgroup about a site running on a Solaris box...
=)


> This is a LInux help newsgroup
> Piss off with this sort of crap




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: kernel Makefile bugs?
Date: 14 Jun 2000 19:52:53 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <8i8qbl$g0t$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jeff Lacki wrote:
> Installed a Sound Blaster 512 Card 2 weeks ago just fine
> (RedHat 6.2).  Then, I bought a NetGear Ethernet card and found
> an article on how to get it to work, so I read the article, followed
> the instructions on make xconfig (ONLY setting the appropriate
> ether module etc) in this exact order (via the instructions):
>
> make clean
> make xconfig
> make dep
> make clean
> make bzImage
> make modules modules_install bzlilo
> shutdown -r 0
>
> NetGear card now works, Sound Blaster Module emu10k1.o is now
> toast.  I get a lot of undefined symbols.
>
> I saw this problem in the past as well.  It appears that the
> Makefile or some derivation of it all is not compiling or loading
> in the same stuff consistantly after a make clean is done.

Did you try "make mrproper" (that's "cleaner than [make] clean"?)

Did you move the modules directory somewhere else before "make
modules_install" (i.e., do you have modules that are older than your
most recent recompile)?

What are the error messages?  (Do you get error messages on "depmod -a"?)

-- 
Paul Kimoto

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (OldUncleMe)
Subject: Re: comp.os.linux.misc - to short time
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 23:57:34 GMT

It was: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 11:19:07 +0200  and with STARTLING insight,
"Rafael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" 
  posted "Re: comp.os.linux.misc - to short time" 
 to "comp.os.linux.misc" :

-->So to which new Server should I conect to have possibility read new older than 3
-->
-->weeks.
-->
-->
-->Rafael
-->Jehsom wrote:
-->
-->> Rafael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
-->> > I wonder why messages on this new group ar e kept so short time.
-->> > It is not so good. Is ther eto little space on the server? Imposible
-->>
-->> Your ISP is responsible for the news server you use. The messages would
-->> be kept for a longer time if your ISP wanted to. It's not our fault :)
-->>
-->> Moshe

You can look at news archives and search them as well on www.dejanews.com,
specifically at:  http://www.deja.com/usenet/

Not my favorite interface, but it does work.         /ts

              tenox  @  home  dot   com
                                                                             

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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 19:00:21 -0500
From: paul simdars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Fdisk and dos

Has anyone used Linux fdisk to partition their dos drive?   I have one
drive which has only dos partitions on it but dos doesn't seem to be
able to partition it correctly.  It keeps adding an extra partition so I
thought I'd do it with Linux.  Anyone had any experience?
Thanks.
Paul

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From: Erik Max Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: ansiTime library: mktime() inconsistencies across platforms?
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:53:59 -0700

Robert J Carter wrote:

> I would tend to go with the SunOS behaviour. tm_isdst is *supposed* to
> be a boolean value; non-zero is true, zero if false. The actual value
> shouldn't matter.

Zero, positive, or negative.

>From ANSI C 1989, 7.12.2.1:

    The value of tm_isdst is positive if Daylight Savings Time is in
    effect, zero if Daylight Savings Time is not in effect, and
negative     if the information is not available.

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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 19:01:59 -0500
From: paul simdars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: fdisk \ dos

Has anyone used Linux fdisk to partition their dos drive?   I have one
drive which has only dos partitions on it but dos doesn't seem to be
able to partition it correctly.  It keeps adding an extra partition so I
thought I'd do it with Linux.  Anyone had any experience?
Thanks.
Paul

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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 19:05:35 -0500
From: paul simdars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: fdisk and dos

Has anyone used Linux fdisk to partition their dos drive?   I have one
drive which has only dos partitions on it but dos doesn't seem to be
able to partition it correctly.  It keeps adding an extra partition so I
thought I'd do it with Linux.  Anyone had any experience?
Thanks.
Paul

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