Linux-Misc Digest #959, Volume #24 Wed, 28 Jun 00 01:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: Telnet LINUX (Herb Stein)
Re: Cant create a partition with disk druid?? (newbie) ("Trent Cook")
Problem with Star Office 5.2 and SuSE 6.4 (Michel Catudal)
Re: insmod failed? ("Devon Harding")
Installing oracle8i (Sam Wun)
idled and xdm (May Yam)
Re: Installing oracle8i (Dances With Crows)
Re: grouping database entries in StarOffice 5.2 (Reinhard Karcher)
Linux to Windows Network Help (Dave)
Re: mouse garbage (Kichi Leung)
Re: removing soft links (Kichi Leung)
Re: Gnome vs KDE (Kichi Leung)
Re: How to contact Apache remotely. (David Efflandt)
getting software ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
apropos nothing ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Simple questions: Pronounce, FreeBSD, pico etc....*s* (brian moore)
Re: Simple questions: Pronounce, FreeBSD, pico etc....*s* (Equinox)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Herb Stein)
Subject: Re: Telnet LINUX
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 03:09:40 GMT
And that is the ONLY way root should ever get in.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>On 23 Jun 2000 13:06:46 GMT, J Bland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>> >are you for real?
>
>> I'll assume he is...
>
>.... and why shouldn't I be ?
>
>I administer Linux and UNIX for a living, and it's by no means uncommon
>for me to attempt a login with the wrong password ...
>
>[snip]
>
>> If you have ssh installed you can use:
>>
>> ssh -l root address.of.machine
>>
>> If you don't have ssh or a normal user set up, *do so now*. It's far too
>> easy to break or crash a system if you run as root all the time.
>
>Agreed; root logins should be disallowed from the word 'go!'. Here at
>the FDI, there are two other people who have access to the root passwords,
>in case something should happen when I'm not here. Neither of them can
>telnet into the machines from their workstations, other than into their
>user shells, and are thus forced to run su. That way, I can keep an eye
>on what they're doing ... :-)
>
--
Herb Stein
The Herb Stein Group
www.herbstein.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
314 215-3584
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From: "Trent Cook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cant create a partition with disk druid?? (newbie)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 03:24:54 GMT
I replied in comp.os.linux.setup....thanks man
:)
"Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> replied in comp.os.linux.setup
>
> Trent Cook wrote:
> >
> > Hi again,
> >
> > I figured the best way to get out of my linux mess, was a complete fresh
> > install. Guess not, cause here is my problem:
> >
> > I have 2 hard drives: one 13gig cut up for windows and one 5gig cut up
for
> > linux.
> >
> > The problem is that I can only create a swap partion on my 5 gig drive.
I
> > have deleted all partitions in fdisk, disk druid, linux fdisk, delpart
etc
> > etc and every time I come to disk druid in the setup. It says that I
have
> > 100% free space on my 5 gig drive, but when I try to create a /boot or
a /
> > root drive it says there isnt enough space.
> >
> > Oddly enough I can create swap files (as many , or as big as I want with
the
> > 5 gig drive?)
> >
> > Why cant I make any other drives? I tried creating them with fdisk and
> > converting to linux but no go.
> >
> > I did an Fdisk /mbr as well (just cause i ran out of things to try) but
> > nothing.
> >
> > So I guess Linux doesnt want to go on my machine, but I am sure that
there
> > must be something I can do.....isnt there?
> >
> > Please Help!
> >
> > Trent (newbie)
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problem with Star Office 5.2 and SuSE 6.4
Date: 27 Jun 2000 22:28:10 -0500
I have both Star Office 5.1 and Star Office 5.2 on my PC.
Star Office 5.1 is the english version that came with SuSE 6.4
Star Office 5.2 is the french version downloaded from sun
Java crashes Star Office 5.2 but not 5.1
If I disable java with version 5.2 it doesn't crash anymore.
What could be the problem?
The version of Java that comes (forced by the installation of 5.1) is 1.1.17
I had installed 1.1.18 and then 1.2.2 but the install of Star Office said that there
were no
java runtime on those directory. If the version is a problem, how do I force Star
Office to recognize
that version 1.1.18 or 1.2.2 are acceptable? Do I need to remove the older Star Office
and java 1.1.17?
--
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From: "Devon Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: insmod failed?
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 23:55:10 -0400
It's actually enabled at boot up, but fails at 'insmod 3c509'. After the
system has comeup, I can then manually do 'insmod 3c509' then 'ifconfig eth1
192.168.0.1' insmod seems to timeout on boot.
-Devon
"Craig Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Devon Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Here is a copy of my "conf.modules"
> > alias eth0 ne
> > options ne io=0x300 irq=10
> > alias eth1 3c509
> > options 3c509 io=0x320 irq=5
> > alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc
> > pre-install pcmcia_core /etc/rc.d/init.d/pcmcia start
> >
> > I'm using RHL62
>
> Then you should just be able to click the "start interface at boot
> time" in the network control panel; or edit it manually in
> /etc/sysconfig.
>
> --
> The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
> Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
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From: Sam Wun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Installing oracle8i
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:58:20 +1000
Dear all,
Could anyone whom have successfully installed Oracle8i in Linux please
email
me a installation script?
Thanks very much
Sam
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From: May Yam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: idled and xdm
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:48:20 +0800
Hi all
Is there any package like 'idled' that kills idling X session from
remote X terminal.
I have tried setting up idled 1.16 on Redhat6.2 box and SuSE6.4
box (both with xdm on to manage some thin linux X terminals), idled did
not work. It seems that idled relies on wtmp and the 'last' or 'finger'
commands on both boxes reported wrong login information (it either
missed the remote X session logon or it showed the wrong idle time for
the logon user). So does it have anything to do with the 'wrong' wtmp?
Does xdm and the remote sessions mess up wtmp?
What should I do? Please help! :(
Thankyou.
Regards
May
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Installing oracle8i
Date: 28 Jun 2000 00:18:27 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[posted and mailed]
On Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:58:20 +1000, Sam Wun
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
What's up with that MIME garbage? Plain text is the accepted standard for
Usenet; use it!
>Could anyone whom have successfully installed Oracle8i in Linux please
>email me a installation script?
*sigh*
The install procedure for Oracle8i is... complex, and a bit distro-
dependent, and certainly *NOT* something you can script as it requires
interactive user input through some @#$!ing Java program. Which distro
are you using, what problems have you run into, and have you read the
documentation? SuSE has an HTML file on their website where they provide
a patch for the Oracle installer and directions on how to get the thing
started; I assume Caldera, Turbo, and others besides RedHat have something
similar.
I ran into 5 or 6 problems with the install regardless. SuSE creates a
user called "oracle" who's supposed to do the install/assume DBA
privileges. Log in as "oracle", start the installer, tell it where to put
$ORACLE_HOME, install goes all right. Try to run the dbassist database
creation thingy, the Java program barfs. Turned out that an environment
variable had to be set like so:
ORA_NLS33=$ORACLE_HOME/ocommon/nls/admin/data
and the installer had set it to $HOME/ocommon/nls/admin/data while user
oracle's $HOME != $ORACLE_HOME in my case... After setting this, dbassist
worked OK (in USA English; problems might arise for othe languages!)
The Net8 Java configuration program barfed no matter what I did, though,
so I just looked in the $ORACLE_HOME/network/admin/samples directory for
the text files that said program fiddles with, messed with them manually
($DEITY bless vim) and copied them to $ORACLE_HOME/network/admin and
restarted the whole Oracle database using the Oracle startup/shutdown
script that the installer put in /sbin/init.d/ (that's /etc/rc.d/init.d/
for RedHat folks.) After 3 repetitions of this and much cursing, I got it
to work properly.
ISTR that there was something else early on in the install process that
confused me, but I can't remember what it was now. *shrug* read the
documentation, use your brain, and if all else fails, post to
comp.databases.oracle and see what the gurus there can tell you....
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows /\ "Man could not stare too long at the face
\----[this space for rent]-----/ \ of the Computer or her children and still
\There is no Darkness in Eternity \ remain as Man." --David Zindell "So did
But only Light too dim for us to see\ they become Gods, or Usenetters?" --/me
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Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 21:52:27 +0200
From: Reinhard Karcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: grouping database entries in StarOffice 5.2
Nestor Kelebay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am self employed and currently use Microsoft Works v.4 for all my
>office needs. One of the features I need in an integrated office software
>suite is the ability to group database entries according to a particular
>column entry. For example, if I enter costs for each project I am working
>on, and I assign each project a number in that database, I need the
>database software to be able to group all of the entries with that project
>number together, add up the costs and report a total cost for each project.
>I can do that now in MS Works, but I can't seem to find any command to do
>that in StarOffice 5.1. Does StarOffice 5.2 have that capability?
Look for queries in the documentation. As I use the german version, I'm
not quite shure about queries, it can be found in the context menu of the
database tables.
Reinhard
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From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux to Windows Network Help
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 04:30:08 GMT
I have a PII 333MHz Windows box running with a cable modem on it. It has
a Netgear FA310TX Fast Ethernet PCI Card in it that is connecting it to
the linux box and it has another PCI card for the modem. I just recently
installed Red Hat 5.1 on my other box witch is 200MHz and also has the
Netgear Card in it. My question is basically how to network the two. I
really need it in detail because i dont have much experience with linux
networking. I attemted to add my ethernet card to the kernel but it didnt
seem to work. Whenever I test a module it says that it is busy... So
could someone please explain to me how to set up the network in RH 5.1
with windows (Hosts, IP's etc.).
Thanks,
Dave
--
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From: Kichi Leung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mouse garbage
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 12:23:21 +0800
On Tue, 27 Jun 2000, dlw wrote:
>i'm trying to setup my mouse for xwindows but whenever i select anything the
>mouse moves to the right or left of the screen and won't budge. but it
Sounds like X doesn't know your mouse type yet, so that's what it does with the
pointer until it knows what protocol it uses and other vital stuff.
If you use XF86Setup, don't move the mouse until you have selected the protocol
(use "p") and applied the changes ("a").
And disable gpm (use "killall gpm") before starting X.
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Kichi Leung
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Kichi Leung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: removing soft links
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 12:28:16 +0800
On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Phil Reardon wrote:
>Recently I made a soft link by going into the target directory and
>issuing ln -s /home/myhome. How can I delete this link, without
>removing or looksing the stuff in myhome?
You won't lose the target of the link when you delete the link.
Just rm it like you would a normal file.
--
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Kichi Leung
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Kichi Leung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Gnome vs KDE
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 12:31:09 +0800
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Hi,
>
<snip>
>released soon). How come Gnome is RedHat's default desktop?
Maybe the folks at Redhat like Gnome, so they set it as default.
But you don't have to follow them.
--
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Kichi Leung
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: How to contact Apache remotely.
Date: 28 Jun 2000 04:55:30 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 10:30:03 GMT, alan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Would like to know what exactly is involved. I know about localhost and
>127.0.0.1 for local contact. Obviously, for remote contact I need to know
>my own unique IP address (where is that kept?). Then do I simply enter that
>from a remote loaction while this machine is on the internet?? Please
>explain?? NB thanks so much for previous Linux help.
When you connect with ppp a script /etc/ppp/ip-up runs automatically when
you get an IP address. You can modify that (or ip-up.local in RedHat) to
send your IP out to somewhere one way or another because it is passed your
local IP address as variable $4. You just have to know that it is run
with minimal environment so you should use full paths to scripts, programs
or files.
If your smtp server is working you could e-mail your address somewhere.
If not, you could put it in a file and ftp upload it to a website or other
site you have access to using an ftp program that can work from the
command line or Net::FTP module in Perl.
If you have some connection other than ppp I imagine you could do it with
something related to dhcpcd or running a script from cron at regular
intervals to parse the output of /sbin/ifconfig.
Maybe I should consider myself lucky that I have a static ppp IP and
hostname so all I would have to do is connect to find myself remotely and
everything like apache and sendmail simply work without having to do
anything special.
--
David Efflandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.de-srv.com/
http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/ http://www.berniesfloral.net/
http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/ http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: getting software
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 04:47:12 GMT
Hi,
How do Linux (RedHat specifically) users usually get software? For
example, I want Xemacs and Pine. Obviously, I can't search the web with
altavista and then download rpm's from random sites, as they can be
trojaned. Is there any standard procedure for getting Linux software
that I'm not aware of?
Thanks a bunch
Wroot
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: apropos nothing
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 04:50:40 GMT
Hi,
After installing RH6.2 I found that "apropos" never returns anything.
What is wrong? Should I create some sort of index/database or something?
How?
Thanks
Wroot
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Simple questions: Pronounce, FreeBSD, pico etc....*s*
Date: 28 Jun 2000 05:04:58 GMT
On 27 Jun 2000 19:45:14 GMT,
Andrew Onifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 06:12:09 -0230, Hendrix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >5. Daemon --- Is it demon, or daymon...
>
> Demon. It's actually how demon was originally spelled.
Though the word 'daemon' used to have a more general sense as a 'spirit',
implying neither good nor evil.
> >3. Does the POSIX standard dictate the directory structure of *nix based
> >systems (usr, home, bin, etc, var et cetera...)...??? If so, where can
> >I get a copy of this POSIX standard...??? What else does the standard
> >dictate...???
>
> Don't know.
It doesn't. The Filesystem Heirarchy Standard does. See
http://www.pathname.com/fhs/
--
Brian Moore | Of course vi is God's editor.
Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | If He used Emacs, He'd still be waiting
Usenet Vandal | for it to load on the seventh day.
Netscum, Bane of Elves.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Equinox)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Simple questions: Pronounce, FreeBSD, pico etc....*s*
Date: 28 Jun 2000 05:06:56 GMT
On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 06:12:09 -0230, Hendrix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> As a newbie, I would like to take this time and ask a few questions
> regarding the pronounciation of various GNU/Linux utilities, commands,
> licences, concepts etc...<grin> I've heard that different people
> pronounce these things differently anyhow, but just the same, I'm
> interested in knowing how you guys repeat these words... Should be fun,
> here goes nothing...*s*
>
> 1. vi --- Is it spelled out or spoken "Veye"...
vye
> 2. GNU --- Is it spelled out, or pronounced "New"...
guh-noo'
> 3. Linux --- Leee-nucks, Len-nucks, or Lie-nucks(How does Linus say
> it?)..
* As Linus pronounces it: lee'-nooks
* Americanized: lye'-nuhks (as the Peanuts character)
* For those with a lot of cooling fans in their machine: lin'-nuhks
(see http://www.lennox.com/)
> 4. SQL --- Is it spelled out, or pronounced "Sequel".. I've heard
> both..
ess-kyoo-ell
> 5. Daemon --- Is it demon, or daymon...
dee'-mon
> 6. TCL --- I've heard it called Tickle...???*s*
tee-see-ell
> 7. pico --- Is it pee-co or pie-co...??? (Hey, I've used it
> too)...*s*
Most people I know pronounce it pee'-coh (though there is a convincing
argument for pie'-coh)
> In addition, could someone please enlighten me on the following
> "simple-natured" questions...???
>
> 1. Why is Unix-based systems referred to as *nix based systems when
> linux and various other versions end in "ux"...???
Because "Unix" is a trademark (and the people who use "*nix", "Un*x",
and similar hooey are somwehat paranoid).
> 2. Is FreeBSD linux or not...??? When I ordered all the distributions
> from <www.linuxmall.com> I was sent FreeBSD with all the other
> distros...
No. FreeBSD (and OpenBSD, and NetBSD) are all variants of BSD unix.
Different animal, similar functionality.
> 3. Does the POSIX standard dictate the directory structure of *nix based
> systems (usr, home, bin, etc, var et cetera...)...??? If so, where can
> I get a copy of this POSIX standard...??? What else does the standard
> dictate...???
Probably not. There may be a standard for actual Unix systems, but
Linux filesystems are supposedly dictated by the Filesystem Hierarchy
Standard (found at http://www.pathname.com/fhs/). The FHS itself,
IMO, is too lenient, making too many special allowances for specific
applications such as X. Not that it really matters, since nobody
actually follows it anyway.
> 4. Does the sysvinit program install the 'login' and 'sulogin' programs
> when it is installed itself...??? I know the 'init' process activates
> and respawns these programs, but is the 'login' and 'sulogin' programs
> part of the sysvinit distribution...???
Unknown (I would look, but I need to go do my laundry soon).
> 5. Does anyone but me use 'pico'...???*smile* Getting used to 'vi' is
> just killing me...!!!*s*
Yep. Pico is one of my favorite editors (the other being joe, invoked
with the 'jpico' command. :)
--Russell
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