Linux-Misc Digest #178, Volume #25 Wed, 19 Jul 00 11:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Making KDE screensaver work in WM? (Andrew Purugganan)
FREE Thru 7/21 - Huge LINUXWORLD EXPO Aug. 14-17 In San Jose, Calif. (Mark S. Bilk)
How to tell if software or hardware is ruining my box ("max barwell")
Re: RedHat 2.2.16 won't find root fs (Joshua Baker-LePain)
Re: slackware (Dennis)
Solution to single window mode of Exceed + Linux (Rob Ratcliff)
Re: Apache question (Kerry Miller)
Re: non-English letters in xterm (Nicolas LS)
Apache-Turning off local proxy to reach server (Yamar)
Re: Modprobe runs all the time (-ljl-)
linux friendly dsl provider in montreal?
Re: audio on cdrom? (Claude Vaillancourt)
Re: RedHat 2.2.16 won't find root fs (Leonard Evens)
Re: audio on cdrom? (mircea)
Re: FREEWARE - portable Unix utility scripts (Thomas Dickey)
Re: Installation Problem with RH (Dave Brown)
Re: ext2 filesystems, i/o cacheing? (ATathenet.net (Paul Thompson))
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Subject: Making KDE screensaver work in WM?
Date: 19 Jul 2000 12:05:02 GMT
I don't recall seeing a tab in Wmprefs to set up a screensaver. I would
be happy though adding a screensaver to WM whether via menu or Wmprefs,
and I really prefer running KDE's, without having to include ALL KDE
(meager resources, you know, which does seem to conflict with WANTING all
this eye-candy nonsense ;-) I just put in this thing that replays FLash
movies (Kflash I think)...
Is there a quick and dirty way to run it or set it up
--
jazz
Registered linux user no. 164098
Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark S. Bilk)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: FREE Thru 7/21 - Huge LINUXWORLD EXPO Aug. 14-17 In San Jose, Calif.
Date: 19 Jul 2000 12:20:56 GMT
LinuxWorld Conference & Expo
Expo: August 15 - 17, 2000
Conference: August 14 - 17, 2000
San Jose Convention Center, San Jose California (Silicon Valley)
http://www.linuxworldexpo.com
Register by July 21 -- only two more days! -- for free
Exhibits badge for admission to all exhibits, keynote and
feature presentations, birds of a feather sessions and
various other events (except conferences and tutorials),
August 15-17. (After July 21, this registration is $25.)
Register on the web with Netscape, IE, or fax, or by phone
if you don't have those facilities:
http://www.linuxworldexpo.com/show_reginfo.html
This show was very big last year, and this time they have
165 exhibitors, with 40 more on hold because the entire
San Jose Convention Center will already be filled!
Partial list of speakers, panelists, etc, at free events:
Linus Torvalds
Jeremy Allison, Samba
Eric S. Raymond, Internet Developer and Writer
Miguel de Icaza, GNOME;
Volker Wiegand, CEO, SuSE, Inc.
Ransom Love, President and CEO, Caldera Systems
Bob Young, Chairman, Red Hat
Cliff Miller, CEO, TurboLinux
Bodo Bauer, TurboLinux
Larry Augustin, Founder, President, CEO, VA Linux Systems
Scott Draeker, Loki Entertainment
Jon "maddog" Hall, Executive Director, Linux International
Robert LeBlanc, Vice President, IBM Software Strategy
Bruce Perens
Jay Sulzberger;
Patricia Lambs, CEO, Linuxcare
Nick Petreley, Contributing Editor for LinuxWorld and InfoWorld
Conferences and tutorials run August 14-17, and cost from
$145 to $795 for various plans; see the website.
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From: "max barwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: How to tell if software or hardware is ruining my box
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 00:27:05 +1200
Greetings, I am running Redhat 6.2, 2.2.16 kernel, helix gnome & sawfish,
and have upgraded most apps and services as I also run 2.4.x kernels too.
My trouble is that for a while I thought my box was the best in the world
, fast and cool, but lately its been a real dog. alot of HD grinding, apps
pretending their staroffice : ) (I mean slow as), and other oddness such
as random logouts, and the kernel twice failing to boot with a crc error
message. I am fairly good with linux but no guru and I was wondering If
people could point out a utility or some things I could check to see if my
hardware is flaking out, or if my system is somehow corrupted or just
bogged down in some way. I have a P2 400, 64 MB ram, and a 10 GB HD if
that helps. Any suggestions much appreciated.
Max.
--
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- Max Barwell - - Powered by -
- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - Redhat 6.2 -
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From: Joshua Baker-LePain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RedHat 2.2.16 won't find root fs
Date: 19 Jul 2000 13:18:31 GMT
Myke Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have RedHat 6.2 running on a system with more or less no alterations:
> installed all right from the CD. It runs the 2.2.14-5.0 kernel. Now I am
> trying to install 2.2.16 for in order to use new driver. I downloaded the
> RPM directly from RedHat's site, but for some reason it won't find my
> root fs. The kernel starts to boot fine, and right when it seems to want
> to mount the root file system I get the message:
> request_mod[block_major_8]: fs not found
> My root fs is on /dev/sda5 (major device #8, which I assume is what the
> message above refers to). My /boot partition is /dev/sda1 where the kernel
> is located.
>From the sounds of this (and the rest of this thread), you did not
make an inital ramdisk during the install. These contain module images
which, for example, allow the bootloader to actually see your SCSI disk and
the kernel installed there. Initial ramdisks are dependent on your
specific system, and so are not part of the kernel RPMs. After you
install the new kernel you need to issue a command like the following:
# /sbin/mkinitrd /boot/initrd-2.2.16-3.img 2.2.16-3
This will create a file in /boot called initrd-2.2.16-3.img based on
the kernel modules for kernel version 2.2.16-3. Note that if you have
a SMP system, you'll have to append that (2.2.16-3smp).
After making the initial ramdisk, make an entry in lilo.conf for your
new kernel, with an initrd=/boot/initrd=2.2.16-3.img entry to
point it at your initial ramdisk.
The full procedure for upgrading your kernel via rpm can be found at:
http://www.redhat.com/support/docs/howto/kernel-upgrade/kernel-upgrade.html
with section 3 being the most useful.
--
Joshua Baker-LePain
Department of Biomedical Engineering
Duke University
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From: Dennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: slackware
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 09:26:28 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
shawn wrote:
>
> hello everyone
> my friend stated that he first learned all about linux and the
> like using slackware 2.x on a 386, so im thinking
> that since im getting a couple 486's pretty soon ill put slack ( or
> some other 'flavor' ) on it and just destroy. and hack around. buy
> mostly destroy it,
> since thats the best way to learn. anyways my main question is this:
> does anyone think this is a good idea, or did anyone learn like this,
> and also which flavor should i use (keep in mind this will be just a
> hackaround machine - probably wont connect it to the web and definately
> wont run X on it, so...) thanks
>
> shawn
Slackware is the manual transmission of Linux (actually, like the VW Bug
manual transmission). On the otherhand, Corel is the sophisticated
automatic transmission. I've looked at/used Corel, RedHat, Mandarake,
Storm, and Slackware. I believe Slackware is best suited to your goals
and you may find that you continue using it well passed your learning
days.
Dennis,
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From: Rob Ratcliff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Solution to single window mode of Exceed + Linux
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 13:31:38 GMT
Hello everbody who's had trouble using Exceed to Linux,
I think I came up with a solution to the Exceed not working
in single window mode when talking to Linux. I compared the
files in /etc/X11/xdm files on Linux to the ones on my
Solaris box. The biggest difference was the
overly tight "authorize" lines in the xdm-config file.
Once I changed it to allow all display managers it
worked like a charm. I included the changed
xdm-config file for your reference.
I rebooted after I changed the file to restart the window manager
just to be sure. I'd be interested in hearing if there were
other required fixes on other systems too.
Good Luck,
Rob Ratcliff
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/etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config
! $XConsortium: xdm-conf.cpp /main/3 1996/01/15 15:17:26 gildea $
DisplayManager.errorLogFile: /var/log/xdm-error.log
DisplayManager.pidFile: /var/run/xdm.pid
DisplayManager.keyFile: /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-keys
DisplayManager.servers: /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers
DisplayManager.accessFile: /etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess
! All displays should use authorization, but we cannot be sure
! X terminals will be configured that way, so by default
! use authorization only for local displays :0, :1, etc.
!rrr DisplayManager._0.authorize: true
!rrr DisplayManager._1.authorize: true
! rrr added the next line too
DisplayManager*authorize: true
! The following three resources set up display :0 as the console.
DisplayManager._0.setup: /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0
DisplayManager._0.startup: /etc/X11/xdm/GiveConsole
DisplayManager._0.reset: /etc/X11/xdm/TakeConsole
!
DisplayManager*resources: /etc/X11/xdm/Xresources
DisplayManager*session: /etc/X11/Xsession
DisplayManager*authComplain: false
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kerry Miller)
Subject: Re: Apache question
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 13:48:47 GMT
That looks like what I needed, thanks!
Kerry Miller
(No longer with my daughter's e-mail address in my setup!)
On 18 Jul 2000 20:21:10 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
wrote:
>On Tue, 18 Jul 2000 15:13:27 -0500, Jessica Miller
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>I'm running Apache on Red Hat 6.2. Does anybody know how to just show a
>>directory listing instead of a web page? I've seen it done before but I
>>don't know how.
>
>In httpd.conf around line 360, I see:
>#
># DirectoryIndex: Name of the file or files to use as a pre-written HTML
># directory index. Separate multiple entries with spaces.
>DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm
>
>So any directory that has an index.html or index.htm will display that
>page. If a file by those names doesn't exist, a directory listing will
>be displayed. If you have the line
>IndexOptions FancyIndexing
>included, the index will look prettier and have icons; if not, it won't.
>HTH,
>
>--
>Matt G|There is no Darkness in eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
>"We should have a policy against using personal resources for company
>business." "The Company didn't pay for these pants, so I'm taking them
>off at the door!" --J. Moore and A. DeBoer, the Monastery
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nicolas LS)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: non-English letters in xterm
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 13:42:56 GMT
Le 19 Jul 2000 09:01:07 GMT, Stefano Ghirlanda a ecrit :
>The language I'm interested into is Swedish, whose characters are
>in the iso-latin-8859-1 set.
Maybe there is a Swedish-Howto or else, you could use the French-HOWTO
but it's in french.
>Characters on the console also do not work, but at the login prompt
>do.
You might check that your font support iso8859-1
I'm french and i use iso8859-1, i have:
[nlsn@nlsn nlsn]$ set |grep LC
LC_ALL=C
LC_COLLATE=fr
LC_CTYPE=fr
LC_MESSAGES=fr
LC_MONETARY=fr_FR
LC_TIME=fr_FR
LC_TYPE=ISO-8859-1
--
- Nicolas LS -
- http://nlsn.free.fr -
- Logiciels, liens, astuces, ... -
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From: Yamar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Apache-Turning off local proxy to reach server
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 13:43:28 GMT
Hello, I am just installing an Apache web server on a RedHat 6.1
machine. Once it was installed I configured the web server to work. I
can reach it if I have my local proxy server settings turned off. With
the proxys set for my browser I CANNOT reach my web server. Has anyone
ever delt with this before, and know a solution ? Any help would be app.
Thanks, Yamar
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: -ljl- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Modprobe runs all the time
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 13:52:44 GMT
In article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Ok, I'll do a search on dejanews for it. What do I have to do to
make
> it stop looping?
First I would try contacting the author of this thread:
Keith Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Second, I would embark on de-modularizing the kernel.
Here is an excellent source for the latter:
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Kernel-HOWTO.html
Modules are a convenient but rarely a necessity.
Hope this is of some utility.
--
Louis-ljl-{ Louis J. LaBash, Jr. }
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: linux friendly dsl provider in montreal?
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 10:10:07 -0400
Hello,
Is there a linux friendly dsl provider in montreal?
i 've been reading and hearing things about Sympatico.Bad things...mostly
tech support.
Would anyone know if there are other residential providers in the montreal
area ?
thanks,
joe
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From: Claude Vaillancourt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: audio on cdrom?
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 10:15:14 -0400
Can you play CD with windows (through the sound card)?
If not, check if the sound cable is connected from the back of the CDROM
to the sound card connector.
Otherwise, check your sound card config...
Potter Wickware wrote:
>
> Hi all --
>
> OK, so I've got Redhat 6 installed & running. Now how do I make the CD
> player play music? I've used the mount -a command and the CDROM makes
> the expected mechanical noises, and the CD player utility registers
> tracks & play time, etc., but no music comes out. Sound card works fine
> when the machine is booted on the win OS.
>
> I've read the HOWTO at http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/CDROM-HOWTO.html,
> but I'm still scratching my head.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks for all help,
>
> Potter
>
> ============================================
> Potter Wickware
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ============================================
--
===========================
Claude Vaillancourt eng.
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RedHat 2.2.16 won't find root fs
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 09:13:12 -0500
Myke Morgan wrote:
>
> I have RedHat 6.2 running on a system with more or less no alterations:
> installed all right from the CD. It runs the 2.2.14-5.0 kernel. Now I am
> trying to install 2.2.16 for in order to use new driver. I downloaded the
> RPM directly from RedHat's site, but for some reason it won't find my
> root fs. The kernel starts to boot fine, and right when it seems to want
> to mount the root file system I get the message:
>
> request_mod[block_major_8]: fs not found
>
> My root fs is on /dev/sda5 (major device #8, which I assume is what the
> message above refers to). My /boot partition is /dev/sda1 where the kernel
> is located.
>
> The strange part is I then downloaded the RPM for 2.2.14 (what I'm
> currently running off the RedHat CDROM) and that gives the same error
> also. *sigh*
>
> Any ideas? It seems like a module problem but the proper SCSI module
> (aic7xxx) seems to be in place.
>
> TIA,
> myke
> --
> I proclaim you, FOUR!
Your original lilo.conf file must have had an
initrd=...
statement that referred to your old kernel. For example, mine has
initrd=/boot/initrd-2.2.12-20.img
You have to make a neew initrd file for your new kernel. This is done
with the mkinitrd command. See the man page for syntax. Then
modify the initrd statement in lilo.conf for the new file and
rerun /sbin/lilo.
What happens in this case is that since the generic kernel
handles scsi access as a module, you must load a initial ramdisk
and some scsi drivers to bootstrap the process of loading the
kernel.
The RedHat web site has an extensive discussion of how to install
a new kernel package which discusses this matter.
Alternately, you can choose to put scsi support in the kernel
when you compile it.
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: mircea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: audio on cdrom?
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 10:36:48 -0400
Potter Wickware wrote:
>
> Hi all --
>
> OK, so I've got Redhat 6 installed & running. Now how do I make the CD
> player play music? I've used the mount -a command and the CDROM makes
> the expected mechanical noises, and the CD player utility registers
> tracks & play time, etc., but no music comes out. Sound card works fine
> when the machine is booted on the win OS.
>
> I've read the HOWTO at http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/CDROM-HOWTO.html,
> but I'm still scratching my head.
>
> Any ideas?
>
Firstly, you don't mount an audio CD. You only mount block devices which
have a filesystem on them. Audio CDs don't have a filesystem - you just
stick them in the unit and fire up a CD player.
Secondly, if your sound card works fine in windoze, it doesn't grant it
will in Linux too - there are manufacturers out there who will not give
any piece of info about their hardware. Is sound working per se in
Linux? If not, you'll have to set it up.
MST
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From: Thomas Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FREEWARE - portable Unix utility scripts
Date: 19 Jul 2000 14:38:44 GMT
Richard Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
^^^^^^
(must give credit for his sense of humor)
> The software product Typhon (www.unixscripts.com) contains over 100 portable
> Korn shell scripts for text processing, file and directory processing,
> customizing your login environment, disk space management, performance
> analysis, system monitoring and system security. It includes generalized
> login environment files for the Korn shell, bash and the C shell.
the demo isn't very interesting (looks more/less like one of my
script directories).
--
Thomas E. Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://dickey.his.com
ftp://dickey.his.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: Installation Problem with RH
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 19 Jul 2000 10:05:27 -0500
In article <8l3vnl$42m$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Hartmut Marten wrote:
>why the hell is Red Hat (5.x - 6.2) refusing my disk's partition table? I am
>definitly unable to install Red Hat in text mode, in expert mode, in every
>mode I try. When it comes to partitioning Red Hat complains about the
>partition table (error: no free resources). I admit, the partition table is
>rather complicated, with OS/2 bootmanager first (activated), two extra
>primary partitions for the bunch of Windows/DOS versions and an extended one
>for data and playing around with e.g. linux. Slackware, SuSE, Debian ... no
>problem. Each of these distributions recognizes the partition table and
>easily installs bootable through OS/2 bootmanager/lilo. Why does Red Hat
>not?
You didn't say how many partitions or where you were trying to install.
I have a drive with 18 partitions, 2 "primary" and 16 "logical". This
requires device files in /dev named hda1, hda2, hda5 .. hda20. The
RH install environment does not have any greater than hda15 (as I recall).
So the installer just quits when it sees a partition table with this many
partitions.
I had to "delete" (hide) my high order partitions, and install in a lower
partition number. (I saved the details of the partition table, so I could
"recreate" (unhide) those partitions --using Linux fdisk-- after I complete
the install. Then I moved the RH install up to one of the high partitions.
(Since then, I have moved stuff around so that my high partitions are
data only (cdrom images, etc.).
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: thompson(AT)athenet.net (Paul Thompson)
Subject: Re: ext2 filesystems, i/o cacheing?
Date: 19 Jul 2000 15:05:23 GMT
If you wish to reduce the IO to a file you can use the 'A' attribute in
chattr so that the access time of the file is not updated each time your
mail-checking tool runs. Other than that I think the reads will
typically be cached, but the writes (for the atime) will eventually go
out to the disk.
Paul
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows) writes:
> On Tue, 18 Jul 2000 19:04:52 -0500, John Thompson
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>James Ferguson wrote:
>>
>>> If I have a mail-checking tool running, that's going to be looking at
>>> my mail file every say, 30 seconds, and the machine isn't generally
>>> doing anything else, will the disk be physically checked, or will it
>>> all happen in a memory cache?
>>>
>>> I'm wondering whether there's any reason to shut down mail-checking
>>> progs if my machine is permanently up, to prevent the disk being hit
>>> frequently. I suspect it's not really a problem due to cacheing.
>>
>>If you do a proper shutdown, init will close all running
>>processes before unmounting the filesystems. This should leave
>>the filesystem in a clean state for the next boot.
>
> ? I don't think that's what the original poster was asking about, but
> it's certainly true. Anyway, to try and answer James Ferguson's
> question, a great deal of activity will occur in the memory cache.
> However, the disk will be hit every so often, thanks to the "update"
> process that runs every 30 seconds or thereabouts to sync memory with
> disk, as well as the syslog daemon.
>
> If you want to change the update parameters so that the disk doesn't get
> hit as often, edit /etc/inittab and change the line that says
> "/sbin/update" to read something like "sbin/update -f TIME -s TIME".
> TIME is an integer number of seconds; you may set this to whatever you
> want but I wouldn't go up more than 3600. You can also call hdparm to
> spin the disk down after a certain time--man hdparm for the full scoop.
>
> This is probably unnecessary for a desktop system and may even be
> counterproductive, as hard drives are built to operate for long periods
> in full power-on mode, and frequent spinup/spindown can shorten the life
> of a drive. The main function of fiddling with hdparm and update's
> delay parameters is to allow laptop users to extend their battery life.
>
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