Linux-Misc Digest #256, Volume #25 Thu, 27 Jul 00 23:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: (no subject) (Arjan Drieman)
Re: SuSe kernel [was Re: Use "force" with rpm?] (John Hasler)
Re: Does VB and SQL work under linux? (Christopher Browne)
Re: How to set hardware time correctly from shell? ("Hello World")
Re: Linux and Netgear RT311--????? (brian moore)
Re: finding my hacks (Robert Heller)
Re: Linux & free ISPs (Robert Heller)
Re: Ethernet NIC Recommendation (Robert Heller)
Re: Install without floppy or CD? (Robert Heller)
Re: Ethernet NIC Recommendation ("Hello World")
RedHat 6.0 Internet Connection Problem ("Christopher E. Souter")
Re: Ethernet NIC Recommendation ("David ..")
Re: fixing MBR to see linux again (post Win2K install...) (Leonard Evens)
Re: user group in N Calif? ("David ..")
who is responsible for the cache? (Robert Schweikert)
Re: X-Window must die! What's alternative? (Karel Jansens)
where has the propaganda website gone? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Helix upgade trashed Sawfish ("Lloyd Llewelyn")
Re: Setting defaults for emacs font/geometry (William R. Mattil)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arjan Drieman)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: (no subject)
Date: 28 Jul 2000 01:17:46 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 15:50:20 -0400, Mail Admin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am also interested in a Web front end to these mailboxes....
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http://www.astray.com/acmemail/
OCSmail - Electronic web email system for your intranet.
http://www.obsidian.co.za/
Sake mail - high-end, highly-scalable web-based email package
Warning: Proprietary
http://www.endymion.com/
Vamp - PHP based web email client
http://undead.thegraveyard.org/?topic=vamp
All found through http://freshmeat.net/
Arjan
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SuSe kernel [was Re: Use "force" with rpm?]
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 00:17:33 GMT
J Bland writes:
> heh, if it's compiled for generic 386 or even pentium you're going to get
> better performance by compiling one for 686.
Quite a different thing from compiling out unneeded drivers.
> Not sure if there's a performance hit for using modules over compiled-in
> options.
A microscopic one each time the kernel loads a module.
> And, surely, the less the kernel has in it to think about the quicker it
> will be.
The kernel never thinks about drivers it never uses.
> If you're on a low RAM machine, saving a few hundred k can make a bit of
> difference to the size of your buffers.
As I said. Smaller, but not faster.
I'm not saying that you shouldn't compile your own kernel, but don't expect
any tremendous performance improvements unless you have exotic hardware or
very little memory.
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John Hasler
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Elmwood, Wisconsin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: Does VB and SQL work under linux?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 01:23:28 GMT
Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when YAWN would say:
>i am thinking of putting Linux on my laptop (32MB RAM, P200, 2.0GB),
>and i am wondering if i can run Visual Basics and SQL in Linux. the
>reason being that i have classes in school that require the usage of
>these softwares. i am aware of that i can run VMWare, but i don't
>think my hardware can handle it.
I wasn't aware of there being a product called "Visual Basics." There
are _several_ variations of something called "Visual BASIC" produced by
Microsoft; none of them run on Linux.
SQL is not the name of any piece of software; it is the acronym for a kind
of database query language. There are about 30 database systems that run
on Linux that support SQL, some even conforming to ANSI standards for SQL.
See the URL below for a listing thereof. Nearly all relational database
implementations for all sorts of platforms expect to have more memory than
you have on your laptop, although people have successfully run Oracle, one
of the more famous relational databases, on systems with 32MB of memory.
As for running VMware, don't bother trying in 32MB. I have heard of
success at running it in 64MB, albeit with some loss of performance;
to run it _well_, and actually have substantial Windows apps run, you
probably want 128MB or more.
If you are required, by your course, to run some specific software that
only runs on Windows, then I don't think you'll have much success using
Linux to try to satisfy those requirements.
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From: "Hello World" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.shell,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: How to set hardware time correctly from shell?
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 09:24:39 +0800
try
rdate -s ip-of-time-server
u can put it in rc.local so it will execute everytime the system starts
fred
"Charlie Zender" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ���g��l��
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> Hi,
>
> It seems like my laptop and desktop Linux machines are constantly
> set to the wrong time (because of multiboot OSs all correcting
> leap day etc.). In order to reset the time I have to go through
> a laborious procedure involving finding a trusted time source and
> executing a command like
>
> /sbin/hwclock --set --date="04/09/00 15:41:00"
>
> Question: Is there a simple, single command line way to reset
> the hardware clock to the NIST time in Linux?
>
> I checked the FAQ but couldn't find it.
>
> Thanks,
> Charlie
> --
> Charlie Zender [EMAIL PROTECTED] (949) 824-2987/FAX-3256, Department of
> Earth System Science, University of California, Irvine CA 92697-3100
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Crossposted-To:
comp.networks,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux and Netgear RT311--?????
Date: 28 Jul 2000 01:32:47 GMT
On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 22:20:50 GMT,
Julian Cook/Sherab Gyatso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello folks!
> I have a network I am trying to set up and I have wasted SO many hours
> and no results.
> One machine is Windows 98
> The other is a Linux box running Slackware 7
> Both machines are hooked into a Linksys 5 port workgroup hub
> The Router is a Netgear RT311
>
> This router has been great after some initial difficulty setting it up.
> The Win machine
> works great through it. My problem is setting up Linux and getting Linux
> to see the
> router..
>
> The IP of the Router is 192.168.0.1
>
> The Linux box uses a 3Com 509B NIC. The machine recognizes the card ok.
> (Other info, it's a
> Pentium 75)
>
> When I type 'netconfig'
> I put in these values .. hostname --> milarepa
> Domain name --> this is a complete mystery to me. It's a private
> network. What domain name? (I typed 'localnetwork' just for something to
> put in)
> The when given the options of Static IP, DHCP and loopback I selected
> DHCP
> Then I get the notification that "Your networking software has now been
> configured"
>
> Now on bootup after this (during startup), I get...
> "Attempting to configure eth0 by contacting a DHCP server"
> The corresponding hub light goes on during this period, the machine
> hangs for about
> 30seconds and then the light goes out and I get
> "Activating IPv4 packet forwarding"
> After logging in, I type in "ifconfig" and the only thing that shows up
> are the "lo" settings.
So do you have a DHCP server on your network?
If you do, why is it not answering?
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Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | If He used Emacs, He'd still be waiting
Usenet Vandal | for it to load on the seventh day.
Netscum, Bane of Elves.
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: finding my hacks
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 01:32:55 GMT
"robin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:33:37 +0000, wrote :
"> I'm not really used to the modern rpm world, but is there any way I can
"> find which of the important system files I have added or modified. I
"> thought about using find to look at all the files and then checking with
"> rpm which are no longer in a 'pristine' state.
">
Do a 'man rpm'. Here is the revalent except:
VERIFY OPTIONS
The general form of an rpm verify command is
rpm -V|-y|--verify [verify-options]
Verifying a package compares information about the
installed files in the package with information about the
files taken from the original package and stored in the
rpm database. Among other things, verifying compares the
size, MD5 sum, permissions, type, owner and group of each
file. Any discrepencies are displayed. The package spec-
ification options are the same as for package querying.
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux & free ISPs
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 01:32:56 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rasputin),
In a message on Thu, 27 Jul 2000 16:16:33 GMT, wrote :
R> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <Gerald Pollack> wrote:
R> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Robert Heller
R> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
R>
R> >> "G Pollack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
R>
R> >> Netzero does not provide shell access -- you need to set up a PPP
R> >> connection. Netzero sets you up with an special username and an
R> >> encrypted version of the password you provided. You need to set this up
R> >> in your Linux PPP config utility.
R>
R> >Thanks, but I'm still lost. If netzero encrypts the password, how do I get
R> >hold of the encrypted version so that I can send that to netzero when I
R> >log in? I'm not aware of any linux ppp config utility; for my other ppp
R> >connections (e.g. to my university's sysem) I simply use chat, and so far
R> >as I know, all that chat does is look for prompts from the server and
R> >respond appropriately, i.e. automate what I can also do via minicom. Am I
R> >missing something?
R>
R> Call them and find out if they use PAP or CHAP.
R> Plain text logins don't work with these protocols, so minicom will fail.
R> (Caught me out when I first used Linux)
R>
R> Once you know which one they use, you can set this up with
R> netcfg or linuxconf (Redhat and its spawn) or pppsetup (Slack).
R>
R> If you're worried they'll send the OS Police after you, just try one,
R> then the other. One should work.
They use PAP.
R>
R> --
R>
R> Rasputin.
R> Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns.
R>
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ethernet NIC Recommendation
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 01:32:57 GMT
Dennis D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Thu, 27 Jul 2000 21:36:16 -0400, wrote :
DD> Hello,
DD> I would like to add my Linux computer to my simple
DD> Ethernet home network. My computer is a Gateway
DD> 166 running RedHat 6.1. Does anyone have any suggestions
DD> on a NIC card that is known to work well with Redhat Linux?
DD>
DD> Any recommendations appreciated. Thanks in advance.
3Com
DD>
DD> Dennis
DD>
DD>
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Install without floppy or CD?
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 01:32:58 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards),
In a message on Thu, 27 Jul 2000 21:57:23 GMT, wrote :
GE> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andrew J. Perrin wrote:
GE>
GE> >We have an IBM laptop that runs Win95 at the moment, and we'd like to
GE> >install linux on it instead, preferably RedHat because that's what
GE> >we've got running elsewhere.
GE> >
GE> >The catch is, the floppy drive to the thing has long since
GE> >disappeared, and we don't have a CD ROM for it. It does have a
GE> >network connection, though, so we can mount a CD over the net.
GE>
GE> You've got neither a floppy nor a CD?
GE>
GE> You can use loadlin from Windows to boot an arbitrary kernel, but I don't
GE> know how you tell that kernel to get it's ramdisk image off the net (I don't
GE> think it's possible). You might be able to tell the kernel to get it's
GE> ramdisk image off the DOS partition somehow, but that's going to be tricky
GE> as well.
Loadlin can load a ramdisk as well as a kernel. It should *in theory*
be possible to load a kernal+ramdisk with the necessary drivers and
installer script to do everything else from the 'net.
GE>
GE> I'd try to borrow a floppy drive from sombody if I were you...
The only weirdness is: laptops had 'strange' little connectors -- you
will need to somehow interface to this connector.
You might need to get a cable or something from IBM ($$$).
These old IBM had this trip where the keyboard panel lifted and you
could remove the floppy / CDROM (if any) / hard drive out. And do some
mix and match games. I'm guessing someone once upon a time lifted the
floppy out and then it was lost...
GE>
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GE> at party -- My RIB CAGE is
GE> visi.com being painfully pressed up
GE> against someone's MARTINI!!
GE>
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From: "Hello World" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ethernet NIC Recommendation
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 09:32:26 +0800
3 com 3c905c or intel eepro 10/100
"Dennis D" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ���g��l��
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> Hello,
> I would like to add my Linux computer to my simple
> Ethernet home network. My computer is a Gateway
> 166 running RedHat 6.1. Does anyone have any suggestions
> on a NIC card that is known to work well with Redhat Linux?
>
> Any recommendations appreciated. Thanks in advance.
>
> Dennis
>
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From: "Christopher E. Souter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: RedHat 6.0 Internet Connection Problem
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 12:05:46 +1000
Hi
I'm running RedHat 6.0 with the GNOME desktop.
As recommended in most Linux installation and user guides I have
read, I have set up a normal user account for myself.
However, I have a problem getting kppp to work when logged in as a
normal user.
I can run kppp without any problem when logged in as root, but
when I log in as a normal user, kppp gives me an error message
something like this:
Error!
pppd is not properly installed!
The pppd binary must be installed
with the SUID bit set.
Contact your system administrator.
Then, when I try to set up kppp to dial my ISP, I can't even set
up the modem, regardless of what device I choose. I get another
error message:
Sorry, can't open modem.
Therefore, I can't access my ISP unless I log in as root.
Can anyone answer the following questions for me?
1. A. Why can I access the modem as root, but not as a user?
B. Can I fix this, and, if yes, how do I do it?
2. A. How do I install pppd with the SUID bit set?
B. What is the SUID bit, anyway?
I can't find the answers to these questions in any of the
documentation. I have looked in sag, nag, lug and install-guide.
If someone could at least tell me where to look for the
information I need, I'll be eternally grateful.
Best regards
Chris Souter
(Sydney, Australia)
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ethernet NIC Recommendation
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 20:56:16 -0500
Dennis D wrote:
>
>
> Any recommendations appreciated. Thanks in advance.
I use Linksys and 3com in all my systems.
The Linksys has to have the module compiled on the system but works
great after that.
--
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ID # 123538
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: fixing MBR to see linux again (post Win2K install...)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 20:52:58 -0500
colinr wrote:
>
> I had RedHat up and running real nice---dual booting between Linux and Win2K
> using LILO as boot manager.
> Then I reinstalled Win2K. Now it boots directly into Win2K without the
> slightest regard for Linux.
When you installed Linux, it should have given you the option of
creating a boot floppy. If you have that floppy, just boot from
it and rerun
/sbin/lilo
One warning though. The boot floppy can seem to take forever
to start booting. Give it time.
If you didn't create a boot floppy, boot from the installation
floppy or CD and at the boot: prompt enter
vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2
This assumes your root partition is hda2. If it is something
else, you can't hurt anything by experimenting. When you have
booted rerun /sbin/lilo as suggested above.
> I assume M$ was nice enough to overwrite my MBR info.
>
> How can I restore this? My kernel vmlinuz is on the third partition (I
> believe /dev/hda2)
hda2 would be the second partition. Since you might have
logical partitions inside an extended partition, it is hard to
say what the actual third partition would be. It could be
hda3 or hda5 or etc.
> I have access to rawrite, fips, restorrb, etc... I don't have an existing
> LILO bootdisk.
WHY NOT? Which version of RedHat were you running?
Next time use mkbootdisk to make one.
>
> What do I need to do to make things happy again?
>
> thanks,
>
> Colin
If for some obscure reason you can't boot as I suggested above,
it is possible to do it with a rescue disk. You can even use
the RH installation media for rescue, but it is a bit tricky.
Get back to us if the above measures fail.
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: user group in N Calif?
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 20:59:38 -0500
Potter Wickware wrote:
>
> Anyone know of a user's group where people get together in person to
> talk (and cry) in Marin County or SF?
Try a search at http://www.google.com/linux
For: San Francisco LUG
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From: Robert Schweikert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: who is responsible for the cache?
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 22:14:29 -0400
Hi all,
I've been fighting for a while now trying to build gcc-2.95.2 on RH6.2,
no luck yet. I have a few leads, one is that the L2 cache is getting
trashed. So I would like to find out who is responsible for the cache?
Is it the kernel, some libraries in the distro or some mysterious black
magic?
Any help, comments insight are appreciated. Also if there's a good trick
to get gcc-2.95.2 compiling on RH6.2 I'd like to know. I am pretty close
on just simply blaming it on RH. After all they must have had a reason
to stay with gcc-2.91.66 instead of shipping gcc-2.95 with the 6.2
release.
Thanks,
Robert
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Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 22:16:16 +0200
From: Karel Jansens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: X-Window must die! What's alternative?
John Hasler wrote:
>
> Hans write:
> > Is there X-Window alternative?
>
> Not really, but there are many window managers other than those included
> with the KDE and Gnome "desktop environments" that you appear to despise.
> I doubt you would like any of them though: they are not much like Windows.
How about the Berlin and GNUStep projects? Aren't those intended as
replacements for X?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: where has the propaganda website gone?
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 02:31:39 GMT
Anyone know where the propaganda website went to? I think it was a
linux site or unix, can't quite remember but they had some kewl
backgrouds and stuff to download.
they used to be at
http://propaganda.system12.com/welcome.html
thanks to anyone who can help
Joe
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Before you buy.
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From: "Lloyd Llewelyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.X
Subject: Re: Helix upgade trashed Sawfish
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 02:44:31 GMT
Hello -
Thanks for the reply.
> the configuration
> file for X and the WM files in my home directory. Upon a restart
> all was well.
I'm pretty new to linux (few weeks) - can you tell me which files I'm
looking for?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William R. Mattil)
Subject: Re: Setting defaults for emacs font/geometry
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 18:36:27 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Andrew J. Perrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Greetings-
>
>I have linux (debian) on a laptop whose screen is too small for the
>default font and geometry of emacs; I have to start emacs with the
>line:
>
>emacs -geometry 80x30 -font <very long font string here> &
>
>I'd like to set these as the defaults - I tried putting:
>
>emacs.font: <very long font strong>
>emacs.geometry: 80x30
>
>in ~/.Xresources
>
>but there's no change.
How about in .emacsrc ??? I cannot remember all of the details but
I think that was the file. man emacs should give you the details.
Regards
Bill
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