Linux-Misc Digest #274, Volume #25 Sat, 29 Jul 00 23:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Copying files without changing the timestamp? (Martha H Adams)
Re: hard drive hit (David Rysdam)
Re: hard drive hit (Bob Martin)
Re: cant return to xwindow? (dana)
Re: sendmail - 2 questions (Elliot)
Re: sendmail - 2 questions (Elliot)
Re: PCMCIA Network Card and kernel 2.4 (Bob Martin)
Re: help needed with a pcmpci modem (Bob Martin)
Re: Script help (Akira Yamanita)
Re: Internet access...slow ? (Fernando)
Re: Console font / resolution (Dances With Crows)
Re: Problem with the SiS Grapic Card (Neal Rhodes)
XLibs on a headless server (David Steuber)
Re: A troubling problem with GNOME and UID. (Prasanth A. Kumar)
Re: XLibs on a headless server (Grant Edwards)
Re: Conectiva Linux (Fernando)
Re: Oh no! (Andrew Purugganan)
Re: cant return to xwindow? (Carl Fink)
Re: NFS Problem (RTW)
Re: Conectiva Linux (Frank Arnold)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martha H Adams)
Subject: Re: Copying files without changing the timestamp?
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 01:15:58 GMT
Hi, I wonder what operating system environment you are working in? You
are in a Linux newsgroup but you use the term "folder" which I have not
seen as a Linux term.
If you are indeed in Linux, then look at your man pages for cp:
man cp
and read especially about your p and r options. Here is what this is:
'cp' is a Linux program for copying files or trees from one place to
another. The copying is nondestructive, that is, the files or trees
you copy from remain unchanged.
The p option is, preserve the file's time and date.
The r option is, recursive. That is, also copy the files under the one
that you named. As for instance, you named a directory, or, you told cp
to copy all of the files and directories in and below the node you named
or are in.
If you are new to Linux, then make some directories named foo1, foo2 and
etc, and copy files around to get an understanding and a feel for how cp
works.
An alternative or complementary resource is zip or gzip. You reduce a
collection of files to a single zipfile which you then move or copy to
your new site. A little more remotely relevant in my view, but definitely
worth looking at, is cpio.
Cheers -- Martha Adams
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From: David Rysdam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: hard drive hit
Date: 29 Jul 2000 20:25:07 -0400
Ron Nicholls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I am runnig redhat 6.2 on a stand alone dial up workstation.
>
> With no apps running and the machine idle, I get a brief hit on the
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> hard drive approximately every ten seconds.
>
> Is this normal.
Keep in mind that you probably have a dozen daemons and maybe X running.
--
My public encryption key is available from www.keyserver.net
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From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: hard drive hit
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 01:26:23 +0000
Ron Nicholls wrote:
>
> I am runnig redhat 6.2 on a stand alone dial up workstation.
>
> With no apps running and the machine idle, I get a brief hit on the
> hard drive approximately every ten seconds.
>
> Is this normal.
>
> Regards RonN
In a unix system, something is always running. The kernel syncs cached
data to file system periodically, also there are logging daemons
runnning that write to a log file.
--
Bob Martin
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From: dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: cant return to xwindow?
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 01:30:02 GMT
Thank you for the response. People like you are big help to those like us
learning. I am using Red Hat Linux 6.01 (Hedwig). I am also using a S3
Trio 3D/2x Video Card. Ive tried pressing ALT-F7 Sir but it wont work. I
think I switch it to something. It was selection like when you shut down
the system.
Good Day, Thanks....
Carl Fink wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 01:30:10 GMT dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >hello im a new user and still learning about linux. i was once able to
use
> >the function startx, and i just went to shutdown something and went
back
> >to like a windows dos prompt. when i use startx again it said that a
> >graphical error occured and waiting for x server to shutdown. how can i
go
> >back to x windows mode again?
>
> You need to post the exact error. It would also be nice if you
> posted what distribution of Linux (and what version) you're using.
> What hardware you have would be nice too.
>
> Oh, and try hitting Alt-F7. It's possible that X is running, but
> you're currently not looking at it.
> --
> Carl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Manager, Dueling Modems Computer Forum
> <http://dm.net>
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From: Elliot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: sendmail - 2 questions
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 01:30:03 GMT
Jan Schaumann wrote:
>
> > 2 With sendmail, how do you send out one of those 'I am away
until ..'
> > type letters, as well as storing the message until they return.
>
> You need "vacation" - look for it on freshmeat.
>
> -Jan
>
Thanks, I will get that.
Elliot
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From: Elliot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: sendmail - 2 questions
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 01:30:04 GMT
Thanks for this Mark. I did think of it, but one thing worried me -
perhaps you can explain the situation. I was worried that if I looked at
the mail with pine, it would be moved from the spool file to the inbox in
the users directory by pine. Had this happened, the user (I thought) would
never see the mail that I had left undeleted as they use Eudora POP3 and
this does not, as far as I know, look any further than /var/spool/mail/.
Is this not true? I am fairly new to mail servers!
Elliot
Mark wrote:
>
>
> 1. if they have login and paswd on the server you can su user then
> use pine to kill the e-mail.
>
> On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:30:03 GMT, Elliot
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Hi,
> >
> >1 I was asked today to remove a large message (with attachment)from
> >their /var/spool/mail/ file. They knew they had been sent it and didn't
> >want to download it over a slow link. The file also contained other
> >messages. I did this manually by chopping the section from the file
(with
> >vi). Is there a better way to do this?
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From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PCMCIA Network Card and kernel 2.4
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 01:30:15 +0000
Thomas Garsiot wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I was using kernel 2.2.16 and pcmcia-cs package with my xircom 2PS NIC.
>
> I recently tried to upgrade to 2.4.0-test5 and tried to use the pcmcia and
> pppoe modules.
>
> the kernel compiled without any problem, as well as the modules.
>
> When I boot, and then do a depmod -a, then modprobe xirc2ps_cs, everything
> seems to work fine.
>
> Then i try to turn the eth0 interface on by a ifconfig eth0 up, but i get an
> error message saying there's no such interface.
>
> I'm probably missing something obvious, but I don't know what.
>
> Is there anyway of testing the module without an ifconfig ?
>
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Thomas
You need to recompile and reinstall pcmcia when you upgrade the kernel,
it is a seperate app but dependent on the kernel version. see the pcmcia
howto.
--
Bob Martin
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From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: help needed with a pcmpci modem
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 01:33:57 +0000
michele wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I'm trying to install Linux on my Dell Latitude CPx laptop.
> Everything is fine except that I can't get the modem to work.
> The modem is a "RealPort 2 CardBus Modem 56 Win-GlobalACCESS"
> and when the pcmpci support gets loaded during the boot the modem
> gets locked up (red light on and "modem is busy" message from
> kppp if you try to use it).
>
> Any idea about how to set it up?
> Thanks in advance for your time
> Michele
Typically I think most laptops you buy come with winmodems which don't
work without windoze.
--
Bob Martin
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From: Akira Yamanita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Script help
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 01:29:03 GMT
"David .." wrote:
>
> Many Thanks to all who replied. I found the problem.
So what was the problem and the solution?
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From: Fernando <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Internet access...slow ?
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 21:44:35 -0500
If it is REALLY slow maybe you have an irq conflict.
Check/fix the parameters with setserial
BazD wrote:
> I have configured PPP to connect to the internet via KPPP and it
> connects fine at 56k but it does seem to be very slow and stalls on a
> regular basis.
>
> Do I need to configure something else to make it work better ?
>
> Baz
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
--
These are my personal opinions.
Email: sanabriaf at yahoo dot com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Console font / resolution
Date: 30 Jul 2000 01:51:48 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 00:24:16 GMT, Jeffrey Hood wrote:
>I am running a dual boot box with Windows 98 and Redhat 6.0... I can run X
>in 800x600, and 1024x768... a friend of mine uses the line:
>vga=792
>in his lilo.conf file, but I am using loadlin.exe to boot to Linux, and
>don't know how to get that command to run...
>Is there any way to specify a resolution without using lilo, and are there
>any other alternatives...
To be able to use the framebuffer modes (vga=792 is a framebuffer mode)
then you need to compile a kernel with framebuffer support enabled.
Then you can pass the option "vga=792" to LOADLIN by editing LINUX.BAT
on your DOS partition like so:
loadlin c:\vmlinuz vga=792
You can pass parameters to the kernel by just putting them right after
the C:\vmlinuz part of that .BAT file. Something to try would be
"vga=ask", which will give you a list of modes that your graphics card
supports. Enter the mode number you want when Linux boots, and the
console screen will have that mode (80x34, 100x37, 132x50, etc.)
SVGATextMode is unmaintained and you really shouldn't use it.
Further info can be found at http://linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Tyranny is always better organized
http://www.brainbench.com / than freedom.
=============================/ ==Charles Peguy
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Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 22:00:24 -0400
From: Neal Rhodes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem with the SiS Grapic Card
Here are the changes I made to get a Sis 5598 to work:
Section "Device"
Identifier "My Video Card"
VendorName "Unknown"
BoardName "Unknown"
#VideoRam 2048
# Option "noaccel"
#DON't USE: Option "hw_clocks" (just wiggles and jiggles)
#Option "sw_cursor"
#"no_linear" option is crucial to getting ok display
Option "no_linear"
#Option "no_bitblt"
#Option "no_imageblt"
Option "fifo_conservative"
#Option "pci_burst_on"
#Turned off these last two after David hung in on mahhjong
Option "fast_vram"
Option "ext_eng_queue"
Dances With Crows wrote:
>
> On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 21:30:05 GMT, Nightshade wrote:
> >I have been having troble trying to install my grapic card for linux
> >mandrake 6.5.
> >Its like just lots of blakc boxes in sted of the text and all the images
> >are just black.
> >The name of the grapic card is SiS 6326 and the company is SiS.
>
> SiS cards in general seem to have more than their fair share of
> problems. The first thing to try is to become root and run the program
> "xf86config". This is a text-based program that will ask you a bunch of
> questions about your card; answer them. You must use xf86config instead
> of XF86Setup or Xconfigurator because the Generic VGA server does not
> work with this card according to xfree86.org(!) Restart X by pressing
> Ctrl-Alt-Backspace.
>
> Still got the problem? Edit /etc/X11/XF86Config with a text editor
> ("pico /etc/X11/XF86Config" as root) and look for a line that says
> Section "Device"
> below that line, add the line
> Option "sw_cursor"
> and restart X again. If it still doesn't work, re-edit the file, and try
> adding the line
> Option "noaccel"
>
> If you do this and you're still getting the same problem, it's time to
> upgrade your Xfree86. There are directions at:
> http://xfree86.org/3.3.6/RELNOTES.html
> http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mhgraham/UpgradeXfree.html
>
> --
> Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
> Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Tyranny is always better organized
> http://www.brainbench.com / than freedom.
> -----------------------------/ --Charles Peguy
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Subject: XLibs on a headless server
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 02:00:02 GMT
Do I need the Xlibs on a machine that won't be acting as an X Server
but may run programs that have the DISPLAY set to another machine?
--
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--- Devon Miller
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: A troubling problem with GNOME and UID.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Prasanth A. Kumar)
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 02:04:20 GMT
Madhusudan Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi
> I am a rookie root on a Red Hat 6.2 system.
> I am facing a strange problem with a particular user on my system.
> Let us call him bob. His UID before all the trouble started, was 500.
> However, to ensure access to an NFS filesystem, I changed his UID to
> that on the other server (38078).
> Now he comes and tells me that he cannot start his GUI (GNOME) ! I
> asked him to login and what follows is an eyewitness account :
> 1. The password was accepted.
> 2. The Enlightenment WM "seemed" to start.
> 3. The file manager which usually launches upon login into GNOME did not
<snip>
The likely problem is that even though you changed the uid that he is
registered to him, the system doesn't change the ownership of all the
files owned by him automatically so when he logs in, he cannot access
any of the files owned under his former uid. To test this out, as
root, go to his directory and do a full listing (ls -al) and see what
the username is. If the uid is orphaned, then it will be the number
500 instead of his name. I don't know if the Gnome tool you used takes
this into consideration. If it didn't, then use the commmand line utility
usermod which does as follows: usermod -u <new_number> bob
However, even this utility doesn't do the uid changes outside their
how directory. For that, you need to manually change it using
something like the 'find' command.
--
Prasanth Kumar
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: XLibs on a headless server
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 02:10:20 GMT
On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 02:00:02 GMT, David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Do I need the Xlibs on a machine that won't be acting as an X Server
>but may run programs that have the DISPLAY set to another machine?
Yes.
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! CHUBBY CHECKER owns
at my BUILDING!
visi.com
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From: Fernando <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Conectiva Linux
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 22:16:44 -0500
Lonni J. Friedman wrote:
> Frank Arnold wrote:
> >
> > Conectiva Linux is possibly the most widely used linux in
> > Latin America. (http://www.conectiva.com/)
Not true.
Most used are RedHat and SlackWare
> Anyone know
> > where I could order a CD in the US?
>
> 1) Never heard of it
http://www.linux.org/dist/nonenglish.html
> 2) I wonder how many people actually have PC's, much less use Linux in
> Latin America.
Many.
You will not beleive but in Latin America there is also television,
internet, cars, microwaves, radio stations, palm pilots, etc
> 3) Stats that i've read indicate that TurboLinux is the most widely used
> Linux in Asia & Latin America. Where are you coming up with your claim?
TurboLinux is the most used in Asia but not in Latin America.
--
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Email: sanabriaf at yahoo dot com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Subject: Re: Oh no!
Date: 30 Jul 2000 02:33:33 GMT
Johnny Kitchens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
[ My sentiments......exactly
[ "blowfish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
[ news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
[ > And Red Hat is famous for buggie, crappy, unfinished products. And try
[ > to hide behind the disguise of being on the "bleeding edge" when it
[ > broke.
[ >
[ > If you choose Red Hat, you might as well stay with Windoz. Even Win 9.x
[ > is better than Red Hat, according to bugtraq.
WOuld the continued use if Mandrake or RH be harmful to the casual Linux
user though? Would this 'dll-hell' sort of problem affect only program
or software developers? I've managed to d/load & install RPMs from
rufus.w3.org, though I have to admit it's mostly binaries
All my attempts to compile always say
'c compiler can't create executables'
and that's only during the ./configure portion! Am I a hapless victim
already?
--
jazz
Registered linux user no. 164098 +--+--+--+ Litestep user no. 386
Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
--- OUT THERE??
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Subject: Re: cant return to xwindow?
Date: 30 Jul 2000 02:17:58 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 01:30:02 GMT dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Thank you for the response. People like you are big help to those like us
>learning. I am using Red Hat Linux 6.01 (Hedwig). I am also using a S3
>Trio 3D/2x Video Card. Ive tried pressing ALT-F7 Sir but it wont work. I
>think I switch it to something. It was selection like when you shut down
>the system.
What's the exact error you see when you type "startx &"?
I don't know Red Hat (I use Debian) so you might consider posting to
the redhat.* hierarchy of groups.
--
Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Manager, Dueling Modems Computer Forum
<http://dm.net>
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From: RTW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NFS Problem
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 02:49:35 GMT
I'm not an expert on NFS, but I did have a similar problem. Since security
dosen't seem to be an issue here, try this line in your /etc/exports:
/pipe (rw)
Good luck.
Dances With Crows wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 10:07:40 -0400, Stephen Gilbert wrote:
> >Ok, what the heck am I doing wrong? I have 2 Linux machines, and I'm
> >just trying to NFS mount a directory from one to the other. I have NFS
> >Server compiled into the kernel, I add the directory to /etc/exports.
> >
> ># cat /etc/exportfs
> >/pipe (rw,no_root_squash)
>
> ? The file is called /etc/exports under Linux... the "f" should
> probably not be there.
>
> >I run /usr/sbin/exportfs
> ># /usr/sbin/exportfs
> >/pipe <world>
> >
> >I go to the other machine, and try to mount
> ># mount machine:/pipe /pipe
> >mount: RPC: Unable to receive: errno = Connection refused
>
> Does /etc/hosts.allow allow the two machines access to the RPC services,
> and are portmapper, rpc.mountd, and rpc.nfsd running on your system?
> Even if you have kernel NFS acceleration, you need at least portmapper
> and rpc.mountd running. Just to test that it's not a permission
> problem, put the following line into /etc/hosts.allow:
>
> ALL : machine.to.test.this.on
>
> and cut back on that machine's priviliges later if you can't trust that
> machine.
>
> (You are seeing one of the reasons they call it the Nightmare File
> System!)
>
> --
> Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
> Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Tyranny is always better organized
> http://www.brainbench.com / than freedom.
> -----------------------------/ --Charles Peguy
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From: Frank Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Conectiva Linux
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 19:39:28 -0700
Thanks for the link, Fernando
I mistakenly sent a reply to Lonni rather than the
newsgroup explaining that computers are widely used
in Latin America by a variety of persons.
Even NGOs working with the rural poor are now going online.
Also, an internet cafe recently opened in Managua, Nicaragua,
one of the poorest countries in Central America.
Linux is the best operating system there as Micro$oft and
the Business Software Alliance have pressured many governments
there to put exhorbitant fines, even jail time, for users of
unauthorized copies of software. Files that could bankrupt
many small businesses.
Frank Arnold
On Sat, 29 Jul 2000, Fernando wrote:
>>> > Conectiva Linux is possibly the most widely used linux in
>> > Latin America. (http://www.conectiva.com/)
>
>Not true.
>Most used are RedHat and SlackWare
>
>> Anyone know
>> > where I could order a CD in the US?
>http://www.linux.org/dist/nonenglish.html
>
>> 2) I wonder how many people actually have PC's, much less use Linux in
>> Latin America.
>You will not beleive but in Latin America there is also television,
>internet, cars, microwaves, radio stations, palm pilots, etc
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