Linux-Misc Digest #394, Volume #25                Wed, 9 Aug 00 13:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Using Promise Technology Bios Upgrade / ATA-xx Cards with Linux (Andre-John Mas)
  Re: howto see all cdrecord multi-sessions (Paul Lew)
  Re: RTFM'ed to death.. (Roger Blake)
  Re: Open Games API? (Andreas Kahari)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (kristian ragndahl)
  kernel 2.2.16 and dosemu ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: USB Scanners (Leonard Evens)
  Re: USB Scanners (Wolfgang Fritz)
  Re: Allowing all users to access and write to a partition (Robert Clayton)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (John Hasler)
  insmod failed (Eric Y. Chang)
  Re: Allowing all users to access and write to a partition (Dances With Crows)
  Re: Open Games API? (brian moore)
  Re: INIT: Id "x" respawining too fast: disabled for 5 minutes -- and it won't stop! 
(Dave Brondsema)
  Re: Open Games API? (Wade Williams)
  Re: "Turbo" and X-windows. ("Martin Duspiva")

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From: Andre-John Mas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Using Promise Technology Bios Upgrade / ATA-xx Cards with Linux
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 14:59:05 GMT

Although the BIOS has a limit on the size of HD it can use
to boot off. The secondary HD, recognised by the booted OS,
depends only only what the OS can address.

Andre

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>     I have a Pentium 166 and a few 486 DX2-66 machines that
> can't presently take larger hard drives. I purchased a WD ATA-66
> 20.4 gb drive and an IBM 15 gb ATA-100 hard drive. I would
> like to use these with my machines. I have been considering
> some of the possible Promise technology plugin pc boards.
> One just gives a bios upgrade to be able to use larger than
> 8.4 gb drives. (Drive Max) The another board is an Eidemax II
> isa board that gives the bios upgrade to larger drives and gives
> ATA-66 ports. There is a PCI version , ULTRA-66 PCI and Ultra-33
> and Ultra-100.
>   Can I use any or all of these cards in my computers.
> If these boards can work, will they work right away or
> do I have to modify the Linux system for them to work.
> I, initially, would be happy without the speed upgrade
> if that would mean not, initially modifying the system
> just to allow the larger hard drives to work in it.
>
>                                                         Thanks
>
Mike
>
>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Lew)
Subject: Re: howto see all cdrecord multi-sessions
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 15:05:56 GMT

On 9 Aug 2000 02:50:58 GMT, Dances With Crows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Wed, 09 Aug 2000 01:55:05 GMT, Paul Lew wrote:
>>On 8 Aug 2000 21:31:36 GMT, Dances With Crows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>How was the second image generated?  Did you do something like:
>>>TRACK=`cdrecord -msinfo`
>>>mkisofs -r -J -C $TRACK -M /dev/scd0 -o image.iso /path/to/dir ?
>>
>>The 1st time I just generated without the msinfo or -M; then I found
>>the readme.multi and tried that.  It looks like your method implies that
>>BOTH the "cd directory" and the data for 2nd session are created at the
>>same time which is a bit different than what the readme.multi said.
>>As I interpreted the README.multi, the 2nd session is created
>>normally then the directory of the 1st image on the cd is merged to
>>the 2nd session image. The example in the README.multi:
>>
>>mkisofs -o isoimage_2.raw -R -C xx,yy -M /dev/"my cdwriter" first_dir.
>>The problem is the term "first_dir" and what it was or where...;
>>the explanations was not too clear at that point.
>
>OK, let's try an example:  You have data in /foo and data in /bar that
>you want to burn to a CD, so you do:
>  mkisofs -r -J -o test.iso /foo
>  cdrecord -multi test.iso
>Then, the CD will contain the contents of /foo.
>
>Then, you do:
>  TRACK=`cdrecord -msinfo`
>  mkisofs -r -J -C $TRACK -M /dev/cdwriter -o test2.iso /bar
>  cdrecord -multi test2.iso
>And the CD will now contain the contents of /foo and /bar.  The main
>confusion comes from the -C and -M required options for the 2nd and
>subsequent sessions.
>
>BTW, if you're trying to make a "CD-Plus" that has audio tracks on
>session #1 and data on session #2, you do it like so:
>  cdrecord -multi -audio track*.wav
>  TRACK=`cdrecord -msinfo`
>  mkisofs -r -J -C $TRACK -o test.iso /path/to/data/files
>  cdrecord test.iso
>HTH,
>

Ahhhh sooo,  Thank you very much!!

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roger Blake)
Subject: Re: RTFM'ed to death..
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 15:11:07 GMT

On Wed, 09 Aug 2000 14:36:33 GMT, Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>USB is still serial...

Yep, I should have been more specific and said RS232...

-- 
  Roger Blake
  (remove second "g" and second "m" from address for email)

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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc
Subject: Re: Open Games API?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Kahari)
Date: 9 Aug 2000 17:12:13 +0100

In article <8mrq53$ncj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Andre-John Mas  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
[cut]
> So, is there such an API in development, or are there any people
> out there interested in such a solution? Maybe the developers of
> these OSs could help push such an API?
>
> Andre

[A GNU/Linux answer comes here, someone else has to do the Macintosh
answer]

Freshmeat.Net has a separate Game SDK index. See
<URL:http://freshmeat.net/appindex/development/game%20sdk.html>.

Search The Source Forge at <URL:http://sourceforge.net/search/> for
"game API".

Search Google at <URL:http://www.google.com/linux> for "game SDK".

I think people are just lazy or bad programmers. If you want games to
happen, you'll have to write them.

/A

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From: kristian ragndahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: 9 Aug 2000 14:43:59 GMT

>>>>> "b" == blowfish  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

    b> Christopher Browne wrote:
 
    >> John Hasler isn't "like" a farmer.  He _is_ one, outright.
    >> 
    b> Yes, I found out from his reply. Nothing wrong with that. I
    b> enjoy outdoor life very much too.  I fly fish for rainbow
    b> trouts and steelheads in rapid waters, whenever I get the
    b> chance to get out of the big city.

    Hmm, i thought you were more into trolling.
    BTW, you've really picked a suitable nickname...

-- 
kristian ragndahl, http://www.ragndahl.cx/


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: kernel 2.2.16 and dosemu
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 10:37:47 -0500

dosemu (0.98) had been working just fine for me with linux kernel 2.0.34.
However, when I boot with a 2.2.16 kernel it doesn't work at all.  No
error messages, no nothing.  It tells me my CPU and CPU speed, and then I
get my shell prompt back.  Is there something in my kernel config that I
might have neglected to set?  So far, the kernel seems to work ok with
everything else (ppp, lp, cdrom).  I would like to get this settled in my
own mind, one way or another, before I upgrade to dosemu 1.01

Steve
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: USB Scanners
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 10:32:28 -0500

Stephen Hui wrote:
> 
> Is there a resource for setting up and/or using USB scanners in Linux?
> I checked linuxdoc.org, but all they had were for USB digitizer tablets
> (if only my tablet were USB...).  I'm assuming that some kernel supports
> USB since there are HOWTO's for USB tablets, but please correct me if
> I'm wrong.
> 
> Thanks,
> Stephen.
> 
> --
> Stephen Hui, ARL:UT, Austin, Texas
> 
> Computer Terms: Programmer - A red-eyed, mumbling mammal
> capable of conversing with inanimate objects.

Go to the SANE web page:

www.mostang.com/sane

You will find that there are Linux drivers for some scanners with
USB interfaces.   I glanced at the link for some popular Epson
scanners.  It appears that one would have to do some fiddling
because the 2.2 Linux kernels don't generally have sufficient
support for USB, although the 2.3 developmental kernels do.
There are explanations of how to incorporate these changes in
a 2.2. kernel.  Of you can wait until the 2.4 stable kernels
are released.   These should definitely have sufficient USB
support.   Also, the most up to date 2.2 kernel may also have
such support.
-- 

Leonard Evens      [EMAIL PROTECTED]      847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208

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From: Wolfgang Fritz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: USB Scanners
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 18:17:38 +0200

Stephen Hui wrote:
> 
> Is there a resource for setting up and/or using USB scanners in Linux?
> I checked linuxdoc.org, but all they had were for USB digitizer tablets
> (if only my tablet were USB...).  I'm assuming that some kernel supports
> USB since there are HOWTO's for USB tablets, but please correct me if
> I'm wrong.
> 
> Thanks,
> Stephen.
> 

Try http://www.mostang.com/sane/ 
That's the main Linux scanning page, you'll find links to USB scanners
too.
The linux USB page is at http://www.linux-usb.org/

I have an EPSON Perfection 1200U. Works perfectly.

Wolfgang

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From: Robert Clayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Allowing all users to access and write to a partition
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 12:10:07 -0400

I had a similar problem.  I thought the solution was to create a group of users
and chgrp the FAT partition.  Well I found out that you can't chown, chgrp, or
chmod files on an mounted FAT.  I was told that SUDO was the answer, to allow
temporary root priveleges to these people to write to the FAT partition.  I
have yet to try it, but thought I would pass that on.

Hope that helps,
RCC


Chew GH wrote:

> I am running RH6.1 and win98 on my computer. I have set aside a FAT32
> partition (/dev/hda9) for files that can be accessed and modified by all
> users and mounted it at boot time under /mnt/pub with this line in fstab:
>
> /dev/hda9   /mnt/pub   vfat    defaults,user 0 0
>
> However, not all users are able to create files in that directory other than
> root. Chmod 777 /mnt/pub only changes the permissions of that directory when
> it's unmounted, but not when it is mounted already. It is troublesome, as a
> normal user, to unmount /dev/hda9 and mount it again so that files can be
> written. How do I allow writing of files to /mnt/pub for all users at the
> same time?

--
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 15:05:53 GMT

Phil Hunt writes:
> What was this opportunity to make $25k?

The VA IPO.  All the Debian developers were named "friends of the company"
and given a chance to buy in at the IPO price (and unlike Etrade and the
Red Hat IPO, Deutches Bank didn't bungle it).

Seen from before the event it looked much more like an opportunity to make
$2500, though.  Getting in at the IPO price on any reasonable offering is
pretty much free money, but a seven-fold run-up in a few days is a bit
unusual.
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Y. Chang)
Subject: insmod failed
Date: 9 Aug 2000 16:49:32 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi.  I am having some problems with insmod.  I have a 3com 3c507
ethernet card.  It ran fine under kernel 2.0 insmod.  Recently,
I upgraded to a distribution which has kernel 2.2 on it.  The
insmod fails.  The command I used was:

insmod 3c507.o

An error message is printed:

init_module: Device or resource busy

After the command failed, the mouse stopped working (serial).
Actually, it became very slow.  lsmod showed no modules available
to remove, and rmmod failed, since there were no modules.  This
is not correct.  Something is wrong, since the mouse does not
work.  After the machine is rebooted, the mouse works again, and
everything is OK.

This is a classic interrupt conflict problem, supposedly easily
solved with insmod 3c507.o irq=<free irq>.  This fails in the
same way, however.  Oddly enough, the 3c507.c code appears to
be bomb-proof in this respect, since it searches for a free
interrupt, and drops out, after cleaning up, with an error
message.  This cannot happen.  But, there is a scary comment
saying that if this cleanup routine is not called, the interrupt
will be destroyed until reboot.  Fortunately, the developer was
smart enough to include this cleanup in any exit path.

Note that the same problems occur with modprobe, and with
/etc/conf.modules if you set alias eth0.  Note also that these
problems did not occur with the older kernel.  insmod, modprobe
and alias worked just fine.

It is hard to determine whether the problem was coming from 3c507.o
or from insmod.  I tried building a kernel and found out that
3c507.o cannot print such a string (busy, see above).  There is
no such string in strings output, .h files or .c files.  It is not
possible to hunt this down in insmod, since insmod has been stripped.

strace reveals that init_module() is being called, but it is not
the one in 3c507.c, since I put a printk() statement in the kernel,
and that should have fired.  Nothing was printed.  This indicates
that the init_module() in 3c507.c is not being called, which is not
surprising.  The "mod" tools are apparently failing before the
execution path ever reaches the actual module.

Could anyone give me some help, or, else tell me how to continue
debugging?  I am not afraid to get my hands dirty, but I do not
want to break out the logic analyzer.  (Been there, done that,
need salary :-)).

Eric




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Allowing all users to access and write to a partition
Date: 9 Aug 2000 16:55:18 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Wed, 09 Aug 2000 12:10:07 -0400, Robert Clayton wrote:
>Chew GH wrote:
>> I am running RH6.1 and win98 on my computer. I have set aside a FAT32
>> partition (/dev/hda9) for files that can be accessed and modified by all
>> users and mounted it at boot time under /mnt/pub with this line in fstab:
>> /dev/hda9   /mnt/pub   vfat    defaults,user 0 0
>> However, not all users are able to create files in that directory
>> other than root. Chmod 777 /mnt/pub only changes the permissions of
>> that directory when
>I had a similar problem.  I thought the solution was to create a group
>of users and chgrp the FAT partition.  Well I found out that you can't
>chown, chgrp, or chmod files on an mounted FAT.  I was told that SUDO
>was the answer, to allow

Nope.

mount -t vfat /dev/hda9 /mnt/dos -o umask=000

HTH, HAND, "man mount".

-- 
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Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin /   Tyranny is always better organized
http://www.brainbench.com     /    than freedom.
=============================/              ==Charles Peguy

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc
Subject: Re: Open Games API?
Date: 9 Aug 2000 16:59:17 GMT

On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 11:10:22 -0400, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Isn't openGL supposeed to fit this ?
> My understanding ( limited, though ) was that something written with openGL
> calls could be easily recompiled for whichever OS supported it.
> 
> Eg. the Trek based network game . I forget what it's called, but for working
> in windows, I need the mesa library to compile it...

The graphics stuff, yes.  But there's also sound, joysticks, etc, that
need to be accounted for.  Oh, and "3D" isn't the only sort of game
about -- there are tons of amazingly cool 2D games.

For cross-platformness, one of the main tools (other than brain power
:)) that Loki uses, SDL, is LGPL'd and runs on Windows and I believe the
Mac.  It provides access to all the usually game things such as sound
and joysticks.

Loki is also working with various sound card makers and other software
shops for a '3D sound API' to make programming for sound cards easier
and cross platform.

> >  So, is there such an API in development, or are there any people
> >  out there interested in such a solution? Maybe the developers of
> >  these OSs could help push such an API?

See SDL, OpenAL, etc...

-- 
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      Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker     | If He used Emacs, He'd still be waiting
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From: Dave Brondsema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: INIT: Id "x" respawining too fast: disabled for 5 minutes -- and it won't 
stop!
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 16:50:35 GMT

In article <9g0k5.3172$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> tthe xfs warning : that means it is looking for that directory, and
it is
> not here, or it can't read it. I'm no biggie on X. I use the command
line
> moset of the time ( run level 3 )
>
> As for httpd, that sounds like Apache. You have a web server on your
> computer ?

Not yet, but I'm configuring it so it can be

> It seems to be trying to determine it's name from the ipaddress, and
> failing. "ServerName" is a directive in the apache httpd.conf file, I
think.

It is.  I found it and fixed it.  No httpd errors anymore.  Thanks.

>
> in your ./etc/hosts fine you should have something like this :
>
> 127.0.0.1   localhost localdomain
> < your internal static IP>  gateway
>
> What's there ?

127.0.0.1              gateway localhost.localdomain localhost

>
> There is another file in the /etc directory that specifies the dns
search
> order, but I forget what it is. Anyone ? (my memory isn't very good on
> this. )
> it should start with
> "order hosts," and have some other stuff attached, by default.
>
> However I suspect that these are not the lines that we are looking
for. Can
> you clear the messages file, reboot into run level 3 to see if things
work

I tried that and everything works fine.

>  and that the problem is just X ) ? then log in, and try
to "startx" , and
> see what it says ?
>
> startx > start.log

the startx command is not found.  I'm not too familiar w/ linux (but
I'm learning a lot through this), so there could be a startx executable
file somewhere, but I can't find it.

If I boot up into runlevel 5, I still get the respawning message.  When
I look into the log file, I don't see anything that looks like it could
be giving 'x' trouble.

>
> Honestly, I haven't a clue what is messing around ,  but that's what
I'd do
> to start my investigation .
>
> I sure would like to know what the problem is though .
>
> joseph
>
>

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From: Wade Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc
Subject: Re: Open Games API?
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 12:04:04 -0500

In article <8mrq53$ncj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andre-John Mas 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  So, is there such an API in development, or are there any people
>  out there interested in such a solution? Maybe the developers of
>  these OSs could help push such an API?

Unfortunately, it's not that simple.  Different platforms support 
different hardware, have different methods of handling sound, have 
different multitasking models, etc.

Such an API would be an enormous undertaking, and would likely be 
quickly discarded by developers because it didn't do things the way they 
wanted it done.  That is to say, if it did things in a non-optimal way 
on Windows to allow for Linux and the Mac, then Windows programmers 
would quickly ignore it and write Windows-specific code to do things the 
most optimal way.

Not to the mention the even more enormous task of trying to keep it up 
to date as 3 different operating systems change (4 OS's when MacOS X 
comes out).

Wade

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From: "Martin Duspiva" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: "Turbo" and X-windows.
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 19:09:09 +0200

Well, I guess the "turbo switch" won't work. Linux has its own keyboard
drivers and (almost) totally ignores BIOS...

>Hi Linux users!
>Was browsing through Award BIOS setup on motherboard that I intended to
>buy when I came to "Ctrl+Alt+ +/-" as a way to
>change the "Turbo" status.
>OK I know this from past, but to find it on mobo which boasts 112M bus
>clock was a little odd.
>Anyway, how would this affect the changing of resolution in X-windows
>and what will respond to it - mobo speed or screen or both?
>Thanks for answers...
>--
>    Stanislaw on Slak 7.1
>Registered on Linux counter No.162760.
>Even put Ulladulla on their database.



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