Linux-Misc Digest #455, Volume #25               Tue, 15 Aug 00 17:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Anyone have info on how to setup a dial-in server (Kevin E Cosgrove)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
  How to disable CTRL-ALT-DEL restart in console mode? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: virtual directories in linux??? (Tony Lawrence)
  Re: virtual directories in linux??? (Jason)
  rh 6.2 x configuration ("Jeff Audette")
  Re: How to disable CTRL-ALT-DEL restart in console mode? (Jan Johansson)
  Re: Adding a path to /etc/man.config (Steve Juranich)
  Re: why suid'ed shutdown refuses to run? (M. Buchenrieder)
  Re: How to disable CTRL-ALT-DEL restart in console mode? ("Andy")
  Re: newbie: adding users/ changing passwords... (Tony Lawrence)
  CD/ROM? ("EPIC")
  Re: CD/ROM?
  Re: LILO malfunction ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  fixed ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: LINUX / Win98 Dual Boot Hard Drive STUTTER! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: fixed (ray)
  Re: drive or controller problem? (Dances With Crows)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin E Cosgrove)
Subject: Re: Anyone have info on how to setup a dial-in server
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:10:38 GMT

Start with the Mgetty documentation.

http://alpha.greenie.net/mgetty/index.html

Good luck...

> Does anyone know where I can find documents on how to setup a dial-in
> server on Redhat 6.2


-- 
Unless otherwise noted, the statements herein reflect my personal
opinions and not those of any organization with which I may be affiliated.

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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 13:11:34 -0700

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> > So. You're leeching off a free service. ;-)
> 
> Agsin. How am I leeching off a free service when the service isn't FREE?
> Grrrr... Learn to read you total moron!
> 
> >> >> > It's not how much you have to spend that matters. It's not the case.
> >> >>
> >> >> What, then, is the case that makes me a freeloader.
> >> >>
> >> > Freenet. Somebody is funding it, even if you don't have to pay for it.
> >>
> >> Telephone charges fund it. That's how it works at the moment.
> 
> > So now you admitted it. You're leeching off, getting a free ride.
> 
> Errrr... How does "telephone charges fund it (that I'M PAYING) equate to
> leeching???
> 
Yeah.  I'm paying an average of $300.00USD a month for my telephone charges too,
plus my DSL and internet access charges from the same telco.

If you're not paying for your access. You're leeching.


> I think you need to go back to school and learn a little bit of that reading
> comprehension. You seem to be able to understand individual words but can't
> grasp the meaning of sentences.
> 
I can comprenend just fine. thank you very much.

> > A bot?  No. I don't even watch sci-fi movies. Never like those tech stuff.
> 
> *sigh*
> Now he claims not to even know what a bot is...
> It's a program that parses english and attempts to come back with a
> reasonable reply. You're obviously in the pre-alpha stages of developement.

Only humanoids and machineheads use the term "bot." ;-)

> 
> --
> ______________________________________________________________________________
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> |     Computer Science     |     Arnold Judas Rimmer- Red Dwarf              |
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

-- 
- Alex / blowfish.- Just an average, whimpy, non-geek American computer user.
  (Have Fun with geek's culture:-Version
2.4-pre-release99999-test-1234567.pre-beta5000.)
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his hands,
  lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his time.
  But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which takes
  Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
  geek + vi | ~/emacs ==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
  newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSzzzzz!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female deer.)
RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
  Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A needle
pulling thread.)
  lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That will bring
us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh.

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: How to disable CTRL-ALT-DEL restart in console mode?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 15 Aug 2000 15:21:30 -0500

I have a series of linux and NT machine connected to a multi KVM switch and
I'd like to disable the CTRL-ALT-DEL restart 'feature' on the linux boxes.
Under NT CTRL-ALT-DEL is of course the key combo for logging in and I want
to ensure no one does one, when they mean to do the other on another 
machine.  Any suggestions?

-Andy

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From: Tony Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: virtual directories in linux???
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 16:19:40 -0400

Jason wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Would anyone know how to create a virtual directory in linux?  I'm
> assuming that's what I need to do anyway.  I need a directory that
> automatically redirects you to another directory.  (the little ~ in a
> directory listing).
> At least give me the address of a good FAQ anyway?  Thanks loads!


That would be a symbolic link.  Useful for directories and
for files that need to be on different filesystems.

ln -s /path-to-directory-that-exists
/path-you-want-to-point-to-that-with

example:

ln -s /tmp /tempfiles

-- 
Tony Lawrence ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
SCO/Linux articles, help, book reviews, tests, 
job listings and more : http://www.pcunix.com

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From: Jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: virtual directories in linux???
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 16:17:37 -0400

That's the one!  I need to brush up on my unix commands.  :-)

Thanks.
Jason

Cannon Fodder wrote:

> Are you talking about symbolic links?
>
> ln -s /source-dir /dest-dir
>
> On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, Jason wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Would anyone know how to create a virtual directory in linux?  I'm
> > assuming that's what I need to do anyway.  I need a directory that
> > automatically redirects you to another directory.  (the little ~ in a
> > directory listing).
> > At least give me the address of a good FAQ anyway?  Thanks loads!
> > Jason
> >
> >
> >
> >


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From: "Jeff Audette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: rh 6.2 x configuration
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 13:21:39 -0700

I just installed a red hat 6.2 server, and when I start an x session, (with
gnome or kde)the system constantly accesses the disk at about 1 sec
intervals.

As soon as you exit the x session it stops, I can't see a process in the kde
top utility that is doing any i/o

Any ideas why?

everything else about the server is tha same an any other one i built, I
installed mandrake 7.1 on the same box, and it did not do it.

Thanks
Jeff



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From: Jan Johansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: How to disable CTRL-ALT-DEL restart in console mode?
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:20:33 GMT

On 15 Aug 2000 15:21:30 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>I have a series of linux and NT machine connected to a multi KVM switch and
>I'd like to disable the CTRL-ALT-DEL restart 'feature' on the linux boxes.
>Under NT CTRL-ALT-DEL is of course the key combo for logging in and I want
>to ensure no one does one, when they mean to do the other on another 
>machine.  Any suggestions?

Just comment it out of /etc/inittab

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From: Steve Juranich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Adding a path to /etc/man.config
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 13:00:37 -0700

The way that I interpret the man.config manpage, it appears that you can
just edit it by hand.  Give it a shot and see if it works. Just be sure to
backup the old (i.e., working) file before you go mucking around with it. ;)

======================================================================
Stephen W. Juranich                         [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Electrical Engineering         http://students.washington.edu/sjuranic
University of Washington             http://rcs.ee.washington.edu/ssli


On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, D. D. Brierton wrote:

> I'm running Mandrake 7.1. Several rpm packages I've installed lately put
> their man pages in /usr/share/man, however /etc/man.config contains no
> MANPATH statement for that path and consequently man cannot find the new
> manpages.
> 
> My /etc/man.config contains the following comment at the beginning,
> however:
> 
> #
> # Generated automatically from man.conf.in by the
> # configure script.
> #
> 
> My question, then, is should I edit /etc/man.config by hand to contain
> the following two lines:
> 
> MANPATH       /usr/share/man
> MANPATH_MAP   /usr/bin        /usr/share/man
> 
> or should these changes be made elsewhere and then some configure script
> be run? The advantage of the latter would be that should /etc/man.config
> be automatically regenerated it will contain these changes. I could not
> locate a file man.conf.in to which the above comment appears to refer
> anywhere on my system.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Best,
> 
> Darren
> 
> -- 
> ======================================================================
> D. D. Brierton       Department of Philosophy, University of Edinburgh
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]                    http://www.cogsci.ed.ac.uk/~ddb
> ======================================================================
> 
> 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: why suid'ed shutdown refuses to run?
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 14:49:11 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>I am experimenting with the suid stuff. In an experiment
>I create a script /bin/shutdown which just exec /sbin/shutdown.

This is a bad idea to begin with
(Not the /sbin/shutdown call, but the setUID script).

>The script is set root ID. 

[...]

Luckily, the Linux kernel is smart enough to properly detect  
this and ignores the setUID bit on scripts that are not
calling a setUID-aware shell (like, e.g., sperl).

Simple answer: Don't do it. SetUID scripts are such a huge
security risk that you should never get the habit of using it
even if you were using a system that supported it.
What you want is writing a wrapper program to call the
command in question, or (easier) using "sudo" for this task.

Michael
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From: "Andy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: How to disable CTRL-ALT-DEL restart in console mode?
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 22:27:46 +0200

You have do put a # in /etc/inittab before the line which calls the
shutdown-command, I don't remember exactly how it looks like.

Bye Andy


<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I have a series of linux and NT machine connected to a multi KVM switch
and
> I'd like to disable the CTRL-ALT-DEL restart 'feature' on the linux boxes.
> Under NT CTRL-ALT-DEL is of course the key combo for logging in and I want
> to ensure no one does one, when they mean to do the other on another
> machine.  Any suggestions?
>
> -Andy



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From: Tony Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: newbie: adding users/ changing passwords...
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 16:32:35 -0400

Geir wrote:
> 
> Is it possible to add a new user and give the new user a password in one
> single command?
> 
> I know that I can do:
> 
> "adduser newuser"
> 
> and then
> 
> "passwd newuser"
> 
> to change the password manually (when logged in as root).
> However, the "passwd"-command asks you to type the password, and I would
> like to be able to specify the password on the commandline; something
> like this:
> 
> "passwd newuser newpasswd",
> 
> this would the set "newuser" password to "newpassword". How can this be
> done?

You can make two simple scripts that do the job for you:

#!/bin/sh
# myadduser script
# usage : myadduser name password
useradd $1
expass $1 $2


This is the "expass" script called by the first script:

#!/usr/bin/expect -f
set password [lindex $argv 1]
spawn /bin/passwd [lindex $argv 0]
expect "assword:"
send "$password:\r" 
expect "assword:"
send "$password:\r" 
expect eof 

-- 
Tony Lawrence ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
SCO/Linux articles, help, book reviews, tests, 
job listings and more : http://www.pcunix.com

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From: "EPIC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: CD/ROM?
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 15:14:22 -0500

Can anyone tell me what SCSI CD/Rom would be compatible with LINUX.
Every CD/Rom I look at says 95/98/NT.

Thank you, Tom
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: CD/ROM?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:49:56 GMT

On Tue, 15 Aug 2000 15:14:22 -0500, EPIC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Can anyone tell me what SCSI CD/Rom would be compatible with LINUX.
>Every CD/Rom I look at says 95/98/NT.

They all are.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: LILO malfunction
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:44:37 GMT

I'm seeing the same thing using a 9GB SCSI disk.  Do the same 'fixes'
apply to LILO when using a SCSI disk?

--

In article <8n50vt$bc0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  "Jeff Muse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hope you made a boot disk, 'cuz you're gonna need it. Boot off your
floppy
> and look at /etc/lilo.conf.
>
> When LILO hangs at LI, that means that it lost the secondary boot
loader,
> which should be /boot/chain.b, or maybe /boot/boot.b - I don't know
which RH
> uses. This secondary boot loader is what reads and uncompresses the
kernel.
> It should be listed in the first section of /etc/lilo.conf and say
something
> like install = /boot/boot.b. If it doesn't, that's why LILO can't find
the
> secondary loader.
>
> If it does have the install line, then about the only thing you can do
is
> make a separate boot partition - about 10 MB is plenty - and copy
everything
> in /boot over to it. Then edit /etc/lilo.conf to reflect the new
location of
> the boot image and type "lilo" at a command line. You should get some
sort
> of a message reflecting the changes you made. Then try rebooting off
your
> hard drive, and it should work. Sometimes your problem happens with an
older
> BIOS, so this could be a sign you need to upgrade.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Jeff Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I am really not sure what this is, but I have seen it on multiple
> > occasions:
> >
> > the computer boots and says "LI" instead of "LILO:" and you can't do
> > anything. I think you can take a distribution cd and fix it by doing
an
> > upgrade of nothing, but there has to be a better way. Is GRUB a
better
> > option? I think Mandrake 7.1 uses it. Right now I am using RedHat
6.1.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jeff Davis
> >
>
>


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: fixed
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:42:58 GMT


> I am using SuSE 6.3 2.2.13 kernel + pilot-link version 0.9.4 + jpilot
> 0.95.  When I try to access the pilot, the same problem occurs
>
> pilot-xfer -l
> Unable to bind to port '/dev/pilot'.
>
> jpilot gives an error-message when i try to hotsync:
> pi_bind: Das Argument ist ungueltig (means invalid argument)

the problem was a faulty serial configuration - the defaults didn't work
- i had to give the i/o-adress explicitly in the arguments of setserial.

Armin


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: LINUX / Win98 Dual Boot Hard Drive STUTTER!
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:54:10 GMT

I've had similar problems like yours in the past.  The timing of it all
is purely coincidental, I think.  I've been using Linux now for many
years and have yet to see it be the cause of hardware trouble.  The only
thing Linux may do is point out faulty hardware.  You'll see problems
while compiling kernels if you have things jumpered the wrong way.
Things like that.

My problem was my motherboard's IDE bus was slowly breaking.  My drive
would show symptoms not unlike yours.  Sometimes it would spin down
completely, sometimes it would sound as it someone took a light switch
to it and kept flipping it on and off (spinning down and up rather
quickly).

Before you ditch Linux (which you shouldn't do), I'd make sure you're
not really experiencing hardware trouble.

--

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  lurp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Okay we have all seen wierd problems associate with LINUX.
> But I am close to giving up on LINUX TOTALLY.
>
> I have a DUAL BOOT system 133Mhz 4.2Gig HDD 24M RAM and am USING
> LINLOAD.EXE as my boot strap.
>
> Okay Now you know what I have...now here is the problem...
> Before I installed LINUX RedHat 6.1 I had Win98 installed as a sole
> operating system on my HDD.  The HDD worked fine..But since I
installed
> LINUX RH6.1 as a SECOND operating system on my IDE Hard Drive my HDD
has
> been experiencing SPIN DOWN's  ... It would act as if it was trying to
> read some DATA then in a deteriating fashion the HDD light would
STEADILY
> BE ON and then a few seconds later I could hear the HDD WIND DOWN
> completely with NO SIGNS OF LIFE...
>
> I don't know if it is somehow related to LILO ( which during the
> installation process I told it to install in the "/boot "  dir NOT the
MBR)
>
> Sometimes the HDD would pause and start up (WIND UP) again and read
DATA
> again until it felt like it.
>
> ANY IDEAS?  and NO it's not the HARD DRIVE!...
>
> --
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> http://www.help.com/
>


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From: ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: fixed
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 21:02:33 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> > I am using SuSE 6.3 2.2.13 kernel + pilot-link version 0.9.4 + jpilot
> > 0.95.  When I try to access the pilot, the same problem occurs
> >
> > pilot-xfer -l
> > Unable to bind to port '/dev/pilot'.
> >
> > jpilot gives an error-message when i try to hotsync:
> > pi_bind: Das Argument ist ungueltig (means invalid argument)
>
> the problem was a faulty serial configuration - the defaults didn't work
> - i had to give the i/o-adress explicitly in the arguments of setserial.
>
> Armin
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

Well, yeah, but we also need to have a dev/pilot that points to the right
place. Like this:
If your cradle plugs in on the second serial,
ln -s /dev/ttyS1 /dev/pilot

--
Ray R. Jones
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
HTTP://gordo.penguinpowered.com
Ray's Linux gordo.penguinpowered.com 2.4.0-test2




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: drive or controller problem?
Date: 15 Aug 2000 21:03:26 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Tue, 15 Aug 2000 13:25:20 -0400, Paul Cullum wrote:
>I've got a problem that I think is my hard drive.
>While it was
>shutting down I got some fairly low level messages to the effect that it
>was having problems reading/writing to a whole bunch of sectors.
[snip]
>I booted from the rescue disk and installed LILO.  I can now get the
>LILO boot: prompt but when I try to boot Linux it seems to fail and I
>get the following code displayed:
>0x10
>What is this trying to tell me?  Running fsck also still finds errors on
>/dev/hda3. (Which is ext2fs BTW.)
>Is there something I can to make this drive usable again?

0x10 is the code for "CRC Error" meaning that there's probably something
physically wrong with the disk.  LILO's docs suggest running the map
installer (/sbin/lilo) again to try and put the loading map in a
different physical spot on the disk.  However, I would seriously think
about replacing the drive... modern drives dynamically re-map marginal
sectors, and if your drive has run out of known good sectors to map
marginal sectors to, your drive is on its last legs.  Also, the average
useful life of an IDE drive is 3 years....


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