Linux-Misc Digest #547, Volume #25 Thu, 24 Aug 00 16:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: howto configure linux kernel? (Dances With Crows)
Re: Operating system file name restrictions? Where? (Michael Thibault)
Re: HELP afio<->iomega zip problems? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Where to install apps on Linux system? ("Luc Van Bogaert")
Re: KDE and Gnome (Dances With Crows)
Re: HELP afio<->iomega zip problems? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
IBM has released SashXB on Gnome.org ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: marking 'bad' sectors? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: If XWin hang, how to kill it ("Peter T. Breuer")
NEWBIE-Shell scripting - When to use script variable vs. create tmp file??? ("Ken
Abrahamsen")
Re: FYI: Applix vs. StarOffice vs. WP8 for Linux.... (Grant Edwards)
good oracle tools for Linux? (Peter Bismuti)
Re: marking 'bad' sectors? (-ljl-)
Re: Operating system file name restrictions? Where? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: XWindow Managers (paul simdars)
Re: SYSLOGD Hangs ("Kart")
Re: XFree86 vs Windows (Donovan Rebbechi)
psrinfo equivalent in linux (Ben Kim)
Re: Which kernel for Athlon? (Kyle Parfrey)
Re: NFS umount problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Distro change: To debian or SuSE ?? (Kyle Parfrey)
Re: commands hanging in RH6.1 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Where to install apps on Linux system? (-ljl-)
shutdown command for a single user (Josef Zellner)
APM BIOS access on TP 600x ("Chris Zimmermann")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: howto configure linux kernel?
Date: 24 Aug 2000 18:12:06 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 13:14:10 -0400, Dan Cernat wrote:
>Probabely this is something pretty easy, but I cannot figure out how to do
>it. I am new with Linux and I am trying to install the Oracle 8 server on my
>machine. In the installation guide, they say that I have to perform some
>tasks as the root user, such as configure LINUX Kernel. Mainly, I have to
>"set the kernel parameters" : SHMMAX, SHMMIN and others. How do I do that. I
>assume that these parameters should be placed in a file or somewhere in
>order to be set everytime the system boots up. Any Ideas?
echo 750000000 >/proc/sys/kernel/shmmax
...goes in /etc/rc.d/rc.local on a RH system, /sbin/init.d/boot.local on
a SuSE system. The Oracle install docs are... badly configured. It
really surprises me how easy it was to get MySQL running ("rpm -Uvh
MySQL*.rpm && /sbin/init.d/mysql start") in comparison. Oh yeah, don't
forget to use strace on some of the scripts if they die horribly...
IIRC, there were a couple of environment variables that got set wrongly
in my case, including $ORA_NLS33 (should be set to $ORACLE_HOME/ocommon/
nls/admin/data ) and the scripts coughed out totally unrelated error
messages. Forget the Java Net8 Assistant--the last time I saw something
crash so horribly so many times was while using MS stuff. Configure the
text files in $ORACLE_HOME/network/admin/ with a text editor, using the
stuff in the "samples" directory as a guide.
Oh yes, and may Larry have mercy on your soul....
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Those who do not understand Unix are
http://www.brainbench.com / condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
=============================/ ==Henry Spencer
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Thibault)
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.programmer.help,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,microsoft.public.windowsnt.misc
Subject: Re: Operating system file name restrictions? Where?
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 13:55:03 -0400
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mark Day <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>For the truly anal retentive
That should be "anally retentive", of course. ;)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: HELP afio<->iomega zip problems?
Date: 24 Aug 2000 14:12:45 -0400
Axel Scheepers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello there,
> I use the iomega zip drive as a backup medium for my home partition on my
> linux server. For compression reasons i use the afio program in the
> following way:
> find ${DIR_TO_BACKUP} | afio -ZG9 -o /dev/sda
> ~~~~~~
> I did a first backup and everything seemed fine.....
> After a restart the partition table of the zip drive was unreadable and the
> drive would not install on /dev/sda but on /dev/sdg (?)
You didn't mount it and direct your stuff to the mount point?
When you did an insmod ppa (or whatever) did it say "sda" or "sda4"?
(it seems to treat sda as the partition table)
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From: "Luc Van Bogaert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Luc Van Bogaert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Where to install apps on Linux system?
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 18:13:11 GMT
Hi,
I'm a newbie Linux user and I'm having some difficulty getting used to
the directory structure as it is being used by this os. More
specifically, I'm wondering what the recommended place would be to
install applications on my system.
If this is anything like OS/2, it actually doesn't make any difference
where you install an application, but I know I would never install an
app like StarOffice in one the OS/2 system directories.
Now, here's the problem : I haven't got a clue about what those
different Linux directories mean and how much they're related to the
Linux system itself.
Does it make sense to install StarOffice in the root directory? Does it
make sense to install it in my home directory? If I want the app to be
used by all users on my system, does that require some special
installation directory?
Any advice would be much appreciated.
Thanks.
Luc Van Bogaert
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: KDE and Gnome
Date: 24 Aug 2000 18:18:27 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 18:07:58 +0100, Juergen Neuhoff wrote:
>I have installed a Red Hat Linux 6.2 with the Gnome GUI.
>How can I also install the KDE and use both according
>to what I need at a given time?
(insert RedHat CD-ROM)
mount /mnt/cdrom
rpm -Uvh /mnt/cdrom/RedHat/RPMS/kde*.rpm
echo "KDE" > /etc/sysconfig/desktop
This will install KDE and make KDM the default XDM-like interface for
logging into X. KDM remembers your preference for desktop environments
and it's a bit easier to switch between GNOME and KDE when using KDM.
Naturally, you will ahve to restart X after doing all this to see the
changes!
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Those who do not understand Unix are
http://www.brainbench.com / condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
=============================/ ==Henry Spencer
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: HELP afio<->iomega zip problems?
Date: 24 Aug 2000 14:18:47 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> When you did an insmod ppa (or whatever) did it say "sda" or "sda4"?
(if you use a good zip disk and insmod ppa (or whatever) with an empty
/mnt/zip directory and a preformatted IBM type disk, try:
mount -t fvat /dev/sda /mnt/zip
It should fail (the wrong section of the disk).
I have a script file (when I insmod it gives sda4)
insmod ppa
mount -t vfat /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip
(and a remove drive script:
umount -t vfat /mnt/zip
rmmod ppa
I seldom use the zip drive, so don't want the driver in memory)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: IBM has released SashXB on Gnome.org
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 18:30:37 GMT
Sash can be thought of as technology that maps the native Application
Programming Interfaces (API's) provided by an operating system and it's
particular Graphical User Interfaces to ones that are abstracted and
straightforward enough to be useful to web page developers who use
HTML, JavaScript and XML. It uses the Mozilla Gecko HTML layout
engine, the Xerces XML parser and a number of Gnome components as its
primitives.
Page at Gnome.org
http://oss.software.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/sashxb/?
open&=201,t=gr,p=SashXB
Original Sash at alphaWorks
http://sash.alphaworks.ibm.com/?open&=colm,t=gr,p=Sash
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Before you buy.
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: marking 'bad' sectors?
Date: 24 Aug 2000 18:38:32 GMT
-ljl- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: In article <8o2s3t$flg$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> Quentin Christensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> : [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter T. Breuer) wrote in
: <8o0b86$pl5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
:> :>M. Buchenrieder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> :>: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: ...
:> Sure they can. Get this nonsense out of your head. Find your own
:> perceptual error!
:> Sure you can. How else are you managing to boot from one!
: ...
:> Stop fscking up, and stop confusing yourself. There is no problem and you
:> don't have to create any ... if you have a concrete problem to solve, post
:> it, with clear error messages and command lines, and you will get the
:> first step in the solution posted to you. When you have fixed that, move
:> on to the next.
:>
:> As to your partition being busy when you try and remount it readonly,
:> well, natch. Unbusy it.
: The poster ask for help, not hell : lighten up. We are all ignorant,
: just about different things. No one was born knowing much of any-
: thing.
You don't need to know anything. Just apply logic, which yes, you are
born with. See above. The advice is good. Fix your problem and don't go
away and create a new one. If you try and umount a partition and the
OS tells you it can't because it's busy, go away and find out what it
means, what is happening, and how to fix it. Don't invent another
problem before fixing it.
How do you think we know what's going on? I can assure you I've never
read a book on computing in my life, and I certainly have never posted
to newgroups wailing about the device being busy when I tried to umount
it. Presumably the first time it happened to me, I went about killing
every process in the process table until I found the one that was
keeping the mount point occupied (and by elimination, found it was me
:-). Later I might have even read through the man pages and found the
"fuser -m" command. But I didn't apply any knowledge, just logic.
So can you.
Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: If XWin hang, how to kill it
Date: 24 Aug 2000 18:43:46 GMT
Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: "Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
:> Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> : [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:> :> Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
:> :> You should use the Magic SysRq key to resync your hard disks, remount all
:> :> partitions read only and THEN and only then reboot.
: But WHERE IS THE LIST of SysRQ options and their effects?
Whenever I want to see the list, I hit ctrl-alt-sysreq-w. That seems to
list them. Cryptic, but you can make out what the cipher is by trying
them one by one (I'm still vagoue about the difference between tErm and
kIll or whatever. I think one kills all tasks and one kills the ones
attached to your tty. But because of that it's hard to distinguish :-).
Anyway, I only use S U S U B.
Peter
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From: "Ken Abrahamsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.shell
Subject: NEWBIE-Shell scripting - When to use script variable vs. create tmp file???
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 11:27:14 -0700
When doing shell scripting and needing to manipulate (sed, grep, etc) file
contents, what are generally accepted good shell programming practices
determining when to assign the contents of a file to a shell variable versus
creating a tmp file and using the tmp to do all the work in?
Avoiding tmp files means avoiding duplicate tmp file naming problems, and
the cleanup of these tmp files but what type of problems would be created by
using shell variables, especially if the contents of these shell variables
were loaded from a 'large' file. If there are size thresholds (i.e., it's a
bad idea to use a shell variable if the data is over xxxx kilobytes, but OK
if under this), what do people find these thresholds to be? Any other
pointers / recommendations would be appreciated.
I'm trying to do better scripting, but find no information on these type of
'style' guidelines.
Thanks for your comments!
ken
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: FYI: Applix vs. StarOffice vs. WP8 for Linux....
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 18:52:15 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Carl Fink wrote:
>>My observations exactly. SO is way too big and slow compared to either WP
>>or Applix.
>
>It's significantly faster than WP on my box. Faster to load, faster
>to use.
Really? Faster than WP8 or faster than the new and improved
Corel-WP-Office-Suite-Windows-Code-linked-with-Winelib thing?
I haven't tried the latter, but on my machines WP8 is way
faster than SO.
>That and it works with icewm.
>
>>And the way it thinks it needs to take over and show that damned
>>desktop is really annoying.
>
>Supposedly the next version will decompose it back into applications.
That would be nice.
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! I'm having
at a tax-deductible
visi.com experience! I need an
energy crunch!!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Bismuti)
Subject: good oracle tools for Linux?
Date: 24 Aug 2000 18:55:19 GMT
I'm using some of the orasoft tools but they don't let me open a table
and edit it as if it were a spreadsheet. I heard you can do this with
Toad for Windows. Is there any software that will allow you to do this
in Linux?
Thanks
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From: -ljl- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: marking 'bad' sectors?
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 19:01:57 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Quentin Christensen) wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter T. Breuer) wrote in
<8o0b86$pl5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> >M. Buchenrieder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
...
> I tried booting from a (pair of) disks I made when I installed linux
> (slackware 7.0) and they can't read the hard drive partition to get
> the e2fsck program,
The HD partition would have to be mounted; probably on '/mnt'. I am
assuming you were running in RAMdisk and the necessary libraries were
located thereon. You then could copy '/mnt/sbin/e2fsck' to '/sbin',
'umount /mnt' and run e2fsck.
If you run programs that are on the HD with it mounted on '/mnt';
you'll have to take this offset into account and give the full pathname.
As an alternative you could alter your path variable, $PATH.
BTW: All the rescue-systems I've seen have all the filesystem tool
available upon bootup.
--
Louis-ljl-{ Louis J. LaBash, Jr. }
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Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.programmer.help,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,microsoft.public.windowsnt.misc
Subject: Re: Operating system file name restrictions? Where?
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 19:15:00 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Michael Thibault) wrote:
|In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mark Day <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| wrote:
|
|>For the truly anal retentive
|
|That should be "anally retentive", of course. ;)
Or perhaps "true anal retentive"
or should it be "more true anal retentive"?
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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 14:25:36 -0500
From: paul simdars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: XWindow Managers
Andrew Purugganan wrote:
> paul simdars ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> [ > And, as long as I have you here . . .
>
> [ When I got my X back, I recalled the reason I had been fooling around in the
> [ menues in the first place. Namely, I must have hit a funny key sequence or
> [ something but the top bar (the title bar) on my window disappeared. Who
> [ cares about the title anyway. But, that bar also contains the close box,
> [ and the size box and most important of all -- that is where you go to move a
> [ window. So, I am not able to move any windows and if I start a program,
> [ its window is on the top and I cannot access any other program until I quit
> [ the program on top (no tasks show up in the task bar). It's a real pain.
> [ If you know about this one I'd love to hear it. I looked all over for where
> [ you set up the title bars, etc.
>
> to help u switch to different apps without the titlebar try alt-tab a
> couple of times, but that is not for ALLwindow managers. SOmetimes you
> ahve to go to configuration or control-center to find out what the
> window-switching keyboard shortcuts are. WHo knows, you might even
> stumble upon the way to bring those titlebars back! (You haven't told us
> whether yo uuse KDE/GNOME/fvwm). THe more WE know, the more likely
> somebody out there can help you.
>
> you can also take a look at .xdefaults in your home directory. Putz
> around in it ONLY if you know what you're doing
>
> --
> jazz
> Registered linux user no. 164098 +--+--+--+ Litestep user no. 386
> Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
> --- OUT THERE??
GNOME with Enlightenment. The .Xdefaults files don't seem to mean much to me. I
did rename the one in my user account and copied the one from my root account
into my user directory and nothing different.
I did try to look in control-center and nothing seems to apply. I come to the
end of my rope so often in Linux.
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From: "Kart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: SYSLOGD Hangs
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 21:26:47 +0200
"Paul Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Kart wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have a problem with the syslogd daemon.
> > First let me expose :
> >
> > I'm settings up a bootable CD-ROM for my firewall (will be a diskless
> > firewall with the full filesystem on CD). I'm working with a redhat 6.2.
I
> > installed the base system and removed some packages to free up some
space. I
> > did this by using the rpm command and never enforced to break
dependencies.
> > I added some features (iproute2 packages, some perl modules, etc.) and
here
> > it is, my system is ready for the CD recorder.
> >
> > But when I boot, the syslog daemon hangs. I tried to launch it "by hand"
> > after boot :
> > # syslogd -d
> >
> > This hangs too. No output, nothing !
> > If I log into another console and launch :
> > # ifconfig eth0 down
> > Then a few seconds later, syslogd starts OK. When having back up eth0,
some
> > entries seems not to be logged (but I'm not sure).
> <snip>
>
> Run syslogd through strace (strace syslogd -d) and see what it is trying
> to do when it hangs.
OK. I found a problem but still have another one ... The first one was easy
and I should have thinked of it before. Just that syslogd was trying to get
the hostname through the DNS. Not easy without valid network connection and
dns ptr...
There is still one point and I can't figure out what's happening. Syslogd
launches well at boot. When I have a look at the strace report, there is no
problem. It runs, forks, and create /dev/log as a socket. Other softwares
should send messages to /dev/log for syslogd to get them.
But when another program ("logger" for example) tries to connect to the
socket, it gets an error.
If I kill syslogd and relaunch it, it's back ok.
This time, it is really beyond my knowledge ... I don't understand why
launching syslogd (without any error) at boot time (rc scripts) is different
from restarting it later ...
If someone would like a copy of strace reports I could send them by e-mail,
just ask.
Thanks in advance to anyone who could give me any (good) idea !!
>
> Paul
Sylvain.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: XFree86 vs Windows
Date: 24 Aug 2000 19:32:42 GMT
On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 09:10:26 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>hi,
> I have a doubt about X development.
>Even though Linux has cool Window Managers , the level of gui
>programming in Linux is severely limited as compared to windows
How so ? What toolkits have you evaluated ?
> What is Linux lacking in terms of the X console???
I'm not sure I understand the question. But I'll issue a partial answer
by saying that XFree86 4.0 makes substantial headway regarding performance
issues.
--
Donovan
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From: Ben Kim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: psrinfo equivalent in linux
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 12:06:59 -0700
Does anyone know what the psrinfo equivalent is for linux? I need some
CPU information for the machine.
thanks,
Ben Kim
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From: Kyle Parfrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Which kernel for Athlon?
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 19:37:13 GMT
I'm on caldera 2.4 on my athlon: seems fine. I have problems, but I don't
think they are because of the processor.
Kyle
Christopher Browne wrote:
> Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> would say:
> >I assume that I would just use the standard kernel for my new athlon,
> >but it says that it's pentium optimized. Which one should be
> >installed? Thanks for your input.
>
> That should work; the Athlon pretends to be a Pentium.
> --
> (concatenate 'string "cbbrowne" "@" "acm.org")
> <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/linux.html>
> "Another result of the tyranny of Pascal is that beginners don't use
> function pointers." --Rob Pike
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: NFS umount problem
Date: 24 Aug 2000 19:38:23 GMT
D. C. & M. V. Sessions <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> On my RH6.1 boxes I unmounted my NFS'd CDROM from the import
>> machine OK, but trying to unmount on the exporting machine I get the
>> "device busy" error. umount -f doesn't work, same message. I tried also
>> to use linuxconf to unmount, the linuxconf response says "umount
>> successful" despite the command line error message "device busy". I'd
>> like to find a way to determine what could be keeping the CD filesystem
>> busy, as I can't open the CD drive to remove the CD. I'd like to be able
>> to solve this without having to kill the NFS process. Is there a way to
>> track down what's actually keeping the device busy [ps -ax only shows there
>> are NFS processes active]?
> fuser -m /dev/cdrom
Thanks, dcs, for the 'fuser' info; hadn't heard of that command
before (my previous experience is FreeBSD which doesn't have an 'fuser'
command).
The '-m' option returned no response, used -v and got:
User PID Access Command
/mnt/cdrom root kernel mount /mnt/cdrom
I still can't unmount the device (tried 'fuser -k); still get
"device busy" message no matter what. I don't know what else to try, so
maybe next I'll try to kill the nfs processes that are still running
(according to ps -ax), maybe that'll do it. I just wish unix type systems
didn't lock cdrom devices when mounted.
John Meshkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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http://www.sivakalpa.org/johnpipe/
"I do not know that I know the self fully,
neither do I know that I know him not"
...from the Upanishads
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From: Kyle Parfrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Distro change: To debian or SuSE ??
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 19:40:15 GMT
Greetings all:
First of all I don't want to know what the "best" distribution is, so don't start on
that :)!
I am currently using Caldera 2.4, but am considering changing distro
due to some problems. I am by no means an experienced linux user, having
only about 3 weeks use time but am thinking of trying debian , partly because
I hear it has a program that eradicates the annoying dependancy problems
with rpms.
Some questions:
Is debian as hard as they say?
Does the apt-get program work?
Can debian use rpm and is it easy to get .deb packages?
General: is it good?
A review in kclinux.com talks of a "commercial version" including 3 cd's
and a book. Where can this be got, a vendor in europe is needed as I
live in Ireland. I would be looking for Debian 2.2
Other than that I see that SuSE are about to launch a new version.
Thinking of that also.
I want to use my computer for internet stuff, java development, all the
normal things.
Expecting a wave of replies..
Kyle
public void thanks {
word.thanks();
}
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: commands hanging in RH6.1
Date: 24 Aug 2000 19:43:47 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] did eloquently scribble:
>> When I type "tar -x [filename]", the command hangs and doesn't perform
>> it's function. CTRL-C brings back the prompt.
> How do you know it's failing to perform its task?
> /me looks at the command again...
> Ahhh, not a red hat fault, it's a someone not reading the manual fault.
> tar xf [filename]
> is what you want.
> tar xvf [filename] if you want it to TELL you that it's doing.
Thanks Spike, and all who responded. I'm still trying to track down
why I get the waiting behavior on one box with route (or netstat -r) and not
the other, but at least now I have a clue to where to begin searching.
John Meshkoff
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"I do not know that I know the self fully,
neither do I know that I know him not"
...from the Upanishads
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From: -ljl- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Where to install apps on Linux system?
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 19:36:34 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Luc Van Bogaert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm a newbie Linux user and I'm having some difficulty getting used to
> the directory structure as it is being used by this os. More
> specifically, I'm wondering what the recommended place would be to
> install applications on my system.
On my system they are in '/opt' a symbolic-link to '/usr/local/opt'.
I tend to put packages that were not included in the distribution in
'/usr/local/' somewhere. There is a file-system standard, try:
http://www.linuxdoc.org/
lot of useful stuff here.
On my system:
ls '/opt'
emd
enlighten
vmware-tools
> Now, here's the problem : I haven't got a clue about what those
> different Linux directories mean and how much they're related to the
> Linux system itself.
They are pretty much standard and can be found in Unix books.
The aforemention site has "The Linux System Administrators' Guide"
and a lot more documentation on line.
> Does it make sense to install StarOffice in the root directory?
I don't think you'll want to do that. The root partition should
only have the files essential for the system to boot. Some people
make only one partition for Linux and load everything on it; but
if (when) they have a crash they may lose everything.
> Does it make sense to install it in my home directory?
I think '/opt' is where you'll want it.
If you are installing Red Hat, SuSE, ... they are predetermined.
The application will be installed and all users can run them. The
system commands are reserved for root.
--
Louis-ljl-{ Louis J. LaBash, Jr. }
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Before you buy.
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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 21:50:27 +0200
From: Josef Zellner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: shutdown command for a single user
Hi all!
How can I give a single user the rights to use the shutdown command?
Thx
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From: "Chris Zimmermann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.ms-windows.nt,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.programmer.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.kernel-mode,alt.linux,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.laptops
Subject: APM BIOS access on TP 600x
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 21:03:30 +0100
I'm looking for a way to access the APM BIOS of a Thinkpad 600x from
NT 4.0 WS. I know that NT doesn't support any power saving modes; on
the other side, the 600x seems to support this as apm.c in the Linux
2.x kernels suggests.
SMAPI as defined by IBM for their Thinkpads and used by Linux tools
such as tpctl doesn't seem to be the answer as it only seems to
support _control_ over the various settings the hardware / BIOS
supports and no functionality to, for example, obtain the remaining
recharging time for the battery (which the fuel gauge from the IBM
tools running on NT _can_ obtain!). As an aside: function 22h (get
power settings) does not seem be supported on my 600x as the SMAPI
invocation returns 53h: function not supported.
I had a quick look around in segment 40h for a jump point into the APM
BIOS under NT (that's what I'm getting from apm.c and apm_bios.h in
the Linux kernel but maybe I'm interpreting this wrong). But no luck
here. Any suggestions how to get the access (real mode or virtual x86)
and jump point for that BIOS extension under NT? Any hints gladly
appreciated!
Answers please in this newsgroup or via email; I'll post a summary
if there are enough replies.
Chris
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