Linux-Misc Digest #633, Volume #25 Thu, 31 Aug 00 13:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: How to recover damaged tar file (-ljl-)
Re: preventing those crashes: is the kernel the culprit? (Jonathan)
Tcpdump, monitoring! ("Kaj")
Re: Netscape is the best web brower for Linux? Where is the alternative? (Grant
Edwards)
Re: Newbie, Help, CLI Commands, ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Immediate*** ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Pro*C ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Tcpdump, monitoring! ("Sjoerd Langkemper")
Copying a program from one computer to another ("Sjoerd Langkemper")
Re: SAMBA problem .. (Dustin Puryear)
Re: what's up with Sun? (dpace)
How to get directory size and free disk space under RH with Gnome? (Akbar ERKINIVICH
Avliyaev)
Re: Set permissions to directory? (Wayne Pollock)
Re: what's up with Sun? ("Ingemar Lundin")
Re: TCP/IP networking and PPPD???? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Tcpdump, monitoring! (-ljl-)
Re: problem with Tyan 1682 (Jonathan)
Re: Linux spontaneously changes time (Christopher Wong)
Re: Newbie, Help, CLI Commands, ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
Re: SAMBA problem .. (Simon)
Re: SAMBA problem .. (Simon)
sunrpc on port 111 (Dave Barcelo)
Re: Netscape Sucks, I need another option. (Christopher Wong)
Re: Tcpdump, monitoring! (Prasanth A. Kumar)
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From: -ljl- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to recover damaged tar file
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 14:52:54 GMT
In article <8olom7$fbd$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
-ljl- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <8oji0m$52k$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Y. Tremblay) wrote:
...
> > However, most of the data is still there. I just can't access it
> > normally.
...
> Check out this URL:
> http://ume.med.ucalgary.ca/usenet/Sun/0368.html
> year ago I saw some tools to fix tar files but couldn't remember
where.
> This article mentions two, maybe it's them :-)
>
> I would try to make a copy to work on rather than using the original.
> That way you will never be worse off than before experimenting.
BTW: The programs targ and tarl can be found in "tar_aids.Z".
Use: (search for tar_aids)
http://ftpsearch.lycos.com
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From: Jonathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: preventing those crashes: is the kernel the culprit?
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 14:58:50 GMT
In article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Neil Zanella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> After upgrading from Red Hat 5.2 to Red Hat 6.2 I was experiencing
lots
> of system crashes and wondering why that was. At first I thought it
might
> be overfull partitions as my /tmp was quite full so I made sure
everything
> was no more than 80% full but that did not help. My system kept on
> crashing unexpectedly from time to time. Then I suspected it was my
text
> editor vim since I use it so often and the system used to crash a lot
> while editing files. But the system crashed when I was not using it as
> well. So then I suspected that it might be the gnome or enlightenment
> or some other X Window thing. That was not the case as Linux froze on
> me once again, this time in console mode. Arrghh, what could it be?
> Well, my conclusion was that the newer kernels are prone to crashing.
> I _DOWN_graded to linux-2.2.13 and my systems seems to be working fine
> once again. Fortunately I do not need any of those newer feature. IMHO
> all of kernels 2.2.14 and up have problems. I had kernels with all of
> the bug workarounds enabled and things were freezing. Kernel 2.2.13
with
> the same kernel configuration works as smoothly as always. So, the
bottom
> line is: if your system freezes from time to time and you are not
> doing any kernel testing or kernel drivers development then just
downgrade
> to kernel 2.2.13. This is only a suggestion and of course I may
> be wrong but that worked for me. Hopefully the 2.4.0 kernel will have
this
> freezing problem fixed with some luck (the test6 version also had this
> problem).
>
> Bye,
>
> Neil
>
>
I have used 2.2.16 and 2.4test7 with no problems (other than the install
gotchas).
Before suspecting the kernel I would ensure that all system requirements
in /Documentation/Changes have been met.
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From: "Kaj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Tcpdump, monitoring!
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 15:12:36 GMT
I use Tcpdump today but do not realy know howto use it.
Could anyone tell me how i should do to monitor a pc's intenet traffic?
Maybe give me a example script or someting.
I'm using a gateway.
Thanx
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: Netscape is the best web brower for Linux? Where is the alternative?
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 15:19:08 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Christopher Browne wrote:
>Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when Davide Bianchi would say:
>>On Thu, 31 Aug 2000 07:34:31 GMT, Hans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>The Desktop Linux in the company has Netscape.
>>>Netscape is unstable honestly. Netscape often stop or terminated during
>>>the normal operation without a warning message.
>>>Well, better than M$ Windows 95. Cause I can restart only netscape.
>>>I need an web browser is more stable than Netscape. :-)
>>
>>Try Opera
>>http://www.opera.com/download/index.html
>
>Yes, but try it quickly. It tends to crash if you try to have it
>run for more than a minute or two...
And I couldn't get it to display pages served by "localhost" at all. (All
the other browsers did so fine.)
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! RHAPSODY in Glue!
at
visi.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Newbie, Help, CLI Commands,
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 00:34:51 +0100
Andreas Kahari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Andrew N. McGuire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, Eric Potter quoth:
> [cut]
>>~~ rm -rf directory
>>
>>Why the '-f'? The man page for rm states:
>>
> [cut]
> Because most sane people have 'rm' aliased to 'rm -i'
SANE???? I don't. I find that a MAJOR irritation...
I know Red Hat do it as default, but SuSE doesn't, and for that I am
eternally greatful.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Immediate***
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 00:42:05 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] did eloquently scribble:
> I made an entry into /etc/rc.d/rc.local which makes the sytem hang in
> between bootup. I want to delete the entry, but I cannot since I
> cannot get into the system. I need immeediate help. This is a DHCP
> server and DNS server. I went into "linux rescue" mode but I cannot
> access the file there.
Why not?
Just mount the partition.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pro*C
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 09:50:10 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] did eloquently scribble:
> cpp is the C++ compiler
nope. cpp is the C PreProcessor, not the C++ compiler.
That's g++.
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From: "Sjoerd Langkemper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Tcpdump, monitoring!
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 15:53:28 GMT
"Kaj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I use Tcpdump today but do not realy know howto use it.
> Could anyone tell me how i should do to monitor a pc's intenet traffic?
> Maybe give me a example script or someting.
> I'm using a gateway.
START OF EXAMPLE SCRIPT
/usr/sbin/tcpdump
END OF EXAMPLE SCRIPT
That wasn't too hard, was it. Tcpdump is a program that monitors network
trafic (which includes internet traffic) and displays information about the
packages (==trafic) which travel thrue the computer. The man page should
give you more help on this item, or type tcpdump --help.
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From: "Sjoerd Langkemper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Copying a program from one computer to another
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 15:59:18 GMT
The situation is as follows: I have two computers (I have more, but they are
not important right now). The first computer is a server and has a harddisk
of 250 MB. That's not very much for Linux, so I didn't install any compile
and development tools. Because it's a server, I have installed Apache, but
now I need some extra security and I thought of mod_ssl.
On another computer, I have compiled Apache with mod_ssl. Now I would like
to get Apache (with mod_ssl) on the server computer. Do I have to copy only
the httpd executable? Or also other files.
Your help would be much appriciated.
Sjoerd
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dustin Puryear)
Subject: Re: SAMBA problem ..
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 16:11:25 GMT
On Tue, 29 Aug 2000 22:24:25 +0100, Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>OpenLinux 2.4 Desktop....
>
>Having setup Samba I can connect to the 'public' and 'tmp' shares -
>read/write ok.
Are you using user or share security?
>Can't connect to users home directory, I can see it !!!
Are you using the special [homes] share?
>Each user has a Public folder created with ownership assigned to the
>use.....
>
>'Incorrect password or unknown user name for username:'
>
>Workstation is NT 4, encrypted password set to yes...
>Username and password for samba are set.
Is Samba set for encrypted passwords as well?
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Author of "Integrate Linux Solutions into Your Windows Network"
The Baton Rouge Linux User Group - http://www.brlug.net
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From: dpace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: what's up with Sun?
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 15:20:32 +0000
Ingemar Lundin wrote:
>
> Well as Windows has as "kill em all and let god sort them out" company
> behind it, so does *nix systems need one.
>
> In line with open-source community philosofy? hm well..Sun doesnt seem to
> care too much about it, almost acting as if they are a little yeoulos on all
> the attentation Linux has gained for the past couple of years, make no doubt
> about it, their aim is as commercial as MS, ie make the world evolve around
> ther own perfectly good Unix system (Solaris 8)
>
> /IL
What is a yeoulos?
Oh, sorry I just figured it out; "jealous".
--
David Pace - Free commodity/stock graphing software
and Linux links at http://www.daveware.com
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From: Akbar ERKINIVICH Avliyaev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to get directory size and free disk space under RH with Gnome?
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 11:28:33 -0500
Title says all
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From: Wayne Pollock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Set permissions to directory?
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 12:22:02 -0400
Not yet in Linux, the closest you can get is to set the SGID bit on
directories, and newly creating files in that directory will inherit
the group. (But not the permissions.)
Some Unixes (HPUX, AIX) have added 'ACL' support, so you can specify
individual user or group permissions on a directory, and these
will inherit. ACLs are fairly new in Unix, and I've only heard rumors
that they would be supported someday in Linux.
I suppose you can create a shell script with find and chmod that will
set the permissions they way you want, then run the script from
crontab. I don't recommend this, you should try to adopt to the
security model of Linux rather than try to force it to work the
way Netware does.
-Wayne Pollock
MH wrote:
>
> Is there a way to have the permissions to any file created in a given
> directory adopt the group permissions assigned to the directory itself
> rather than the primary group of the individual creating the file (when
> individuals belong to multiple groups)?
>
> Sometimes, group permissions are assigned on the basis of an
> individual's primary group, rather than the group specifically
> associated with the directory.
>
> I'm running RH 6.0
>
> --
> Don't waste your vote. Vote Green or don't vote at all.
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From: "Ingemar Lundin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: what's up with Sun?
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 16:35:44 GMT
idiot!
> David Pace - Free commodity/stock graphing software
> and Linux links at http://www.daveware.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TCP/IP networking and PPPD????
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 16:29:41 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Rob Blomquist wrote:
>
> > I am building a TCP/IP network at my house and I am having a
problem.
> >
> > It appears that my IP addressing for my local network
> > (192.168.1.1/255.255.255.0) is running afoul of my ISP's dynamic IP
> > addressing. Is there a good work around? I would like to use both
the LAN
> > and the PPP connection simultaneously.
> >
> > Rob
> > --
> > Rob Blomquist
> > Kirkland, WA
>
> Why do you think so? I cannot imagine your ISP is assigning addresses
in the
> 192.168.0.0 area.
>
> You can definately use both LAN and PPP simultaneously. I am doing it
this
> very instant. My LAN is on 192.168.0.0 and my PPP is on 208.225.0.0.
No
> interactions at all.
Well, I would expect so, but I am trying to figure out why PPPD would
bomb out after the connection is made. All I have done is tried to set
up a home LAN since I last logged in.
Rob
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From: -ljl- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Tcpdump, monitoring!
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 16:36:18 GMT
In article <EBur5.4941$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Kaj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I use Tcpdump today but do not realy know howto use it.
> Could anyone tell me how i should do to monitor a pc's
> intenet traffic?
> Maybe give me a example script or someting.
You might want to try Brecht Claerhout's Sniffit which can
be run in an interactive mode: "sniffit -i".
See:
http://reptile.rug.ac.be/~coder/sniffit/sniffit.html
BTW: It compiles out of the box.
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From: Jonathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: problem with Tyan 1682
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 16:52:15 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Someone Else <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Jean-David Beyer-valinux schrieb:
>
> >
> > Do you shut down your system correctly? I got stuff like that the
only time
> > my windowing system locked up so bad I could not get out of it. I
pressed
> > the panic button and it made resentful remarks like that when doing
the
> > fschecks. But if you are shutting down correctly, and not pressing
the
> > reset button, then perhaps you are having trouble with your hard
drive(s),
> > or the controller, or something.
> >
> > Since you get the same problem with Windows, I suspect your hardware
is in
> > trouble. I did not know the S1832DL would run with EDO-RAM. Tyan
say, in
> > part,
> >
> >
>
> thx for ur reply,
>
> I wrote, if I just take all my hardware (without motherboard !) to
TYAN 1562
> (for dual P-I 200, works on one 200MMX ) board, it works FINE !!!
>
> for hardrive reason I bought a seconhand scsi drive specially ! but
problem
> still there!
> As Linux hags, it becomes unuseable, it reacts nothing !! for that
reason I
> must always hard-reboot. I heard too, some probelem from rams, I got
just for
> this reason two 32 MB "EDO" rams! ( the board shows at boot time,
whether the
> module is EDO, FP or none )
>
> waiting for ur reply
>
>
As Jean-David said:
>> I suspect your hardware is in trouble.
I had a problem with random lockups on one machine and I swithced
*every* card, the RAM and the processor before finally changing out the
mobo, which is what fixed it.
>I just take all my hardware (without motherboard !) to TYAN 1562
> (for dual P-I 200, works on one 200MMX ) board, it works FINE
Sounds like the mobo to me ...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Wong)
Subject: Re: Linux spontaneously changes time
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 16:58:24 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, M. Buchenrieder wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Wong) writes:
>>Obviously, this is supposed to be a viable option, but it
>>is not working right.
>
>[...]
>
>IIRC, it's possible that some programs do not use the information
>in /etc/localtime but instead do query the BIOS clock via the "date"
>command - which is why I do prefer using GMT/UTC on the BIOS clock
>(not to mention the fact that this allows for automatic DST
>correction, in case the zoneinfo file provides the needed information).
It is one thing for a program or two to be confused about time zones,
but quite another for the OS system time to get reset by that
program. Unless that confused program is running as root, it should
not be causing the problem I am describing. And if a such program is
running with root privileges and occasionally goes amok in my system,
I would have reason to be concerned.
Chris
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From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie, Help, CLI Commands,
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 11:59:14 -0500
On 31 Aug 2000, Andreas Kahari quoth:
~~ Date: 31 Aug 2000 09:10:00 +0100
~~ From: Andreas Kahari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
~~ Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc
~~ Subject: Re: Newbie, Help, CLI Commands,
~~
~~ In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
~~ Andrew N. McGuire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
~~ >On 30 Aug 2000, Andreas Kahari quoth:
[ snip ]
~~ Point taken. See the note in my very first reply to the OP.
I will have to check it out on Deja, my news feed has already expired
it. My news feed really is kind of poor, they don't keep near enough
articles. :-(
anm
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From: Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SAMBA problem ..
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 17:57:28 +0100
I'm using USER level security.
Yes Im using the special [home] share.
Yes Encrypted password is on.
If I change the line from
only user = yes
to only user = no
it works !!
Dustin Puryear wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Aug 2000 22:24:25 +0100, Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >OpenLinux 2.4 Desktop....
> >
> >Having setup Samba I can connect to the 'public' and 'tmp' shares -
> >read/write ok.
>
> Are you using user or share security?
>
> >Can't connect to users home directory, I can see it !!!
>
> Are you using the special [homes] share?
>
> >Each user has a Public folder created with ownership assigned to the
> >use.....
> >
> >'Incorrect password or unknown user name for username:'
> >
> >Workstation is NT 4, encrypted password set to yes...
> >Username and password for samba are set.
>
> Is Samba set for encrypted passwords as well?
>
> ---
> Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Author of "Integrate Linux Solutions into Your Windows Network"
> The Baton Rouge Linux User Group - http://www.brlug.net
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From: Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SAMBA problem ..
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 17:59:09 +0100
I'm using USER level security.
Yes Im using the special [home] share.
Yes Encrypted password is on.
If I change the line from
only user = yes
to only user = no
it works !!
Dustin Puryear wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Aug 2000 22:24:25 +0100, Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >OpenLinux 2.4 Desktop....
> >
> >Having setup Samba I can connect to the 'public' and 'tmp' shares -
> >read/write ok.
>
> Are you using user or share security?
>
> >Can't connect to users home directory, I can see it !!!
>
> Are you using the special [homes] share?
>
> >Each user has a Public folder created with ownership assigned to the
> >use.....
> >
> >'Incorrect password or unknown user name for username:'
> >
> >Workstation is NT 4, encrypted password set to yes...
> >Username and password for samba are set.
>
> Is Samba set for encrypted passwords as well?
>
> ---
> Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Author of "Integrate Linux Solutions into Your Windows Network"
> The Baton Rouge Linux User Group - http://www.brlug.net
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From: Dave Barcelo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: sunrpc on port 111
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 12:06:18 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What is the purpose of this daemon on port 111. What is it's purpose?
Dave
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Wong)
Subject: Re: Netscape Sucks, I need another option.
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 17:03:11 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dan wrote:
>Christopher Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> When Mozilla advocates say Mozilla is fast, they generally mean the
>> rendering speed. The UI, of course, is slow as a banana slug. Yechh.
>
>This just tells me you have never seen an angry banana slug charging
>at you in excess of 100mph. ;)
There is no such thing as a banana slug.
(My post was designed not to offend the innocent.)
:-)
Chris
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Subject: Re: Tcpdump, monitoring!
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Prasanth A. Kumar)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 17:09:03 GMT
"Kaj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I use Tcpdump today but do not realy know howto use it.
> Could anyone tell me how i should do to monitor a pc's intenet traffic?
> Maybe give me a example script or someting.
> I'm using a gateway.
>
> Thanx
There are lots of more user friendly GUI programs if that suits you
better. This includes stuff like 'Ether Ape', 'Ethereal' and
'iptraf'. My favorite is 'Ethereal'.
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