Linux-Misc Digest #646, Volume #25 Sat, 2 Sep 00 09:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: what's up with Sun? ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
Re: what's up with Sun? (T. Max Devlin)
Re: How to exclude dirs from tar-backup? (Cameron Hutchison)
Re: for in list in bash ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
Re: access database on Linux (Andreas Hinz)
Re: network connection speed command (Job Eisses)
Re: Finding your clock speed ("Peter T. Breuer")
Helix Gnome panels ("gnologic")
Re: CAUTION: I am under attack from an incompetent hacker probably in germany
("gnologic")
Simple env problem ("Buck Turgidson")
Re: Linux Mail Server (Nick Kew)
Re: Filtering spam with procmail (Ross Slade)
Module dependency problem ("Dela Lovecraft")
locate - permission denied ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Help! Urgent problem with gzip (Martha H Adams)
Re: Simple env problem ("Andrew E. Schulman")
Re: Simple env problem ("Buck Turgidson")
Re: locate - permission denied ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: pppd CHAP and BTConnect ("Syberlase")
Re: Simple env problem ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Finding your clock speed (Jean-David Beyer-valinux)
Re: network connection speed command (Jean-David Beyer-valinux)
Re: Finding your clock speed ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: looking for FAT32 gurus.... (muzh)
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: what's up with Sun?
Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 00:08:17 -0500
On Fri, 1 Sep 2000, Rasputin quoth:
~~ Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 09:40:39 GMT
~~ From: Rasputin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
~~ Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
~~ Newsgroups: alt.os.linux, comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.os.linux.misc
~~ Subject: Re: what's up with Sun?
~~
~~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] <Ingemar Lundin> wrote:
~~ >Well as Windows has as "kill em all and let god sort them out" company
~~ >behind it, so does *nix systems need one.
~~ >
~~ >In line with open-source community philosofy? hm well..Sun doesnt seem to
~~ >care too much about it, almost acting as if they are a little yeoulos on all
~~ >the attentation Linux has gained for the past couple of years, make no doubt
~~ >about it, their aim is as commercial as MS, ie make the world evolve around
~~ >ther own perfectly good Unix system (Solaris 8)
~~
~~ Sure. They're a business.
~~
~~ One important difference between Sun and M$ is that Sun make hardware.
~~ They have less to lose in a world where software if Free.
That and realistically, Linux does not yet match Solaris when it
comes to enterprise solutions. Sun has no reason to be jealous, Linux
is not in the same ballpark, yet (it will be). I am bound to piss some
people here off by saying this, and don't get me wrong, I LOVE Linux.
However, for large scale computing, and high availabitly storage
servers, Linux does not come close (yet). The marriage between Sun's
hardware and software is very tight, and it works very well. Linux
is getting there, and companies realize this. There seems to be a
rush to support Linux these days, and for good reason. The funny thing
is that many vendors may be their own undoing!
PS. I am a Sun Enterprise admin who runs Debian on his SPARC, go
figure. :-)
Regards,
anm
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Andrew N. McGuire
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: what's up with Sun?
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 01:12:14 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Said Rasputin in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] <Ingemar Lundin> wrote:
>>Well as Windows has as "kill em all and let god sort them out" company
>>behind it, so does *nix systems need one.
>>
>>In line with open-source community philosofy? hm well..Sun doesnt seem to
>>care too much about it, almost acting as if they are a little yeoulos on all
>>the attentation Linux has gained for the past couple of years, make no doubt
>>about it, their aim is as commercial as MS, ie make the world evolve around
>>ther own perfectly good Unix system (Solaris 8)
>
>Sure. They're a business.
>
>One important difference between Sun and M$ is that Sun make hardware.
>They have less to lose in a world where software if Free.
'smatter of fact; they've got not nothing to lose at all, do they?
Except problems selling more hardware. Some of those would probably go
away...
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T. Max Devlin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cameron Hutchison)
Subject: Re: How to exclude dirs from tar-backup?
Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 06:04:02 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 1 Sep 2000 09:53:17 +0100, Diana Block <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi all,
>i try to realize a backup-script, that mounts the hdds our win-clients via
>samba on the linux-backupserver and backup them.
>the problem is that eg i try to backup only the files on C:\ mounted to
>/mnt/nt/C without all subdirs:
>tar cvfz /tmp/test.tgz --exclude=/mnt/nt/C/Eigene\
>Dateien/ --exclude=/mnt/nt/C/WINDOWS/ --exclude=/mnt/nt/C/Programme/ *
>it doesn�t work.
>can everybody tell me what i�m doing wrong?
The problem is that you are providing absolute paths to the --exclude
options, but tar is processing relative paths.
Try this...
$ tar cvfz /tmp/test.tgz --directory-/mnt/nt/C --exclude=Eigene\ Dateien \
--exclude=WINDOWS --exclude=Programme .
note: I'm assuming that "Eigene Dateien" has a space in it - its not
entirely clear from your posting.
I've also changed the final "*" to a "." Be careful when using wildcards
as they will usually miss dot-files (.*) and may cause unexpected behaviour
(ie. if you have a file starting with a hyphen (-), you can stuff up the
option processing of tar).
The above command will create a tar file, properly adhering to your
--exclude directives. The tar file contents will not have the "/mnt/nt/C"
prefix on the filenames, so you could untar it anywhere else you like.
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.shell
From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: for in list in bash
Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 01:38:09 -0500
On Fri, 1 Sep 2000, Erik Max Francis quoth:
~~ Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 20:45:39 -0700
~~ From: Erik Max Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
~~ Newsgroups: comp.unix.shell, comp.os.linux.misc
~~ Subject: Re: for in list in bash
~~
~~ "Andrew N. McGuire" wrote:
~~
~~ > Actually the question is academic as it is EXTREMELY unecessary to
~~ > use a for loop and glob to list files, ls was built for that.
~~ >
~~ > ls -C1 [corrected to -1 in a later post] # Cause thats what it's for!
~~
~~ But the original poster didn't want a simple listing, he wanted to
~~ iterate through the files contained in a glob.
Hence, "the question is academic"! What I am saying is that if
the poster JUST wanted to know how 'for; do; done' works, fine.
If he wanted to use it to ACTUALLY loop through a glob merely to
echo filenames, he is picking the wrong tool for the job.
ls -1
anm
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Andrew N. McGuire
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Hinz)
Subject: Re: access database on Linux
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 07:04:41 GMT
On 31 Aug 2000 17:45:23 -0400, Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>be able to read directly from Linux. Currently I'm able to get Access
>(4.3) running well enough under wine to handle the data, but it croaks
>when I try to export it.
>
Hi,
I have the same problem if I try to export a table manually (Access 2.0).
But if you put the export command(s) in a macro and run it, it will work.
--
Med venlig hilsen / Best regards / Mit freundlichen Gr�ssen
Andreas Hinz
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From: Job Eisses <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: network connection speed command
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 11:20:00 +0200
Ping may reluctantly allow you to calculate the speed, if you are lucky,
but not whether you are connected full- or half-duplex. It would help
with debugging problems to know this. The information could only come
from the card driver, i haven't seen one that did it yet, but the source
says it will if the debug flag is on -job
Chris wrote:
>
> Er, ping perhaps?
>
> Chris
>
> Joseph Cooley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Hello,
> >
> > I was wondering if anyone knows of a good command to find the speed at
> > which a linux box is connected to the network. (i.e. 10 Mb/s or 100
> > Mb/s, etc.)
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Joe
> >
> > --
> > ____________________________________
> > Joe Cooley
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > ____________________________________
> >
> >
> >
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Finding your clock speed
Date: 2 Sep 2000 09:25:17 GMT
Naren Devaiah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Bogomips isn't a true reflection of actual CPU speed.
Uh, yes it is. What it isn't is actual processor speed. But it is a
true reflection of it. For a pentium classic, for example, it is 0.4
times the cpu clock on a correctly working cpu.
Check the bogomips howto or man page.
Peter
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From: "gnologic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Helix Gnome panels
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 09:45:00 GMT
I`m using HelixGnome on Mandrake 7.1. Everything is great now except one
thing: When I log in as a user (doesn`t happen as root) the top and bottom
applet panels are inverted in position, and stuck in center of the screen.
I have to use the Properties of each panel to adjust them back each time.
I always choose "save session" when I log out. I know this isn`t a general
Linux question but if someone has had this and fixed it I`d appreciate
knowing how.
(no "fix it by using KDE" replies, please. Already tried v1 and v2,
disliked both very much.)
TIA
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From: "gnologic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CAUTION: I am under attack from an incompetent hacker probably in germany
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 10:01:57 GMT
> Outlook express is crap at newsreading. You want free-agent
Funny, I always said the same thing about Free Agent when I had Windoze.
Give Xnews (also free) a try, much better at multipart binaries ... my
opinion of course.
> If only Pan were more stable, although I don't have the latest version
> (OK, so flame me!)
I certainly won`t flame you, but I will say I have Pan v0.8.0 and just
downloaded 756 binaries with 4 connections and not a single drop of sweat
from it :) I`d say that`s stable enough for most folks.
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From: "Buck Turgidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Simple env problem
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 10:04:47 GMT
Can someon explain why my cd command doesn't take me to $ORACLE_HOME?
[lacalena] /home/oracle $env | grep ORACLE
ORACLE_SID=ORCL
ORACLE_BASE=/u01/app/oracle
ORACLE_TERM=vt100
ORACLE_HOME=/u01/app/oracle/product/8.1.5
[lacalena] /home/oracle $cd $ORACLE_HOME
[lacalena] /home/oracle $
logged on as root, oracle seems to have the appropriate permissions:
[root@lacalena product]# pwd
/u01/app/oracle/product
[root@lacalena product]# ls -l
total 4
drwxr-x--x 24 oracle dba 4096 Mar 22 11:56 8.1.5
[root@lacalena product]#
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nick Kew)
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux Mail Server
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 01:04:00 GMT
In article <8oo904$nr6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Stratford) writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Raymond Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> I am completly ammused by people pointing to sever SMTP MTA's without
>> seeing the big picture (except for the last person).
Agreed.
>> 500000 user accounts is almost impossible (specially on linux it stops ad
>> user account 65535).
Only an issue if you insist on mail users also being system users.
>> Imagine the amount of diskspace you need and teh ammount of INodes.
That would call for an optimised filesystem. I'm not going to attempt
the arithmetic regarding inodes...
>> I think you are way out of your league with Linux. Now you are only
>> talking about SMTP what about pop3 which is a real resource hog when it
>> comes to collecting mail! 1 systems is not enough!
>
> Again, we don't know what his requirements are, so POP3 may not come
> into the equation (but if it does, you're quite correct.)
That calls for an optimised mailbox. If you use BSD format, then any
way of reading it is going to slow as the box grows. With Maildir, you're
back to inodes but POP isn't so slow.
> On the MTA front, I'd go for either Sendmail or Postfix. Sendmail's
> big and cumbersome, but it will do pretty much everything you'd need.
> postfix is much smaller and easier to use, but more limiting with what
> you can do with it.
Uh .. postfix doesn't look particularly small or limiting to me.
> I'd avoid Qmail if at all possible - it has
> definite problems when things get that large.
Pardon? I wonder what Hotmail and Yahoo will do when they get that large?
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ross Slade)
Subject: Re: Filtering spam with procmail
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 20:08:59 +1100
Ramin Sina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
RS> Could someone please tell me what I need to put in my .procmailrc if I
RS> want to forward all mail from .edu, .gov and .org domains to another
RS> account of mine, say foo.umd.edu, and reject (send back, not delete)
RS> all others?
Lots of good stuff here...
<http://www.ling.helsinki.fi/users/reriksso/procmail/links.html#pearls>y
<http://www.procmail.org/>
-Ross
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From: "Dela Lovecraft" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Module dependency problem
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 11:53:05 +0000
Dear All,
I have a problem. I tried to install SANE for my Plustek parallel scanner (didn't
work, btw - wrong scanner!), but now I have a problem with module deps
whenever Linux boots.
When it gets to that part in the startup script, it tells me that pt_drv.o has
unresolved problems, and no matter what I do - depmod -a, reinstalling
the kernel and modules, or recompiling everything - I still have this problem.
The SANE Plustek creates a new pt_drv.o file, but I have deleted this, adjusted
what files were changed the modules.dep file to remove the lines SANE Plustek
added, but still no joy.
Any ideas? I am told I may need to adjust /etc/conf.modules, but I have no idea
what to adjust.
Any help very gratefully received!
Dela Lovecraft
(using RH 6.1)
--
"We are all in the gutter,
But some of us are looking at the stars."
-- Oscar Wilde
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: locate - permission denied
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 11:01:08 GMT
When logged on as root, the command locate works fine. But for all
other users, 'locate' just gives the error message
locate: decode_db(): open: (13) Permission denied
Any help appreciated.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martha H Adams)
Subject: Re: Help! Urgent problem with gzip
Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 11:53:23 GMT
My first computer was a Radio Shack TRS-80. This machine would crash at
least twice in its first half hour of operation, and at least once per
half hour after that. It had other problems including its supplier; but
even so, I got good work done on it. There was a very special benefit from
this machine that's paid off ever since:
*Don't trust the system*
Namely, if anything can go wrong, it will. Otherwise known as Murphy's
Law. The mistake with this 180 MB file was not that something went
wrong but rather, that he trusted the system. He had a valuable file
existing in only one place; he hadn't suspiciously tested the saving and
transferring procedures before he relied upon them. There was no extra
copy sitting around somewhere else and safe. No backup.
Yes, the safe and careful way takes a little more time. But how long
to recreate the lost material?
Cheers -- Martha Adams
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From: "Andrew E. Schulman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Simple env problem
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 08:20:35 -0400
> Can someon explain why my cd command doesn't take me to $ORACLE_HOME?
>
> [lacalena] /home/oracle $env | grep ORACLE
> ORACLE_SID=ORCL
> ORACLE_BASE=/u01/app/oracle
> ORACLE_TERM=vt100
> ORACLE_HOME=/u01/app/oracle/product/8.1.5
> [lacalena] /home/oracle $cd $ORACLE_HOME
> [lacalena] /home/oracle $
Maybe it did, and your shell prompt didn't catch up?
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From: "Buck Turgidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Simple env problem
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 12:23:29 GMT
Maybe you're right!!!
[lacalena] /home/oracle $cd $ORACLE_HOME
[lacalena] /home/oracle $pwd
/u01/app/oracle/product/8.1.5
[lacalena] /home/oracle $
Thanks!!
Andrew E. Schulman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Can someon explain why my cd command doesn't take me to $ORACLE_HOME?
> >
> > [lacalena] /home/oracle $env | grep ORACLE
> > ORACLE_SID=ORCL
> > ORACLE_BASE=/u01/app/oracle
> > ORACLE_TERM=vt100
> > ORACLE_HOME=/u01/app/oracle/product/8.1.5
> > [lacalena] /home/oracle $cd $ORACLE_HOME
> > [lacalena] /home/oracle $
>
> Maybe it did, and your shell prompt didn't catch up?
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: locate - permission denied
Date: 2 Sep 2000 12:15:14 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: When logged on as root, the command locate works fine. But for all
: other users, 'locate' just gives the error message
: locate: decode_db(): open: (13) Permission denied
: Any help appreciated.
Relax permissions on the locate database? (man locate or strace it
if you're lazy). Why would you need help? It says it can't open
its database and gives you the reason. Surely the next question should
be "where is the database" or "how do I find out", not "any help
appreciated ..."?
Peter
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From: "Syberlase" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: pppd CHAP and BTConnect
Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 13:27:02 +0100
hi Andy,
if you have a look in the btinternet.linux newsgroup you'll find an
excellent faq.
good luck.
In article <8ogcm3$4cn$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi All
>
> Just switched to BT connect unmetered access and trying to get our
> Slackware box to connect.
>
> Had the setup working previously with Demon and Ezesurf, but these
> didn't use CHAP.
>
> Having worked through various problems, I think the problem may be with
> the actual CHAP secrets file.
>
> BT aren't a lot of help concerning linux, but they did confirm that they
> use CHAP.
>
> The connection works with Windoze, so the account is set up OK.
>
> Has anyone done this before?
>
> My current CHAP secrets file contains
>
> <my_BT_userid> * <my_BT_password>
> * <my_BT_userid> <my_BT_password>
>
> Any ideas?
>
> TIA Andy Hill
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Simple env problem
Date: 2 Sep 2000 12:31:52 GMT
Andrew E. Schulman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> Can someon explain why my cd command doesn't take me to $ORACLE_HOME?
:>
:> [lacalena] /home/oracle $env | grep ORACLE
:> ORACLE_SID=ORCL
:> ORACLE_BASE=/u01/app/oracle
:> ORACLE_TERM=vt100
:> ORACLE_HOME=/u01/app/oracle/product/8.1.5
:> [lacalena] /home/oracle $cd $ORACLE_HOME
:> [lacalena] /home/oracle $
: Maybe it did, and your shell prompt didn't catch up?
More likely a case of someone confused by his own symlinks. But agreed,
a "pwd" would be a datum that one could accept!
Peter
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From: Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Finding your clock speed
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 08:47:39 -0400
"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
> Naren Devaiah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : Bogomips isn't a true reflection of actual CPU speed.
>
> Uh, yes it is. What it isn't is actual processor speed. But it is a
> true reflection of it. For a pentium classic, for example, it is 0.4
> times the cpu clock on a correctly working cpu.
>
> Check the bogomips howto or man page.
>
> Peter
On my machine (two "550MHz" Pentium IIIs), I get:
Aug 8 16:27:20 valinux kernel: OEM ID:INTEL Product ID:
440GX APIC at: 0xFEE00000
Aug 8 16:27:20 valinux kernel: Processor #0 Pentium(tm) Pro APIC
version 17
Aug 8 16:27:20 valinux kernel: Processor #1 Pentium(tm) Pro APIC
version 17
Aug 8 16:27:20 valinux kernel: I/O APIC #2 Version 17 at 0xFEC00000.
Aug 8 16:27:20 valinux kernel: Processors: 2
Aug 8 16:27:20 valinux kernel: Detected 551266690 Hz processor.
Aug 8 16:27:20 valinux kernel: Calibrating delay loop... 550.50
BogoMIPS
Aug 8 16:27:20 valinux kernel: CPU0: Intel Pentium III (Katmai)
stepping 03
Aug 8 16:27:20 valinux kernel: calibrating APIC timer ...
Aug 8 16:27:20 valinux kernel: ..... CPU clock speed is 551.2652 MHz.
Aug 8 16:27:20 valinux kernel: ..... system bus clock speed is
100.2299 MHz.
Aug 8 16:27:20 valinux kernel: Booting processor 1 eip 2000
Aug 8 16:27:20 valinux kernel: Calibrating delay loop... 550.50
BogoMIPS
Aug 8 16:27:20 valinux kernel: OK.
Aug 8 16:27:20 valinux kernel: CPU1: Intel Pentium III (Katmai)
stepping 03
Aug 8 16:27:20 valinux kernel: Total of 2 processors activated
(1101.00 BogoMIPS).
So what do you mean when you ask (as I recognize you did not) what my
CPU speed is? The BogoMIPS are pretty close to the nominal and measured
CPU speeds. But do you want to know the combned speeds? Or the speed of
a single processor, and if so, which one? They are nominally the same
speed, but the calculations are a bit different. I imagine they run
from the same clock and the differences are due to the error inherent
in the measurement process (but I do not know this for sure). In other
words, what do you intend to use the resulting number for?
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.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^ 8:24am up 24 days, 15:53, 3 users, load average: 2.37, 2.43, 2.35
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From: Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: network connection speed command
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 08:53:12 -0400
Job Eisses wrote:
> Ping may reluctantly allow you to calculate the speed, if you are lucky,
> but not whether you are connected full- or half-duplex. It would help
> with debugging problems to know this. The information could only come
> from the card driver, i haven't seen one that did it yet, but the source
> says it will if the debug flag is on -job
>
> Chris wrote:
> >
> > Er, ping perhaps?
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > Joseph Cooley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I was wondering if anyone knows of a good command to find the speed at
> > > which a linux box is connected to the network. (i.e. 10 Mb/s or 100
> > > Mb/s, etc.)
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > > Joe
> > >
It must be possible, though, because when I run Windows 95 on my other
machine and look at the configuration of my Inter EEPro 10/100+ NIC, it knows
that it is running 100Mhz and in Full Duplex mode. While true, I do not
believe I ever told it that. I know I did not tell it here at the Linux end.
If Windows 95 can do it, surely Linux can do it.
--
.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^ 8:48am up 24 days, 16:16, 4 users, load average: 2.51, 2.27, 2.28
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Finding your clock speed
Date: 2 Sep 2000 12:58:02 GMT
Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> Uh, yes it is. What [bogomips] isn't is actual processor speed. But it
:> is a true reflection of it. For a pentium classic, for example, it is
:> 0.4 times the cpu clock on a correctly working cpu.
: On my machine (two "550MHz" Pentium IIIs), I get:
: Aug 8 16:27:20 valinux kernel: Detected 551266690 Hz processor.
: Aug 8 16:27:20 valinux kernel: Calibrating delay loop... 550.50
: BogoMIPS
A PPro has a 1-1 ratio between bogomips and clock (and a Pmmx has
a 2-1 ratio).
: Aug 8 16:27:20 valinux kernel: Total of 2 processors activated
: (1101.00 BogoMIPS).
: So what do you mean when you ask (as I recognize you did not) what my
: CPU speed is? The BogoMIPS are pretty close to the nominal and measured
: CPU speeds. But do you want to know the combned speeds? Or the speed of
Yes, well, the number of processors is obviously useful to know :-).
: words, what do you intend to use the resulting number for?
Friend-impressing, I guess. Pmmx's are pretty good for that. Lots of
bogons. I rather imagine that an athlon should be too, but that's just
me guessing wildly from what I know of the architecture. It must do
noops real fast!
Peter
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From: muzh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: looking for FAT32 gurus....
Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 01:04:51 +1200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> wow! I didn't expect such a harsh response. lemme explain why I posted
> here. I know you say that linux has nothing to do with FAT32 but.... it
> has support for FAT32 right? yes it does, so that means somewhere
> buried in the kernel is the code that handles interfacing with FAT32
> filesystems. As I have looked at the terrible support given by
> microsoft, I thought I would post here thinking that maybe some of the
> people who have experience with that sort of stuff would reply. How was
> I to know I would bashed for doing it. I think if the smartest people
> were really here, maybe you wouldn't have posted such an un-intelligent
> response.
>
> sorry to have wasted your valuable bandwidth.
>
I am very sorry for the response you got.
I am not a C guru, but maybe if you downloaded a linux kernel and
examined the source code in it you might find what you are looking for.
Go to ftp.kernel.org., and find a recent kernel (say
linux-2.2.16.tar.gz), download it and unzip it (winzip will unzip tar.gz
files) and then examine the plethora of files and directories which
result. You may find what you want in the fs directory -- under fat,
vfat, msdos, etc --
--
Never trust a man in a suit --
cll
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