Linux-Misc Digest #25, Volume #26                Sat, 14 Oct 00 06:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Windows reading Linux (Clayton Cheung)
  Re: Anybody get Netscape 6 Preview 3 to install? (Dave)
  Kpackage not installed in RH 7.0? (Anon O'Moose)
  Re: Can't Find X11R6 include files. (David Efflandt)
  Re: FTP login other than homedir (David Efflandt)
  Re: can't get via82cxxx to sing (".")
  russify konsole? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Redhat 7.0 + ApplixWare 4.37 (s. keeling)
  Netscape uses cache more than its quota? ("Kousik Nandy")
  Re: Netscape uses cache more than its quota? (Hal Burgiss)
  Re: Problems with Netscape on Linux (Ed Hurst)
  Tax Return Preparation (Christopher Browne)
  How addopt kernel 2.2.15 to RedHat 7.0 (Rafael)
  RedHat 6&7 POP3 delay (Arnis Zarins)
  Kernel from RH 6.2 on 7.0 (Rafael)
  Re: Ensoniq Sound Problem (Kailash Thakur)
  Tech Triangulation and Linux (YY Lee)
  Re: How will I restore back LILO (YY Lee)
  quake for linux? (Tijmen Stam)

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From: Clayton Cheung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Windows reading Linux
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 03:10:06 -0000

We all know that we can access Windows vfat in Linux, but can I do it the 
other way, that is, can I access Linux disk in Windows?

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From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Anybody get Netscape 6 Preview 3 to install?
Date: 13 Oct 2000 22:11:12 -0500

On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 16:24:56 -0500, Spicerun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>Dave wrote:
>
>> On 12 Oct 2000 09:14:25 -0500, Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >I can't get Netscape6 to install.  Downloaded the install but when I
>> >try to unzip it I get an error from tar.  I've cut and pasted the gzip
>> >-dc | tar -xvf line from the readme file but it doesn't work.
>>
>> I figured it out.   The f option is not needed on the tar command.
>> Netscape needs to fix their doco!
>>
>> Dave
>
>Or you need to put back the trailing dash you left off of the command.
>The command should be:
>
>gzip -dc (file) | tar -xvf -
>
>Without the trailing dash after the '-xvf ' you will have problems.  The
>Netscape documentation correctly tells you this (I think it also has a
>note in parenthesis warning not to leave off the trailing dash).

I didn't leave off anything.  Here's the relevant section of the
README file:

< begin quote>

*Installation Instructions -- Unix

1. If you are installing from the CD:
- Change to the Linux directory on the CD: cd linux. Then skip to 
step 3.

If you are downloading from the Netscape site:
- Download the netscape-i686-pc-linux-gnu-installer.tar.gz archive.

2. Untar the archive: 
gzip -dc netscape-i686-pc-linux-gnu-installer.tar.gz | tar -xvf

3. Change to the "netscape-installer" directory: cd netscape-installer

<snip - end quote>

I figured it out 10 minutes after I posted the question.  It's just
been too long (almost a year) since I last had a Linux system running
here.  I just installed Red Hat 7 last weekend and Netscape 6 the
other day.

It's running sort of OK.  The browser works fine, but I can't get the
Messenger part  connected to my news server yet.   I started to
download all the newsgroups, but I got into a bigtime disk swapping
session.  I eventually (after about a half hour) had to reboot.  Even
after shutting down Netscape and everything else, it was still
grinding the disk.

I've only got 64 meg ram on the system.  Moving the swap partition to
a different disk would probably help until I get more ram.

Dave





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From: Anon O'Moose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Kpackage not installed in RH 7.0?
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 23:43:24 -0400

Can't call Kpackage from the Red Hat 7.0 install I just did.  Is it not part of
the KDE packages installed in Red Hat 7.0?

Also, under Mandrake 7.0, I had a really cool icon on my desktop that allowed
me to mount my DOS drive (hda1 for me) but I have no icons for it under Red
Hat.  How should I modify my fstab and mtab to allow me to see the hda1 vfat
partition?

Thanks,
Sean McHenry

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Can't Find X11R6 include files.
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 03:44:52 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 13 Oct 2000 20:02:06 -0700, Brian & Colleen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Tried to install Perl/Tk so I could look at this little solitaire game I
>saw in The Perl Journal.  I figured I should look at Perl and this might
>be a good excuse.  During install,  I generated the messages:
>
>    "Cannot find X include files via /usr/X11R6/include"
>    "Cannot find X include files anywhere at ./myConfig line 312"
>    "Compilation failed in require at Makefile.PL line 17."
>
>Sure enough -- the directory exists but there are no header files in it.
>I looked at the distribution CD's (Mandrake) and checked out rpmfind and
>can't find anything that looks appropriate. I'm not big on C so I
>haven't needed the include files, but it looks like I need them now.
>Does anyone have any idea where I might be able to get them from.

Perhaps you need to install XFree86-devel which includes X11R6 static
libraries, headers and programming man pages.  This should be easy enough
to do with the Package Manager in DrakConf.

-- 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: FTP login other than homedir
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 03:54:14 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Excuse me, but I didn't find a FTP-specific newsgroup.
>I has a FTP server wu-FTP with Linux RH6.0. FTP server
>is fine for users that has like homedir /home/<user>.
>
>However, if I create an user and point his homedir for
>/home/httpd/html/site, it didn't work. I look at permissions:
>/home, /home/httpd and /home/httpd/html have rwxr-xr-x root.root.
>Then, /home/httpd/html/site has rwxr-xr-x <user>.root. Then, I
>think the permissions are ok for <user>, right ?

Wrong.  The group should match the main group that the user is in which
for RH is usually the same name as the username.  So assuming that their
username is 'site' you should:

chown -R site.site /home/httpd/html/site

>Is there some file to configure to allow other homedirs ?
>Something like /etc/ftp* ???

If you only want to allow them to ftp in (and not telnet) you might take a
look at 'man ftpd'.

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From: "." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: can't get via82cxxx to sing
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 05:01:51 +1300

Ive got similar problems with the same M/B but I get error on not saying
module failed due to device or resource busy.

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:39e7b52c$1$qnivfs$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Greetings!
>
> Trying to get this going under Mandrake Linux (and incidentally
> also under OS/2).
>
> The chip is on the mainboard -- I hate that! The board is a
> BIOSTAR m7vkb. The chip is supposed to emulate a soundblaster.
>
> I can get the soundblaster stuff (sb.o) to load without error but
> not a tone from the chip. Anyone have any insights?
>
> It works fine in Win98 of course.
>
> F.
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------
>      Felmon John Davis
>      [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>      [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>      Union College /  Schenectady, NY
>      os/2 - ma kauft koi katz em sack
> -----------------------------------------------------------
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: russify konsole?
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 03:57:48 GMT

Hi,

Is there any way to Russify konsole (KDE X terminal) or is it doomed to
display weird little symbols instead of cyrillic?

Wroot


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (s. keeling)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.applixware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Redhat 7.0 + ApplixWare 4.37
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 04:22:37 GMT

On 12 Oct 2000 16:43:50 GMT, Anders Nilsson <andersn@//no-spam//isy.liu.se> wrote:
> Hi There!
> 
> I have just made a fresh install of Redhat 7.0 and then added ApplixWare 4.37,
> but when I run applix it says the following and then exits:
> 
> /usr/bin/ldd: /opt/applix/applix: No such file or directory
> /bin/applix: /opt/applix/applix: No such file or directory
> /bin/applix: /opt/applix/applix: No such file or directory
> 
> However the file /opt/applix/applix does indeed exist.

What do you have installed for libraries, possibly
libcN-compat.blah.blah?  ldd is the shared lib info util.  What's in
/etc/ld.so.conf?  what does ldd /opt/applix/applix say?  As root, do
ldconfig.  man *                :-)


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From: "Kousik Nandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Netscape uses cache more than its quota?
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 10:04:07 +0530

Hi,
     Did anyone notice if Netscape is eating up more 
disk space as cache than it is asked to use?

$ rpm -q netscape-communicator
netscape-communicator-4.75-0.6.2

$ du -h ~/.netscape/cache/ | tail -1
51M     /home/kouzik/.netscape/cache

$ cat ~/.netscape/preferences.js | grep disk_cache_size
user_pref("browser.cache.disk_cache_size", 8192);

$  cat /etc/issue
Red Hat Linux release 6.1 (Cartman)
Kernel 2.2.14-12 on an i686

Anyone has any idea why netscape uses 51M of cache when
I asked it to use 8M? How do I limit this usage?

Thanks in advance,
Kousik.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Netscape uses cache more than its quota?
Reply-To: Hal Burgiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 04:50:19 GMT

On Sat, 14 Oct 2000 10:04:07 +0530, Kousik Nandy
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Anyone has any idea why netscape uses 51M of cache when
>I asked it to use 8M? How do I limit this usage?

AFAIK, it has been this way for some time. I use a cron job to delete
the whole bloody thing once a week. 

-- 
Hal B
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From: Ed Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problems with Netscape on Linux
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 21:04:12 -0500

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> System: RH 6.1, Netscape 4.75
>
> I'm experiencing a couple of problems with Netscape and was wondering if
> anyone else has had similar problems, and most importantly, has been
> able to find a solution (other then the obvious one of simply not using
> it).
> The address book is very flaky and useless. I've imported a list of
> addresses from my UNIX box at work and ever since, any attempts to enter
> an addressees name alias fails. If I'm lucky, netscape will squawk about
> "multiple entries" or in most cases fails to find the entry altogether
> (while it is clearly in the address book and is not duplicated).
> To make matters worse, if I open the address book to manually select an
> entry by selecting a name and choosing the "to" button, Netscape simply
> blows up. Gone, kaput, bus error, say goodnight! I can't find any other
> form of diagnostic information to help narrow down the problem.
> The composer is another issue, but I'll save this one for another
> thread.
> Appreciate any help on this,
> Karl
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

I remember reading and performing the fix for this sometime ago. I found it
on the server secnews.netscape.com, on the newsgroup for Unix. Sorry,
that's all I can offer for now.

Ed


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Tax Return Preparation
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 07:11:05 GMT

In our last episode (Fri, 13 Oct 2000 21:57:39 -0400),
the artist formerly known as Jean-David Beyer said:
>Matt O'Toole wrote:
>
>> Have you tried any of the net-based apps, which you can use from any web
>> browser?  There are reviews of them on ZDnet, Cnet, etc.
>
>No. I do not want to trust them to keep my data safely so I can restore them in
>case of error. I also wish to have control over my data even after they lose
>interest in providing the service. I do not wish to be forced to accept
>upgrades on their schedule instead of mine.

Unfortunately, all three of these issues seem to me to represent
inherently untenable positions.

The use of web-based tools to handle the information is not of _tremendous_
relevance; the lower-end "personal" tax tools running on Win32 do not
guarantee you more than minor improvements in, um, shall we call it
"resiliance"?

I'll agree that if the data sits on your disk drive, that you back up,
that may improve the safety of the data.

But if a particular vendor loses interest, or releases updates late,
it matters not a bit whether the software was sitting on the web or
sitting on your hard drive. If Kiplinger decides to go out of business,
or releases late, you have not the slightest bit more recourse than
you'd have at <http://www.tax-returns-on-the-web.com/>

And I don't think "free software" is too likely to have too much to
offer in this regard; the _BIG_ deal with tax preparation software is
not the software, but rather the encoding of tax regulations, which is
more like a "service" than it is like "sale of software."  

I could see someone building a "free" tax software _engine_; this would
amount to connecting together:
  a) An XML parser, to read through sets of rules and forms;
  b) A Prolog compiler, to process the "rules" side of this;
  c) A Form Engine, that would collect together a bunch of the
     Form information from a), and render this into screens,
     perhaps using a library like GTK;
  d) An embedded database engine to store the interim results, as there
     might be too much data to keep in memory, and certainly no point to
     that;
  e) Linkage to a text viewer (an HTML browser widget?) to jump you
     to help as needed.

That would then leave ample opportunity for a law office to charge
an annual fee for building together the set of:
  a) Rules (in something-like-Prolog);
  b) Forms (combining info on visual presentation with linkage to the
     rule database; this is probably in something-like-XML)
  c) Help Documents.

Frankly, it's probably a _better_ deal for the "intelligence" part
to sit on the web server, as that is the part that is unfortunately
all too easy to get wrong, and the part guaranteed to change every
year as the tax authorities' rules regularly change...
-- 
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every six months."  - Oscar Wilde

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From: Rafael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: How addopt kernel 2.2.15 to RedHat 7.0
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 09:54:44 +0200

I have working kernel with my Raid motherboard ( Abit BX-133-RAID) with
two additional ide controllers UATA 100. (from Gentus linux)
With the motherboard I got Gentus Linux which is based on RedHat 6.2
with kernel 2.2.15-3.   Kernel from RedHat 7.0 do not work with my ide2
and 3 controllers, but when I add kernell parameters during boot ( linux
ide2=0x8000 etc...) it work but not in UDMA mode therefore speed is 10
times slower.
I decided to adopt Kernel from Gentus to RedHAt 7.0. I installed first
Gentus, than Upgrade to RH 7.0 and then remove kernel 2.2.16 and
replaced with kernel 2.2.15 from Gentus. It is working but I am not sure
if all services will work. Can somebody give me advice how such
procedure should be done.
Please if you know write me email.

Rafael


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From: Arnis Zarins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: RedHat 6&7 POP3 delay
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 10:41:40 +0300
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Somebody must be seen this..

We have:
    - RedHat 7.0 (the same with 6.2)
        - xinetd (inetd in 6.2)
        - imap (used only for POP3)

While userxx's mailbox /var/spool/mail/userxx is empty (0 bytes), 
POP3 client (Netscape)runs very quick (immediately). Since there is
something in that file (e.g., only system message "DO NOT DELETE THIS
MESSAGE"), POP3 client stay for 2-3 seconds with 
"Host contacted: Sending login information".
The same symptoms with pine working on server directly (POP3 cannot
disturb):if /var/spool/mail/userxx  is empty, pine open inbox very
fast, if not - waiting for ~2sec.
    The  problem described above does not affects root. 

Where could be a solution for such delay?

Thanks in advance,
Arnis

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From: Rafael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Kernel from RH 6.2 on 7.0
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 11:10:46 +0200

Is it possible to run RH 7.0 on kernel from 6.2???

Rafael


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From: Kailash Thakur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ensoniq Sound Problem
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 09:10:02 -0000

Hi!
I have a problem with my ensoniq soundcard too . I configured the sound
when installing debian on my system a couple of weeks ago but the kernel
module doesnt seem to be working at all. I read "Dances with crows" posting
to Eli's question and tried a "cat /proc/pci " that gave me the following
output:

Bus 0, device 12, function 0:
Multimedia audio controller : Ensoniq ES1371 (rev 4).
Slow devsel. IRQ 9. Master Capable. Latency = 64. Min Gnt=12. Maxlat=128.
I/O at 0xef00[0xef01].

i then did a "modprobe es1371" and it executes with no error messages. 

But when i fire up xmms and play mp3s it gives me an error saying "couldnt
open audio". 

According to the linuxdoc.org Sound HOWTO a "cat /dev/sndstat" should give
me the configuration details of the soundcard. When i do a "cat
/dev/sndstat" it gives me this output:

                ---*start*---

OSS/Free:3.8s2++-971130
Load type: Driver loaded as a module
Kernel: Linux gongura 2.2.17 #1 Sun Jun 25 09:24:41 EST 2000 i686
Config options: 0

Installed drivers: 

Card config: 

Audio devices:

Synth devices:

Midi devices:

Timers:
0: System clock

Mixers:

                ---*end*---

The original kernel module had been configured with the "modconf" utility. 

I would really appreciate it if someone could shed some light on this
issue.

thanks,

Kailash.


Dances With Crows wrote:
> 
> 
> On Sat, 22 Jul 2000 00:57:59 -0500, Serial # 19781010 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I have and ensoniq Audio PCI. 
> >The problem I get is that is a error saying that my sound card is out
> >of range 0-0. 
> 
> Cards branded "Ensoniq AudioPCI" usually have the ES1371 or ES1370
> chipset.  What does "cat /proc/pci" tell you about this card?  I get the
> following output for mine:
>   Bus  0, device  11, function  0:
>     Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371 (rev 6).
>       Slow devsel.  IRQ 10.  Master Capable.  Latency=64.[...]
>       I/O at 0xec00 [0xec01].
> 
> A simple "modprobe es1371" gets sound working for me.  If that doesn't
> work for you, try "modprobe es1370", and if that doesn't work, post the
> *exact* text of whatever error messages you've received and we'll go
> from there.
> 
> -- 
> Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to
see
> Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin/   That which does not kill us
> http://www.brainbench.com    /    makes us stranger.
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From: YY Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Tech Triangulation and Linux
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 09:21:27 GMT

Bill Unruh wrote:

> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> YY Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> ]I'm sending my dual boot new Toshiba Tectra to Toshiba because the
> ]CD-ROM no longer works.  Me didn't tell them I left a CD in the drive
> ]for almost a month while mobilizing around.  The /dev/hda1 has Windows
>
> Well, you have told them now. However, I do not see how that should
> matter anyway.
>
> ]98 in the >2.1 GB while rest of 8.4 GB has Mandrake 7.1 using LILO as OS
> ]loader.  I'm gonna whack MBR so not to lose the warranty before shipping
>
> What warrenty? Are you telling me that your warrenty card states that
> the machine is only allowed to run Windows or the warrenty is void?
> Computer hardware warrenties should not depend on the software run on
> the machine!
>
> ]with MS-DOS 'fdisk /mbr' but not deleting its Linux contents.  How will
> ]I restore the LILO when I'll have it back?

When I called the Toshiba customer support they said to only support machines that
has operating system that came with it.

See "Tech Triangulation and Linux" article at
http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/opinions/2387/1.


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From: YY Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: How will I restore back LILO
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 09:22:52 GMT

"David .." wrote:

> YY Lee wrote:
> >
> > I'm sending my dual boot new Toshiba Tectra to Toshiba because the
> > CD-ROM no longer works.  Me didn't tell them I left a CD in the drive
> > for almost a month while mobilizing around.  The /dev/hda1 has Windows
> > 98 in the >2.1 GB while rest of 8.4 GB has Mandrake 7.1 using LILO as OS
> > loader.  I'm gonna whack MBR so not to lose the warranty before shipping
> > with MS-DOS 'fdisk /mbr' but not deleting its Linux contents.  How will
> > I restore the LILO when I'll have it back?
>
> Boot with the bootdisk that you made during the install and enter
> /sbin/lilo at a command line.
>

I can't find the bootdisk I created when I first installed Mandrake 7.1 in my
notebook.  How do I generate the bootdisk then?


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From: Tijmen Stam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: quake for linux?
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 12:14:02 +0200

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Hi.
I thought there was a quake (1) for linux fersion already out in stores,
but I couldn't find any on games.linux.com. Can anyone tell me anything
about it?

p.s. I found about quake III, but I don't think a "trio 3d/2v" qualifies
as a 3d card, does it...

Tijmen

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