Linux-Misc Digest #84, Volume #26 Thu, 19 Oct 00 20:13:01 EDT
Contents:
Re: Determinig functions build in Kernel (Mark Post)
Re: efficiency of linux fs vs vfat or ntfs (Larry Ebbitt)
Re: End-User Alternative to Windows (Larry Ebbitt)
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (John Hasler)
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? ("Jan Schaumann")
Re: Refreshing a new symbolic link to a library in /usr/lib (PB)
Re: What is a good graphical mail client? (John Travis)
Re: Improving fonts (SO 5.2) (Gipson Arnold)
Re: Netscape Download ? (Paul Lew)
console fonts (John Nelson)
Re: Star office accesses my hard drive every few seconds!? (Gipson Arnold)
Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
*.bin files??? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Linux 6 - ODBC (Mark Greenwood)
Re: What is a good graphical mail client? (walt)
Re: Java Servlets on Redhat 7.0 ("Alexander Lindhorst")
Re: What is a good graphical mail client? (Gregory Spath)
Re: LS-120 woes... (Bo Berglund)
Re: LS-120 again.. (Bo Berglund)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Post)
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: Determinig functions build in Kernel
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 22:11:52 GMT
On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 17:22:46 +0200, "J.Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>When troubleshooting some issues with linux, it often seems like a good idea
>to verify that the functionality one is looking for, has indeed been
>compiled, either directly into the kernel or as an module. For example, the
>solution to a sound or network problems can sometimes be as simple as
>determining that there is no sound support compiled into the kernel, or that
>a module for a specific card has not been built.
>I was wondering if it is possible to determine and verify which functions
>have been built into the kernel, and which functions have been built as
>modules? Talking about a 2.2.16 kernel here. I thought that you might be
>able to get this info from /proc on a running kernel, or with some other
>clever debugging tools on a non-running kernel, but unfortunatly I have no
>idea how to accomplish this.
So far as I know, there is no way to extract this information from a running
system. If you are using the same kernel that you chose during the
installation process, you can go back to the install media, and look at the
config file for that kernel. If you have created a customized kernel, then
the definitive source is the .config file in the /usr/src/linux directory
where you did the make config/xconfig/menuconfig.
Mark Post
Postmodern Consulting
Information Technology and Systems Management Consulting
To send me email, replace 'nospam' with 'home'.
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Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 18:13:02 -0400
From: Larry Ebbitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: efficiency of linux fs vs vfat or ntfs
TM wrote:
2. when using vfat or ntfs from linux does the fs strategies &
> efficiency vary from the use under windows.
It's safe to say that VFAT is inefficient no matter the environment.
Truly, I doubt the driving system would make much difference.
--
Larry Ebbitt - Linux + OS/2 - Atlanta
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Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 18:21:31 -0400
From: Larry Ebbitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Gardiner Family wrote:
>
> In theory, say if Microsoft made the DOS component of Windows totally 32bit and
> then slapped Windows (made totally 32bit) on top, would this result in a more
> stable OS, if so, why didn't MS do it? Just a question :)
>
Stability is not dependent on word size. It's more a function of design
and code quality. Microflaccid is poor at both.
--
Larry Ebbitt - Linux + OS/2 - Atlanta
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 21:35:22 GMT
Haoyu Meng writes:
> U need to read a whole book to understand how to use Latex. I am in the
> business of writing books using computers. I don't want to have to learn
> programming to do that.
I've just about finished teaching myself to use Lyx: about four hours
total, using only the on-line docs. Of course, I have an unfair advantage:
I've never used a "word processor".
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
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From: "Jan Schaumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 18:28:19 +0400
"Garry Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, Jan Schaumann wrote:
>>Garry Knight wrote:
>
>>>Most of the word processors I've come across can import and export RTF
>>>pretty well.
>>
>>The most portable document format is PDF (Portable Document FOrmat -
>>D'uh). RTF is not half as portable.
>
> Great. Let's see you "port" a PDF document into Word 97.
See <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> further below.
Opening one document-type with an application that is not intended to
handle that type can not produce the correct output.
*You* try opening a word-document with xv.
Cheers,
-Jan
--
Jan Schaumann <http://www.netmeister.org>
Please add smileys where appropriate.
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From: PB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Refreshing a new symbolic link to a library in /usr/lib
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 18:40:34 -0400
Reply-To: pboin @ mindspring com
aflinsch in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>PB wrote:
>>
>> OK, let's see if I can explain this clearly:
>>
>> Trying to install a binary .rpm, and I got a failed dependency on
>> libjpeg.so.6.
>>
>> Fine, go to /usr/lib, and do a 'ls -al libjpeg.so*'.
>>
>> There's a real binary there (libjpeg.so.62.0.0), and two symbolics
>> pointing to it. One is libjpeg.so, and one is libjpeg.so.62.
>>
>> At this point, I figure I should be OK by creating a new third
>> symbolic pointing to the real binary and naming it libjpeg.so.6, which
>> is the dependency that the rpm complained about.
>>
>> What do I need to do to re-catalog / re-index / re-whatever, so that
>> the system realizes that I've made the new symbolic link to the real
>> library?
>
>
>If I read this correctly, you already made the symlink, and are having
>problems getting rpm to recognize it.
>
>rpm checks against it's own database, not against the actual
>filesystem. Creating the symlink might work, but rpm just won't see
>it. What you need to do is tell rpm to ignore dependencies. try the
>following command
>
>rpm -i whatever.binary.rpm -- nodeps
>
>and see if that works
well, yes and no
the app (xIrc) does run, ut when i start it from a term. in X, I get a
bunch of warnings that say "xxx has diferent size in shared object,
consider re-linking."
the app starts ok, but I haven't fully tested it yet
thanks for the push
--
PB
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Travis)
Crossposted-To: linux.debian.user
Subject: Re: What is a good graphical mail client?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 22:28:25 GMT
And Larry Ebbitt spoke unto the masses:
>John Travis wrote:
>>
>> Kmail for kde2 is probably the nicest graphical client I have found. It should
>> do everything you are looking for quite nicely.
>>
>
>Kmail is fine, except that I have found no way to get it to format incoming
>messages to a reasonable width. This may be my ignorance (likely.) If so,
>I'd just love to hear a suggestion.
Hmm... now that I look at it, they do seem to be a little bit "too" wrapped.
I'll have a look at and get back to you on that one :-). It's still by far the
best graphical client I have found. I suppose the mozilla nightly builds aren't
to bad either (although I haven't extensively used them for mail). I couldn't
believe there wasn't a "wrap incoming text at ..." in the config for Kmail
though :-(.
jt
--
Debian GNU/Linux [Woody]
2.4.0-test9-ReiserFS
You mean there's a stable tree?
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From: Gipson Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Improving fonts (SO 5.2)
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 17:49:24 -0500
Aulne wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> This must have been asked several times before. How can I improve the
> fonts used by Star Office 5.2 ? I see SO does an excellent job at importing
> Word files but seems to be restricted by the fonts. Specific zooming ratios
> (eg. 100% with arial font) gives not very good results. Is there a way to
> improve this? I am using latest "stock" Mandrake distribution with basic
> installation. I also use Win NT in a VMWare window.
>
> Regards,
>
> Alain
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
Font capability is provided by XFree86. Only the newest versions of
XFree86 (4.x) provide native True-Type font support. I don't know what
version of XFree86 comes with the latest Mandrake release. If you have
4.x and it still doesn't work, then some tweaking should do the job.
Otherwise, you will either have to upgrade to 4.x or install a patch
(and do more tweaking). For a fairly good description of all this go to
the XFree86 Font De-Uglification Page at:
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/FDU/index.html
Good Luck!
- Gipson
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Lew)
Subject: Re: Netscape Download ?
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 22:58:00 GMT
On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 19:37:15 GMT, Daniel C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Philo wrote:
>>
>> i was going to download some rpm's using Red Hat 6.0 /Netscape...
>> when i tried to download...all i saw was symbolic text filling my browser...
>> when i rebooted to windows and tried to download the same rpm i had no
>> problem...so just downloaded it into a shared windows/linux partition...
>> but what the heck was the Netscape browser doing???
>> i haven't a clue as to what was going on.
>>
>
>You can teach Netscape to recognize .rpm as something to download by
>clicking edit|preferences|navigator|applications|new...
>Set up .rmp as a new file type and choose 'save to disk' or 'ask user'.
>It is useful to set up .tar.gz, .bz2 and other common formats this way.
>
>Dan
Or just pressing the "shift" key when clicking on the "download"; this
will tell netscape to "save to/as a file". The problem with ".rpm" is
that is/was also used for RealPlayer files.....
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From: John Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: console fonts
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 16:13:25 -0700
Years ago, the Slackware distributions I was using offered a choice of VGA
fonts
for the command line/console display.
Can anyone tell me how I might change the console font on a RedHat box?
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From: Gipson Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Star office accesses my hard drive every few seconds!?
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 18:21:04 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Anyone know what causes Star Office to access my hard drive every
> few seconds and how to make it stop that?
>
> The older Star Office doesn't do this but now that I have a newer
> version it's acting up with this.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Tony
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
When I loaded Star Office (just recently), it had a long warning at the
beginning of the setup listing several things to do. I imagine that a
lot of people ignored this message. One of the things it said was to set
the environment variable "STAR_SPOOL_DIR" to equal "/tmp". In the bash
shell that would be:
export STAR_SPOOL_DIR=/tmp
You might try this if you didn't do it during SO setup.
I hope this helps.
- Gipson
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 23:29:06 GMT
On Wed, 18 Oct 2000 09:28:49 -0400, Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Gardiner Family wrote:
>
>> In theory, say if Microsoft made the DOS component of Windows totally 32bit and
>> then slapped Windows (made totally 32bit) on top, would this result in a more
>> stable OS, if so, why didn't MS do it? Just a question :)
>>
>> Matt
>
>I think they intended to do that with the first release of NT. I suppose they
>failed because of all the backwards compatability issures and the rush to release
>the stuff before it was ready. Once they got into those bad habits, it was tough
>to start over yet again and do it right. Their embedded base is so large that I
>imagine they will never get another opportunity to get it right. I think their
>corporate culture militates against doing it right, too. I had hoped Steve Ballmer
>(sp.?) could turn that around, but I guess it is too low on his priority list.
MS has never given more than a slight interest to backward compatibility. They
would prefer that everyone replace their MS-office suite everytime a new OS
version is released.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: *.bin files???
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 23:22:16 GMT
I recently downloaded staroffice from sun site, but its in .bin format,
how do I expand them & install, nothing seems to expand this, I tried
pkzip, stuffit expander, tar...
I know they are encoded, but how do I un-encode them & expand later..
any help will be greatly appreciated..
Nagaraj.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Mark Greenwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux 6 - ODBC
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 10:33:26 +1000
I am trying to access a Solid database from perl using ODBC.
I have the ODBC driver for perl but I am unsure as to how I setup the ODBC service on
linux so that the perl ODBC driver has something talk to.
Can anybody help me?
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From: walt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.debian.user,linux.debian.www
Subject: Re: What is a good graphical mail client?
Date: 19 Oct 2000 16:48:14 -0700
Richard Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> walt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > My outgoing (smtp) server requires authentication with username and
> > password to control spam. So far Netscape is the only linux app that
> > I've found that will do that. Any others you know of?
>
> what about installing an MTA (like exim for instance) on your local
> system? Then you can use whatever you like.
Hi,
Can I configure my local exim to do that kind of authentication with a
remote mail server? That would do the trick nicely.
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Reply-To: "Alexander Lindhorst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Alexander Lindhorst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Java Servlets on Redhat 7.0
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 01:51:20 +0100
I have a RH 5.2 distribution. However, I'm running a 2.2.16 kernel, my glibc
is 2.1.3, and I've done a bunch of other updates lately - so by now I'm
probably closer to a RH 7.0 than to a 5.2. I've got Servlets running on
Apache 1.3.12 and JServ 1.2 with a Sun Microsystem JRE 1.3 - works great! In
addition I compiled mod_ssl into Apache, too - solid as a rock. If you want
to fool around a little bit with encryption without losing your "normal"
httpd, it's a good way to go.
Alexander
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gregory Spath)
Crossposted-To: linux.debian.user
Subject: Re: What is a good graphical mail client?
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 00:00:08 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I just started using kmail myself, and am pretty impressed. The version that
will ship with KDE 2.0 looks nice. They are starting to approach what I
enjoyed in OS/2 (and unfortunately windoze) with PMMail. If only pmmail would
be ported to linux. Kmail is getting there.
-- Greg
In <dAKH5.13338$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Travis ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
>And Larry Ebbitt spoke unto the masses:
>>John Travis wrote:
>>>
>>> Kmail for kde2 is probably the nicest graphical client I have found. It should
>>> do everything you are looking for quite nicely.
>>>
>>
>>Kmail is fine, except that I have found no way to get it to format incoming
>>messages to a reasonable width. This may be my ignorance (likely.) If so,
>>I'd just love to hear a suggestion.
>
>Hmm... now that I look at it, they do seem to be a little bit "too" wrapped.
>I'll have a look at and get back to you on that one :-). It's still by far the
>best graphical client I have found. I suppose the mozilla nightly builds aren't
>to bad either (although I haven't extensively used them for mail). I couldn't
>believe there wasn't a "wrap incoming text at ..." in the config for Kmail
>though :-(.
>
>
>jt
>--
>Debian GNU/Linux [Woody]
>2.4.0-test9-ReiserFS
>You mean there's a stable tree?
--
Gregory Spath
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://freefall.homeip.net/
SCHeckler on IRC ----------> http://freefall.homeip.net/javairc/
Team YBR ------------------> http://www.yellowbreechesracing.org/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bo Berglund)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: LS-120 woes...
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 00:03:16 GMT
On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 15:35:12 -0400, Leejay Wu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
... snip ...
>
>Your mount point does exist as a directory already, right?
>
># su
># mkdir /mnt/LS120
># mount -t vfat /dev/hdc1 /mnt/LS120
Done and works, except I found (by trial & error) that it is hdc4,
which is NOT reported by fdisk....
... snip ...
>
>Then, if it works, you'll be able to add a line to the /etc/fstab
>file, like
>
>
>/dev/hdc1 /mnt/LS120 vfat noauto 0 0
>
Done, except it is hdc4
>substituting for the mount point as desired, or the device if
>it's really a different partition etc. After that, a simple
>
>'mount /mnt/LS120'
>
>should work.
And it really does!!!
>
>> (hda1, hda2, hdb, hdc, hdd with or without numbers..)
>> It is all so very confusing, one might believe that once the drive is
>> found it would be accessible too, but no.. :-(
>
>It is, once you find the correct incantation. ;-)
>
Thanks 1000! With your help it is now done! I can read my floppies
just fine.
Next task is finding out if lilo can boot from a start floppy in this
drive (guess it cannot, must be a BIOS option most probably...)
Bo Berglund
Software developer in Sweden
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
PGP: My public key is available at the following locations:
Idap://certserver.pgp.com
http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bo Berglund)
Subject: Re: LS-120 again..
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 00:05:25 GMT
On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 17:59:49 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bo Berglund)
wrote:
>When I used the LS-120 in my WinNT4 machine it could read *both* 120Mb
>and 1.44Mb floppies. The type was apparently checked when the disk was
>inserted.
>Question: is this not possible in Linux?
>That would explain my difficulties with the LS-120 drive, but it also
>makes me without means to transfer information into my Linux
>machine...
>
Problem solved with help from Leejay Wu (see another LS-120 thread)
Thanks Leejay Wu!
Bo Berglund
Software developer in Sweden
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
PGP: My public key is available at the following locations:
Idap://certserver.pgp.com
http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371
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