Linux-Misc Digest #301, Volume #26               Mon, 13 Nov 00 15:13:02 EST

Contents:
  Re: Memory leak?
  filters with pine (Jerome ALLARD)
  Re: Memory leak? (k)
  Re: Memory leak? (Andreas =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=E4h=E4ri?=)
  Re: filters with pine (Jan Schaumann)
  Re: Installing Linux ("Dusty Dew")
  Re: soundcard recommendation (Adam K Kirchhoff)
  Re: Need help converting files to unix format ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: Installing Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Oracle 8i on RH Linux 7.0 ("Lamar Thomas")
  Re: Software RAID ("Jason from The Workshop")
  Need to run fsck on the / partition and need help ("Brian E. Parker")
  Re: LinkSys betrayed us!  Poor prospects for Linux. (Michael Erskine)
  Re: LinkSys betrayed us! Poor prospects for Linux. (Michael Erskine)
  Re: Dang it.. How does this find work?? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Oracle 8i on RH Linux 7.0 (Scott Schaefer)
  Re: filters with pine (Jerome ALLARD)
  gtop shows processes that aren't there? (Jason Wagner)
  Re: Installing Linux ("Niwr�")
  Re: Memory leak? (Greg Engel)
  Re: Memory leak? (Greg Engel)
  Re: Memory leak? (Greg Engel)
  Re: Need to run fsck on the / partition and need help (E J)
  Re: Memory leak?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Memory leak?
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 17:11:51 GMT

On Mon, 13 Nov 2000 11:53:31 -0500, Greg Engel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I was wondering if anyone could give me some advice on this.
>
>I've noticed that I seem to have a memory leak somewhere in my system.
>Over the course of 72 hours or so, the memory used on my system goes
>from 72 MB to 225 MB.  No one needs to be logged into the workstation
>for this to happen.  Does anyone know a utility to tell me what is using
>this memory?  Top does not show that the memory is in use by any
>process, but it does show that the memory is unavailable.

On a per process basis, gtop will show memory usage.

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From: Jerome ALLARD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: filters with pine
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 18:08:43 +0100

Hello World, 

I'd like to filter my mails with pine, as one can do with netscape (by
moving some kinds of mails to specific folders).
Any ideas ? Thanks.

                GG

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (k)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Memory leak?
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 17:12:56 GMT

Greg Engel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>My system is running the 2.4.0-0.37smp kernel from RedHat (same problem
>with the shipping RedHat 2.4.0-0.26smp kernel, hence the upgrade) and
>Redhat 7.0.  The system is using autofs, nfs, and nis, and
>unfortunately, it is acting as a server so I can't very well turn off
>services for 72 h at a time.  I'm also using tripwire extensively, and
>I'm fairly certain that I haven't been hacked.

have you tried using a _stable_ kernel?

-- 
A great frustration in life is discovering that sometimes those who
say something can't be done turn out to be right.
 -Donald Simanek

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=E4h=E4ri?=)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Memory leak?
Date: 13 Nov 2000 18:13:41 +0100

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Greg Engel wrote:
>I was wondering if anyone could give me some advice on this.
>
>I've noticed that I seem to have a memory leak somewhere in my system.
>Over the course of 72 hours or so, the memory used on my system goes
>from 72 MB to 225 MB.  No one needs to be logged into the workstation
>for this to happen.  Does anyone know a utility to tell me what is using
>this memory?  Top does not show that the memory is in use by any
>process, but it does show that the memory is unavailable.
>
>My system is running the 2.4.0-0.37smp kernel from RedHat (same problem
>with the shipping RedHat 2.4.0-0.26smp kernel, hence the upgrade) and
>Redhat 7.0.  The system is using autofs, nfs, and nis, and
>unfortunately, it is acting as a server so I can't very well turn off
>services for 72 h at a time.  I'm also using tripwire extensively, and
>I'm fairly certain that I haven't been hacked.
>
>If anyone has any ideas about what could be causing this (I did turn off
>rhnd --that's not it), I'd appreciate the insight.
>
>Thanks!
>
>-Greg
>
>


Is this a real memory leak or are you viewing "buffered" and "cached"
memory as "unavailable"?

The "cached" memory are used as a dynamic cache. Data and code that is
being used frequently goes into this part of the memory. It is freed
and allocated as needed by the OS. The "buffered" memory is also
handled by the OS.

All the memory not locked up by a process (the "SIZE" column in 'top')
are available for other processes to allocate.

/A


-- 
Andreas K�h�ri, Uppsala University, Sweden (until 1:st of Dec. 2000)
========================================================================
"If you leave now, you're going to miss the real experience."
-- Richard M. Stallman, Stockholm 1986.  Visit www.gnu.org

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jan Schaumann)
Crossposted-To:  comp.mail.pine
Subject: Re: filters with pine
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 17:21:55 GMT

Jerome ALLARD wrote:
>Hello World, 
>
>I'd like to filter my mails with pine, as one can do with netscape (by
>moving some kinds of mails to specific folders).

usually this would be done via procmail, I would think. However, maybe the
experts in comp.mail.pine know some magic (xpost &fup2).

-Jan

-- 
Jan Schaumann <http://www.netmeister.org>

Dr. Zoidberg: "Now I'm not saying Professor Farnsworth is old, but if you
consider his age he's likely to die soon." 

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From: "Dusty Dew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Installing Linux
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 11:18:47 -0600

Yes you can install it past the 1024th cylinder, just make sure you make a
boot floppy.

~Dusty

Etienne Laurin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Greetings,
>
> I would like to install Linux (Mandrake Linux 7.2 to be exact) on my
> hard drive which is partitioned in multiple 2Gb partitions and
> considering that it would be installed on the third partition (an
> extended partition I think), it would be passed the 1024e cylinder. I
> would like to know if it is possible to install (and boot) Linux passed
> the 1024e cylinder. If it is not possible to boot Linux from "so far",
> could I still install it on that partition and boot from a floppy disk
> to bypass the 1024e cylinder problem. And if I boot from a floppy disk
> every time I wish to boot in Linux, I would like some to confirm me that
> it wouldn't change anything if I do a fdisk /mbr to boot my Windows
> without having to go through LILO every time I boot my computer.
>
> Thank you.
>



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From: Adam K Kirchhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: soundcard recommendation
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 17:27:37 GMT


On Mon, 13 Nov 2000, Bob van der Poel wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > Bob van der Poel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > I'd like to get a recommendation for a soundcard for my system (a
> > > homebrew Celeron 330). I will be using the soundcard for 2 serious
> > > applications:
> > 
> > >       1. Playing midi files though an external synth,
> > >       2. I need to record a stack of records and tapes to convert to CDs.
> > 
> > > Currently I have a Gravis Max installed. I know a bunch of folk will
> > > write to tell me how wonderful this card is...and it would be for me as
> > > well if I could get any program other than 'rec' (which uses sox?) to
> > > record...and at that the records are not very good quality.
> > 
> > > Thanks!
> > 
> > I've had luck with both a SoundBlaster Live (emu10k1) and an Ensonique PCI
> > (es1371) under linux.  Although I've never just recorded audio from the mic,
> > I have recorded audio tracks for video on the Line In and CD channels.
> > 
> > Adam
> 
> Thanks. I was looking at an Ensonique, but I read an online review
> saying that the recording on it was crappy....

I'm surprised...  I certainly don't have any complaints, but perhaps my 
expectations are lower than the reviewers :-)

> For the price I'm thinking
> I'll try one and if it doesn't work I can live with the loss.

True...  They are rather inexpensive.  And a place like CompUSA might even
let you return it if it doesn't work very well for you.

Adam



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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need help converting files to unix format
Date: 13 Nov 2000 16:30:28 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: Is there a way to convert a group of files (recursively?) into unix
: format?

man ed, sed, vi, emacs, dos2unix, tr.

 tr -d '\r'

strikes me as the simplest, though it's mildy possible to make a
mistake.

Peter

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Installing Linux
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 17:33:58 GMT

There are a couple of solutions including using Partition Magic to
create a small boot partition in the beginning of your disk OR if you
are running NT you could do this

http://howto.tucows.com/LDP/HOWTO/mini/Linux+NT-Loader.html


In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Etienne Laurin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I would like to install Linux (Mandrake Linux 7.2 to be exact) on my
> hard drive which is partitioned in multiple 2Gb partitions and
> considering that it would be installed on the third partition (an
> extended partition I think), it would be passed the 1024e cylinder. I
> would like to know if it is possible to install (and boot) Linux
passed
> the 1024e cylinder. If it is not possible to boot Linux from �so far�,
> could I still install it on that partition and boot from a floppy disk
> to bypass the 1024e cylinder problem. And if I boot from a floppy disk
> every time I wish to boot in Linux, I would like some to confirm me
that
> it wouldn�t change anything if I do a fdisk /mbr to boot my Windows
> without having to go through LILO every time I boot my computer.
>
> Thank you.
>
>


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: "Lamar Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Oracle 8i on RH Linux 7.0
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 09:37:03 -0800

I am using the "Oracle 8i for Linux Starter Kit" book and the Oracle CD that
came with the book.  I have read good things about the book on "Amazon.com".
There is also an "Oracle 8i for NT Starter kit".

However, that is where I got my error:  "Initializing Database" (see my
first post in this chain).

Lamar


"Marco Shaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:p4lP5.2904$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Yes:
>
> 1. otn.oracle.com where you can get a free account, and continue from
there.
> 2. Buy the Oracle Press/Osborne book: Oracle 8i for Linux Starter Kit to
get
> the CD.
>
> Marco
>
> "Doug Holtz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:3a0d859e$0$99041$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Where can I get Oracle for Linux?  Is there a free download version?
>
>
>



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From: "Jason from The Workshop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.linux
Subject: Re: Software RAID
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 11:49:49 -0600

I've done RAID 0 and RAID 1 devices. I have not managed to get the GUI to do
a RAID10 and I havent tried a RAID5 yet, but I may just do that tonight


--
                          Jason
         www.cyborgworkshop.com
...and the geek shall inherit the earth...



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From: "Brian E. Parker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Need to run fsck on the / partition and need help
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 12:44:07 -0600

Hello,

At my previous job, I had a Redhat 6.2 box set up that handled a small
amount of mail, ran a few majordomo lists, and did some web serving.  This
weekend, the people there unpluged the box on accident and it won't boot
normally because of some errors on /dev/hda8, which just happens to be the /
partition.

>From what they are tlling me over the phone, this is what is happening.
They turn the machine on, and it gets to LILO: then tries to boot the
kernal.  It runs the pre-check on /dev/hda8 ( I had him look at the
/etc/fstab to find out what partition that is, and it's the root / ) and has
a problem.  From what he says, it takes him to a point where he can type in
the root password and get to a command-line ( a "pwd" showed /root ) and
tells him he can run fsck manually or hit ^D to kill the shell.  I get him
to the command-line with the root password and we tried running fsck with
different parameters, but it doesn't seem to fix it because after a reboot,
it takes him right back to the password prompt after giving the same error
messages when trying to do the initial fsck on /dev/hda8.

What options should I run on fsck to get it to fix the root partition?  If
this isn't the correct way to approach this problem, what is?

None of the data on this machine is real critical, but it would be nice for
them to get it back up and running the way it was, because noone there has
the know-how to reinstall and get majordomo running.

Any help is appreciated.  I'm not on-site where the machine is, so if it
takes a couple days to get back to any questions you may have, it's because
I have to call them and talk them through anything you guys suggest.

TIA,
-BEP



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From: Michael Erskine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: LinkSys betrayed us!  Poor prospects for Linux.
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 14:00:16 -0500

Arctic Storm babbled:

> LinkSys wants us to *download* the
> necessary files/drivers, but without the drivers, I can't get on the
> internet to download them.

Use the Win2000 system of which you seem to be so fond.

> 
> Linux has a long way to go before it can become a common platform, if at
> all.

Linux is ALREADY a common platform.

> Linux is for hobbiest who have time to tinker with their computers.

Linux is for Computer Scientists who know how to use computers and for
people who WANT to learn how to use computers.

> There are no simple ways to click-and-drag to get things working.

See above.

> Everything is a struggle;

See above.

> you have to learn something new for every petty
> task.

See above.

>  Imagine if you had to know how the car's engine transferred power via
> the transmission system before you can drive your car,...

Imagine if you had to understand TCP/IP to use it.  Imagine if you had to
write X to use it.  Imagine...  Imagine that you are not too lazy and
spoiled from MicroCrap that you decide to LEARN something.

> Few of us know
> how a calculator works, and we take it for granted and use it as a fuctional
> tool.

Yep, calculators are intuitive, so is documentation READING. 

> That's what a computer should be; a functional tool to increase
> productivity.

Then you don't WANT to learn Linux because it is MUCH MORE than that.  It
is a functional tool that helps one LEARN about computers.

> Too much time/effort is required to use Linux.

For a mere user...

> However, Win2K is just as stable, but easy and user-friendly.

Win2K is absolutly not even remotely close to being as stable if you try to
make it do REAL work.

> How much is my time worth?

Probably not much, you don't understand networking, Linux, or computers.

> How much is Win2K?

More than it is worth.

> Win2K starts to seem pretty attractive,...

By all means, go to the MS-Pukes group and bad mouth Linux there.


Thanks for your uneducated, lazy, worthless opinion...

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From: Michael Erskine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: LinkSys betrayed us! Poor prospects for Linux.
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 14:06:44 -0500

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> could SOMEBODY pls. provide a step-by-step approach to this
> problem...dont want to give up on linux. not just yet...

You would quit Linux because LinkSys sold you a piece of crap?

Go to the next computer show and shop around the bins for an
old SMC Ultra or damned neary ANYTHING else.  Stay away from
Weird crap...  spent $20.00 get three different cards...

How hard is this anyway.  We have thirty people trying to figure
out how to solve this problem and the problem is at LinkSys.

Just write them and tell them want your refund, thanks very much.

Be done with the problem...

How much IS your time worth?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.linux
Subject: Re: Dang it.. How does this find work??
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 18:57:51 GMT

Well guys after two week after the original problem occured, I solved
my own problem.

Here is the solution to look in the current directory for files with
two strings.

find . -exec grep -li -e first_string -e second_string {} \;

YEahhh I don't have to write a script!!!!



In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Bob Niederman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > I am looking for two strings named 'asdf for me' and 'none for you'
> > through a set of text files, I can get a listing of the files that
have
> > one string by typing in
> >
> > find . -exec grep -l 'asdf for me' {} \;
> >
> > buy how do I get a listing that has both strings??
> >
> > ARRgghhh!
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
>
> if you're using linux, the GNU version of egrep can do it recursively,
> so:
>
> egrep -r  "asdf for me|none for you" .
>
> --
> - Bob Niederman http://bob-n.com
> Fight UCITA! http://www.4cite.org, http://bob-n.com/ucita
>


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 14:33:53 -0500
From: Scott Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Oracle 8i on RH Linux 7.0

And if you read my first reply in this chain, you will get your
answer ....

This is a known problem on RedHat 7.x; Oracle installs and runs
w/o problem on Redhat 6.x [assuming you meet minimum sys requirements,
esp. memory] ... there may be workaraounds/fixed for v7.0 by now; see 
http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=18391


Lamar Thomas wrote:
> 
> I am using the "Oracle 8i for Linux Starter Kit" book and the Oracle CD that
> came with the book.  I have read good things about the book on "Amazon.com".
> There is also an "Oracle 8i for NT Starter kit".
> 
> However, that is where I got my error:  "Initializing Database" (see my
> first post in this chain).
> 
> Lamar
> 
> "Marco Shaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:p4lP5.2904$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Yes:
> >
> > 1. otn.oracle.com where you can get a free account, and continue from
> there.
> > 2. Buy the Oracle Press/Osborne book: Oracle 8i for Linux Starter Kit to
> get
> > the CD.
> >
> > Marco
> >
> > "Doug Holtz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:3a0d859e$0$99041$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Where can I get Oracle for Linux?  Is there a free download version?
> >
> >
> >

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From: Jerome ALLARD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: filters with pine
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 20:18:01 +0100

Jerome ALLARD wrote:
> 
> Hello World,
> 
> I'd like to filter my mails with pine, as one can do with netscape (by
> moving some kinds of mails to specific folders).
> Any ideas ? Thanks.
> 
>                 GG
Note :
        my pine : 3.95a 
        In the [S]etup menu there is no [R]ule (which would lead to [F]ilter)

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From: Jason Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: gtop shows processes that aren't there?
Date: 13 Nov 2000 20:05:48 GMT

gtop shows acroread is taking up 54mb, yet ps -aux shows there's no
acrobat reader running...

this is confusing.  which is correct?

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From: "Niwr�" <�@�.�>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Installing Linux
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 19:53:53 GMT


"Etienne Laurin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in bericht
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Greetings,
>
> I would like to install Linux (Mandrake Linux 7.2 to be exact) on my
> hard drive which is partitioned in multiple 2Gb partitions and
> considering that it would be installed on the third partition (an
> extended partition I think), it would be passed the 1024e cylinder. I
> would like to know if it is possible to install (and boot) Linux passed
> the 1024e cylinder. If it is not possible to boot Linux from "so far",
> could I still install it on that partition and boot from a floppy disk
> to bypass the 1024e cylinder problem. And if I boot from a floppy disk
> every time I wish to boot in Linux, I would like some to confirm me that
> it wouldn't change anything if I do a fdisk /mbr to boot my Windows
> without having to go through LILO every time I boot my computer.
>
> Thank you.
>
My Suse Linux is installed beyond 15 GB and I boot it with loadlin, an
alternative linuxloader. By editing the msdos- autoexec.bat and config.sys I
get a bootmenu with Windows98 and Linux.

Niwr�.



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From: Greg Engel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Memory leak?
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 14:56:16 -0500

k wrote:

> have you tried using a _stable_ kernel?
>

This bothered me too, but our network makes heavy use of autofs, and that
seems to be much better under the 2.4 kernel than the 2.216+ (especially
when home dirs are automounted).

I do recognize that it's poor form to whine about problems with development
software.  If it's a kernel bug, I'll be quiet.  What concerns me more is
if it isn't!

-Greg




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From: Greg Engel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Memory leak?
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 14:54:04 -0500

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>On a per process basis, gtop will show memory usage.

gtop shows the total size of all resident processes to be about 113MB (that's
reasonable), but top still shows 227 MB used, 13MB buffered, 28MB free and 133MB
cached.

Am I being silly here?  Do these numbers make sense?  Another person emailed me
and talked a bit about the cached memory.    If what I'm seeing is normal
behavior, I apologize for the waste of bandwidth.  Again, I'd appreciate your
insight.

-Greg


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From: Greg Engel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Memory leak?
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 14:58:55 -0500

Andreas K�h�ri wrote:

> Is this a real memory leak or are you viewing "buffered" and "cached"
> memory as "unavailable"?

top shows the following:

>  2:56pm  up 23:18,  5 users,  load average: 0.10, 0.05, 0.15
> 77 processes: 76 sleeping, 1 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped
> CPU0 states:  1.3% user,  1.2% system,  0.0% nice, 96.3% idle
> CPU1 states:  2.0% user,  0.4% system,  0.0% nice, 97.0% idle
> Mem:   255312K av,  227232K used,   28080K free,       0K shrd,   13920K
> buff
> Swap:  248996K av,      12K used,  248984K free                  133448K
> cached

It's the "Mem used" section that was bothering me as it steadily grows from
72MB up to this 230MB value that you see here.   Perhaps I'm just watching
my cache fill up?

-Greg


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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Need to run fsck on the / partition and need help
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 12:06:44 -0800

lilo: linux single
bash# fsck /dev/hda8                   # select all the defaults when they show
up.

"Brian E. Parker" wrote:

> Hello,
>
> At my previous job, I had a Redhat 6.2 box set up that handled a small
> amount of mail, ran a few majordomo lists, and did some web serving.  This
> weekend, the people there unpluged the box on accident and it won't boot
> normally because of some errors on /dev/hda8, which just happens to be the /
> partition.
>
> From what they are tlling me over the phone, this is what is happening.
> They turn the machine on, and it gets to LILO: then tries to boot the
> kernal.  It runs the pre-check on /dev/hda8 ( I had him look at the
> /etc/fstab to find out what partition that is, and it's the root / ) and has
> a problem.  From what he says, it takes him to a point where he can type in
> the root password and get to a command-line ( a "pwd" showed /root ) and
> tells him he can run fsck manually or hit ^D to kill the shell.  I get him
> to the command-line with the root password and we tried running fsck with
> different parameters, but it doesn't seem to fix it because after a reboot,
> it takes him right back to the password prompt after giving the same error
> messages when trying to do the initial fsck on /dev/hda8.
>
> What options should I run on fsck to get it to fix the root partition?  If
> this isn't the correct way to approach this problem, what is?
>
> None of the data on this machine is real critical, but it would be nice for
> them to get it back up and running the way it was, because noone there has
> the know-how to reinstall and get majordomo running.
>
> Any help is appreciated.  I'm not on-site where the machine is, so if it
> takes a couple days to get back to any questions you may have, it's because
> I have to call them and talk them through anything you guys suggest.
>
> TIA,
> -BEP


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Memory leak?
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 20:06:25 GMT

On Mon, 13 Nov 2000 14:54:04 -0500, Greg Engel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>>On a per process basis, gtop will show memory usage.
>
>gtop shows the total size of all resident processes to be about 113MB (that's
>reasonable), but top still shows 227 MB used, 13MB buffered, 28MB free and 133MB
>cached.
>
>Am I being silly here?  Do these numbers make sense?  Another person emailed me
>and talked a bit about the cached memory.    If what I'm seeing is normal
>behavior, I apologize for the waste of bandwidth.  Again, I'd appreciate your
>insight.

Switch gtop to show virtual sizes so that the amount of a process that is
swapped out won't mess up the numbers.


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