Linux-Misc Digest #514, Volume #26 Sun, 10 Dec 00 13:13:01 EST
Contents:
Re: simple network question (David Efflandt)
All vt's blank on exit from KDE (David Efflandt)
getopt and Python (Robert Schweikert)
Launching linux without XWin ("Megret")
Launching Linux without XWINDOW ("Megret")
help newbie with recompiling kernel in RedHat 7.0 (Hung Ngoc Lai)
Re: ISDN connection drops (Aulne)
Re: Recommend TEXT (not X) based visual FTP client (Sven Mascheck)
send a fax HylaFAX ("Christian Goebel")
Re: cdrecord and symlinks (Dances With Crows)
Re: The best SQL server (Dances With Crows)
Access like database for Linux (Gregor Horvath)
basic man question ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: basic man question (Jan Schaumann)
Re: cdrecord and symlinks (Timo Benk)
Re: Launching linux without XWin ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Where can I know more about files under /dev? (Timo Benk)
Re: Access like database for Linux (Derek Colley)
ramdisk size (Timo Benk)
Re: How to get user input in a startup script? (Dustin Puryear)
Re: Access like database for Linux (Dustin Puryear)
Re: Splitting WAV-Files automatically (Stefan Bauch)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: simple network question
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 14:21:58 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 10 Dec 2000, controller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>do I have to adjust my routing tables, even if the network I want to set up
>only consists of two workstations (one linux, one freebsd)? or will changes
>in rc.conf and /etc/hosts alone do the trick?
>
>i just want to connect these two machines with each other, there are no
>gateways, nothing, just 2 unix boxes with static addresses (192.168.1.1 and
>2). what is required? the ethernet cards were detetced and configured
>without a problem.
You must have a different Linux than me, because I have only seen rc.conf
in FreeBSD, but typically '/sbin/route -n' would show something like this:
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface
192.168.1.1 * 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 eth0
192.168.1.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0
127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo
Then if you ever want to connect one to the internet, any other LAN boxes
should point to it with a default route like this:
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface
192.168.1.2 * 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 eth0
192.168.1.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0
127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo
default 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0
However, the box directly connected to the internet should not have ANY
default route, except to the internet.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: All vt's blank on exit from KDE
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 14:40:13 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have run across an occasional problem when I exit KDE to the console and
find that ALL of the consoles are totally blank except for the cursor.
In fact in login screens I do not even see the colored ANSI tux logo.
Everything else still works, the cursor moves when I type and I can enter
commands, I just cannot see what I am typing. If I log in from a
differnet box or startx again, everything is fine there.
I tried 'stty sane' and 'setterm -reset' and neither did any good. I was
not aware of the 'reset' command (symlinked to tset) so I have not had a
chance to try that yet. Does that reset all vt's or just the one you are
on?
I am running Mandrake 7.0 with generic kernel 2.2.17 with ancient S3
Trio64 video.
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From: Robert Schweikert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: getopt and Python
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 09:45:26 -0500
Is there a compile time switch used when building Python on Linux to
make getopt behave as if the POSIXLY_CORRECT environment variable was
set? Or is the interpreter setting this environment variable somehow in
its environment?
It seems that if one builds Python a bit different one can get the
following undesired behavior.
"""
script try.py, test the system getopt function.
"""
import sys
print sys.argv
Now running this on Linux (not the interpreter that comes with the
distribution) I can produce the following
python try.py -help
Python: invalid option -- h
usage: Python [-d] [-i] [-s] [-u ] [-v] [-c cmd | file | -] [arg] ...
Options and arguments (and corresponding environment variables):
-d : debug output from parser (also PYTHONDEBUG=x)
-i : inspect interactively after running script (also
PYTHONINSPECT=x)
-s : suppress printing of top level expressions (also
PYTHONSUPPRESS=x)
-u : unbuffered stdout and stderr (also PYTHONUNBUFFERED=x)
-v : verbose (trace import statements) (also PYTHONVERBOSE=x)
-c cmd : program passed in as string (terminates option list)
file : program read from script file
- : program read from stdin (default; interactive mode if a tty)
arg ...: arguments passed to program in sys.argv[1:]
Other environment variables:
PYTHONSTARTUP: file executed on interactive startup (no default)
PYTHONPATH : colon-separated list of directories prefixed to the
default module search path. The result is sys.path.
However, when I leave the dash of I get what I expect:
python try.py help
['try.py', 'help']
Further after setting POSIXLY_CORRECT I also get what I expect:
setenv POSIXLY_CORRECT
python try.py -help
['try.py', '-help']
Thus the question what did I mess up when custom compiling the
interpreter?
Thanks,
Robert
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From: "Megret" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Launching linux without XWin
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 16:00:24 +0100
Hi,
I recently used GIMP (image editor) and since this day I cannot use Linux
Anymore...
After system has loaded, when it tries to launch the XWindow environnement,
my screen stay black and "clac" sounds can be heared from my screen as when
it change the graphical mode.
Maybe GIMP has changed something in my screen configuration or maybe it has
nothing to do with GIMP.
I don't know how i can launch linux without xwindow.
I have tried combinations of keys but i can't find any that works!!
Thank for any help
Arnaud
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From: "Megret" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Launching Linux without XWINDOW
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 16:02:06 +0100
Hi,
I recently used GIMP (image editor) and since this day I cannot use Linux
Anymore...
After system has loaded, when it tries to launch the XWindow environnement,
my screen stay black and "clac" sounds can be heared from my screen as when
it change the graphical mode.
Maybe GIMP has changed something in my screen configuration or maybe it has
nothing to do with GIMP.
I don't know how i can launch linux without xwindow.
I have tried combinations of keys but i can't find any that works!!
Thank for any help
Arnaud
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From: Hung Ngoc Lai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: help newbie with recompiling kernel in RedHat 7.0
Date: 10 Dec 2000 15:08:24 GMT
I have been getting an error during the make bzImage
stage.
I search around and found out that I need to modify
the
Makefile in /usr/src/linux directory and change the
gcc to kgcc.
However, even after I did that, I still get error from
the make bzImage. Can you tell me what else I need
to modify?
If possible, please send me a copy of the Makefile
with all the necessary
changes so that I can make minework.
Many thanks
.
David
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From: Aulne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ISDN connection drops
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 15:24:47 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Aulne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Just installed Mandrake 7.2, KDE 2.0. The ISDN connection drops after a
> >short timeout. I have to maintain a ping at 30 seconds to keep the line up.
> >There must be a config file somewhere that controls this. Any suggestions ?
> You can read the documentation for pppd.
Thanks for the suggestion. Really. If I wouldn't want to learn something I
would stick with Windows. I oftentimes forget that there is a huge amount of
docs right there on the machine.
> However, setup time with ISDN should be extremely short, and
> hence allowing it to time out when not in use should not even be
> noticable. 30 seconds is a bit short, but as little as a couple
> of minutes might not be.
Yes, it is incredibly short. Almost as soon as I press on the button to
connect the connection is made. But why should there be a idle timeout delay
with ISDN? If this is the only way to go, then there must be a way for the
system to recognize every application that tries to get on the internet.
About this, though I have no hint at the moment where to look for
documentation and config files.
Alain
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From: Sven Mascheck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Recommend TEXT (not X) based visual FTP client
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.misc
Date: 10 Dec 2000 16:41:10 +0100
>> I need a text (not X) based visual FTP client, something like Midnight
>> Commander but stripped down
> 'wget' or 'ftp'?
One might prefer an ftp with a readline-like CLI - editing/completion:
ncftp(1) <URL:http://www.ncftp.com/download/>
f'up ltd. c.u.m
Sven
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From: "Christian Goebel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: send a fax HylaFAX
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 16:45:06 +0100
Hello!
I have installed HylaFAX on SuSE 6.4. configured with my US-Robotics 33.6
Faxmodem without a problem, it seems lik this...
Now I will sen da fax with the sendfax at command and i receive a message
like this "request id is 1 (gtoup id 1) for host localhost"
What is the next step to really send the fax??? Or exist there an other
problem?
Thank you for help
Christian
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: cdrecord and symlinks
Date: 10 Dec 2000 15:49:54 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 10 Dec 2000 13:25:52 GMT, Timo Benk staggered into the Black Sun and said:
>Is it possible to make a cd image with symlinks and attributes like an
>ext2fs.
Check the man page for "mkisofs" and look at the -R and -r options. The
Rock Ridge extensions allow smylinks, ownership, permissions, long
filenames, and more than 8 levels of subdirectories. Symlinks could be
useful; file ownership and any permission mode other than 555 are
usually more trouble than they're worth. You can actually burn an ext2
filesystem onto a CD, but only a Linux box will be able to read it then.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: The best SQL server
Date: 10 Dec 2000 15:49:55 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 10 Dec 2000 05:37:18 GMT, WME staggered into the Black Sun and said:
>Is MySQL better or Postgres? and why?
>I've played with Postgres a bit.
Define "better" first. MySQL is optimized for the case where most
queries are just SELECTing and not UPDATE or INSERTing. MySQL is
supposed to be faster in general than other database engines, but that
may not be as true as it was. Postgres has transactions, which are beta
in MySQL. There was an article on Slashdot recently that discussed the
question of whether Postgres or MySQL was better, and it generated a
whole lot of flamage.
Bottom line is, do a bit of research on both database engines and use
the one that best fits your needs.
http://slashdot.org/articles/00/08/14/2128237.shtml for starters, though
there are probably other places where the s/n is higher.
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Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
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=============================/ I hit a seg fault....
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From: Gregor Horvath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Access like database for Linux
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 16:09:21 GMT
hi,
I am new to Linux and looking for a Access like Database / Reporting
Tool f=FCr Linux.
Since I have several small access single user databases currently in use
in Windows, I would like to migrate them to Linux. Therefore a migrating
tool would be appreciated.
Any suggestions?
Greg
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: basic man question
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 15:56:20 GMT
how do you create a man page from a text file?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jan Schaumann)
Subject: Re: basic man question
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 16:25:00 GMT
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> how do you create a man page from a text file?
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Man-Page.html
might be of help.
-Jan
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"So.. humans have easily injured knees. My race will find this
information very useful indeed. Mwahwahahahaha!" --Morbo
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timo Benk)
Subject: Re: cdrecord and symlinks
Date: 10 Dec 2000 16:25:22 GMT
Hi,
On 10 Dec 2000 15:49:54 GMT, Dances With Crows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 10 Dec 2000 13:25:52 GMT, Timo Benk staggered into the Black Sun and said:
>>Is it possible to make a cd image with symlinks and attributes like an
>>ext2fs.
>
>Check the man page for "mkisofs" and look at the -R and -r options. The
>Rock Ridge extensions allow smylinks, ownership, permissions, long
>filenames, and more than 8 levels of subdirectories. Symlinks could be
>useful; file ownership and any permission mode other than 555 are
>usually more trouble than they're worth. You can actually burn an ext2
>filesystem onto a CD, but only a Linux box will be able to read it then.
RTFM, I know. I skipped the -R when reading through the manpage 'cause
somehow i thought it means recursive. Shame on me :-).
-timo
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Launching linux without XWin
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 17:04:29 GMT
Megret <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't know how i can launch linux without xwindow.
> I have tried combinations of keys but i can't find any that works!!
At the lilo boot prompt, type "linux 3".
This should work with most systems. If you're using grub instead of
lilo, I'm sure this is possible, but I'm not sure how, maybe one of
the grub menu options?
Another possibility is booting graphically until X starts, then using
ctrl-alt-F1 to get to the first virtual console.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timo Benk)
Subject: Re: Where can I know more about files under /dev?
Date: 10 Dec 2000 17:19:03 GMT
Hi,
On Sun, 10 Dec 2000 22:11:03 +0800, Carfield Yim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>As title, I would like to know more about the hardwares of my system.
>Now I only know sdX is my scsi HDD but know nothing about other device.
In the kernel source tree:
Documentation/devices.txt
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From: Derek Colley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Access like database for Linux
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 17:43:11 +0000
Gregor Horvath wrote:
> hi,
>
> I am new to Linux and looking for a Access like Database / Reporting
> Tool f�r Linux.
> Since I have several small access single user databases currently in use
> in Windows, I would like to migrate them to Linux. Therefore a migrating
> tool would be appreciated.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Greg
I prefer PostgreSQL, but it seems the most popular database for Linux
newbies is MySQL (I seem to remember there is an Access-to-MySQL utility
that will create the MySQL database for you - haven't tested it).
I haven't come across a front-end similar to MS Access, but for a web-based
front-end, try http://www.greatbridge.org/projects/phppgadmin/
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Derek Colley
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timo Benk)
Subject: ramdisk size
Date: 10 Dec 2000 17:59:01 GMT
Hi
Is it possible to set the size of /dev/ram0 after booting?
-timo
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dustin Puryear)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: How to get user input in a startup script?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 17:59:07 GMT
On Sun, 10 Dec 2000 00:51:08 GMT, Scott M. Navarre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> if [ "$mntreply" = "Y"] || ["$mntreply" = "y" ]; then
> action "Mounting RAID array: " mount /dev/md2 /u
> else
> echo "RAID mount: deferred"
> fi
You need a space before and after your conditional when using the
special "[ condition ]" test construct. In other words, [ a ] is
valid while [a], [ a], and [a ] are all invalid.
Regards, Dustin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dustin Puryear)
Subject: Re: Access like database for Linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 18:03:14 GMT
On Sun, 10 Dec 2000 17:43:11 +0000, Derek Colley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I am new to Linux and looking for a Access like Database / Reporting
>> Tool f�r Linux.
>> Since I have several small access single user databases currently in use
>> in Windows, I would like to migrate them to Linux. Therefore a migrating
>> tool would be appreciated.
>
>I prefer PostgreSQL, but it seems the most popular database for Linux
>newbies is MySQL (I seem to remember there is an Access-to-MySQL utility
>that will create the MySQL database for you - haven't tested it).
>I haven't come across a front-end similar to MS Access, but for a web-based
>front-end, try http://www.greatbridge.org/projects/phppgadmin/
Derek is right as far as I know. MySQL and PostgreSQL are both DBMS, whereas
Access is both a DBMS (cough!) and a reporting tool all rolled into one. I
*think* that StarOffice now comes with something similar to Access, although
I haven't seen it firsthand.
I doubt you will be able to just move the Access database from Windows to Linux
since Access uses VB for Access and so has a language all it's own when writing
applications.
Regards, Dustin
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From: Stefan Bauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Splitting WAV-Files automatically
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 19:05:15 +0100
Hi,
thank you for the answer, I downloaded and compiled it now. Looks very
good, just the thing I needed and never found.
Thank you very much,
Stefan
PoD schrieb:
> Stefan Bauch wrote:
> > I was wondering if there is a tool to cut WAV-Files at breaks
> > automatically,
> > so that I can record a complete LP or audio-cassette and then splitt it
> > up
> > without recording each single track (for conversion to MP3's...)
>
> you could try gramofile http://panic.et.tudelft.nl/~costar/gramofile/
> I haven't tried it but it looks cool.
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