Linux-Misc Digest #535, Volume #26 Tue, 12 Dec 00 22:13:01 EST
Contents:
Re: Corel Linux VS Redhat 7 (Michel Catudal)
Re: Linux freeze (Michel Catudal)
Re: /etc/exports (Jim Broughton)
Re: Kernel sees only part of memory (E J)
Re: /etc/exports ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: lost file on erased partition (alex k)
Can I remove KDE, and keep Gnome?
Re: What is the difference? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux freeze ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: cdrecord and symlinks (Dances With Crows)
Re: cdrecord needs ROOT permission (Dances With Crows)
Re: kernel questions (Dances With Crows)
Re: Can't set video refresh! (Dances With Crows)
Re: kernel questions ("lobotomy")
Re: Can I remove KDE, and keep Gnome? (Jim McIntyre)
Re: Can I remove KDE, and keep Gnome? ("lobotomy")
Linux system ("Cal")
Re: What is the difference? (jeff)
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Corel Linux VS Redhat 7
Date: 12 Dec 2000 19:21:09 -0600
William Pelish a �crit :
>
> No partion, Lone OS
>
There shouldn't be much of a problem then. Corel's problem is that much like winblows
it seems
to want to be the only OS on the PC.
--
Tired of Microsoft's rebootive multitasking?
then it's time to upgrade to Linux.
http://www.netonecom.net/~bbcat for all kinds of links and info
http://www.geocities.com/seinsiboire and
http://members.nbci.com/bbcat_rpm for SuSE 7.0 Linux RPM packages
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux freeze
Date: 12 Dec 2000 19:32:09 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a �crit :
>
> you have at
> least consoles 1 to 4 ( F1 to F4 ) in text mode,
wrong!
ctrl alt F1 to ctrl alt F6
>From text mode you type alt F7 to go back to GUI
alt Fx switches to another console.
--
Tired of Microsoft's rebootive multitasking?
then it's time to upgrade to Linux.
http://www.netonecom.net/~bbcat for all kinds of links and info
http://www.geocities.com/seinsiboire and
http://members.nbci.com/bbcat_rpm for SuSE 7.0 Linux RPM packages
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From: Jim Broughton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: /etc/exports
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 01:49:00 GMT
Leonard Evens wrote:
>
>
> Under RedHat 6.X and earlier there is no exportfs. It does appear
> to exist under RedHat 7.0.
>
> --
>
> Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
> Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
exportfs does indeed exist under RH 6.1 I know I have it
running my internet server box. NFS is not installed
by default. You have to add those packages manualy.
--
Jim Broughton
(The Amiga OS! Now there was an OS)
If Sense were common everyone would have it!
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Kernel sees only part of memory
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 01:52:43 GMT
I checked the kernel and I can't find an option to get linux to recognize more
than 64MB.
$ su -
password: <secret>
# cd /usr/src/linux
# make xconfig # I don't see such an option to recognize how much memory you
have.
If you are not using LILO, you must be a GRUB(BY) person :)
If you are using GRUB
Pass a mem= option to your Linux kernel, like this:
grub> kernel /vmlinuz mem=128M
Ming He wrote:
> What if I'm not using LILO, I can get linux to recognize more than 64MB by
> recompiling kernel?
>
> /ming
>
> E J wrote:
>
> > Exchange your memory and get linux compatible memory. Just kidding :)
> >
> > put append="mem=256M" in your /etc/lilo.conf and execute lilo.
> >
> > $ su -
> > password: <secret>
> > # cp /etc/lilo.conf /etc/lilo.conf.bak # just in case you screw up.
> > # vi /etc/lilo.conf # use your editor to modify lilo.conf
> >
> > # this is an example of lilo.conf
> > boot=/dev/hda3
> > map=/boot/map
> > install=/boot/boot.b
> > prompt
> > timeout=50
> > message=/boot/message
> > linear
> > default=dos
> >
> > image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.16-22
> > label=linux
> > read-only
> > # here is the append line to add
> > append="mem=256M"
> > root=/dev/hda4
> >
> > other=/dev/hda1
> > label=dos
> >
> > # /sbin/lilo
> > # reboot # cross your fingers and 256M will be used.
> >
> > Peter Linde wrote:
> >
> > > Dear all,
> > >
> > > I am running RH Linux 7.0 on an HP Kayak, which has
> > > 2x733 Mhz processors and 256 Mb of memory. I also run Windows 2000
> > > from a separate disk. While booting Linux, the kernel reports and uses
> > > only 64 Mb of
> > > memory. Under Windows the entire memory is seen and used.
> > >
> > > Any hints?
> > >
> > > Peter Linde
> > > Lund Observatory
> > > Sweden
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: /etc/exports
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 01:16:08 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Under RedHat 6.X and earlier there is no exportfs. It does appear
> to exist under RedHat 7.0.
I know it did not exist in RH 5.x, but I'm fairly sure that it
appeared by 6.2, as I recently set several RH 6.2 machines up and did
a lot of tinkering with NFS. I *think* I would have been irritated
enough to have located it, compiled it and added it to the image I'm
developing for distribution at work.
I'll try to check at work tomorrow, I use Mandrake 7.1 here at
home. It definitely has exportfs.
--
Jim Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
=================== http://www.buchanan1.net/ ==========================
"Trying to learn to hack on a DOS or Windows machine or under MacOS is
like trying to learn to dance while wearing a body cast." -Eric Raymond
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From: alex k <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: lost file on erased partition
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 02:17:48 GMT
wohoo!!
partitions miraculously recovered.
a big thanks to svend olaf! :)
/ alex k
--
.
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Can I remove KDE, and keep Gnome?
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 02:30:11 -0000
I have Redhat 6.2 installed on my system, and I would like to remove KDE,
and use only Gnome. Is there a way I can do this without reinstalling the
entire OS.
--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: What is the difference?
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 02:33:41 GMT
John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Harlan Grove writes:
> > Some of the major companies are Red Hat, SuSE, Caldera, Debian,
> > Slackware, Mandrake, Corel,...
>
> Debian is not a company.
Sure it is. It is a "sizable company of developers."
Possibly it's even bigger than a "company;" perhaps even a "brigade".
:-)
Now _corporation_; that's quite another word...
--
(concatenate 'string "cbbrowne" "@hex.net") <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/>
Real Programmers are surprised when the odometers in their cars don't
turn from 99999 to A0000.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux freeze
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 01:37:33 GMT
dixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Dec 2000 15:07:22 GMT, "korner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>As shocking as the title may be, it just happened to me. I was surfing the
>>internet using netscape 4.7?, and suddenly everything freezed and I had to
>>hard-reboot the computer to regain control. The mouse pointer was moving,
>>but except that, the system didn't respond to anything.
I've seen this. Way too many times, also under HPUX and Solaris.
I've solved it in several ways.
On Linux, ctrl-alt-F1 to get to a virtual console, then use ps to find
the PID of netscape:
jbuchana@zaphod$ ps -auxw | grep [l]inux
jbuchana 6306 1.9 8.1 29276 21272 ? S 19:18 1:14
/usr/i386-glibc20-linux/lib/ld-linux.so.2 --library-path /usr/i386-gl
For some reason, recent versions of Netscape on Linux display this
line with ps instead of the expected "netscape".
Kill it like this:
jbuchana@zaphod$ kill -9 6306
jbuchana@zaphod$ rm ~/.netscape/lock
jbuchana@zaphod$
The '-9' might not be needed, but is more certain. It does not allow
the program to clean up after itself as it dies. Newer versions of
Netscape seem to be able to clean up old lock files on their own, but
just in case.
On Linux, you can also do:
jbuchana@zaphod$ killall -9 /usr/i386-glibc20-linux/lib/ld-linux.so.2
jbuchana@zaphod$
On Solaris and HPUX, it's similar, but use "ps -ef", the process is
really called "netscape", and there are no virtual consoles, so you
have to log in over the network.
> You may have better luck running a different browser. Although Opera
> (http://www.opera.com) is still in beta, it's reported to be very good
> quality.
I've been trying the latest Opera beta. I like it, but it seems a bit
less stable than Netscape 4.73 for Linux. It crashes and freezes more
often, and sometimes pokes X in a way that causes it to almost freeze
up the display. You can get the cursor to move and the keyboard to
respond, but it's easier to kill opera in the way I described for
Netscape above.
I do intend to let the opera people know about this, but I'd feel
better if I could point to one site to demonstrate the problem, but no
real luck there, beyond noticing that complex sites are more likely to
cause problems.
Opera will display some sites that Netscape 4.x for Linux will
not. One that is slow and unpredictable in netscape is
http://www.theindychannel.com/, an Indianapolis TV station. Opera has
no trouble, Netscape for Linux often shows a blank blue page under the
navigation stuff at the top. Sometimes if you wait, the content
appears. Opera displays it easily. But it is one of the sites that
sometimes makes Opera use lots of X resources. But not every time.
--
Jim Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
=================== http://www.buchanan1.net/ ==========================
And all should cry, Beware! Beware! His flashing eyes, his floating hair!
Weave a circle round him thrice, And close your eyes with holy dread,
For he on honey-dew hath fed, And drunk the milk of Paradise.
-Coleridge
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: cdrecord and symlinks
Date: 13 Dec 2000 02:40:41 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 12 Dec 2000 15:52:44 -0500, Ming He staggered into the Black
Sun and said:
>I was trying to install "cdrecord - mkisofs" RPM on redhat 6.2.
>I received this message:
>depending on ld.so.1 is not available.
>I have /lib/ld.so. So is ld.so.1 a symbolic link to /lib/ld.so?
That doesn't make much sense. Is this a really old "cdrecord" RPM?
ld.so.1 is, IIRC, for binaries which use the obsolete libc5. Recent
RedHat installs should provide ld.so.1 and libc5 for backwards
combatability if nothing else, but the cdrecord+mkisofs combo I have
here depends on ld-linux.so.2. This has been true for as long as I have
been using cdrecord (13 months now.)
Get a more recent cdrecord RPM, failing that, get the source and compile
it yourself. It's a quick compile, not like Xfree86 4.01 or anything.
HTH,
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: cdrecord needs ROOT permission
Date: 13 Dec 2000 02:40:43 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 12 Dec 2000 19:28:08 GMT, Kevin E Cosgrove staggered into
the Black Sun and said:
>I've previously had success with X-CD-Roast 0.96e and cdrecord 1.6.1 on
>Redhat 5.1. Now I'm trying to use the same X-CD-Roast with cdrecord
>1.8.1 on Mandrake 7.02. I get these errors unless I set the SUID bit
>on cdrecord, which is owned by root:
>
>So, what's the RIGHT solution to this problem? SUID is potentially bad
>for security reasons. Certainly nice() needs to be root. When burning
>a CD I can see the need to increase the process priority to keep the
>FIFO full. So, maybe root permissions are justified. Is there a more
>secure way to implement root permissions than the SUID bit?
(add group "cdburners" to your /etc/groups)
(add yourself and other trusted users to this group)
chown root.cdburners `which cdrecord`
chmod 4710 `which cdrecord`
Or "man sudo sudoers visudo" and invoke cdrecord with "sudo cdrecord
...". TMTOWTDI, naturally. The groups way is more transparent to the
end-user. HTH,
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: kernel questions
Date: 13 Dec 2000 02:40:45 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[NGs trimmed]
Why in the seven hells did you post to so many groups? Don't do that!
It annoys people considerably, and your post was blatantly offtopic in
several of those groups you posted to.
On Tue, 12 Dec 2000 20:05:10 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] staggered into the
Black Sun and said:
>What is a backport?
Code ported from the development kernel (2.4.0-test12 atm) to the stable
kernel (2.2.18 atm). For a long time, USB and NFSv3 support were only
available as backports if you wanted to use the 2.2 series.
>What patch goes with what kernel? i.e. Does patch-2.2.18 update kernel
>2.2.17 or 2.2.18?
Patch 2.2.18.gz will change your 2.2.17 kernel source tree into a 2.2.18
kernel source tree.
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/ I hit a seg fault....
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Can't set video refresh!
Date: 13 Dec 2000 02:40:44 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 12 Dec 2000 09:08:57 -0600, Phil R Lawrence staggered into
the Black Sun and said:
>"David Efflandt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Phil R Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>I must have a loadstone under my cubicle, because 85Hz refresh rate
>>>flickers horribly. Fortunately I have a Gateway vx700 monitor, which
>>>(along with my ATI card) does 100Hz @ 1024x768.
>>>How can I force this thing to do 100Hz @ 1024x768?
>
>> Here's a thought. We had a 17" CTX monitor at work that I thought
>> was defective because it was flickering. When I was going to take it
>> in to exchange it, I removed the digital clock that was sitting on
>> top of it and the flicker suddenly stopped. See if you have anything
>> with a transformer anywhere near or under your monitor.
>Good thought, but I have tried it in different cubicles, etc. It's the
>office itself. I do need the 100Hz I enjoy in Windows.
>Any idea on how you achieved the higher rate?
Here's a thought: Run xf86config/XF86Setup/whatever and adjust the
Hsync and Vsync ranges upward by just a little bit. Repeat until you're
getting 100Hz. You *may* be able to adjust the ranges in larger
increments; many modern monitors will just display "Frequency out of
range" if you try to overdrive them, instead of trashing themselves.
Make sure you've put in the actual Hsync and Vsync ranges the monitor is
capable of doing--relying on preconfigured defaults like "Monitor that
can do 1024x768 at 85Hz" will not give you optimal quality here.
(Hmmph. You want eyestrain? Try reading 80-column text on a 9"
greenscreen Apple display from 1984.)
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
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From: "lobotomy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kernel questions
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux.slackware,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.dev.kernel
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 02:42:01 GMT
patch-2.2.18 upgrades 2.2.17 to 2.2.18.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have a couple of questions.
>
> What is a backport?
>
> What patch goes with what kernel? i.e. Does patch-2.2.18 update kernel
> 2.2.17 or 2.2.18?
>
> best regards, charles
--
PC Chips actually goes by many names. PCChips = Ability = Alton = Amptron =
Aristo = Asia Gate = Asiatech = Assa = Atrend = Elpina = Eurone = Fugu =
Fugutech = Hi Sing = Houston = Hsing Tech = H Tech = Matsonic = Minstaple =
PCWare = Pine = Protac = QDI = Warpspeed
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From: Jim McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can I remove KDE, and keep Gnome?
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 02:43:54 GMT
Try
rpm -q kde | lpr
this will give you a list of all the kde-related programs on your system.
Then, run
rpm -e <package-name> to remove each package realted to kde
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have Redhat 6.2 installed on my system, and I would like to remove KDE,
> and use only Gnome. Is there a way I can do this without reinstalling the
> entire OS.
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
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From: "lobotomy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can I remove KDE, and keep Gnome?
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 02:45:20 GMT
Since Redhat is RPM-based, you can just run as root RPM -e (package name)
for each KDE package and this will remove the packages. Or you can use
something like gnorpm, which will display graphically all the packages
you have installed, to find them and uninstall them.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have Redhat 6.2 installed on my system, and I would like to remove
> KDE, and use only Gnome. Is there a way I can do this without
> reinstalling the
> entire OS.
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com http://www.help.com/
--
PC Chips actually goes by many names. PCChips = Ability = Alton = Amptron =
Aristo = Asia Gate = Asiatech = Assa = Atrend = Elpina = Eurone = Fugu =
Fugutech = Hi Sing = Houston = Hsing Tech = H Tech = Matsonic = Minstaple =
PCWare = Pine = Protac = QDI = Warpspeed
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Reply-To: "Cal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Cal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux system
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 02:47:53 GMT
I've installed Linux on my own PC before. It worked - sort of. My Epson
printer didn't work, so I got another one that I also couldn't get to work.
My scanner was hopeless. The mouse only sort of worked (the wheel didn't
work). But I loved the stability of Linux, and I like using it. So, what I
want to do is get a whole system that all fits together and works. Does
anyone know a source for integrated, functioning, all-set-up systems with
Linux loaded, tested and operating with monitor, graphics/video card, lan
card, printer, scanner, mouse, sound card, and variable speed windshield
wipers? Like Dell, but Linux?
Thanks.
// Cal
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jeff)
Subject: Re: What is the difference?
Date: 13 Dec 2000 02:48:33 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 12 Dec 2000 14:53:20 +0000,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Keith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> > What is the difference between Publishers, Standard, and Professinal Edition
> > of Linux?
>
> I have noooo idea what you're on about.
> There is no "publishers", "standard" or "professional" edition of linux.
>
> There may be for different distros, but as you mentioned no distribution,
> the question is meaningless.
On the off-chance that the questioner was looking for a _useful_ answer...
In general...
A publisher's edition is a scaled-back single CD-ROM version of a
distribution packaged by a publisher to be included with a book.
A standard version may or may not be more comprehensive than a publisher's
release, but is usually available through the creator of the distribution,
often in a shrink-wrapped package, often for a charge, and often including
some sort of support.
A professional version is usually a more comprehensive, more complete, and
more expensive version of a distribution, often including additional support
options.
But... since each Linux distribution has lots of options and relative
freedom when it comes to assembling its distributions, the above definitions
are general, and may be different for some distributions, and may not even
apply to some others.
-jeff
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