Linux-Misc Digest #698, Volume #26                Wed, 3 Jan 01 13:13:03 EST

Contents:
  Re: DVD software for Linux yet? (Roger Blake)
  qmail, popmail and webmail ("Rick Goh")
  Re: How to change screen size in RH6.2 (KDE)?? (Heinz Rawe)
  Re: 2gig filesize limit :( (Robert Heller)
  Re: slackware.com down for a week? (Art Haas)
  Linux Gripes... ("HMS")
  kernel compile confusion (J. Roe)
  Re: How to change screen size in RH6.2 (KDE)?? ("Gene Heskett")
  Re: DVD software for Linux yet? (Grant Edwards)
  Re: DVD software for Linux yet? (Grant Edwards)
  Re: lean kernels run faster, right? (Grant Edwards)
  Re: Linux Gripes... ("HMS")
  Portsentry 1.0 (Bosco Tsang)
  copy, cut ,paste between netscape and other programs (root)
  Re: Sex Paradise is FREE !!!!!  1 (hamooodb)
  Re: StartOffice on RH 7.0 (David)
  Re: kernel compile confusion (David)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roger Blake)
Subject: Re: DVD software for Linux yet?
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 15:15:51 GMT

On Wed, 03 Jan 2001 03:32:53 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>A) The most comfortable chair in my apartment is in front of my computer

Sounds like a case of skewed priorities...

>B) The image quality of VHS isn't even comparable to DVD.  The DPI of my

I guess it's fine if you like jaggies, pixelization, and other digital
artifacts. As far as I am concerned, all digital media formats are
garbage.

VHS is good enough, though Beta is much better. There is no need for
DVD. (Hell, if it was about *quality* we'd all be using ED-Beta.) DVD
is just another format switch designed to bilk consumers out of their
hard-earned dollars. I'll never buy into it. (Like I said, I don't
even have a CD player.)

>C) I have TV-out for my All-in-Wonder (sort of works under Linux,

Whatever.  The idea of using a computer for video is ludicrous
in my view. I'm quite happy with a VT100 interface to mine.

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From: "Rick Goh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: qmail, popmail and webmail
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 23:24:42 +0800

Which popmail and webmail server are you using?
Why?

Regards.




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From: Heinz Rawe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: How to change screen size in RH6.2 (KDE)??
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 13:14:44 +0000

> > try CTRL + ALT + [Plus sign / minus sign] on the
> >numeric keypad.hope this helps.Rupesh

Hi Bo,

only the 800x600 screen is defined in /etc/X11/XF86Config?
Look at section "Screen" for Modes. I don`t how to edit this file direct
in a secure way (hmm, my English isn`t the best :-( ), use
/usr/bin/X11/Xconfigurator instead. It`s a console-program that works
very fine. Select multiple modes and CRTL+ALT+[+|-](numeric keypad!)
will work.
The first mode in a line is the default setting.

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Heinz

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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2gig filesize limit :(
Date: 3 Jan 2001 09:36:06 true

  [EMAIL PROTECTED],
  In a message on Tue, 02 Jan 2001 14:14:35 GMT, wrote :

t> Hello,
t> 
t>  We are using VAlinux 6.2.1 and I have noticed that for some strange
t> reason, we cannot create files larger than 2gig (Several of our website
t> logs exceeds 2gig per month) and I was wondering if anyone could shed
t> any light on what configuration would control the file size limit?
t> 
t> Thanks in advance,

With current stable releases of Linux on the 32-bit Intel chips (x86),
2gig is the limit.

Current stable relase on 64-bit machines (Alphas for example) don't have
this problem.

I believe that up coming releases for the 32-bit Intel chips (x86), the
2gig file size limit is removed.  I believe it is a combination of libc
code and possible parts of the Ext2 fs code (I am not sure).

Are you not rotating your webserver logs weekly?  If they still exceed
2gig / week, maybe you need to have logrotate the logs more often.  I
believe that logrotate can be set up to rotate logs at any selected
interval and keep any number of log file iterations.  'man logrotate'
for details. 

t> 
t>  - Trevor
t> 
t> 
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From: Art Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: slackware.com down for a week?
Date: 03 Jan 2001 10:42:13 -0600

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Post) writes:

> On Tue, 2 Jan 2001 21:47:04 -0500, "Nick Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >Does anyone know what happened to slackware.com? It has been down for over a
> >week! This really worries me, as a very appreciative slackware user.
> 
> The site was defaced by some bozo, while the project team was off for the
> holidays.  Now that they're back, they want to perform a good analysis of
> the intrusion so that they can hopefully avoid having it repeated.  Once
> that is done, they're going to bring the web site back up.  In the meantime,
> the ftp server, ftp://ftp.slackware.com, and the various mirrors are all
> available, and other work on the project is continuing.
> 

There is a brief story about this on the daily page of Linux Weekly
news.

http://lwn.net/daily/

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From: "HMS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux Gripes...
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 10:46:01 -0500

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...

Man I just don't know what you all see in this OS. I want to believe. I like
the idea of open source. Linux is just so much work for so little joy. This
OS is just plain slow, bloated and buggy. All these damn config files are
scattered all over the place with no set format of any kind. There is no
decent help files and if there are you can't search any of them. Programs
take forever to load and when they do they mostly crash. I try to download
stuff and every tar file I get won't expand. I would like to spend my day
writing code, but there are no decent IDE for writing C. What do people use?
It sounds like people use GCC and EMACS. I am just not a glutton for
punishment. I am trying to setup the Boreland J Builder, but of course when
I tar -x the download it just hangs. The jre plugin causes Mozilla not to
load. God this is frustrating. I am using RedHat 7 which is much better than
6.x at least the GNOME is much better. I do like RPM. This is pretty cool
and actually much easier to use than the new windows isntaller which has
similar support for dependencies and versioning.

I heard this thing was lean, fast and stable. I just have not found this to
be the case. Windows 2K runs faster and is more reliable and has usable
apps. I haven't rebooted my windows box in months with writing and debugging
c code on it all day.

Am I doing something wrong? I thought my windows box was supposed to crash
all the time and Linux was supposed to run on less hardware and never crash.

What's the deal. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.




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From: J. Roe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: kernel compile confusion
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 15:43:57 GMT

Hi,
I'm having some problems with a kernel compile.  First a brief
background: I upgraded my system from RH6.2 to RH7.0 and I got a new
kernel (2.2.16) when I reboot with the new upgrade my sound module isn't
being recognized (ALSA).  So I tried to recompile the 2.2.16 kernel
fixing the sound issues.  The recompile fails in make bzImage.  So I
then downloaded and compiled 2.2.18 kernel.  Thing is, I'm having weird
things happen now and I think it's due to missing headers.  When I run
make modules; make modules_install the System.map sym link is being
rewritten from the 2.2.18 System.map back to the 2.2.16 System.map.

lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           20 Jan  3 10:25 System.map ->
System.map-2.2.16-22
-rw-r--r--    1 root     root       200285 Aug 22 16:56
System.map-2.2.16-22
-rw-rw-r--    1 root     root       203905 Jan  2 22:30
System.map-2.2.18


Also I notice in /boot there is no kernel.h for 2.2.18:

lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           15 Jan  2 11:53 kernel.h ->
kernel.h-2.2.16
-rw-r--r--    1 root     root          405 Jan  2 12:08 kernel.h-2.2.16
-rw-r--r--    1 root     root            0 Aug 25 08:43
kernel.h-2.4.0


as well as module info:

lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           21 Jan  2 11:52 module-info ->
module-info-2.2.16-22
-rw-r--r--    1 root     root        11773 Aug 22 16:56
module-info-2.2.16-22

My question is how do I fix these confilcts?  How do I get a
kernel.h-2.2.18 and how do I get a module-info-2.2.18?

And will obtaining this solve my problems?

Thanks in advance

--
Janine Roe
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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the less i know, the more i want to look around...


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Date: 3 Jan 2001 10:0:50 -0500
From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to change screen size in RH6.2 (KDE)??
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help

Gene Heskett sends Greetings to Bo Berglund;

>On Wed, 03 Jan 2001 09:31:09 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>> try CTRL + ALT + [Plus sign / minus sign] on the
>>numeric keypad.hope this helps.Rupesh
>>
>>
>Nothing happens when I do this....

Then you only have one size setup at that screen depth in XF86Config.

Cheers, Gene
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Crossposted-To: alt.video.dvd,alt.video.dvd.software
Subject: Re: DVD software for Linux yet?
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 16:12:02 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Deherrr wrote:
>On Sun, 24 Dec 2000 19:17:48 GMT, John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>What Compaq et al actually did was "clean-roomed" it.
>
>They reverse-engineered it!  

Did not.  They had complete schematics and source listings.
They didn't need to reverse-engineer anything.  All they had to
do was write a functional spec and then impliment it using
personell who had never seen the info from IBM.

>The technique of deniability is called
>"clean-roomed".  One (non-compaq employee)/contractor looks at the
>actual code from a dump of the BIOS and writes up a paper describing
>it in detail, but without actual code references.  He then gives that
>to another (non-compaq employee)/contractor to write a BIOS that does
>the same thing.  Compaq of course has hired both these people so they
>can deny having touched the actual code.  The knowledge has passed
>through a clean room of deniability.

What you describe is not reverse-engineering.

-- 
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                                  at               "GREAT HEAD-ON TRAIN
                               visi.com            COLLISIONS of the 50's"
                                                   by mistake!!!

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: DVD software for Linux yet?
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 16:18:46 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Roger Blake wrote:

>I'm perfectly happy with the excellent quality of Beta and LaserDisk,
>and VHS, while not great, is acceptable. I see no reason for yet
>another video format, and as I said the idea of sitting in front of
>a computer to watch movies seems ludicrous in the extreme. Then
>again, whatever floats your boat.

You sit in front of computers to watch movies now. They're not
general purpose computers, but I'd bet your TV/laserdisc/beta
systems have plenty of computing power.

>>It's also damned inconvient to lug a TV/VCR onto a plane...
>
>That's why they have those things, oh what do they call them,
>in-flight movies...

Don't know what planes you fly on, but the ones I fly on show
really awful movies on screens that you can barely see with
audio quality barely exceeding that achieved with two tomato
cans and and a piece of string.

-- 
Grant Edwards                   grante             Yow!  My NOSE is NUMB!
                                  at               
                               visi.com            

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: lean kernels run faster, right?
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 16:36:21 GMT

In article <92ekdm$fjf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bill Unruh wrote:
>In <92ee6d$gnn$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Phlip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>]I have an antique Acer Extensa 366D, tuned for Windows 95. It has a 167MHz
>]Pentium MMX processor & 32M of RAM.
>
>Get more memory . Your kernel will only make a marginal
>difference. Get more memory. 32K is NOT enough for X, never
>mind Gnome. Memory is cheap. about $20 for another 32M.

More memory is always a good thing. While 32K is indeed
insufficient for X11, 32M is plenty for X as long as you aren't
trying to run huge apps like Netscape.  Use a lean window
manager like fvwm, and it will work nicely.  I regularly use X
on machines with 16M without problems.

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                               visi.com            collection!

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From: "HMS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Gripes...
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 11:36:00 -0500

Wow you guys are good:

All I had to do was write and complain, change a configuration file, and now
I have JRE working with Mozilla, and jbuilder working. Now if I can get my
hands on a decent IDE for C++, I will be in business.

"HMS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:92vhi6$2rl$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...
>
> Man I just don't know what you all see in this OS. I want to believe. I
like
> the idea of open source. Linux is just so much work for so little joy.
This
> OS is just plain slow, bloated and buggy. All these damn config files are
> scattered all over the place with no set format of any kind. There is no
> decent help files and if there are you can't search any of them. Programs
> take forever to load and when they do they mostly crash. I try to download
> stuff and every tar file I get won't expand. I would like to spend my day
> writing code, but there are no decent IDE for writing C. What do people
use?
> It sounds like people use GCC and EMACS. I am just not a glutton for
> punishment. I am trying to setup the Boreland J Builder, but of course
when
> I tar -x the download it just hangs. The jre plugin causes Mozilla not to
> load. God this is frustrating. I am using RedHat 7 which is much better
than
> 6.x at least the GNOME is much better. I do like RPM. This is pretty cool
> and actually much easier to use than the new windows isntaller which has
> similar support for dependencies and versioning.
>
> I heard this thing was lean, fast and stable. I just have not found this
to
> be the case. Windows 2K runs faster and is more reliable and has usable
> apps. I haven't rebooted my windows box in months with writing and
debugging
> c code on it all day.
>
> Am I doing something wrong? I thought my windows box was supposed to crash
> all the time and Linux was supposed to run on less hardware and never
crash.
>
> What's the deal. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
>
>
>



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From: Bosco Tsang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.dcom.modems.cable,redhat.general
Subject: Portsentry 1.0
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 16:27:38 GMT

Have just installed portsentry on my RH 6.2, seems working ok, and the first
alert I picked up is from authorized-scan1.security.home.net! Do they
"authorized" to scan my computer ports???

Just wonder ...how to check what mode I am running? and how to set it?

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> portsentry
>
> Comes installed by default with RH7.0.

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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: copy, cut ,paste between netscape and other programs
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 17:21:42 GMT

why can't i copy,cut and paste between netscape and other linux
applications (e.g. advanced editor). Is there something that can be done
about it.

Thanks piet

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From: hamooodb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: Sex Paradise is FREE !!!!!  1
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 17:30:03 -0000


please send soon!

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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: StartOffice on RH 7.0
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 17:46:21 GMT

"Sudhakar R." wrote:
> 
> I have tried installing the StarOffice .bin using the /net option which I
> downloaded from sun.com
> 
> Firstly, the /net option does not seem to be recognized by the setup
> program 'coz it does the same even without the /net option.
> 
> Once I have installed staroffice as root in /usr/local/ , I login as a
> user and run soffice..it gives me a message saying that soffice is already
> installed and that i need to deinstall it first and reinstall again. This
> I believe is due the fact that this is the Single user installation.
> 
> Could someone tell me how I can install staroffice in the network
> installation. Essentially I want to install the base staroffice in
> /usr/local and each user should have his custom files in his home
> directory.
> 
> Any help will be appreciated.
> -sudhakar

First un-install it.

Then as "root or "su" to root and install it by following these steps.
  
chown 0.0 so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin
# this makes it owned by root
  
chmod 755 so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin 
# make it executable
  
"cd" into the directory where the file is and run:
  
./so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin/net
  
Install it where ever you want it, I will use "/usr/local/office52" for
example purposes. Once you have it installed you may need to change the
path to where you installed it in the next step.
  
Make a symlink so normal users can use it.
  
ln -s /usr/local/office52/program/soffice /usr/bin/soffice
  
The only thing left is to login as a user and run.
  
soffice
  
Login as a user and run "soffice" for each user that runs "soffice" for
the first time It will automatically install the user files.

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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kernel compile confusion
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 17:51:35 GMT

"J. Roe" wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I'm having some problems with a kernel compile.  First a brief
> background: I upgraded my system from RH6.2 to RH7.0 and I got a new
> kernel (2.2.16) when I reboot with the new upgrade my sound module isn't
> being recognized (ALSA).  So I tried to recompile the 2.2.16 kernel
> fixing the sound issues.  The recompile fails in make bzImage.  So I
> then downloaded and compiled 2.2.18 kernel.  Thing is, I'm having weird
> things happen now and I think it's due to missing headers.  When I run
> make modules; make modules_install the System.map sym link is being
> rewritten from the 2.2.18 System.map back to the 2.2.16 System.map.
> 
> lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           20 Jan  3 10:25 System.map ->
> System.map-2.2.16-22
> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root       200285 Aug 22 16:56
> System.map-2.2.16-22
> -rw-rw-r--    1 root     root       203905 Jan  2 22:30
> System.map-2.2.18
> 
> Also I notice in /boot there is no kernel.h for 2.2.18:
> 
> lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           15 Jan  2 11:53 kernel.h ->
> kernel.h-2.2.16
> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root          405 Jan  2 12:08 kernel.h-2.2.16
> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root            0 Aug 25 08:43
> kernel.h-2.4.0
> 
> as well as module info:
> 
> lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           21 Jan  2 11:52 module-info ->
> module-info-2.2.16-22
> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root        11773 Aug 22 16:56
> module-info-2.2.16-22
> 
> My question is how do I fix these confilcts?  How do I get a
> kernel.h-2.2.18 and how do I get a module-info-2.2.18?
> 
> And will obtaining this solve my problems?


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                        Issues

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