Linux-Misc Digest #71, Volume #27 Fri, 9 Feb 01 23:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Robert Surenko)
Re: security ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
A Beginner Asks About Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sun floppy access from Linux? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Boot Problems w/ WinME & Linux (Don)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (John Hasler)
How to annotate postscript or pdf documents? (Luca de Alfaro)
Re: Sun floppy access from Linux? (Grant Edwards)
Re: Optimize for Speed? (Mark Lybarger)
Library Problems? ("green")
Re: "Only root wants to run x^hgdm" (Bob Hauck)
pktcdvd ("Noah")
Re: A Beginner Asks About Linux
Re: I need ideas... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: gnucash/g-wrap/guile problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: A Beginner Asks About Linux (Arctic Storm)
Re: A Beginner Asks About Linux
Re: Library Problems? (Oliver Wiegand)
Re: Identify a WinModem?? (Chuck Bridgeland)
Re: Identify a WinModem?? (Chuck Bridgeland)
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From: Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 00:16:54 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : In comp.os.linux.misc Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> :> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You appear to be operating under the assumption that the meaning
> I argue for is a new, recent change. It is not.
I was an Atheist about 25 years ago. I agree that it's a great
"default" position. But, I realized that I was guilty of the same thing
I accused the religious people of doing. I had a belief without really
investigating.
I started researching my position and read a lot of stuff. Both pro
and con. I have never read anywhere anything other than it's a
Atheistic "belief".
Please provide references...
> : I don't think it's good to allow a small group to change a definition
> : to suite it's agenda.
> I don't think it's good to allow a large group to change a
> definition to suit it's agenda - that of misrepresenting
> the smaller group.
The concept and the definition of "belief" is very old and
contains in part that belief is a "opinion" or a "conviction".
I don't understand how you can be a Athiest without a "opinion"
or "conviction" on the subject of God/god/gods.
Since, in my opinion (belief) you are hung up on the non-secular
part of the definition of the word "belief", I feel that instead
of the larger group suiting it's agenda, you may be twisting
the definition of the word "belief".
In short you appear to be trying to change the definition of
the word "belief".
> : It appears that some Atheist would rather redefine the situation
> : to make it look like the "others" have belief systems, while they
> : do not.
> That's not re-definition. It's plain fact. The burden of proof
> is on the one proposing the existance of something, not the
> one doubting it.
The subject is not which posistion is right (or wrong) but
is the two positions of the same kind.
I have not tried or claimed that my belief is correct while
yours in incorrect, only that we both have beliefs on the subject.
We are on the same logical footing. We both have an "opinion" or
"conviction" on a subject that is unprovable using science either
way.
> : I think it might be related to the belief that Science is not a
> : set of beliefs.
> It's not. It's a set of methods to be used to arrive at beliefs.
I like your last sentence, a materialist would feel forced to change
the last word from "beliefs" to "facts".
I would only add that it takes faith to believe in the Scientific
Method.
--
=============================================================================
- Bob Surenko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- http://www.fred.net/surenko/
=============================================================================
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: security
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 00:19:13 GMT
Mike Mcclain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Howdy Jim,
> I take it from your response that if I leave telnet and
> ftp in /etc/inetd.conf that this means others can login on my box.
Exactly. Or try to, using possible security holes, since you probably
won't tell anyone the account names and password.
> I thought I had to leave them on to ftp/telnet out. What I really
> think I want is akin to a telephone with no bell. I can call out
> but noone can call in.
The services started by inetd (and ones that run all the time like
sendmail and httpd) are used for incoming connections. Outgoing
connections are initiated by the telnet/ftp, etc. programs that you
start as needed.
If you have to, they're OK, but as Jean-David pointed out, people
might be watching, they are not secure. Of course sometimes you have
to use them, as nothing better is offered at the other end. Don't use
the same password for everything!
> Herein lies the rub, I'm swamped with info about networking. Mc
It gets better with time... :-)
--
Jim Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
=================== http://www.buchanan1.net/ ==========================
"We already have a zillion minimalistic languages. CS departments are
full of 'em. Sometimes you have to go around stomping the little
beggars just to keep their population in check." -Larry Wall
================= Visit: http://www.thehungersite.com ==================
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: A Beginner Asks About Linux
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 00:09:45 GMT
Recently, I have come across the operating
system Linux, and I have a few questions that maybe
you can help me with.
1. The computer I would be running Linux off of (all
by itself; no dual boot) is the following:
AGC Charger III
Intel Pentium III 650 Mhz
Intel 810 Chipset Motherboard
2 USB Ports
20 GB Ultra ATA Hard Drive
64 MB SDRAM
52X CD-ROM
8MB graphic on board
AC97 Digital Sound on board
56K V.90 PCI internal modem
1.44 MD FDD and Microphone
Multimedia Speakers
PS2 Win Keyboard and Hi-Res. Mouse
Mid ATX Tower Case
Is the above computer sufficient for running Linux? I
have been told that Linux can still run on really old
machines, but is this one fast enough for it to be a
personal web server?
Will all of the above be compatible with Linux? Is
650 Mhz fast enough? Also, I will be connecting to a
3com cable modem (model number 3cr29220) as well as a
router (probably a Linksys). Will both be compatible?
Is there sufficient RAM, or should I get more. What
about a NIC card? Can I upgrade the RAM to 128 MB and
put a NIC card in there (is the computer physically
upgradeable?)?
2. Mandrake or Redhat? Which to get? I�ve heard
that Redhat is more stable, but Mandrake is easier to
run, plus it is geared for people coming out of
Windows. Or is their another brand I should get? I
know I can download them for free, but I want to buy
them and get all the technical support as well as
installation manuals.
3. Firewall. Does any brand of Linux come with a
firewall, and if it does, how good is it? Should I
purchase a separate one? I saw one ad for a firewall
specifically designed for Linux, but I have forgotten
where I saw it.
4. Anything else? Any other tips, tricks, websites
to visit that I should know about?
Thank you for your help.
Sent via Deja.com
http://www.deja.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Sun floppy access from Linux?
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 00:17:50 GMT
I have been asked to work with a floppy used with a Sun machine, an
older one I think, to read, copy files to and from etc. I can use Linux
to do that if it is able. But I haven't worked with a Sun machine and
don't know what to expect for file systems on a floppy.
Anyone know?
Sent via Deja.com
http://www.deja.com/
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From: Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Boot Problems w/ WinME & Linux
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 00:30:08 -0000
Thanks, I'll try your suggestions over the weekend. To be honest, I've been
away so much in the last few weeks that I have to reaquaint myself with
what the system is doing.
--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 23:52:14 GMT
> Ian Davey wrote:
> But if I ask you: "Where does the universe come from?", what, pray,
> will be your reply?
It will be "Where did wherever the Universe came from come from?"
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
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From: Luca de Alfaro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to annotate postscript or pdf documents?
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 16:52:41 -0800
More and more manuals and articles are available in postscript or pdf
format. I would like to be able not only to view the manuals and
articles, but also to annotate them: type notes in the margins, and
bookmarks sections that I often need to look up. In summary, I'd like
to be able to do with postscript and pdf what I can do on the
printouts with a pencil and post-its. gv and acroread only enable me
to read the documents... (acroread can also insert bookmarks, but it
cannot save them, so it's fairly useless in this respect).
Are there any tools that enable me to do this?
Note that I don't care about editing the original text. It's enough
for me to be able to add (overlay) my comments in the margin, or
something like that.
Many thanks,
Luca de Alfaro
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: Sun floppy access from Linux?
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 01:13:46 GMT
In article <9621b8$v98$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I have been asked to work with a floppy used with a Sun machine, an
>older one I think, to read, copy files to and from etc. I can use Linux
>to do that if it is able. But I haven't worked with a Sun machine and
>don't know what to expect for file systems on a floppy.
>
>Anyone know?
Try tar and cpio first. I never saw anybody with a Sun machine put a
filesystem on a floppy, but I suppose there's a first time for everything.
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! Spreading peanut
at butter reminds me of
visi.com opera!! I wonder why?
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From: Mark Lybarger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.help,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Optimize for Speed?
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 00:59:48 GMT
what is is about compiling the QT libraries that will give the bang for the
buck? i'm using rh6.2 w/ kde2.0 , i've got 128mb, and am always going to
swap. kde 2 seems to eat lots of memory.
Matt O'Toole wrote:
> "Nils O. Sel�sdal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:_Tug6.139$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> > Compiling applications from scratch should make them faster.
> > compile a new kernel, with only the options you need...
> > see that only the services you require are running..
>
> If you're going to get into compiling things anew, you'll get the most "bang
> for the buck" by compiling things like your QT libraries and others that
> support your X apps. You may actually notice the difference, where with
> other stuff the improvements are more marginal. Marginal improvements do
> add up, but it's an awful lot of work to compile everything. This is for
> the obsessed rather than the results-oriented.
>
> > And.. getting some more ram should help pretty much
>
> Yes it will.
>
> Matt O.
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From: "green" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Library Problems?
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 11:59:28 +1000
I installed tiny linux (cut down slack 4.0 as far I can tell as it uses 4's
setup util.) but tkdesk and fvwm2 don't run.
they complain "fvwm2: can't resolve symbol '__register_frame_info' "
and " :undefined symbol: __register_frame_info"
what do I need to do to resolve this?
I have only xfree 4.0.2 not 3.... could this be the problem?
I got both binaries of slackware's 4.0 section. I didn't compile them.
any help would be appreciated
thanks in advance
Michael.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: "Only root wants to run x^hgdm"
Reply-To: bobh -> haucks org
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 02:43:58 GMT
On Fri, 09 Feb 2001 09:48:05 GMT, kaikun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Only root wants to run x^hgdm"
That's right. gdm is the grahical login manager, not the "gnome starter".
>Can anyone help me? How do I get Gnome to boot automatically and so
>that a normal user can login from the Gnome login screen?
On eDesktop, runlevel 5 is the GUI login. It defaults to kdm, the KDE's
graphical login manager. You need to edit /etc/inittab to start gdm and
run in runlevel 5.
Why you installed Caldera when you really wanted to run Gnome is a whole
'nother question. It would have been easier to use a distro that comes
with Gnome.
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| To Whom You Are Speaking
-| http://www.haucks.org/
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From: "Noah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Noah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: pktcdvd
Date: 9 Feb 2001 18:57:32 -0800
The directions say to use a command called pktsetup, but where to get it????
It also mentions udf tools, but the udf site on sourceforge doesn't have
any.
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A Beginner Asks About Linux
Date: 9 Feb 2001 19:01:18 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Recently, I have come across the operating
>system Linux, and I have a few questions that maybe
>you can help me with.
>
>1. The computer I would be running Linux off of (all
>by itself; no dual boot) is the following:
>
>AGC Charger III
>
>Intel Pentium III 650 Mhz
>Intel 810 Chipset Motherboard
>2 USB Ports
>20 GB Ultra ATA Hard Drive
>64 MB SDRAM
>52X CD-ROM
>8MB graphic on board
>AC97 Digital Sound on board
>56K V.90 PCI internal modem
>1.44 MD FDD and Microphone
>Multimedia Speakers
>PS2 Win Keyboard and Hi-Res. Mouse
>Mid ATX Tower Case
>
>Is the above computer sufficient for running Linux? I
>have been told that Linux can still run on really old
>machines, but is this one fast enough for it to be a
>personal web server?
Yes, more mem...maybe.
>Will all of the above be compatible with Linux? Is
>650 Mhz fast enough? Also, I will be connecting to a
>3com cable modem (model number 3cr29220) as well as a
>router (probably a Linksys). Will both be compatible?
> Is there sufficient RAM, or should I get more. What
>about a NIC card? Can I upgrade the RAM to 128 MB and
>put a NIC card in there (is the computer physically
>upgradeable?)?
I just got a linksys ethernet and had some trouble getting it to work...like
I had to finally upgrade to 2.4 :P
>
>2. Mandrake or Redhat? Which to get?
Niether! Get Slackware or SuSE....Slackware preferably, but SuSE
has rpm....both of the above mentioned distros are garbage (esp RH)
I?ve heard
>that Redhat is more stable, but Mandrake is easier to
>run, plus it is geared for people coming out of
>Windows. Or is their another brand I should get? I
>know I can download them for free, but I want to buy
>them and get all the technical support as well as
>installation manuals.
>
>3. Firewall. Does any brand of Linux come with a
>firewall, and if it does, how good is it? Should I
>purchase a separate one? I saw one ad for a firewall
>specifically designed for Linux, but I have forgotten
>where I saw it.
The linux kernel has a very sufficient firewal.
>
>4. Anything else? Any other tips, tricks, websites
>to visit that I should know about?
www.linuxdoc.org
>
>Thank you for your help.
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com
>http://www.deja.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: I need ideas...
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 03:16:26 GMT
>>>>> "Glitch" == Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Glitch> Mikes1024 wrote:
>> I'm in a bind. I need ideas for new, useful software and/or
>> libraries to write. Please help me.
Glitch> homework due soon?
Usually _that_ requirement leads to people posting assignment
questions, perhaps vaguely veiled as "I need this for work." And such
requests are quite properly to be rebuffed.
In contrast, I would think that suggesting project ideas for someone's
course would be quite proper.
But the above seems to read slightly differently. If I had to make up
a wild scenario [which is a fun enough thing], I'd speculate that this
was a requirement assigned by a would-be employer wanting to appear
more credible.
I can even theorize on a candidate, namely the somewhat-controversial
Linuxgruven. A number of "gruven-folk" have been posting answers to
Usenet questions with that moniker. And it would be unsurprising to
see that the company would try to create some sort of "interest" in
itself by trying to find a library or program that they can use as
their route to fame in the Linux community.
On the other hand, exploring <http://www.gnurds.org/> is fairly
illuminating, and suggests a more mundane explanation...
--
(concatenate 'string "aa454" "@freenet.carleton.ca")
http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/sgml.html
No, I believe it's his real name... he's "unique".
Think Duh-fferent.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: gnucash/g-wrap/guile problem
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 03:17:31 GMT
>>>>> "David" == David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
David> Glitch wrote:
>> thanks. I got guile compiled and g-wrap now. But stupid Gnucash
>> can't find g-wrap. I got it to find the g-wrap-config file but it
>> won't file 'g-wrap',whatever that would be. I put the whole g-wrap
>> directory from /usr/local/ in /usr/bin/ which is in root's path but
>> still Gnucash is too stupid to find it.
>> What the hell am i supposed to do? THere isn't a configure option
>> to specify where g-wrap was installed and I just moved the whole
>> damn directory to /usr/bin.
David> For some reason if you use g-wrap-0.9.5-1 from
David> ftp.redhat.com/pub/rawhide/powertools/SRPMS you can compile
David> gnucash-1.4.10-1 but if you use g-wrap-1.1.4-1 or 1.1.9-1 or
David> 0.9.8-2 or 0.9.12 it doesn't seem to want to compile. For some
David> resaon even trying to compile some of these g-wrap files ends
David> with a message that it needs g-wrap guile-devel even though
David> they are both already installed. I haven't figured out why.
The problem is essentially that there are two quite distinct
development streams for GnuCash.
The "1.4" stream is hopefully fairly stable; it does not have
"latest-and-greatest" of GNOME or, pointedly, of g-wrap.
In contrast, in the "1.5" stream, there are fairly massive changes
that have also resulted in substantial changes to g-wrap. (Rob
Browning seems to be doing more changes to g-wrap than anyone else,
and he's one of the GnuCash staff.)
In this case, you do need "bleeding edge g-wrap" in order to compile
"bleeding edge GnuCash," but be very aware that that "bloodiness" can
result in you cutting yourself :-).
Hopefully 1.6 may be released fairly soon, bringing all of this up to
date. Mind you, it should probably wait 'til g-wrap has done all the
changing it's likely to do for a while...
--
(concatenate 'string "cbbrowne" "@acm.org")
http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/finances.html
Rules of the Evil Overlord #230. "I will not procrastinate regarding
any ritual granting immortality." <http://www.eviloverlord.com/>
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From: Arctic Storm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A Beginner Asks About Linux
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 03:18:38 GMT
> Recently, I have come across the operating
> system Linux, and I have a few questions that maybe
> you can help me with.
>
> 1. The computer I would be running Linux off of (all
> by itself; no dual boot) is the following:
>
> AGC Charger III
>
> Intel Pentium III 650 Mhz
> Intel 810 Chipset Motherboard
> 2 USB Ports
> 20 GB Ultra ATA Hard Drive
> 64 MB SDRAM
> 52X CD-ROM
> 8MB graphic on board
> AC97 Digital Sound on board
> 56K V.90 PCI internal modem
> 1.44 MD FDD and Microphone
> Multimedia Speakers
> PS2 Win Keyboard and Hi-Res. Mouse
> Mid ATX Tower Case
>
> Is the above computer sufficient for running Linux? I
> have been told that Linux can still run on really old
> machines, but is this one fast enough for it to be a
> personal web server?
> Will all of the above be compatible with Linux? Is
> 650 Mhz fast enough? Also, I will be connecting to a
> 3com cable modem (model number 3cr29220) as well as a
> router (probably a Linksys). Will both be compatible?
> Is there sufficient RAM, or should I get more. What
> about a NIC card? Can I upgrade the RAM to 128 MB and
> put a NIC card in there (is the computer physically
> upgradeable?)?
>
> 2. Mandrake or Redhat? Which to get? I�ve heard
> that Redhat is more stable, but Mandrake is easier to
> run, plus it is geared for people coming out of
> Windows. Or is their another brand I should get? I
> know I can download them for free, but I want to buy
> them and get all the technical support as well as
> installation manuals.
>
> 3. Firewall. Does any brand of Linux come with a
> firewall, and if it does, how good is it? Should I
> purchase a separate one? I saw one ad for a firewall
> specifically designed for Linux, but I have forgotten
> where I saw it.
>
> 4. Anything else? Any other tips, tricks, websites
> to visit that I should know about?
Your computer is more than sufficient to run as a server, or anything else
for that matter.
I personally have 256 MB SDRAM, but that's just me.
I personally use RedHat, and I'm happy with it.
Linux can use both DSL and Cable Modems.
My recommendation to you is to get Linux and play aruond with it and learn
it. It takes time and may be frustrating at first, but with patience and
perseverance, you'll get the hang of it in no time, and you'll be able to
make your own decisions.
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A Beginner Asks About Linux
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 22:33:33 -0500
Processor is a bit of an overkill :).
But you do need more ram. 64 MB is used up pretty quick if you start a heavy
graphical environment.
Since you are coming from a windows background ( like I did ) you will want
to run the graphical system.
Things to check :
1) the built in video card. : check www.xfree86.org ( they make the video
drivers linux uses ) for their list of supported video cards .
Especially check about the "onboard" graphics chipset, and it sharing
main memory.
2 )56K V.90 PCI internal modem - This better not be a "winmodem" . but if
you connect to a cable modem , why would you need this ? Faxing ?
3) Access to the cable modem : You need a NIC . Read the Cable Modem
howto on howto.tucows.com .
As for whether you can put in 128Mb and a Nic, you will have to look to the
source of the computer.
Mandrake or redhat ?
Well, redhat has a "Hardware compatability" list. But note that their's is
probably the worst distro in terms of bugs, etc.. Other vendors would have
similar lists.Choose one that supports your hardware. Also pay attention to
the installation procedure. Choose one that allows you to pick and choose
the packages ( applications ) to install.
Firewall :
All modern linux kernels have firewalling capabilities. You just have to set
up the rules using ipchains ( 2.2.x kernels ) or iptables ( 2.4.x kernels )
. the "firewall howto" at howto.tucows.com would be useful .I believe the
author makes refernces to a linux firewall .
hints :
0) NEVER turn off the system without shutting down the operating system
this goes for any modern OS )
a) in a text terminal type "halt"
b) if that fails ( "not found" ) then type /sbin/halt
c) hit ctrl-alt-delete . This cause a reboot. when the system begins the
boot-strap ( you see the bios splash , and memory being counted, then you
can turn it off ).
d) In the graphical mode , select logout , and then "halt" or "shutdown" or
what ever it is called. You may have to type in your password.
1) Pickup a book on running linux . It will explain things to you quite
well.
2) Check about security updates for all the things that you run.
3) Turn off the "portmapper" service on your computer.
5) If you absolutely must run linuxconf, make sure your firewall does blocks
it out to outside users .
6) turn off the "sendmail" , IMAP and any POP services. You are not
intending to run a Mail Transfer Agent , or an IMAP server or a POP server.
Your isp will have an smtp server that your mail client uses to send email,
and a pop server the mail client uses to get incoming email.
7) Turn off the innd , the news server. Your isp has one. use that for now.
You can do the fancy stuff later .
8) Mentally prepare yourself for a steep learning curve : ) ( I find it
exhilrating )
joseph
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From: Oliver Wiegand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Library Problems?
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 04:49:40 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
green wrote:
>
> I installed tiny linux (cut down slack 4.0 as far I can tell as it uses 4's
> setup util.) but tkdesk and fvwm2 don't run.
>
> they complain "fvwm2: can't resolve symbol '__register_frame_info' "
> and " :undefined symbol: __register_frame_info"
>
> what do I need to do to resolve this?
>
> I have only xfree 4.0.2 not 3.... could this be the problem?
> I got both binaries of slackware's 4.0 section. I didn't compile them.
>
> any help would be appreciated
>
> thanks in advance
> Michael.
Maybe recompilation of them with "-fomit-frame-pointer set" as gcc
option.
This solved some of my problems of same kind.
Frame register pointer is just used for debugging purposes,I think,so
you don't really need it if you don't want to debug the programs.Or try
to install newer versions of tkdesk and fvwm from slack7.x, but this can
introduce new problems.
Greetings, Oli
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chuck Bridgeland)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Identify a WinModem??
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 03:56:33 -0000
On Thu, 8 Feb 2001 10:42:10 -0600, Terry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I have a couple of ISA and PCI 56K modems made by 3COM/US Robotics.
>They came with the PCs I bought. I have heard that WinModems are
>not supported by Linux. But how could I tell that whether these
>modems are WinModems? Thanks in advance for your help,
Go to 3com's site and look them up by model number.
--
Gun owner, Christian, Libertarian, Linux user.
If you got a problem with that, then it's time for some "diversity training".
chuck bridgeland, chuckbri at mwci dot net
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chuck Bridgeland)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Identify a WinModem??
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 03:58:04 -0000
On Thu, 8 Feb 2001 21:22:19 -0000, Steven Kinch
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>My guess is that the ISA modem will probably work but the PCI is most
>certainly a winmodem and will not work unless some kind soul has written a
>driver for it. Check out www.linmodems.org for more information.
Actually, USR/3com did (maybe still does) make ISA bus Winmodems. If it's
got jumpers, it's a sure bet it's a real modem.
--
Gun owner, Christian, Libertarian, Linux user.
If you got a problem with that, then it's time for some "diversity training".
chuck bridgeland, chuckbri at mwci dot net
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