Linux-Misc Digest #196, Volume #27 Thu, 22 Feb 01 14:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: ssl email client? (Joshua Baker-LePain)
check for networking status (Anson Ng)
Re: AOL + Linux (Claus Atzenbeck)
Re: ssl email client? (Eduardo Chappa)
Re: NEWSFLASH!!!! How to get a Lucent Winmodem to work under Linux (Andrew
Purugganan)
Re: Xwindow (Markku Kolkka)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (David E. Fox)
Re: procmail problem under Linux (TheGolem)
Re: AOL + Linux (Eggert Ehmke)
Re: renaming 500+ files based on contents of an existing text file (Vilmos Soti)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Re: Size of LINUX (Dirk Groeneveld)
Re: Best distro for old PC? (Federico Bravo)
Mandrake: Can't login! ("John Bonner")
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
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From: Joshua Baker-LePain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ssl email client?
Date: 22 Feb 2001 17:10:24 GMT
jpk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anyone know of an ssl capable email client for Linux? I'm trying to
> wean my system's users off of cleartext.
There are many. Pine and Mutt are two I can think of off the top of my
head.
--
Joshua Baker-LePain
Department of Biomedical Engineering
Duke University
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anson Ng)
Subject: check for networking status
Date: 22 Feb 2001 17:00:50 GMT
My friend told me that my linux server is scanning his machine's from 61236
to 61297 continuously. But I didn't do anything for this.
Is there a command or file which I could check what had caused this??
Thanks for your help, appreciated.
--
Best regards,
Anson
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From: Claus Atzenbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: AOL + Linux
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:17:02 +0100
Jeff Susanj wrote on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 15:10:25 GMT:
> AOL is Linux hostile. They only make AOL for Windows 9xx and Macintosh.
> Even Windows NT is left out. I have to use an older version of AOL for
> windows 3.1 on NT. It may be possible to run AOL using Wine but I haven't
> tried it myself.
I don't want to use AOL's software, I just want to connect to the internet
using "ifup" script.
Is this possible with AOL?
Thanks!
Claus.
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From: Eduardo Chappa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ssl email client?
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 09:15:51 -0800
*** jpk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote in comp.os.linux.misc today:
:) Does anyone know of an ssl capable email client for Linux? I'm trying to
:) wean my system's users off of cleartext.
For starters, try Pine. Get the latest version from
http://www.washington.edu/pine/
--
Eduardo
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Subject: Re: NEWSFLASH!!!! How to get a Lucent Winmodem to work under Linux
Date: 22 Feb 2001 17:45:17 GMT
Seve ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
[ YEah!! I did it after one month of trying different things. OK, here are
[ the details:
[ Linux distro: Mandrake 7.2
[ Kernel version: 2.4.1
[ Modem: Netcomm IN5692 (lucent chip)
[ Dialler: kppp2.4
[ If you are running 2.2.*, it may still work so give it a try before
[ upgrading your kernel.
<snip>
IIRC COREL Linux SE distro supports the modem out-of-the-box, in case
you're less experimental
--
jazz
Registered linux user no. 164098 +--+--+--+ Litestep user no. 386
Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
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From: Markku Kolkka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Xwindow
Date: 22 Feb 2001 19:33:04 +0200
amila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> but after the cmoputer rebooted it goes to the command prompt
> so i logged in as root and typed in "startx", it said "screen(s) were
> found but none were usable" ?????!!!!
This means the monitor defined in the configuration isn't compatible
with any of the defined resolutions. Did you test your X configuration
during install?
> i have an ati rage II + dvd (4megs)
> i chose the the monitor that the install gave me, which was a generic
> moniter
"generic" means 640x480 VGA, you don't want that. If your monitor
isn't in the list, choose "custom" and enter the refresh frequencies
manually (look them up from the monitor manual).
--
Markku Kolkka
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David E. Fox)
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 21:46:51 -0800
On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 08:21:14 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>entitled "3:16," which presents all the instances of "chapter 3 verse
>16" in the Bible. (That oversimplifies slightly; he set up a
>more-or-less complex heuristic to deal with the situation where a
I hope you're not saying that if Knuth hadn't believed in God that there
would be no TeX :).
--
========================================================================
David E. Fox Thanks for letting me
[EMAIL PROTECTED] change magnetic patterns
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk.
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions,linux.redhat.misc
From: TheGolem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: procmail problem under Linux
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:03:30 GMT
Why do you need a .forward file? In Redhat 6.2 and later it isn't
necessary. Procmail works fine for me acting as an LDA and invoked
by sendmail.
Hank
On 8 Feb 2001, * Tong * wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I can't get my procmail going under my linux (RH6.2). The same
> configuration works fine for Solaris. Here is the error message:
>
> /home/tong/.forward: line 1: "|IFS=' '&&p=/usr/bin/procmail&&test -f $p&&exec $p
>-Yf-||exit 75 #std"... User tong doesn't have a valid shell for mailing to programs
>
> What does it mean?
>
> Here are the info of my system:
>
> $ ls -l /usr/bin/procmail
> -rwsr-sr-x 1 root mail 76432 Feb 7 2000 /usr/bin/procmail
>
> $ /usr/bin/procmail -v
> procmail v3.14 1999/11/22, Copyright (c) 1999, Stephen R. van den Berg
>
> $ head -2 ~/.procmailrc
> SHELL = /bin/sh
> PATH=/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin
>
> $ ls -l /bin/sh
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Dec 15 23:42 /bin/sh -> bash
>
> $ ls -l /bin/bash
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 316848 Feb 27 2000 /bin/bash
>
> $ grep tong /etc/passwd
> tong:x:9999:1001:Tong Sun:/home/tong:/usr/local/bin/bash
>
> $ ls -l /usr/local/bin/bash
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1520199 Jan 9 20:48 /usr/local/bin/bash
>
> $ cat ~/.forward
> "|IFS=' '&&p=/usr/bin/procmail&&test -f $p&&exec $p -Yf-||exit 75 #std"
>
> Everything seems perfect to me. how could I fix the problem, or
> where should I look further into? thanks
>
> --
> Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply)
> http://members.xoom.com/suntong001/
> - All free contribution & collection & music from the heavens
>
>
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From: Eggert Ehmke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: AOL + Linux
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 19:07:28 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:17:02 +0100, Claus Atzenbeck
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Is this possible with AOL?
As far as I know, AOL uses some proprietary protocol, not ppp. You have to
use their crapped software. That's why I never liked AOL, even the windows
version is horrible.
Bad news...
--
Eggert Ehmke
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: renaming 500+ files based on contents of an existing text file
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:12:48 GMT
Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> this is more of a curiousity question, although it would be nice if it
> would be possible.
Yes, it is possible.
> I have a collection of viruses. I use f-prot to scan them in order to
> find out their correct names. I then rename the existing zip archive to
> that of the name of the virus f-prot siad it was infected with(which is
> the virus itself).
>
> Here is what the output of f-prot looks like:
>
> C:\ZIP2\VIRII\UNIXLO~1.SH Infection: Unix/LoveLetter
> C:\ZIP2\VIRII\VBSFRE~1.VBS Infection: VBS/FreeLinks.A
> C:\ZIP2\VIRII\NEWVIRII\ASCIIV.ZIP->VIRII/GLITCH/ASCIIV.COM Infection:
> Ascii.613.unknown?
> C:\ZIP2\VIRII\NEWVIRII\CEREBR~1.ZIP->cerebrus.zip->CEREBRUS.EXE
> Infection: W95/Cerebrus.1482
>
>
> I'd have the shell script find anything after "Infection:" and make that
> the filename for the file listed on that same line.
>
> Cerebrus.zip would be renamed to Cerebus.1482.zip
>
> Is this possible and difficult to accomplish?
OK, I just write ot off my head without actually testing it.
First, have the output of f-prot in a textfile, say, virus.txt.
Next, mount the dos partition as msdos (not vfat) since it seems
you have 8.3 filenames.
Next, do a for loop over all the files.
for file in *; do
# get the corresponding line onto $out.
out=$(grep -i $file virus.txt)
# check for not zero length.
if [ ! -z "$out" ]; then
# ok, we found a match
# get the virusname into $virusname
virusname=$(echo $out | awk -F'Infection: ' '{print $2}')
# get extension and basename. I use awk since who knows
# what extensions you have
ext=$(echo $file | awk -F\. '{print $NF}')
base=$(echo $file | awk -F\. '{OFS = "."; $NF = ""; print}')
mv $file $base.$ext
fi
done
Again, I *DID NOT* check this. but something like this could get
you started. BTW I think perl would be better for this than shell.
Also, it doesn't handle filenames like
C:\ZIP2\VIRII\NEWVIRII\ASCIIV.ZIP->VIRII/GLITCH/ASCIIV.COM
Vilmos
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:27:02 -0000
On 22 Feb 2001 02:09:12 GMT, Donovan Rebbechi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 00:47:46 -0000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>>>On the contrary, creating a society that hands out rewards on the basis
>>>of inheritance and not merit is a great way to create an aristocracy.
>>
>> That still doesn't eliminate the fact that you are still
>> fucking with people's motivations to be productive.
>> Stealing from productive people to too great a degree
>> ends up being counterproductive.
>
>The fact that they won't have as much money after they die is unlikely
>to kill their motivation to work hard.
You seem to be a biological form yet have no grasp of the
biological motivation to benefits one's offspring. The
laborer does not infact completely vanish once death takes
them. The motivation for their labors still lives on.
Thoreau decided to take jail time rather than have a government
misuse his money. It's not unreasonable to expect the living to
have similar notions regarding what governments might do to
looted wealth after death.
>
>I agree with the basic thrust of this statement though -- it's important
>that there's an incentive to be productive.
>
>> Plus, this occurs even in the presence of inheritance taxes.
>> The children of the wealthy still derive benefits from merely
>> being born to the right parents.
>
>Of course. So what ? I don't think it's possible or desirable to
>completely level the playing field -- the measures required to
>do so would be draconian.
>
>> You don't stop the formation
>> of aristocracy with death taxes.
>
>If you use the money to fund a decent public education system, you
>have something which is of greater resemblence to a meritocracy. The
>rich kids have an advantage, but not an exclusive lock.
...as if this actually happens.
What PLANET did you grow up on?
--
Ease of use should be associated with things like "human engineering"
and "use the right tool for the right job". And of course,
"reliability", since stopping to fix a problem or starting over due
to lost work are the very antithesis of "ease of use".
Bobby Bryant - COLA
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:28:43 -0000
On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 01:05:47 GMT, The Ghost In The Machine
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Aaron Kulkis
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote
>on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 17:49:08 -0500
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>>
>>chrisv wrote:
>>>
>>> Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Income taxes of ANY sort punish those who WORK, while letting those
>>> >who live off of Grandpa's trust funds (Kennedys, Rockefellers) without
>>> >paying a dime. Replacing Income taxes with Sales taxes reverses
>>> >this situation.
>>>
>>> But then the less you earn, the HIGHER PERCENTAGE of your income goes
>>> to taxes.
>>
>>GOOD!
>
>Interesting notion: should unearned income be taxable, and earned
>income non-taxable? (What is the diff?)
Unless you're the Coreleone family, it's all earned ultimately.
[deletia]
Should the government be allowe to keep on making excuses NEW
excuses to take your money or should they just be limited to
doing it once?
--
Section 8. The Congress shall have power...
To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for
limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their
respective writings and discoveries;
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:30:49 -0000
On 22 Feb 2001 02:17:50 GMT, Donovan Rebbechi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 00:19:00 -0000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>>>That's why Bush's plan primarily benefits the richest 1%, right ? And it's
>>>also why the democrats are opposing it -- because giving huge tax breaks
>>
>> ...because the republicans are advocating it.
>>
>> No other motivation is required really.
>
>Then why have the Democrats been fairly supportive of GWB's education plan?
>
>Even Senator Kennedy, hardly the most non-partisan Democrat, spoke
>favourably of the plan.
One never can tell what sort of bargaining is going on in
a political body. Also, conflict cannot be total, otherwise
it would undermine reelection.
--
Regarding Copyleft:
There are more of "US" than there are of "YOU", so I don't
really give a damn if you're mad that the L/GPL makes it
harder for you to be a robber baron.
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From: Dirk Groeneveld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Size of LINUX
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 20:16:05 +0100
Mark Bratcher wrote:
> So what have we gained in all this? I think it's a compromise. I think
> we now see app and OS changes more rapidly (with the possible exception
> of MicroSoft stuff hehe), but also code is written a lot less efficiently.
Watch your words. I think that code is written a lot more efficiently than
in the old days.
But the written code is a lot less efficient.
Today, an application like KNode (don't nail me down on this) can be
developed in 3 months. It then supports toolbars and menus, interacts with
other applications, runs on machines ranging from a 486 with 100 MHz to the
latest Sun Server.
That's efficient code writing.
Rolie's PDP-6 operating system runs fast and needs merely 4K of memory.
That's writing efficient code.
Dirk
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From: Federico Bravo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Best distro for old PC?
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:53:00 GMT
I used Slackware 3.xx (don't remember) on a 486-DX2 66 with 8Mb RAM and
320Mb HDD. I remember using X with no problems.
Federico.
Rob Chambers wrote:
> I'm thinking of building a system to play with out of some old parts.
> It's likely to be a 33MHz 486DX with 4 or 8 Mb RAM, 250 Mb HD (80 + 170)
> and no CD-ROM. I've been recommended muLinux, are there any other good
> distros for such a machine? I'm not bothered about running X on such a
> machine if it's not really feasible.
>
> Rob
> --
> I cried because I had no shoes
> Until I met a man who had no feet
> So I laughed and called him "Stumpy"
> And ran away
> Because I knew he could not chase me.
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From: "John Bonner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mandrake: Can't login!
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 19:02:56 -0000
I have just installed Mandrake 6.1(Helios) on a standalone machine (custom
installation). (It came on a magazine disk.)
When I get to the login prompt at localhost, it will not accept root or
username and acts as if I did not type anything. I don't even get an error
messsage.
What is the problem here? Have I overlooked something? Should I just choose
the "workstation" option?
Any ideas welcome.
John Bonner.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 19:09:59 -0000
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 00:39:51 GMT, Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In comp.os.linux.misc Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> In comp.os.linux.misc Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> In comp.os.linux.misc Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> In comp.os.linux.misc Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>> In comp.os.linux.misc Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
[deletia]
>> conviction. It's a formal game at bottom - like winning at Gin Rummy.
>
>Well, I can respect that.
>
>It's how I look at the results of my 5 senses. I don't have an absolute
>belief in anything I see or hear, but I've found that if I pay attention
>it helps "win the game".
>
>However, maybe I'm strange. I feel that some studies like perhaps ethics
>are somehow grounded in a "absolute" truth. Maybe because I fear the
>alternative.
Ethics is not infact based on "absolute" truth but acknowledging
what your standards and objectives are. It is "absolute" truth
that is scary for it is typically adhered to without any thought.
[deletia]
--
The term "popular" is MEANINGLESS in consumer computing. DOS3
was more "popular" than contemporary Macintoshes despite the
likelihood that someone like you would pay the extra money to
not have to deal with DOS3.
Network effects are everything in computing.
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