Linux-Misc Digest #437, Volume #27 Sat, 24 Mar 01 19:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: where to set harddisk geometry (Dave Brown)
Re: How to switch user id for shell script? (Dave Brown)
X die suddenly... (Alex Chan)
Is there an "Annoyance eliminator"? ("japhilp")
JAVA programming an System clock ("Thomas G.")
Re: Linux for a 486? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: RedHat 7 - SCSI Low Level Formatter? (Johan Kullstam)
Re: Is there an "Annoyance eliminator"? (simes)
Re: *Good* Office software for linux??? (John Hong)
Partition Table ("David Griffith")
lpr problems (adeon)
Re: FTP and TELNET problems in Mandrake 7.2 (Garglemonster)
Re: pdf (was: Best E-mail Client?) (Garglemonster)
Re: good newsreader? (Garglemonster)
Re: Best E-mail Client? (Grant Edwards)
Re: pdf (was: Best E-mail Client?) (John Thompson)
Re: Tandy Model 100 as linux terminal ("Bill Marcum")
Re: *Good* Office software for linux??? (Grant Edwards)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: where to set harddisk geometry
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 24 Mar 2001 12:12:04 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Villy Kruse wrote:
>On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 19:43:37 +0100, peter pilsl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>definitely. I tried three or four times (and just now again).
>>I change the h,c,s - parameters in expertmode of fdisk. When showing the
>>partitiontable, I dont get any errors, the I exit with 'w' and fdisk calls
>>ioctl() and is syncing disk and when starting fdisk again, the old values
>>are here again.
>
>The old valuse of c,h,s ??? That is correct, these parameters aren't
>stored anywhere. If anywhere, these parameters are stored in bios.
I'd swear that there was a way to have these parameters known to the current
"environment". I've had problems with a scsi disk, which I boot from.
I'd partitioned with chs something like 1115,255,63. It all seemed to
worked initially.
But lately I've tried to use Lilo, it complains that it can deal with 8000
cylinders. Needless to say, telling fdisk the "prescribed" geometry
doesn't help Lilo. And, of course, the scsi controller doesn't bother to
save any "geometry".
Is it just a version of Lilo that's too old, or am I missing something?
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: How to switch user id for shell script?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 24 Mar 2001 14:49:51 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Vilmos Soti wrote:
>Jeremiah DeWitt Weiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> (snip)
>
>Isn't it only a Linux thing? Don't other Unices honor the suid bit on
>shell scripts?
>
>Vilmos
No... AIX does not. I had been told that HP-UX did, but I think that's
been changed. Considered a security exposure.
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Chan)
Subject: X die suddenly...
Date: 24 Mar 2001 21:17:35 GMT
Hi,
I am sorry to trouble you guys but my LM 7.2 drives me to the wall again...
When I start my computer, X window didn't start as usual. So I type
startX after login. The tty7 became nothing, X server failed. Thus
I reboot my computer in tty1 as root and look at the start up message
very carefully, I found nothing special, everything returns a [OK]
including the 'start X font server'. But still I can't start the X.
Thus, I log in as root and run the X config tool 'drakxconf'. When
I try to configure XFree86 4.0.1, it exit immediately without prompting
or warning. Then I try to configure 3.6.6. After I configure everything,
I reboot the computer and try to startX again. No supprise, it fails.
the error message listed here:
=========================
The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports:
> Error: bad length in Symbole
> Output file "/var/tmp/server-0.xkm" removed
Error from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server
Couldn't load XKB ceymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap
_FontTransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't commect: errno=111
failed to set default font path 'unix/:-1'
Fatal server error:
could not open default font 'fixed'
When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send
the full server output, not just the last messages.
X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown.)
=========================
Although it ask me to send whole message, I don't know where can I get
it, I looked into the /var/log directory, I can't find this file.
after then, I halt it as root and the line "shutdown X Font server" and
"shutdown xinetd" would return "fail". Nothing else is extraordinary.
My mandrake 7.2 has been up and used everyday. It works very well until
yesterday, I don't know why it suddenly has this problem. Does anyone
can help? Did I do anything wrong to it?
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From: "japhilp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Is there an "Annoyance eliminator"?
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 21:52:15 GMT
Now they claim that every click that I make is logged, in win98.
Sure, if it is winME, it not only logs the clicks, it keeps backups of
files before modifying them.Let them log it. my win98 is a comp that has no
networking installed , none what-so-ever. :) For the really determined, I
have it from some dubious sources that you should personally *melt* the
platter to hide your data. But not everyone can have a foundry in their back
yard...
Really, this is getting rediculous.Statements like "every click you make on
Windows 98 Start Menu is logged and stored for ever on a hidden encrypted
database within your own computer" are not exactly a "Public service
announcement". More like scare mongering tactics.
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From: "Thomas G." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: JAVA programming an System clock
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 22:51:50 +0200
Hello fellow Linux users,
Assuming that you are all much more professional than I am, I'd like to ask
a few questions....
First of all, at my college, the people there have configured emacs in such
a way that if you are programming a java file or writing an html file in it,
all the tags get a specific color. Also when you press ctrl-x ctrl-e, Emacs
automatically starts to compile the program you wrote and shows the
compiler-error messages in a second lower frame in emacs. I figured out they
did this by using some scripts. No use asking them how to do it. They never
have time to explain. Does anybody know how to do this?
Second, I've updated the aaa_base from the SuSE 7.1 updates, but now my
system clock gets set 3 1/2 hours off everytime I start Linux. Does anybody
know how to fix this?
Thanx a lot if you can help me,
Thom.
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux for a 486?
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 16:41:09 +0100
Mike Flournoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> in article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Hartmann Schaffer at
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 3/22/01 10:10 PM:
> Thanks for all the input. I was gifted a NeXT machine which is really nice
> but the screen is going dim ( a common problem with them apparently )and is
> only B & W. It works so well on a motorola 68040 & 16mb ram that I thought
> Linux on a 486 might work as well and give me a color screen and better
> printer support. But then when I researched everything points to pretty
I run a 486sx50 with 8MB ram. I use it as an X terminal.
> heavy hardware. Oh well.
Eh?
> It sounds like Afterstep might be my best option but I'll need more ram and
> maybe a bigger HD. I have a Digital 486/50 with 16mb and either 200mb or
I don't particularly understand .. I use fvwm and it works just fine.
> 500mb hd, I'll have to fire it up and check.
!! I have an 170MB hard drive, wiuth half devoted to the system.
There's no particular squeeze. This is mostly slackware 3.x stuff.
I used to do all my compilation on this system way back when ...
Peter
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Subject: Re: RedHat 7 - SCSI Low Level Formatter?
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 22:46:29 GMT
Chris wolcott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Is there a way to perform a LOW-LEVEL format in Linux RedHat 7?
usually the scsi controller bios will offer low-level format. try at
boot time.
> Is there a way to build my own image for the 17SMG build? (I have it
> loaded, but it requires manual intervention to boot. . .)
>
> Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
--
J o h a n K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Don't Fear the Penguin!
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From: simes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is there an "Annoyance eliminator"?
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 22:57:30 +0000
japhilp wrote:
> Now they claim that every click that I make is logged, in win98.
> Sure, if it is winME, it not only logs the clicks, it keeps backups of
> files before modifying them.Let them log it. my win98 is a comp that has no
> networking installed , none what-so-ever. :) For the really determined, I
> have it from some dubious sources that you should personally *melt* the
> platter to hide your data. But not everyone can have a foundry in their back
> yard...
>
> Really, this is getting rediculous.Statements like "every click you make on
> Windows 98 Start Menu is logged and stored for ever on a hidden encrypted
> database within your own computer" are not exactly a "Public service
> announcement". More like scare mongering tactics.
go and preach crazy somewhere else, we are all stocked up here !!!!!!!
simes
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hong)
Subject: Re: *Good* Office software for linux???
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 22:41:40 +0000 (UTC)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards) writes:
>I've got WP8, Applix 5.0, and SO 5.2. Here's my 2 cents:
>Star Office
>-----------
>SO is just too big, slow, and buggy. The "take over the
>desktop" approach annoys me and I can't stand the
>file-selection dialog boxes. It opens most doc and xls files
>OK but crashes even under light usage. I don't think it's
>worth installing unless you absolutely can't spend any money.
Have you applied the patch? It's available at Sun's support site.
>WordPerfect
>-----------
>WP8 is much faster and responsive. Not _quite_ as compatible
>with MS-Word as SO. It has a few quirks, but I think it's as
>good as MS-Word for the casual stuff I do (Anything that has to
>look professional gets done with LaTeX). WP8 (the last native
>Unix version) Doesn't include a spreadsheet or other apps.
>Corel's current Office for Linux product is the MS-Windows
>version linked with Wine. I've not tried it and have heard
>mixed reviews.
The best version of WP for Linux. WP2000 for Linux sucks. In
fact, if you were to compare SO to WP2000 than SO would probably take it
since it isn't being run through WINE.
>Applix Office
>-------------
>Applix is a *very* solid product. Fast, small, with the right
>features. The word-processor, spreadsheet and other apps are
>IMO every bit as good as MS-Office. I've not used the
>presentation program, e-mail client, database front-end, or
>graphics program much, but I've been using Applix under Solaris
>and Linux for 5 or 6 years (off and on). The HTML editor
>seemed to work OK for casual use (the HTML it generated wasn't
>too bad) but I still edit HTML with Jed.
This is perhaps Linux's best office suite. Applix (or Vista
something or another) has been in the Linux/Unix office suite business for
quite some time now. The problem that they face is that it is quite
unknown to anyone out there in the Windows world. Not to mention they
have left their Windows version of this product sitting at v4.4.1. That
is rather unfortunate since it could help bridge the gap between the two.
I would even rate the word processor to be better than WordPerfect. The
problem is, it isn't WordPerfect. They have no name recognition
whatsoever and their filters are, IMO, no where near the quality of SO's
for Microsoft Word documents. This will make people wary in purchasing
Applixware.
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From: "David Griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Partition Table
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 23:13:17 -0000
Does anyone here know what has gone wrong with my system.
I have 1 20GB hd (IDE) partitioned into many smaller parts. Because windows
went on first, i have a primary DOS partition and a secondary dos partition.
Linux used to go
hda1 hda2 <hda5 ......... > etc
but since a reboot it finds hda1 and 2, but the extended partion appears
empty. The kernel then panics as the root should be hda7.
What has happened?
Can I fix it?
fdisk reports an inconsistency in partion table 5, but i darent 'fix' it in
case it deletes what may be otherwise recoverable.
I really need to get todays work off of it!
Please help
David Griffith
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From: adeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: lpr problems
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 00:36:07 +0000
Hi all
When I try to print anything on my printer I'm getting following mail from
halt@localhost user:
Your printer job (job_name)
was not printed because it was not linked to the original file
Does anyone know where the problem is?
My printer works (for example echo aaa>/dev/lp0 prints 3 a), and /etc/printcap
i correcly set by apsfilter. I have got Slackware 7.1
adeon
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Garglemonster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FTP and TELNET problems in Mandrake 7.2
Date: 25 Mar 2001 08:51:12 +0900
>>>>> "mike" == mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
mike> Hi, I just found out the the FTP function is actually
mike> working, it just takes a few minutes to get a login
mike> prompt. Any ideas why so long? It is probably searching for
mike> something
there's a similar problem with slackware. still haven't found what it
is. replaced ftp, but the delay remains.
g.m.
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I like your SNOOPY POSTER!!
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From: Garglemonster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: pdf (was: Best E-mail Client?)
Date: 25 Mar 2001 08:51:13 +0900
>>>>> "Jan" == Jan Schaumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Jan> I fell sorry for you. But I assume you have to make the
Jan> decision:
Jan> 1) Use only one application for all your mail a) one that
Jan> supports HTML and is most likely not as powerful/useful as
Jan> another one, but the folks you communicate with get their
Jan> crappy html-mail with lots of <blink>fancy</blink> stuff and
Jan> security holes via *script
Jan> b) a real mailreader such as mutt
Jan> (http://www.mutt.org) that you can configure to spawn
Jan> external applications if you receive non-ascii mails. You
Jan> won't be able to /send/ html (unless you code it by hand),
Jan> but you have a sane MUA
i'm surprised that gnus has not surfaced in this discussion. gnus can
handle html formatted mail, that is, either display it as html or wash
out the html crap. of course, getting gnus to do that can be a pain,
but the same applies to a lot of other apps.
g.m.
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
NANCY!! Why is everything RED?!
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From: Garglemonster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: good newsreader?
Date: 25 Mar 2001 08:51:11 +0900
>>>>> "lop" == lop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
lop> hello i am searching for a good newsreader running under
lop> linux. mainly used for downloading binaries.
<snip>
lop> i dont have Xwindows installed and iam not willing
lop> to install it unless it is really needed) please tell me if
lop> there is a prog out there which is good.
sure. gnus. or perhaps slrn if you are not an emacs person.
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yow! Are you the self-frying president?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Best E-mail Client?
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 23:50:53 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Beardmore wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dowe Keller
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>>On Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:20:17 GMT, Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>In a world with LaTeX, SGML and Texinfo, why do some people still
>>insist on doing things the *HARD WAY*?
>
>The LaTeX world sounds like rather hard work compared to WISIWIG.
I've written technical reports and academic papers in both Frame and LaTeX.
LaTeX is far less work as far as I'm concerned. From what I've seen of
MS-Word, it's a piece of shit toy next to Frame. At least Frame generates
half-way decent output (not as good as LaTeX).
MS Word output looks awful: equations are painful to look at; no kerning; no
ligatures; broken tables of contents; broken indexes; broken paragraph
numbering and cross references. MS-Word is purely for amateurs who don't
care if thier work looks like crap.
Equations in Frame are little better (but still not good enough that I'd
want my name on the same page), and it gets most of the other stuff right.
>Does SGML offer a tidy way to author for the web and paper from the same
>'source code' ? If so, where do you start ?
Yes. There are several packages that do that. DocBook is one.
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! My mind is making
at ashtrays in Dayton....
visi.com
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: pdf (was: Best E-mail Client?)
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 14:47:39 -0600
steve wrote:
> >> > Perhaps they could get ghostscript, but they have stuff in
> >> > Microsoft Word, not .ps, so how do they convert Word .doc files to
> >> > .ps files so they can use ghostscript to convert that to .pdf?
> >> Doesn't "Print to file" in Windows generate a postscript just like in
> >> *nix?
> Yes a windoze user can simply print to file, creating a .prn file which
> is MickeySoft's version of a .ps file. Then the user needs distiller to
> create the pdf. It's expensive btw, but very useful, especially if one
> often needs to send documents out for approval and one wants the
> formatting to be exact. That's something even different versions of
> Word can't do btw [keep formatting exact].
It doesn't have to be expensive. There is a Windows version of
ghostscript that can convert postscript printer file output to
.pdf format.
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: "Bill Marcum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.tandy,comp.os.linux.powerpc
Subject: Re: Tandy Model 100 as linux terminal
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 18:53:22 -0500
Jeff Hellige wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> There's a little program that emulates a VT100 terminal available
>for the Model 100. I believe it's availabe at the Club 100 download
>area. Try;
>
> http://www.the-dock.com/club100.html
Don't need a vt100 emulator, the 100 by itself emulates a VT52 more or
less, but with only 40 columns by 8 lines. There's a termcap for it,
might already be included in Linux or you might find it at club100.
You don't see curly brackets, backslash or tilde on the keyboard, but
they're there. Try CODE or GRPH and the keys in the top right corner of the
keyboard.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: *Good* Office software for linux???
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 23:58:33 GMT
In article <99j7r4$70a$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Hong wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards) writes:
>
>>I've got WP8, Applix 5.0, and SO 5.2. Here's my 2 cents:
>
>>SO is just too big, slow, and buggy.
>
> Have you applied the patch? It's available at Sun's support site.
Nope. I installed a couple different versions then gave up.
>>Applix is a *very* solid product. Fast, small, with the right features. The
>>word-processor, spreadsheet and other apps are IMO every bit as good as
>>MS-Office.
>
> This is perhaps Linux's best office suite. Applix (or Vista something or
>another) has been in the Linux/Unix office suite business for quite some
>time now. The problem that they face is that it is quite unknown to anyone
>out there in the Windows world. Not to mention they have left their Windows
>version of this product sitting at v4.4.1.
They used to have a not insignificant presence in the NT market with some
corporate and government installations -- little or no consumer penetration.
They seem to have given up on the Windows market. :(
>That is rather unfortunate since it could help bridge the gap between the
>two. I would even rate the word processor to be better than WordPerfect.
>The problem is, it isn't WordPerfect. They have no name recognition
>whatsoever and their filters are, IMO, no where near the quality of SO's for
>Microsoft Word documents. This will make people wary in purchasing
>Applixware.
I haven't noticed that Applix's import filters are much worse than the
others, but I don't import stuff all that often. Most of the simple
documents I've tried worked in all three, and the complex ones were broken
to some extent in all three.
The import filters aside, it's IMO definitely the best office suite for
Linux. (Like I said, I haven't tried the new Corel Office/Wine combo, but
I don't have high hopes for it.)
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! Finally, Zippy
at drives his 1958 RAMBLER
visi.com METROPOLITAN into the
faculty dining room.
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