Linux-Misc Digest #457, Volume #27 Tue, 27 Mar 01 05:13:01 EST
Contents:
System logging (Stephen Hui)
Re: OMS requires glib but doesnt find it ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Help please! My root partition's supper block dead ("Eric")
Re: arg! deleted /dev/sr0! ("Eric")
VIA Apollo Pro 133 on-board sound (John Weber)
Re: Help please! My root partition's supper block dead (Bosco Yip)
Re: System logging (Stephen Hui)
Re: The death of MS Office? (Richard Steiner)
installing linux ignoring a swap partition (Massimiliano Caovilla)
Re: Reporting tools on linux (Michael Heiming)
Re: Partitions and Sizes (Floyd Davidson)
Re: RH7 remote printing error (Spyros Tsiolis)
new user in linux(redhat7.0) (arasu)
Re: Partition table is defect ... (Spyros Tsiolis)
Re: RPM's (Spyros Tsiolis)
Re: System logging (Michael Heiming)
Re: RPM's (Spyros Tsiolis)
Audio CD recording problems (Bart Friederichs)
Re: BUILD YOUR OWN CABLE BOX DESCRAMBLER ((LEGAL)) (Bart Friederichs)
Re: Why is "S" respawing? (Jan Just Keijser)
Re: RPM's (Kenneth Mokkelbost)
setting up for Redhat 6.2 ("Chimpsky")
sorry I must be in the dark ages everyone has RH 7.0 NT ("Chimpsky")
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From: Stephen Hui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: System logging
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 05:57:31 GMT
It seems that system messages aren't being logged on my system. I'm
looking at /var/log/secure, and the last entry was Jan 3, 2001. Same
with /var/log/messages
I do have what looks like an attempt at cracking my system with the ftp
buffer overrun attack, but I don't know of a way to know that it
succeeded. This attack was the last log in /var/log/messages. I
installed root-tail to watch these logfiles, but they haven't changed in
3 months.
I'm using RH 6.2, syslogd 1.3, klogd 1.3, wu-ftp 2.6.1.
Advice?
Thanks.
Stephen.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OMS requires glib but doesnt find it
Date: 27 Mar 2001 08:40:08 +0100
Markku Kolkka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> G Tselentis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> configure: error: Cannot find GLIB: Is glib-config in path?
>>
>> I've got a full Mandrake 7.2 installation (latest one, with latest kernel
>> and x windows). I tried to download the GLIB mentioned ... I did, installed
>> it and everything and still gave me that error. HOWEVER ... when I'm my
>> normal username and i type glib-config ... it runs it! But when im root, it
>> doesnt
> It's rather obvious that glib-config isn't in root's path (it's
> different from regular users'). Find where it's located and change
> root's path accordingly (edit /root/.bash_profile).
A better advice would be to avoid doing anything more than is strictly
necessary as root. For example, compiling stuff can be safely done by
a normal user! Only "make install" needs to be run as root (and it is
even possible to make this step unnecessary if you give the right permissions
on /usr/local).
--
Alain Borel
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help please! My root partition's supper block dead
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 08:41:27 +0200
> FIXED! You just save me. Thanks a lot.
> One question, why use 32768 (8192*4) instead of 8192+1 or n(8192)+1?
I'v read that formula too, and I don't know why it exists.
It appears to be wrong.
> I just want to know more about the file system structute.
please read the manpage of mke2fs.
And there's probably tons of other info on this stuff.
(eg. the source code :-) )
You can specify where to put copies of the superblock.
default a copy is placed at 8192 (or 8193?) but on my systems
(RH) the sparse superblock appears to be default.
You get less copy's that way. I just noticed these numbers during
mke2fs, and found them to work, whereas the (n*8192)+1 never
worked for me. Perhaps you can use debugfs or dumpfs to find the locations
after you created the FS, but you'd have to try it for yourself.
Eric
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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: arg! deleted /dev/sr0!
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 08:59:49 +0200
> I'm running a small server which has a scsi cdrw. While I was tinkering
> around the other day I accidentially deleted /dev/sr0. I can still
> read cds using /dev/scd0, but can't read/write the cdrw. I've tried
> working with mknod but have not had any luck. Any advice would be
> appreciated.
>
There's no luck involved in mknod.
/sbin/mknod /dev/sr0 b 11 0
but it's the exact same device-node as /dev/scd0
I fail to see why you cannot write to /dev/scd0
(read /usr/src/linux/Documentation/devices.txt)
Eric
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From: John Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: VIA Apollo Pro 133 on-board sound
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 07:21:44 GMT
Compiled the kernel with VIA audio support. This works, but works very
badly (there's a strange humming sound). Anyone have any experience to
share?
--
j o h n
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From: Bosco Yip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help please! My root partition's supper block dead
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:18:19 +0800
Thanks a lot! :-)
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From: Stephen Hui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: System logging
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 07:14:54 GMT
Thanks to those who suggested I get and run chkrootkit.
I did, and this is what it found:
Checking `rshd'... INFECTED
Checking `tcpd'... INFECTED
Checking `lkm'... You have 28 process hidden for ps command
Warning: Possible LKM Trojan installed
All others are "NOT TESTED", "Not vulnerable", or "Nothing found".
I suppose I would want to install clean copies if rshd and tcpd, but
this still doesn't solve my logging issue....
Thanks,
Stephen.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Subject: Re: The death of MS Office?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 00:59:45 -0600
Here in comp.os.linux.misc, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MarkEllse)
spake unto us, saying:
>The death knell of IBM as a PC manufacturer was not sounded by better
>computers (of which there were a number) but by identical and cheaper
>clones.
IBM is hardly "dead" as a PC manufacturer. They still make some very
good PCs, as exemplified by their IntelliStation line.
I have a pair of them here at home, and they're excellent machines!
--
-Rich Steiner >>>---> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>---> Eden Prairie, MN
OS/2 + BeOS + Linux + Solaris + Win95 + WinNT4 + FreeBSD + DOS
+ PC/GEOS + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
Knock firmly but softly. I like soft, firm knockers!
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From: Massimiliano Caovilla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: installing linux ignoring a swap partition
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 08:00:00 GMT
Hello
I have a machine with 8Gb HD, with first 4Gb dedicated to a solaris
partition: (type 82, a primary one). I want to install linux on the next
4Gb, but the installer of redhat 6.2 automatically set the solaris
partition to swap space, due to the fact that both solaris and linux
swap partitions appear to use id 82.
I avoided the problem installing linux before than solaris, but now I
have to reinstall linux and I was wondering how to tell it to ignore
solaris' partition. Thanks
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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:18:19 +0200
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Reporting tools on linux
Harlan Grove wrote:
>
> Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Bindou wrote:
> ...
> >> Is there any reporting tool on linux such as the crystal report on
> windows?
> >If you don't mind to tell us what "the crystal report on windows" does, may
> be
> >someone could help you...
>
> Come on. If you don't know what the product is, don't reply - just like you
> wouldn't have if the OP had asked about a compiler for a language you'd
> never heard of.
>
> FWIW, Crystal Reports is a GUI report designer/generator for use with
> databases that can be used as a scriptable COM object. There's no GUI
> equivalent for Linux (well, none I'm aware of, and none on rpmfind.net).
> However, there's a lot of perl code, at least, that you could adapt to write
> reports in HTML format.
The Op could have done at least a quik search like:
http://sourceforge.net/search/?type_of_search=soft&exact=1&words=crystal+report
Is it to complicated to use a search engine today?
Michael Heiming
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From: Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Partitions and Sizes
Date: 26 Mar 2001 22:26:40 -0900
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yvan Loranger) wrote:
>Floyd Davidson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
>> Ralph Miguel Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>I don't like to do stuff like partitioning twice and I don't like to run
>>>out of space in let's say /usr and having a lot of space left on /opt.
>>
>> That is exactly why symbolic links exist. Correctly such an unbalance
>> is trivial.
>
>Won't you then be negating a major reason for multiple partitions; ie
>file-system separation/isolation?
Liberal use of symbolic links allows even *more* partitions,
thus having even better "separation/isolation". Ignoring
symlinks forces guessing on the high side when sizing partitions
because it is so difficult to go back and resize one that is too
small. However, if the intent to begin with is to use symlinks,
a conservative in sizing partitions can be taken (with some
exceptions), and of course several more partitions than appears
necessary can be used to advantage.
The one exception is that unless there is abundant disk space I
just do not see any reason to have /tmp mounted as a separate
partition, and instead recommend making a symlink to /var/tmp
(which /usr/tmp should also be linked to).
My preferred method is to divide my swap space into _three_
partitions, a minimal root partition, a minimal /usr, and
perhaps /opt (I'm not a fan of /opt). I like a /usr/local, and
tend to be less conservative in sizing it. Then judicious /home
and /var partitions. Remaining disk space, or new disk space if
another is added, are divided into /u1, /u2, /u3, /u4, etc.
I typically make /home/floyd a symlink to something like
/u4/floyd (and do the same for any other user that has
significant disk requirements), and allow that entire partition
to be used by a single user. I commonly have one or more of
those extra partitions also contain all of X11, TeX, the Linux
kernel source tree, XEmacs, and other major packages.
The reason for using three swap partitions is that occasionally
a nice small clean partition with nothing on it comes in handy,
and one or two of the swap partitions can be temporarily
formatted and used, while still allowing the system to have at
least some swap space. I tend to view disk space as exceedingly
cheap, and think therefore a lot of swap space is cheap
insurance.
--
Floyd L. Davidson <http://www.ptialaska.net/~floyd>
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:11:38 +0100
From: Spyros Tsiolis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH7 remote printing error
http://www.cups.org
s.
Henry Leparskas wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I have set up my remote printer under RH7, just I usually did under
> 6.0, 6.1, 6.2.
>
> I get the following errors in /var/spool/lpd/ps/log
>
> 2001-03-26-14:12:06.235 ibis ps: Read_write_timeout: readfd 4 closed
>
> Also, 'lpq' output yields:
>
> Printer: ps@ibis (dest [EMAIL PROTECTED])
> Queue: no printable jobs in queue
> Status: removing job 'root@ibis+612' - ABORT at 14:12:06.243
> no entries
>
> ---------
>
> I used to have no troubles with this under 6.x.
>
> My /etc/printcap file looks like:
>
> ##PRINTTOOL3## REMOTE
> ps:\
> :sd=/var/spool/lpd/ps:\
> :mx#0:\
> :sh:\
> :rm=phobos.astro.uwo.ca:\
> :rp=ps:\
> :lpd_bounce=true:
>
> Has anyone else encountered this problem?
>
> Henry Leparskas
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From: arasu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: new user in linux(redhat7.0)
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:30:25 +1000
Hi,
In linux, Redhat version 7.) I deleted the user name say groove.
Then I recreated the user in the same name. When I login
as groove, I could not get gnome desktop menu, instead I get
the following message.
"The directory /tmp/orbit-groove is not owned by the current
user, groove. Please correct the ownership of this directory."
Can any one suggest how to go about it now. thanks.
-arasu
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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:17:46 +0100
From: Spyros Tsiolis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Partition table is defect ...
I don't think you've lost your filesystem.
It's just a simple case of you panicking :-)
You might want to have a look at this.
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Hard-Disk-Upgrade/index.html
Hope this helps,
s.
Alexander Reil wrote:
>
> Hi all!
>
> The partition-table of one of my hard disks is defect. Every time i try a
> "fdisk -l /dev/hdb" the result is different to the one before. The most
> realistic output from fdisk seems to be the following:
>
> fdisk -u -l /dev/hdb
>
> Disk /dev/hdb: 128 heads, 63 sectors, 787 cylinders
> Units = sectors of 1 * 512 bytes
>
> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
> /dev/hdb1 * 63 983167 491552+ 6 FAT16
> Partition 1 has different physical/logical beginnings (non-Linux?):
> phys=(0, 0, 1) logical=(0, 1, 1)
> Partition 1 has different physical/logical endings:
> phys=(126, 32, 63) logical=(121, 117, 53)
> Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary:
> phys=(126, 32, 63) should be (126, 127, 63)
> /dev/hdb2 1024128 6338303 2657088 5 Extended
> /dev/hdb5 1024191 2048255 512032+ 6 FAT16
> /dev/hdb6 * 2048319 3031423 491552+ 6 FAT16
> /dev/hdb7 3072447 4096511 512032+ 6 FAT16
> /dev/hdb8 4096575 4817663 360544+ 83 Linux
> /dev/hdb9 4838463 5806079 483808+ 83 Linux
> /dev/hdb10 5806143 6330623 262240+ 83 Linux
>
> I am only interested in saving the data from /dev/hdb10.
> I tried the following things:
> gpart - didn't find my partitions
> partimage - same as gpart
> dd if=/dev/hdb of=/data/rescue_hdb10 bs=512 skip=5806142 count=524480
> I can't mount /data/rescue_hdb10 as ext2 filesystem, because "mount" tells
> me, there is no correct superblock.
> e2fsck tells me the same.
>
> I even searched with grep for text i know it must be in the image-file.
> Grep found it. So i think, my files are still there.
>
> So, what can i do? Is there a tool to scan for superblocks? How can i
> verify the beginning of partition /dev/hdb10? Is there really no chance to
> get my data back?
>
> I hope, someone can help me!
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Alexander Reil
>
> P.S.:
> Sorry, my english is not very well.
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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:24:52 +0100
From: Spyros Tsiolis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RPM's
You have two types of rpm packages :
binaries (executables) and sources (sources :-)
When you want to build something from source,
sometimes you need the -devel packages to do it.
An example :
You need to install package A but to install
package A you must have package B-devel installed
(just package B is not enough for the package A
to do the deps).
I have to admit that I am not good at making
people comprehend, but hey, I gave it a shot :-)
s.
K wrote:
>
> At the sites that provide all those Red Hat packages there are many that
>
> include the word "-devel-" within their names. I was hoping someone out
>
> there could tell me what these particular packages are for. Thanks.
>
> RLH
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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:41:55 +0200
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: System logging
Stephen Hui wrote:
>
> Thanks to those who suggested I get and run chkrootkit.
>
> I did, and this is what it found:
>
> Checking `rshd'... INFECTED
> Checking `tcpd'... INFECTED
> Checking `lkm'... You have 28 process hidden for ps command
> Warning: Possible LKM Trojan installed
>
> All others are "NOT TESTED", "Not vulnerable", or "Nothing found".
>
> I suppose I would want to install clean copies if rshd and tcpd, but
> this still doesn't solve my logging issue....
The only solution is to wipe out your hd(s), save some data (only text files!) and
format the entire hd(s), reinstall from scratch, then your logging problems
should be solved too.
Michael Heiming
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:29:04 +0100
From: Spyros Tsiolis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RPM's
It's a long way to go. Believe me.
The quick and dirty solution is that if you
have RH 6.x you can try aduva at :
http://www.aduva.com
It worked for me (until the point I decided to
upgrade my XFree86 v.3.3.5 to v.3.3.6 and broke
everything and couldn't be bothered anymore
and installed Mandrake 7.2 from scratch :-)
If you try to upgrade something as essential
and vital to the system as XF, then you're in
for a bumpy ride. But I strongly suggest it.
RPM is a good way of upgrading packages.
Concerning you disk capacity, when you're done
upgrading the needed packages , you can :
a. get rid of them by removing the .rpm ' s
b. burn the .rpm ' s on a CD-Rom (if you have
a cd-rom writer)
s.
KCmaniac wrote:
>
> Brian Lee wrote:
>
> > The devel packges include files like libraries or hearders. The file is
> > needed when you want to develope some software or system with that
> > package.
> > Or some packages require devel packages to be installed.
> >
>
> So does that mean I should download these packages with the rest of them? How
> does one know if it is a necessary file to download inorder for the entire
> group of packages to install. As you know some functions consist of many
> packages. Like XFree86, for example. It consists of some 46 RPMs. Included
> is an RPM called "XFree86-devel-4.0.1-1.i386.rpm". How do I know for example
> if I need this file or not inorder for the rest of them to install? I hope
> I'm not sounding to ignorant here. I am trying to upgrade my RH but I have a
> limited amount of space. I want to eliminate RPMs I won't need. All the
> "-devel-" packages comes to around 23meg. If I don't need these files, thats
> space I could use.
>
> RLH
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From: Bart Friederichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Audio CD recording problems
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:32:00 GMT
Hi,
I extracted a whole CD using cdparanoia and thus have a bunch of .wav
files. But when I try to write those on a CD, only track 1 goes well.
cdrecord complains about 'no preemp swab'. Converting them to .cdr also
doesn't work. Am I doing something wrong? The CD-R howto says to write
them all at once but shouldn't it be possible to write them one at a
time (I'd say yes, how would you make mixed CD's otherwise?).
Looks like cdparanoia creates bad .wav's.
TIA
Bart Friederichs
--
=======================================================================
The internet is a too slow way of doing things you'd never do without
it.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jan Just Keijser)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Why is "S" respawing?
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:39:09 GMT
9 out of 10 times this is a serial port getty that is not hooked up to a
proper serial port; scan your /etc/inittab file and look for something similar
to
S:12345:respawn:/bin/getty ttyS<n>
comment out this line (prepent a '#') and reboot - the message should now be
gone.
HTH,
JJK
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>When I first installed Debian on my laptop, I did so with my modem and
>ethernet cards unplugged, thinking it would make for a *less
>complicated* installation. HA. I thought I could just edit config files
>later to get everything running. But the Debian Doc Project docs are
>mostly blank sections with "do this later" penciled in and the Linux
>Doc Project docs mostly refer to Red Hat and the directions don't dync
>with the locations of Debian configuration files. I gave up trying to
>get my networking working by reading the HOWTOS, the Rute Tutorial and
>various other Linux docs and just reinstalled with everything plugged
>in.
>
> The networking now works, (Yay!), but now after booting up, every 5
>minutes I get a screenfull of text breaking in on whatever I'm doing as
>root.
>
>The text says "Usage /sbin/getty [" and then the help text you would
>get by issing the "/sbin/getty/ command with no arguments. But I get
>this multiple times, then an error line that says
>
>INIT Id "S" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
>
>So something is wrong with getty, and it has to do with Init. I've read
>the manpages for init, and related manpages and for getty and related
>manpages. And I'm stumped. Where do I look and what do I change to fix
>this respawing problem?
>
>I'm really not in the mood to reinstall the system *again* to tyr to
>fix a problem.
>
>Also, is there no place to look for detailed instructions on setting up
>Debian by hand if you had to? The installation program is all very
>fine, but I don't know what it's doing or why; the configure modules
>segment promises a page of description on each module so you can decide
>whether to install it, but doesn't deliver. You have to *guess* what
>something does and whether you need it.
>
===========================
JJK / Jan Just Keijser
Unix/Linux Systems Engineer
smtp: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
flames > /dev/null 2>&1
===========================
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From: Kenneth Mokkelbost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RPM's
Date: 27 Mar 2001 11:40:55 +0200
KCmaniac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Brian Lee wrote:
>
> > The devel packges include files like libraries or hearders. The file is
> > needed when you want to develope some software or system with that
> > package.
> > Or some packages require devel packages to be installed.
> >
>
> So does that mean I should download these packages with the rest of them? How
> does one know if it is a necessary file to download inorder for the entire
> group of packages to install. As you know some functions consist of many
> packages. Like XFree86, for example. It consists of some 46 RPMs. Included
> is an RPM called "XFree86-devel-4.0.1-1.i386.rpm". How do I know for example
> if I need this file or not inorder for the rest of them to install? I hope
> I'm not sounding to ignorant here. I am trying to upgrade my RH but I have a
> limited amount of space. I want to eliminate RPMs I won't need. All the
> "-devel-" packages comes to around 23meg. If I don't need these files, thats
> space I could use.
>
> RLH
You might do it this way. Don't download devel-packages and install the
other ones you need/want. If you don't get an error saying
"...needs something-devel-something" it's ok, else you download those rpms
the error message says.
Beware you might have software that depends on devel-packages.
Personally I would recommend you to update all old packages on your system,
not only some of them. You do this with the -F switch (-U can also be used,
but this will install if no previous version is found. -F only updates).
Check your rpm-db for which packages you have today. Then you will have some
idea of which one you need to download.
Kenneth
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From: "Chimpsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: setting up for Redhat 6.2
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:45:41 GMT
Hi y'all,
wondering if anyone could help me out with some problems... I have linux
installed on a DOS FAT partition so I have to boot into every time... now
everything runs except for the sound, where would I go to find the sound
script to setup? and also how would I configure my network card? and finally
where would I go to change the icons on my Window X system because they are
way too big?......sorry those were a lot of questions at once but if anyone
could help me out with at least one I will be jumping for joy....
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From: "Chimpsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: sorry I must be in the dark ages everyone has RH 7.0 NT
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:51:08 GMT
NT
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