Linux-Misc Digest #463, Volume #27               Tue, 27 Mar 01 21:13:02 EST

Contents:
  Re: mem and swap problem ("Taavi Hein")
  Re: The death of MS Office? (Mark Watson)
  Re: new user in linux(redhat7.0) (arasu)
  Re: RH7 remote printing error (arasu)
  Re: The death of MS Office? ("Harlan Grove")
  Re: real size of a file in a filesystem ... (peter pilsl)
  PAM_pwdb errors in authenticating a new user (Bryant Baecht)
  Getting my HP DeskJet 820Cse to work (Daniel Bostwick)
  Re: Macromedia Flash - development tools, support in community etc. (Dave Phillips)
  Re: Macromedia Flash - development tools, support in community etc. ("J�rgen 
Schneider")
  Re: PAM_pwdb errors in authenticating a new user (Dean Thompson)
  Re: Partitions and Sizes (Jason Green)
  Re: ICOP 1800 4 port  rs232 (Bob Hauck)
  chroot for ssh and ftp logins? (Brian Lee)
  Re: mem and swap problem (Ryengoth)
  QT install problem ("Collin Borrlewyn")
  Re: mem and swap problem (Basil Chupin)
  Re: ALSA and Crystal Semiconductor CODECS: CS4237B and Suse 7.0 (Christopher W. 
Aiken)
  Re: Audio CD recording problems (Dances With Crows)
  Cannot start mozilla without terminal? ("Flacco")
  Re: Debian 3 - ETP 0 (David DeLaney)
  bash: what shell variable to set to search for shared libraries? ("P. Eric Chi")
  after Pan newsreader installed....... ("Glitch")
  bash: what shell variable to set to search for shared libraries ("P. Eric Chi")

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From: "Taavi Hein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.misc,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc,linux.support.commercial,redhat.config,redhat.general
Subject: Re: mem and swap problem
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 00:22:43 +0300


"Gabor Takacs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
: Instead of trying to set it to 256M try for a few hundres k less.

And why, exactly?

--
Taavi Hein - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Registered Linux user #209546
Registered Linux machine #97395



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From: Mark Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The death of MS Office?
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 23:29:59 GMT

I will "wade in" on this one :-)

re: Word fastsave: truly an abomination!
I use Word a lot (I have written 12 books),
and I believe that the fastsave option ought
to be chucked out! File sizes grow, making
backups larger than they need to be, and I
never quite trust fastsaves, either (no hard
evidence though).

To make matters worse, I am working on a
commercial product (in Java) that needs to
be able to skim text from Word, RTF, PDF,
HTML, etc. files.  You guessed it!! The
fastsave files are driving me nuts :-(
I think that I may not support them.

BYW, I also like StarOffice 5.2 a lot, and
word processing under Linux is just about
as nice as Windows 2000/Word 2000.  I have
used the StarOffice drawing program for all
the technical figures in my last three books;
I think that the drawing program is very good.

-Mark

-- Mark Watson
-- Java consulting, Open Source and Content: www.markwatson.com
-- Commercial software: www.knowledgebooks.com


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From: arasu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: new user in linux(redhat7.0)
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 09:36:22 +1000

Chris Coyle wrote:

> "arasu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Hi,
> >
> >  In linux, Redhat version 7.) I deleted the user name say groove.
> > Then I recreated the user in the same name. When I login
> > as groove, I could not get gnome desktop menu, instead I get
> > the following message.
> >
> > "The directory /tmp/orbit-groove is not owned by the current
> > user, groove. Please correct the ownership of this directory."
> >
> > Can any one suggest how to go about it now. thanks.
> >
> > -arasu
> >
>
> arasu,
> I think you can just remove it.
> gnome will recreate it if/when it is needed.
> You probably need to be root to remove it.

Chris,

 Thankyou very much. I deleted the directory tmp/orbit-groove, and it works now.
It has recreated tmp/orbit-groove directory. Now back to normal. good on you,
and others who suggested the same thing.  Kind regards.

-arasu


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From: arasu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH7 remote printing error
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 09:48:36 +1000

Henry Leparskas wrote:

> Hi,
>     I have set up my remote printer under RH7, just I usually did under
> 6.0, 6.1, 6.2.
>
> I get the following errors in /var/spool/lpd/ps/log
>
> 2001-03-26-14:12:06.235 ibis ps: Read_write_timeout: readfd 4 closed
>
> Also, 'lpq' output yields:
>
> Printer: ps@ibis (dest [EMAIL PROTECTED])
>  Queue: no printable jobs in queue
>  Status: removing job 'root@ibis+612' - ABORT at 14:12:06.243
> no entries
>
> ---------
>
> I used to have no troubles with this under 6.x.
>
> My /etc/printcap file looks like:
>
> ##PRINTTOOL3## REMOTE
> ps:\
>         :sd=/var/spool/lpd/ps:\
>         :mx#0:\
>         :sh:\
>         :rm=phobos.astro.uwo.ca:\
>         :rp=ps:\
>         :lpd_bounce=true:
>
> Has anyone else encountered this problem?
>
>     Henry Leparskas

I had faced similar problem, but I can only explain what the expert did
here for me.
logged as root user, then system->printertool->edit

In the edit menu (what is there in my computer)

Names: lp

Spool directory  /var/spool/lpd/laserjet5m

(laserjet5m being the type of the printer)

Hostname of the printer: (what ever the tcp number)

Priner name: laserjet5m

Username:

Pwd :

Inputfileter: /usr/lib/rhs/rhs-printfilters//smbprint



Hope this info may help you, I am not expert, but I faced similar problem
and set. good luck,

-arasu


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From: "Harlan Grove" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The death of MS Office?
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 23:53:20 GMT

Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
...
>They sure changed the Word format. They now permit FastSave which most
>other office suites cannot deal with. To add insult to injury, the
>fast save is no faster than the slow save for medium and small sized
>documents, what most people produce. Fast Save should surely not have
>been the default, and they should have emphasized to the users never
>to distribute anything in FastSave format. But in their impertinant
>arrogance, they did not do that.

I'm biased. I use Excel daily, but Word no more than once a quarter for
composing and editing, and I save my files in RTF format. I think I use
Applix's wordprocessor more than Word these days.

There are good reasons why Excel is a market leader and deserves to be (not
least being the execrable performance of Lotus Development Corp). Word has
less going for it vs the competition.



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From: peter pilsl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: real size of a file in a filesystem ...
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 01:55:47 +0200

In article <99qigf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> In my experience of making ISO images, I never have more than 500k of
> overhead.  I normally use the output of du and add 500k to it to do
> the estimate.  It comes very close.  If I have to add more, I just
> recreate the ISO file.  It does not take long to regenerate an ISO
> image.  I use a slow machine (Sparc5 85MHz cpu).  It takes about 12-14
> minutes to make an 650MB ISO image.  Don't forget 650MB is 681574400
> bytes and 700MB is 734003200 bytes.  If your cpu is faster than mine,
> you can afford to recreate as often as you need.
> 

I have 24 gigs of files, seperated in about 80.000 files from 1k to 500M. 
I want to create 38 iso-images that holds all this files to burn it on cd.
If I just copy them just as the files come in, I would need much more 
cd's, so I need to find out a perfect compiliation.
For this I want to take a file, calculate the exact size it will have in 
the iso-image and 'throw' it in the iso-image it fits best. (actually I 
create a symlink and run later mkisofs)

So du is no help for my task. And when adding 12.000 files in one iso-
image the overhead is much greater.

thnx,
peter


-- 
pilsl@
goldfisch.at

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bryant Baecht)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: PAM_pwdb errors in authenticating a new user
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 23:57:07 GMT

Hi all,
     All at once I am having problems with RH 6.2 in trying to add users and 
have them be able to access the system via telnet, etc.  I created the user 
the same way I always do through vipw and then create the homedirectory and 
set the ownership to the new user I created.  I am trying to telnet to the 
same box and I get a login prompt.  I try to enter the new user I created, and 

it won't let me signon.  The error in the messages file is:

Mar 27 16:39:27 ds1 PAM_pwdb[1227]: get passwd; pwdb: request not recognized
Mar 27 16:39:28 ds1 login[1227]: FAILED LOGIN 1 FROM 
ds1.savethetransporters.org FOR bbaecht, Authentication service cannot 
retrieve authentication info.
Mar 27 16:39:30 ds1 inetd[595]: pid 1226: exit status 1

This just started happening last night.  I have since re-installed as there is 

very little on this box, and I am still getting the same error message.  What 
is going on with PAM?  TIA,

Bryant

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From: Daniel Bostwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Getting my HP DeskJet 820Cse to work
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:47:06 -0500

Hi,
    My problem is that I cannot get my HP DeskJet 820Cse to work under Linux. I
have Mandrake 7.2 running kernel version 2.2.15. I am able to get a networked
printer to work but not this one. I have tried they included print tool Printer
Drake and the only driver that gets any acivity out of my printer is a pnm2ppa
driver, and that causes the lights to blink. I have tried to run pdq but have
not been able to understand it. Any help would be appriciated.
                                            Thanks,
                                                12-year old Linux Enthusiast

=========================================================
1 Linux Box
1 Dual Boot
1 Winders Box

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From: Dave Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Macromedia Flash - development tools, support in community etc.
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:28:11 -0500

Thomas Weholt wrote:

> I'm just doing some research on Macromedia FLASH ( swf );
> 
> 1. What development tools are available for linux users?
> 2. What are the views on flash among linux users?
> 
> Any info, opinions, flames etc. related to flash are welcome

See this article for a few words about it:

        http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/linux/2001/03/23/streaming_media.html

I did find a few tools for Flash but no complete development
environments. I must add though that the Linux Flash plugin works
beautifully in my Netscape 4.76.

Best regards,

== Dave Phillips

        The Book Of Linux Music & Sound at http://www.nostarch.com/lms.htm
        The Linux Soundapps Site at http://sound.condorow.net

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From: "J�rgen Schneider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
no.it.os.unix.linux.diverse,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Macromedia Flash - development tools, support in community etc.
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 02:17:32 +0200

I'm a newbie on Linux but I'm also reading the interrsting newsgroups on
Linux.
I have heard about a programm named 'swish' which is also able to create
swf files. I run this under windoof, but I know that the version for Linux
is also available.
So serach for 'swish'

Greetings from Odenwald, Germany
J�rgen
www.witchcraft.de



Thomas Weholt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
Aa_v6.1801$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Hi,
>
> I'm just doing some research on Macromedia FLASH ( swf );
>
> 1. What development tools are available for linux users?
> 2. What are the views on flash among linux users?
>
> Any info, opinions, flames etc. related to flash are welcome
>
> Best regards,
> Thomas
>
>



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From: Dean Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: PAM_pwdb errors in authenticating a new user
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:19:04 +1000


Hi Bryant,

>All at once I am having problems with RH 6.2 in trying to add users and
>have them be able to access the system via telnet, etc.  I created the user
>the same way I always do through vipw and then create the homedirectory and
>set the ownership to the new user I created.  I am trying to telnet to the
>same box and I get a login prompt.  I try to enter the new user I created, 
>and it won't let me signon.  The error in the messages file is:
> 
> Mar 27 16:39:27 ds1 PAM_pwdb[1227]: get passwd; pwdb: request not recognized
> Mar 27 16:39:28 ds1 login[1227]: FAILED LOGIN 1 FROM
> ds1.savethetransporters.org FOR bbaecht, Authentication service cannot
> retrieve authentication info.
> Mar 27 16:39:30 ds1 inetd[595]: pid 1226: exit status 1

Hmm, it looks like your SMB server is not responding to the password
authentication process at all.  Someone hasn't upgraded the SMB server which
you are using to authenticate their passwords.  Additionally, you have run
things like "pwconv" to generate the appropriate shadow password entries, and
they locked with "*"'s I presume.

Failing that, I would check to make sure that you can contact and still talk
to the SMB server which is mentioned in your configuration file.  I have had
this problem before, and it turned out that SMB server was being blocked by a
firewall device and hence we had to punch holes into the firewall to let the
authentication traffic through.

 This just started happening last night.  I have since re-installed as there 
> is very little on this box, and I am still getting the same error message.  
> What is going on with PAM?  TIA,

I think I would be looking around to make sure that nothing else changed with
the network last night (either on the SMB server) or on your machine.

See ya

Dean Thompson

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+----------------------------+--------------------------------------------+

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From: Jason Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Partitions and Sizes
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 23:24:01 +0100

Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   if the intent to begin with is to use symlinks,
> a conservative in sizing partitions can be taken (with some
> exceptions), and of course several more partitions than appears
> necessary can be used to advantage.

>   Remaining disk space, or new disk space if
> another is added, are divided into /u1, /u2, /u3, /u4, etc.
> 
> I typically make /home/floyd a symlink to something like
> /u4/floyd (and do the same for any other user that has
> significant disk requirements), and allow that entire partition
> to be used by a single user.

I don't quite follow the logic in this.  That is, while I understand the
logic in splitting the disk into partitions, and even giving over a whole
partition to one user, I don't see how using symlinks makes any practical
difference.

For the example you gave, why wouldn't you simply keep /home/floyd as a
mount point, and mount the partition there rather than at /u4?

You still need to decide on a partition size, and you still need to
transfer the contents onto the new partition.  And on top if that, you
fill the root directory with mount points.

The only reason I can think of is the order of mounting partitions from
/etc/fstab becomes important.  

(I just know you are going to say the answer is in what I snipped ;-)

> The reason for using three swap partitions is that occasionally
> a nice small clean partition with nothing on it comes in handy,
> and one or two of the swap partitions can be temporarily
> formatted and used, while still allowing the system to have at
> least some swap space.

This is a useful tip, and something I'll bear in mind next time I have to
partition a disk - thanks.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: ICOP 1800 4 port  rs232
Reply-To: bobh = haucks dot org
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 00:43:57 GMT

On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:22:38 +0200, Jens Frederik Dalsgaard Nielsen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I have a pc104 module from ICOP:
>  4 * rs232 (16550)
>  shared IRQ
>
>But I am missing a linux driver, and cant find it anywhere :-(

The standard serial driver supports a number of multi-port cards.  I
don't know about that one specifically, but you might try building a
kernel and enabling "Extended Dumb Serial Support" and "Sharing serial
interrupts".  Works for Boca and others that are based on 16550's with
shared IRQ.

You may have to enable "Many Serial Ports" and create some new device
nodes if these aren't at the standard ttyS0-3 IO ports (e.g. Boca uses
ttyS16-23).

Also, there's a Boca mini-HOWTO on linuxdoc.org that may be helpful even
though you don't have that exact card.

-- 
 -| Bob Hauck
 -| To Whom You Are Speaking
 -| http://www.haucks.org/

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From: Brian Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: chroot for ssh and ftp logins?
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 00:59:17 GMT

Hi,

I want to add many users on my RH Linux box. I want to set chroot for
all the users. I mean that the user's can't cd up to the top directory
which I set. I want to set it in both ssh and ftp.

Sorry for short English and I'm wainting for help.

-- 
Brian Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* To reply via email, replace ``.nospam'' to ``.com'' from 
the reply address.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ryengoth)
Crossposted-To: 
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.misc,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc,linux.support.commercial,redhat.config,redhat.general
Subject: Re: mem and swap problem
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 00:51:39 GMT


 Try doing a "linux mem=256M" at boot, then rerun lilo when you get
to a bash prompt. That'll enforce the 256M limit.
  As far as swap, you'll need to remove space from another partition
and add it to the swap. Your other option is to reinstall, making sure
that lilo knows 256M is the mem limit, before the setup program runs.
Otherwise,, it's all manual fdisk and re-formatting to change your
swap partition.
  (I'd just add another hard drive and make it swap. Reclaim your old
swap parition as usable ext2 space)

    Ryengoth
 
On Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:27:07 -0600, "Sharkster"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Im running RH 7 on a PII 300 with 256 meg ram. The system is only
>recognizing 64 meg and has already adjusted the swap accordingly.
>I have already edited the lilo.conf with the " append="mem=256M". Ive run
>the LILO and rebooted. The system is still only recognizing 64 meg.
>Did I miss something in there and what was it. How can I adjust my swap to
>match the 256m.
>
>Sharkster
>61517946
>
>
>


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From: "Collin Borrlewyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: QT install problem
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 20:26:09 -0500

I don't know if this is the appropriate place to ask (since this is a linux
newsgroup, and not a QT newsgroup) but I don't know where else to look, so
here I ask...

In short, before installing QT I need to set some environment variables, but
I don't know to what.

In length:
I have a copy of Red Hat 5.2, which I got from a book in my local library.
This is currently all I can afford, since I haven't got the money to
purchace a copy or the bandwidth to download something better. I installed
RH5 on an old system, and have been having a grand old time. After a while I
got a book titled Mastering Unix out of the library for help with some
configuration (all of which has worked beautifully). This new book had a CD
with it containing many things, including complete source for KDE (and QT)
and Gnome. So, somewhere along I got the idea into my head that I'd install
KDE. The process seemed fairly straightforward, and the book had
instructions (of sorts) on what to do. But it assumed QT was already
installed, so I was on my own for that. The trouble is that when I get to
the 'make' step, it spits out errors amounting to needing environment
variables LD_LIBRARY_PATH, LIBRARY_PATH, and CPLUS_INCLUDE_PATH to be set.
And they are not. While the other item that needed to be set (MANPATH) I
mannaged to figured out, I don't know where to begin on these others.

So... what should such variables be set to? Why are they not set already?
And, if this is not a good place, where do I ask?

~Collin



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From: Basil Chupin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.misc,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc,linux.support.commercial,redhat.config,redhat.general
Subject: Re: mem and swap problem
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 11:20:19 +1000

Sharkster wrote:

> Im running RH 7 on a PII 300 with 256 meg ram. The system is only
> recognizing 64 meg and has already adjusted the swap accordingly.
> I have already edited the lilo.conf with the " append="mem=256M". Ive run
> the LILO and rebooted. The system is still only recognizing 64 meg.
> Did I miss something in there and what was it. How can I adjust my swap to
> match the 256m.
>
> Sharkster
> 61517946

The very important bit here is that there has to be a space before the 'mem='
in the append statement. The statement should read:

append=" mem=256M"
              ^
          space





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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher W. Aiken)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: ALSA and Crystal Semiconductor CODECS: CS4237B and Suse 7.0
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 01:44:48 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 21:48:27 GMT, Keith Marjerison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
:)1st, I'm a Linux newbe, so go eazy. How do I go about getting Suse to
:)recognize my TidalWave128 ISA sound card. It is PnP and the 'isadump' utility
:)sees the card but when I try and use 'YaST2' to install 'Generic' support for
:)the 'CS42*' and the program stops saying the 'kernel' does not support it.
:)What am I doing wrong? What is a good reference for Linux ? i.e. Linux
:)Unleashed? Thanks for any help in advance.
:)/>Keith Marjerison
:)/>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
:)
:)

I got my CS4232 up and running by adding the following lines
to my /etc/rc.d/boot.local file. The run the boot.local file
or reboot.

echo "Setup CS4232 Sound"
modprobe soundcore
modprobe sound
modprobe ad1848
modprobe uart401
modprobe cs4232 io=0x530 irq=7 dma=1 dma2=3 mpuio=0x330 mpuirq=9                

Just adjust the data to fit your system.

--
Christopher W. Aiken
Scenery Hill, Pa, USA
chris at cwaiken dot com
www.cwaiken.com
SuSE 7.1 Professional Linux


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Audio CD recording problems
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 28 Mar 2001 01:41:32 GMT

On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:33:27 GMT, Bart Friederichs staggered into the
Black Sun and said:
>Federico Bravo wrote:
>> 
>> You could make a multi-session CD-R but I wouldn't see the
>> point of it. 
>
>Yeah, well. When you want to add some extra later, but I omitted the
>-multi flag to cdrecord when I recorded track1, so...
>
>> cdrecord -v speed=4 dev=0,0,0 -audio "track*.wav"
>Hmm, well yes, only the "track*.wav" didn't work, but an enumeration of
>the .wav files did. Its burning now ;))
>
>Too bad I have a single-session CD with just one track of 4 mins on it
>now. But hey, there are worse things in the world (like Windows).

Furrfu, doesn't anyone read man pages anymore?

cdrecord -v speed=4 dev=0,0,0 -audio -nofix track01.wav
  (track finishes, you decide to wait a while before doing--)
cdrecord -v speed=4 dev=0,0,0 -audio -nofix track02.wav
  (repeat for tracks 3..99, when you're done, do)
cdrecord -v speed=4 dev=0,0,0 -fix

The last step is fairly important; most Audio CD players cannot play an
unfixated disc, though a few can.  Very few audio CD players can handle
multisession discs, so a neat trick is to burn a multisession disc with
1..98 audio tracks on the first session and one data track on the second
session which contains MP3s of the audio tracks, scanned liner notes,
interviews with the band....

-- 
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin /  Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com     /   Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/    I hit a seg fault....

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From: "Flacco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Cannot start mozilla without terminal?
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 01:57:00 GMT

I've created a launcher for Mozilla in my GNOME panel.  If I have the
"Run in terminal" checkbox turned off, Mozilla launches and then
immediately exits.  If I have the "Run in terminal" turned on, Mozilla
runs, but I have that pesky terminal window floating around.

Anyone ideas what the problem might be?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David DeLaney)
Crossposted-To: alt.religion.kibology
Subject: Re: Debian 3 - ETP 0
Date: 27 Mar 2001 22:01:47 -0500

E Teflon Piano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>As I was going through the third installation, I had the insight that
>Nethack is really an aptitude test for being a Linux Administrator.

...he's _onto_ us.

>And I'm only on Dungeon
>Level *FIVE!* With no comestibles, no wands, a cursed spellbook of
>Linux Administration and a cat that keeps dragging in irate shopkeepers
>demanding I pay for killing and eating an inittab that was picking my pocket.

This is one of the better analogies I've seen, actually. (The online man pages,
when shaken at the right frequency, -ought- to eventually give you the
answers you need - but as you note the problem is that the bits fall out only
one by one...)

>All you guys who bought Red Hat stock at the top take note. If you want
>to get your money back out of that investment, you better haunt the
>newsgroups. And say something more helpful than "Read the HOWTO."

Well, at least tell them where in the HOWTO to start reading..

Dave "the tech support _I_ give online is much better than that" DeLaney

PS: Newsgroup linux.debian.user is non-existent. Not surprised...
-- 
\/David DeLaney posting from [EMAIL PROTECTED] "It's not the pot that grows the flower
It's not the clock that slows the hour  The definition's plain for anyone to see
Love is all it takes to make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK>
http://panacea.phys.utk.edu/~dbd/ - net.legends FAQ/ I WUV you in all CAPS! --K.

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From: "P. Eric Chi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: bash: what shell variable to set to search for shared libraries?
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:05:07 -0800

Hi,

In csh, we can "setenv LD_LIBRARY_PATH ..." to set the path to search for
shared libraries. What shell variable should I set in bash? Thanks very
much,

Eric.




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From: "Glitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: after Pan newsreader installed.......
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 21:11:11 -0500

I downlaoded glib/gtk 1.2.8 , after already having glib/gtk 1.2.6
installed, b/c I needed the newer versions for Pan 0.9.6.

I program in GTK and I wanted to make sure my programs still worked ok
with the new version of GTK installed.  I compiled one of my programs
again and it compiled just fine, but I tried to execute it and got
warnings.

This is the warning:
Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate loadable module in module_path: "libpixmap.so"

My program still loads fine but all the theme stuff is missing. Basically
the window is plain colored b/c the library above coudln't be found.
HOwever the library above does exist on the system.  It's at:

/usr/lib/gtk/themes/engines/libpixmap.so

This is the location of the old GTK, 1.2.6. I checked in the directory
that the new GTK is in but I don't have the libpixmap.so file.  So what
can i do to get the new GTK to see the old lib file?  Or should I do
something else to get my GTK programs to be able to be affected by my
current theme?

THanks a bunch
brandon

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From: "P. Eric Chi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: bash: what shell variable to set to search for shared libraries
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:08:46 -0800

Hi,


In csh, we can "setenv LD_LIBRARY_PATH ..." to set the path to search for
shared libraries. What shell variable should I set in bash? Thanks very
much,


Eric.




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