Linux-Misc Digest #478, Volume #27 Thu, 29 Mar 01 18:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: mem and swap problem ("Taavi Hein")
Re: Turn on NumLock by default in future XFree86 ! ! ! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: jetdirect and linux. (Stefano Ghirlanda)
Re: netscape and applets (Jean-David Beyer)
Re: real size of a file in a filesystem ... (James Pearson)
Re: c++ keyboard readout (Jean-David Beyer)
Re: Windows ME and Windows 98 and Linux comp. (Man)
Re: c++ keyboard readout (Juergen Heinzl)
Re: The differences between Ash and Bash (Toby Haynes)
Re: Windows ME and Windows 98 and Linux comp. ("Dan Forsythe")
Re: Windows ME and Windows 98 and Linux comp. (ingatz)
Re: game rpms for Redhat-6.2 (Vilmos Soti)
Re: tar backup via NFS excluding NFS mount point (Scrumpy)
transparant PROXY. (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9?= Paulsberg)
Re: slave ypserv ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Looking for XFree86-4.0.x.rpm for Redhat 6.x Linux box? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Windows ME and Windows 98 and Linux comp. ("Dan Forsythe")
Re: Caldera laptop install. gurrr (Jacob Kristensen)
Re: Windows ME and Windows 98 and Linux comp. (Steve Lamb)
Re "Mahogany":Full-featured, reliable POP-mail client for Linux? (Pyang444)
authenticating proxy? (Steve Bui)
message in shell ("fabienne hadkova")
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From: "Taavi Hein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.misc,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc,linux.support.commercial,redhat.config,redhat.general
Subject: Re: mem and swap problem
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 23:40:14 +0300
"Gabor Takacs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
: I read something about this on a linux.redhat newsgroup. Apparently some
: portion of the RAM is used for something else (store a copy of BIOS I
: think). Because of this, you don't have the entire 128M. I don't
: remember the exact number.
Still, suppose, you specified a number in boot options, Linux is gonna
think, that's how much you got, right? Then, it uses a few kB for smth (why
is a copy of bios necessary for Linux?), if you specified a few kB less, it
would use the few kB for smth, but you'd have twice less space, than when
specifying the correct value [if I'm not making any sense ... just disregard
the letter]
--
Taavi Hein - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Registered Linux user #209546
Registered Linux machine #97395
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Turn on NumLock by default in future XFree86 ! ! !
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:37:17 GMT
Darrell Rudmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Seven of Nine"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> It is truely amazing that the developers of XFree86 have not thought
>> this through. In Windows, the NumLock is turned on and the LED is lit by
>> default upon boot, which is the way it should be. In GNU/Linux, this
> Yes, this is annoying. As a Windows user trying to using Linux as a
> primary desktop OS, at least a prompt during installation or an option in
> a control panel would be nice.
> I've never seen anyone use the number pad for anything other than entering
> numbers. I realize some folks don't, but not the majority.
And you have proof to back up that idiotic statement?
Adam
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From: Stefano Ghirlanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: jetdirect and linux.
Date: 29 Mar 2001 22:41:20 +0200
"Kenny@BUI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> hello guys, have any of you worked with hp jetdirect printers being
> shared through linux or samba?
Yes man, hp 4050n, where the n means it has its own ethernet card,
YMMV. It was as simple as this:
$ cat /etc/printcap
lp:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\
:rm=130.237.191.161:\
:rp=raw:
:mx#0:\
:sh:\
:lp=/dev/null:
(this for a networked printer). The nice thing is that you can then
share this printer simply via samba, just install the driver from hp's
site. The printer apparently understands whether you send it
PostSCript of the native language so you don't even need separate
printer queues.
Don't bother installing the adminisration stuff on the windows
machines, it's huge and require times if you want to configure many
windows boxes. Better go for the driver only. You can configure the
printer directly with telnet. There was an administration tool for
unix also but didn't work for me. Don't know whether the telnet
interface has all the features though - but I don't need more.
So my reasoning is:
1) printer can be either attached on the net or on a unix
machine. Don't know about attaching it to a windows machine.
2) printer shared via samba (using one unix machine as a fake printer
server if the printer is on the net) - install only driver on win
machines, don't need any special software since you use windows'
native sharing.
3) unix clients can either print via the fake server or directly to
the printer (same printcap as above on all unix machines, or just
substitute the server's IP).
--
Stefano - Hodie quarto Kalendas Apriles MMI est
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: netscape and applets
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:51:01 -0500
David Mehringer wrote:
>
> Am running netscape 4.76 (had the same problem with 4.75). Sometimes, when
> running applets which normally have no problems, netscape sucks all the CPU
> time and the only way I can figure out how to deal with it is to kill it
> with signal 9. Anyone know a fix for this? Anyone tried Netscape 6?
> Thanks
>
It looks to me (I run Netscape 4.76 on VA Linux Systems 6.2.3) as
though Netscape does this when a news server just goes dead. Netscape
cannot deal rationally with a query to which it gets no reply, at
least sometimes. I find this happens almost entirely when reading from
my ISP's news server.
I can sometimes fix things by hanging up my dial-up Internet link;
sometimes, Netscape complains about this, and that breaks it free. But
by the time it is hogging an entire CPU, only a kill -9 will fix it.
I tried Netscape 6.0 for about a 1/2 hour, and it sucks worse than the
stuff my Windows/AOL friends get. I uninstalled it right away.
--
.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org
^^-^^ 3:45pm up 1 day, 5:58, 4 users, load average: 3.21, 3.31, 3.28
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From: James Pearson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: real size of a file in a filesystem ...
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:54:01 +0100
peter pilsl wrote:
>
> In article <99qigf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> > In my experience of making ISO images, I never have more than 500k of
> > overhead. I normally use the output of du and add 500k to it to do
> > the estimate. It comes very close. If I have to add more, I just
> > recreate the ISO file. It does not take long to regenerate an ISO
> > image. I use a slow machine (Sparc5 85MHz cpu). It takes about 12-14
> > minutes to make an 650MB ISO image. Don't forget 650MB is 681574400
> > bytes and 700MB is 734003200 bytes. If your cpu is faster than mine,
> > you can afford to recreate as often as you need.
> >
>
> I have 24 gigs of files, seperated in about 80.000 files from 1k to 500M.
> I want to create 38 iso-images that holds all this files to burn it on cd.
> If I just copy them just as the files come in, I would need much more
> cd's, so I need to find out a perfect compiliation.
> For this I want to take a file, calculate the exact size it will have in
> the iso-image and 'throw' it in the iso-image it fits best. (actually I
> create a symlink and run later mkisofs)
>
> So du is no help for my task. And when adding 12.000 files in one iso-
> image the overhead is much greater.
>
The space occupied by each file is the file size rounded up to a
multiple of 2048 bytes.
It is much harder to estimate the space taken by the directory entries -
although it
is unlikely to be more than 1 or 2% of the whole CD (even with 12000
files). The only way to get the exact size is to run mkisofs with the
-print-size option.
There is something called "cdburn" which is a wrapper to
mkisofs/cdrecord that designed to store data on multiple CDs. I've never
used it, but it may help.
James Pearson
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: c++ keyboard readout
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:23:19 -0500
Stefano Ghirlanda wrote:
>
> Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Experimental Data wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi!
> > > In a c++ programme I wish to read the keyboard.
>
> > > I was told it really was a cuestion about the os - although I dont
> > > really know why. I use RH 6.2 and g++ to compile. Maybe one of you
> > > know... Ivan
> >
> > It really has next to nothing to do with the OS.
>
> Well, none of the methods you suggested will work on non-UNIX-like
> OSs.
You are absolutely right about that.
I assumed he was referring to a UNIX-like OS because he posted to
comp.os.linux.misc and not to comp.lang.c++.
>
> > ioctl(2), tty(4), and especially termios(3)
>
> > . It is no fun, but I have
> > done a lot of things with this.
>
> Maybe ncurses is an option.
>
> --
> Stefano - Hodie quarto Kalendas Apriles MMI est
--
.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org
^^-^^ 4:20pm up 1 day, 6:33, 3 users, load average: 3.30, 3.30, 3.33
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From: Man
Crossposted-To: alt.windows-me,alt.windows98,comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Subject: Re: Windows ME and Windows 98 and Linux comp.
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:43:18 -0500
On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:25:28 -0500, "Dan Forsythe"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Linux is free if your time is worth nothing" - - Author unknown, but
>enlightened.
I think the quote belongs to Jamie Zawinski. He's the guy who wrote
the Unix version of Netscape back in the day. So if you implying that
this is a windows user your wrong. He's also responsible for Lucid
Emacs a X version of EMACS.
MAN________________________________________________
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: c++ keyboard readout
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:48:16 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Experimental Data wrote:
>Hi!
> In a c++ programme I wish to read the keyboard. More precisely I
>want to make a command in a loop, that does like std::cin>>, but instead
>of stopping and waiting for a line and [return] I want the loop to be
>continued unaffected until sombody presses, say "s".
[-]
You'd going to burn quite some CPU cycles by doing it that way 8)
> I was told it really was a cuestion about the os - although I dont
>really know why. I use RH 6.2 and g++ to compile. Maybe one of you
>know...
[-]
If you're stuck, send me an email but info libc -- "Node: Noncanon
Example" and friends should be helpful.
You can find various other examples, but since dejanews is down ...
Ta',
Juergen
--
\ Real name : Juergen Heinzl \ no flames /
\ EMail Private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ send money instead /
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From: Toby Haynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: The differences between Ash and Bash
Date: 29 Mar 2001 16:37:52 -0500
On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
*
> Jonathan Kamens wrote:
>
>> (Removed bogus "comp.os.linux.development" newsgroup from Newsgroups
>> line.)
>>
>> Ash does not have most of the functionality that bash has. It's
>> pretty much a pared-down Bourne shell, whereas bash has all kinds of
>> functionality which didn't exist in the original Bourne shell.
>>
> What about tcsh?
I'd be careful about making comparisons between tcsh and bash. Long and bitter
flame wars have flared up over posts with just mentioned both in the same post,
let alone asked for a reasoned argument in favour of one or the other :-)
That said, I use tcsh for my interactive shell and bash for scripting :-)
Mainly because tcsh has smart completion (i.e. totally customizable, so if you
have a program which has long wordy switches, you can add completion for the
switches as well as the command name, subsequent arguments (be they files,
numbers, process IDs, etc.). I never found a version of bash which did this -
completion in bash is based on filename, hostname, username, variables,
dependent on leading characters or direct request for a particular style of
completion.
tcsh is a mess for scripting though and should only be used for simple tasks.
As far as comparitive size
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 451964 Oct 3 13:26 /bin/bash
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 281212 Nov 14 04:21 /bin/tcsh
Cheers,
Toby Haynes
--
Toby Haynes
The views and opinions expressed in this message are my own, and do
not necessarily reflect those of IBM Canada.
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From: "Dan Forsythe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.windows-me,alt.windows98,comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Subject: Re: Windows ME and Windows 98 and Linux comp.
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:53:32 -0500
So a professional Unix person made the comment?
Doesn't matter who said it, it's a truth. The fact that a Unix person came
up with it adds even more credence to the position.
<Man> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:25:28 -0500, "Dan Forsythe"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >"Linux is free if your time is worth nothing" - - Author unknown, but
> >enlightened.
>
> I think the quote belongs to Jamie Zawinski. He's the guy who wrote
> the Unix version of Netscape back in the day. So if you implying that
> this is a windows user your wrong. He's also responsible for Lucid
> Emacs a X version of EMACS.
>
>
> MAN________________________________________________
>
>
>
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From: ingatz
Crossposted-To: alt.windows-me,alt.windows98,comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Subject: Re: Windows ME and Windows 98 and Linux comp.
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:58:23 -0500
On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:53:32 -0500, "Dan Forsythe"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Doesn't matter who said it, it's a truth. The fact that a Unix person came
>up with it adds even more credence to the position.
So Linux isn't free So What! Is Windows any better? No!
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Subject: Re: game rpms for Redhat-6.2
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 22:17:32 GMT
Ish Rattan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> It is a little off-topic. Is thre a site of games under X for
> Redhat Linux? There are none in the distribution (6.2) and it seems
> Debian seems to have quite few games on their site too. BTW is it possible
> to install .deb packages under RedHat??
There is a tool called "alien" for converting between .deb and .rpm.
I have never used it so don't ask me about it.
As of game site. Did you look at http://www.rpmfind.net?
Also, check out ftp://contrib.redhat.com.
Vilmos
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scrumpy)
Subject: Re: tar backup via NFS excluding NFS mount point
Date: 29 Mar 2001 21:46:13 GMT
Hi Stefano,
Your suggested -v option was definitely helpful.
It helped me discover that
tar --exclude /cdrom -c -z -f /cdrom/slakhdb2ext2.tar /
did not exclude the nfs mount point /cdrom!
After searching more on the web I had a few more ideas and finally found
that the '/' infront of 'cdrom' was the culprit. That surprised me!
What I finally used was
tar --exclude=cdrom --exclude=proc --exclude=mnt -c -z -v -f
/cdrom/hdb2ext2.tar /
It's now working as I'd hoped ;-)
Next time I'll need to refresh the backup archive with changed files only.
Finger's crossed!
Thanks, Scrumpy
Stefano Ghirlanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scrumpy) writes:
>
>> Linux Newbie here :)
>> I'm about to backup a Linux installation using tar to an NFS mount
>> point called /cdrom. /cdrom links to an NFS server on another PC on my
>> home network.
>>
>> The syntax I'm thinking of using is:
>>
>> tar --exclude /cdrom -c -z -f /cdrom/slakhdb2ext2.tar /
>
>It looks fine to me.
>
>> Will tar preserve permissions by default i.e. without adding any
>> specific option(s)?
>
>Yes, but note that if you unpack on another machine some of the user
>or group ids may not exist.
>
>> I'm not sure if I've got the NFS mount point /cdrom excluded
>> properly from the tar command and the NFS server PC contains many
>> gigs of data!
>
>You can always type Ctrl-C to abort the operation. Add the -v option
>that will list the files as they are added to the archive, so you can
>see whether /cdrom is skipped or not.
>
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9?= Paulsberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: transparant PROXY.
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 00:44:35 +0200
Does anyone here have experience setting up a transparant proxy for
linux,
specially with apache and squid behaviour in mind:
Is there anyway to get apache to log the IP that squid "sees",
so that apache get the client IP and not just the proxy's IP?
Apache logs will also skrink to an unusable size since clients get their
data from the proxy,
but is it possible to get squid to "trig" some sort of HTTP header on
the
apache server from the squid server each time it sends out data?
(Like making each HIT on the cache makes squid do a HEAD on that URL)
What changes to equipment and/or kernel is necesary to make squid
except all the different destination IP addresses it will intercept?
Regards Andr� Paulsberg
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: slave ypserv
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 00:39:26 +0200
Christoph Kukulies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[ptb wrote]
> :> : An alternative is for the clients to make broadcast calls. But that's
> :> : horrible.
> : Now try again.
> I misunderstood. I meant having a slave server by 'facility'.
> And I thought having a slave server is just enough and
> specifying a master and some slaves to the clients.
> What is a slave server actually for rather than supplying the fallback
> when the master server drops out?
It's for running a subnet. You don't seriously think a single master
server can supply hundreds or thousands of clients, do you? I don't
believe the rpc broadcast calls even route!
No, you set up a hierarchy, with slave servers serving each subnet. The
master does a push to the slaves when its database changes. The slaves
also pull at intervals (this all gets complicated, as you usually don't
want the slaves or the master in the same ypdomain as the clients).
Having several masters on the same subnet is usually a recipe for
disaster, as they can be and usually are out of phase, and the clients get
confused too. It only takes one time for the primary to be slow
at answering and then the client picks up the secondary and fixes on it
instead, even though the primary is fine again within a few seconds.
Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Looking for XFree86-4.0.x.rpm for Redhat 6.x Linux box?
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 00:40:02 +0200
OrangeDino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Where can I find rpms of XFree86-4.0.x for Redhat 6.x?
> Or how can I make the rpms for my RH 6.x Linux Box?
Get the source rpms and compile them. Or just get the source and
compile it.
Peter
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From: "Dan Forsythe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.windows-me,alt.windows98,comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Subject: Re: Windows ME and Windows 98 and Linux comp.
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:46:55 -0500
I use Windows 2000. It's much better.
<ingatz> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:53:32 -0500, "Dan Forsythe"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Doesn't matter who said it, it's a truth. The fact that a Unix person
came
> >up with it adds even more credence to the position.
>
> So Linux isn't free So What! Is Windows any better? No!
>
>
>
>
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From: Jacob Kristensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Caldera laptop install. gurrr
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 00:49:42 +0200
silky wrote:
>
> i need a littie help here. I'm trying to install caldera open linux to
> dual boot on my win98 laptop. i have a 3.5G hard drive and 32M of ram. I
> dedicated 1G to linux. One big partition for / and another for swap( i
> couldn't make an extended partition, no space) i set up the partitions ok
> and opted for the medium size (500M) install. and the installition went
> along nicely until i try to start it up for the first time. for whatever
> reason, during the boot up process it stalls. the first two lies that
> appear before it hands are...
>
> INIT: Switching to run level:3
> INIT: Sending Process file TERM Signal.
>
> any one have any insight as to what's going on? If i left out any crutial
> info i apologize, and i'd be happy to fill it in.
>
> THANKS
When LILO comes up hit TAB (if LILO starts in graphic mode hit CTRL-X
first to get into the textbased LILO). That should give you a list of
bootoptions, something like this:
dos linux
now type:
linux 2
this should start linux in runlevel 2 and give you a normal login
screen. Notice that you don't have networking nor X in runlevel 2.
type:
man telinit
to find out what runlevels are and how to change between diferent
runlevels.
Now it get's hairy. I'm using Red Hat 7 so I don't exacly know how
things are with Caldera, but try running
man chkconfig
If it's not there ask some Caldera people if there is a Caldera
equivalent...
Or try:
(I don't know much about initscrips so this could be wrong!!! - really)
cd /etc/rc.d/rc3.d
or whereever Caldera keeps initscrips of runlevel 3.(maybe it's
/etc/rc3.d)
type
ls S*
the file with the lowest number after S is the script run first when
entering runlevel 3. Look inside it. Is it a service you need? If not,
move the file somewhere safe, then you can always restore it. Try a
normal reboot.
Jacob
--
There he goes...One of Gods own prototypes.
A high-powered mutant of some kind,
never even considered for mass production.
Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
Jacob Kristensen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Lamb)
Crossposted-To: alt.windows-me,alt.windows98,comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Subject: Re: Windows ME and Windows 98 and Linux comp.
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 22:50:18 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:53:32 -0500, Dan Forsythe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>So a professional Unix person made the comment?
>
>Doesn't matter who said it, it's a truth. The fact that a Unix person came
>up with it adds even more credence to the position.
>
>
><Man> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:25:28 -0500, "Dan Forsythe"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >"Linux is free if your time is worth nothing" - - Author unknown, but
>> >enlightened.
>>
>> I think the quote belongs to Jamie Zawinski. He's the guy who wrote
>> the Unix version of Netscape back in the day. So if you implying that
>> this is a windows user your wrong. He's also responsible for Lucid
>> Emacs a X version of EMACS.
>>
>>
>> MAN________________________________________________
>>
>>
>>
>
>
I decided to leave everything intact and in the order you left it for just
this one message to make several points.
1: Most people's time is worth nothing as most people rarely do anything
productive. Be that as it may, adding value to the time spent on Linux (or
any other Unix) does not make Linux any less free. Why? It is often less
time than what is spent trying to do the same thing under Windows.
2: People who use Linux (and, in fact, other unices) have more free time. I
can prove this in a simple manner.
2a: They have enough time to actually trim quotes.
2b: They have enough time to post their reply /after/ what they are
replying, instead of /before/ what they are replying. Oddly enough
they also read books forwards instead of backwards and hold
conversations in the correct order, as well.
Give your above lack of common courtesy in trimming quotes and proper
order of posting I can only assume you're too busy trying to keep your OS
running instead of actually using it to do productive work. In fact, I'd go
so far as to say that you're actually trying to get as much verbage out in as
short a time-frame since you don't know when the next crash will be.
Contrast that to this post where I would have trimmed if I weren't making
a point, posted in correct order and have been quite verbose. Could be
because my server has known to have had a 9 month uptime and, aside from a
faulty NIC that I need to replace before the cable gets disconnected again,
will most likely have many more 9+ month uptimes. Means I can sit back,
relax, take my time in my work /or/ push the machine as hard as I want knowing
that work will get done. To me, that is a far more productive use of the time
that I would not consider worthless.
Now, the worthless time? Playing games on Windows, for that is all that
is is good for any more.
--
Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your
ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls.
===============================+=============================================
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From: Pyang444 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.mail.misc,alt.os.linux.suse,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re "Mahogany":Full-featured, reliable POP-mail client for Linux?
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:45:06 -0800
I did try to downloaded "mahogany_SuSE_7_-0.60-5.i386.rpm"
Could not install it on SUSE 7.0, some libaries, related to the Palm are
missing.
Would anyone have an idea of where to find the required libraries?
Andre G.
Mark Post wrote:
>
> On 28 Jan 2001 16:00:44 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dick Wisan) wrote:
>
> >In article <93q23j$hjt$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>says...
> >>Linux Format magazine recommended Mahogany as a GUI client, or Mutt as a
> >>text-based client.
>
> >>www.wxwindows.org/Mahogany/
> >>www.mutt.org/
>
> >Alas:
>
> > Not Found
>
> > The requested URL /Mahogany/ was not found on this server.
>
> It's been moved to http://mahogany.sourceforge.net/ I just checked that
> URL, and it works.
>
> Mark Post
>
> Postmodern Consulting
> Information Technology and Systems Management Consulting
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From: Steve Bui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: authenticating proxy?
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:52:49 -0800
Is there a software package which will authenticate an incoming
connection (via telnet or http) then, once authenticated proxy/route
those packets to another machine? Thanks.
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From: "fabienne hadkova" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: message in shell
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 00:57:50 +0200
hi
there is something I have done before but I don't remember the (very easy)
syntax.
when I log in with telnet to another sever and use the command 'who', I can
see who else is on this server.
There is a way to send a message to somebody to his shell.
I don't remember how it's done, can somebody help?
thanks
fabienne
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