Linux-Misc Digest #896, Volume #27               Sat, 19 May 01 09:13:01 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Can I use FAT32 partitions using linuex? (Teke Tu)
  Re: Looking for a GUI telnet (John Thompson)
  Re: Adding a partition to / (John Thompson)
  AMR slot and volcano winmodem (Hossam Hossny A. Rahim)
  Re: dos partition not writable under linux (Yvan Loranger)
  Re: Need an idea for a Heisenbug ("Tauno Voipio")
  Re: boot problem: help! ("Tauno Voipio")
  setup resolv.conf ? ("Eric Chow")
  Detect Bad Sector in HardDisk ? ("Eric Chow")
  Re: Need an idea for a Heisenbug ("Peter T. Breuer")
  which linux dist? (root)
  Re: setup resolv.conf ? (root)
  Re: Mandrake 7,  I gave up trying - Windows actually WORKS (DanH)
  Re: setup resolv.conf ? ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: setup resolv.conf ? (Carl Fink)
  Re: which linux dist? (Jerry Kreps)
  Re: which linux dist? (Stanislaw Flatto)
  Re: which linux dist? (Chiefy)
  parport (Robert Kirkpatrick)
  Re: setup resolv.conf ? (Jean-David Beyer)
  Re: setup resolv.conf ? (Jean-David Beyer)
  Re: Detect Bad Sector in HardDisk ? (Michael Heiming)
  Re: which linux dist? (Jean-David Beyer)
  Re: RH 6.2 & AMD K6-2 (Dave Uhring)
  RH6.2 & AMD K6-2 ("DMcBee")

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From: Teke Tu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can I use FAT32 partitions using linuex?
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 09:30:05 -0000

Thank you for all your help... I made it to work... 
Teke Tu wrote:
> 
> Hi, I have just installed RH7.1. I realized that I didn't set enough
> space for the linux native partion.. so I am wondering wether if it is
> possible that I mount other windows partitions like NT or FAT32 so I can
> downloaded files to other partions to save some space?
> If it is possible, can you tell me how to mount a hard disk?? coz this I 
my
> first time using LInux. 
> 
> Thank you very very much... 
> 
> --
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> http://www.help.com/


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http://www.help.com/

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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Looking for a GUI telnet
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 19:59:25 -0500

twamn wrote:
 
> I am looking for some software that would let you run your lunux PC from a
> remote location such as one can do with Telnet but I would like an
> application that would let you run GUI applications instead of just the
> command lines that Telnet has.  If possible I would like to run the remote
> software from a Windows PC.
> 
> Is there such software available?

Sure.  The X window system was designed from the start to be
networkable.  If you telnet (or ssh) into the remote machine you
simply tell it to display on the local machine.  Eg "export
DISPLAY=local.machine:0.0"  You do need to have an X server
running on the local machine to run the display locally.

-- 


-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Adding a partition to /
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 20:03:05 -0500

Victor Dods wrote:

> How exactly do I go about adding a partition under / so I can add more
> space to the / filesystem?  I tried creating the partition and mkfs'ing
> it as ext2, then I added it to my fstab as
> 
> /dev/sdb7               /                       ext2    defaults    1 1
> 
> Needless to say it didn't work, otherwise I wouldn't be writing this.
> Could the cause be the fact that I tried to mount it onto / ?  Anyway,
> help would be much appreciated.

mkdir /newpartition
mount -t ext2 /dev/sdb7 /newpartition
 

-- 


-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hossam Hossny A. Rahim)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: AMR slot and volcano winmodem
Date: 19 May 2001 02:43:44 -0700

Hi
I got motherboard intel 810 with AMR slot (AC97 Chib)
kernel is 2.2.15-19mdk
my modem is volcano winmodem on COM 3
the sound works correctly when working with ALSA snd-card-intel8x0
module
when loading that module it loads another modules like AC97 controller
module
the question is...

as the AC97 module loads succefully, why my modem aren't detected
though it has ICH82801AA810 chib on it and it's kernel supported?

when doing cat /proc/pci I got the following:
AC97 audio controller (audio_cotroller snd-card-intel8x0)
AC97 pci modem (unknown unknown)
so the kernel doesn't recognize which media type is the modem
controller !
logically, AMR modems can be supported under linux when loading the
right module.
so my 2nd question is...

has anyone managed to write a driver (or even get it anywhere) for
this AC97 modem controller?

Also, I configured WINE on my linux box. I tried to load the modem's
windows driver but I failed !
my 3rd quistion is...

anyone know how to load .sys files with WINE?

thanx for listening and sorry for this long post :)

BYE

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yvan Loranger)
Subject: Re: dos partition not writable under linux
Date: 19 May 2001 09:48:29 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yvan Loranger)

Aranwen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
>  ! chmod 777 /hda ! /hda refers to complete disk, /hda1
>   refers to partition 1 on that disk.
> I see where you're coming from but /hda is the mount point..i think it's
> correct. Isn't it? :)

oops

> Either way thanks a lot for your help you've been very kind. The thing i
> don't understand is..a few days ago at school they told us that the default
> permission is 666 and the umask value is subtracted from that. Is that

default perm = 777 - your umask

> And one more thing...you mean that chmod can't change the permissions on a
> partition, it can only be done through mount and umask,and after that they
> can't be changed?

don't know what i wrote to make you think that!
however, it's basically true for filesystems like fat that don't store
permissions.

--
Merci........Yvan          Pour le plein air: Club Vertige
                               http://www.ncf.ca/vertige

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From: "Tauno Voipio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need an idea for a Heisenbug
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 10:04:18 GMT


"Allen Ashley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9e4d32$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I need an idea of how I go about eliminating a Heisenbug. I have
> a routine which performs numerical calculations. [It inverts a matrix
> by the method of partitions]. The routine will not perform correctly
> unless I put a printf statement at the start. It doesn't matter what I
> print, even printf("\n"); works. Without the statement the results
> of the calculations as seen by the printout in another routine are
> in error.
>
> I have tried turning the optimizer off, and there is no change.
> I have tried substituting additional dummy calculations to
> move the following code to a higher address, and that doesn't
> work. The printf is untidy, any ideas?
>
> My compiler is:
> Reading specs from
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-slackware-linux/egcs-2.91.66/specs
> gcc version egcs-2.91.66 19990314/Linux (egcs-1.1.2 release)
>

Do you have the memory used by the routine and its input and output data
allocated properly? A common blunder is to declare a pointer and use it as
an array without ever allocating the storage for the array contents.

Pretty ofthe Heisenbugs lurk in in unallocated memory used as allocated. The
addition of the printf() changes the usage of the unallocated memory area
and therefore the results are changed.

Tauno Voipio
tauno voipio @ iki fi



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From: "Tauno Voipio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: boot problem: help!
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 10:06:55 GMT


"Enrico Costanza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi all,
>
> How could I find info about how to create a resque disk for redhat 7.0?
>

man mkbootdisk (at least in RH 6.x).

Tauno Voipio
tauno voipio @ iki fi


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From: "Eric Chow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: setup resolv.conf ?
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 18:40:39 +0800

Hello,

Would you please to tell me how to prevent changing of the resolv.conf ?

After I dial-up to the ISP, the /etc/resolv.conf always change. How to
prevent this ?

Best regards,
Eric






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From: "Eric Chow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Detect Bad Sector in HardDisk ?
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 18:54:56 +0800

Hello,

Is there any command to check if a harddisk contains bad sector in Linux ?

Best regards,
Eric



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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need an idea for a Heisenbug
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 12:53:04 +0200

Tauno Voipio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> "Allen Ashley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9e4d32$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> I need an idea of how I go about eliminating a Heisenbug. I have
>> a routine which performs numerical calculations. [It inverts a matrix
>> by the method of partitions]. The routine will not perform correctly

Well, dunno what method that is. But there are plenty of methods (even
one invented by me, I believe I recall ...)

>> unless I put a printf statement at the start. It doesn't matter what I

Yah. Typical. Means you have an uninitialized variable on which the
rest depends. Or you are overwriting something.

>> print, even printf("\n"); works. Without the statement the results
>> of the calculations as seen by the printout in another routine are
>> in error.
>>
>> I have tried turning the optimizer off, and there is no change.
>> I have tried substituting additional dummy calculations to
>> move the following code to a higher address, and that doesn't
>> work. The printf is untidy, any ideas?
>>
>> My compiler is:
>> Reading specs from
> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-slackware-linux/egcs-2.91.66/specs
>> gcc version egcs-2.91.66 19990314/Linux (egcs-1.1.2 release)

> Do you have the memory used by the routine and its input and output data
> allocated properly? A common blunder is to declare a pointer and use it as
> an array without ever allocating the storage for the array contents.

Also possible (not that it's any different as a bug).

> Pretty ofthe Heisenbugs lurk in in unallocated memory used as allocated. The

Indeed.

> addition of the printf() changes the usage of the unallocated memory area
> and therefore the results are changed.

It could be anything, honestly. He's probably calling a function with
the wrong number of arguments too.

The only way to find this kind of thing is by code-halving, or trying a
memory detector, or rewriting the code sufficiently well that another
person can read it ...

Peter

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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: which linux dist?
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 12:17:11 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



I am currently using Slackware as I find it extremely fast and powerful.

But now that I have a bit of money :) I don't know if to buy Red Hat
Deluxe edition or Mandrake 8.0

I tried Mandrake 8.0 and it is brilliant as everything works out immediately
but I found it a bit too slow and painful to get rid of all the services i 
did not really need.

Which distribution would you recommend?

Nick
(any reply here or to [EMAIL PROTECTED])


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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: setup resolv.conf ?
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 12:19:57 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Eric Chow wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Would you please to tell me how to prevent changing of the resolv.conf ?
> :
> After I dial-up to the ISP, the /etc/resolv.conf always change. How to
> prevent this ?
> 
> Best regards,
> Eric
> 
> 
why? that's how it should be. However just type "chmod 444 
/etc/resolv.conf" on the command line
> 
> 
> 



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From: DanH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Mandrake 7,  I gave up trying - Windows actually WORKS
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 07:11:01 -0400

Joe Bean wrote:
> 
> Maybe the guy isn't a 1337 H@X0R like you guys and maybe he is just a
> average Joe. Am about ready to give up playing around with Mandrake 8.0 and
> go back to Windows myself. Hell I'll be the first to admit am a newbie to
> Linux and all ( 3 months of messing with Linux ) but it seems to me from
> right off the bat that Linux distro's that claim to be working towards ease
> of use have a longs way to go. You know not everything worth using has to be
> mind numbly difficult or overly complex.  

Go on.  Use the OS that you feel more comfortable with.  It's about
choice, you choose for yourself, I'll choose for myself and the people
down the street will  choose for themselves.

Enjoy.  We'll still be here if you should try again later.

DanH
-- 
Air Cav Reference Board
http://www.cavalrypilot.com
UNIX - Not just for vestal virgins anymore

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: setup resolv.conf ?
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 13:03:07 +0200

Eric Chow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Would you please to tell me how to prevent changing of the resolv.conf ?

> After I dial-up to the ISP, the /etc/resolv.conf always change. How to
> prevent this ?

man pppd, presumably! Grep for "dns". But the full answer depends on 
YOUR answer to the question "what are you using to 'dial-up' with"?.

Why do you want to stop your resolv.conf changing? That's another
question.

Peter

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Subject: Re: setup resolv.conf ?
Date: 19 May 2001 11:32:30 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sat, 19 May 2001 18:40:39 +0800 Eric Chow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>After I dial-up to the ISP, the /etc/resolv.conf always change. How to
>prevent this ?

Why do you want to?  What it's doing is presumably adding your ISP's name
servers to the listing.

I suppose if you had posted enough information (like, what software you're
using to connect to the ISP over what media) someone could tell you how to
do what you want, but I don't see why you need to in the first place.
-- 
Carl Fink               [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I-Con's Science and Technology Programming
<http://www.iconsf.org/>

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From: Jerry Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: which linux dist?
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 07:34:11 -0500

root wrote:

> 
> 
> I am currently using Slackware as I find it extremely fast and powerful.
> 
> But now that I have a bit of money :) I don't know if to buy Red Hat
> Deluxe edition or Mandrake 8.0
> 
> I tried Mandrake 8.0 and it is brilliant as everything works out
> immediately but I found it a bit too slow and painful to get rid of all
> the services i did not really need.
> 
> Which distribution would you recommend?
> 
> Nick
> (any reply here or to [EMAIL PROTECTED])
> 

why change?  Don't let the 'extra' money burn a hole in your pocket!


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From: Stanislaw Flatto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: which linux dist?
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 22:51:52 +1000



root wrote:

> I am currently using Slackware as I find it extremely fast and powerful.
>
> But now that I have a bit of money :) I don't know if to buy Red Hat
> Deluxe edition or Mandrake 8.0
>
> I tried Mandrake 8.0 and it is brilliant as everything works out immediately
> but I found it a bit too slow and painful to get rid of all the services i
> did not really need.
>
> Which distribution would you recommend?
>
> Nick
> (any reply here or to [EMAIL PROTECTED])

Slackware.

Stanislaw.
Slack user from Ulladulla.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chiefy)
Subject: Re: which linux dist?
Date: 19 May 2001 12:43:38 GMT

19 May 2001 11:17 UTC, [EMAIL PROTECTED] verily sayeth:
[snip]
> Which distribution would you recommend?

Debian.

Spend the extra cash on some flying lessons.

-- 
Speed.

Debian user (usually). Lincolnshire.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Kirkpatrick)
Subject: parport
Date: 19 May 2001 05:44:29 -0700

I can't use my parallel port. I checked /proc/parport/0: all files are
empty. I hope some probing would make some setup for me, but I don't
know how!? I'm using Caldera 6.2 Thank you for any help!

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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: setup resolv.conf ?
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 08:44:29 -0400

"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
> 
> Eric Chow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Would you please to tell me how to prevent changing of the resolv.conf ?
> 
> > After I dial-up to the ISP, the /etc/resolv.conf always change. How to
> > prevent this ?
> 
> man pppd, presumably! Grep for "dns". But the full answer depends on
> YOUR answer to the question "what are you using to 'dial-up' with"?.
> 
> Why do you want to stop your resolv.conf changing? That's another
> question.
> 
If the O.P. is like me, what happens is that the pppd stuff overwrote
my resolv.conf and made it use my ISP's name server instead of mine.
Since my ISP knows nothing about my LAN, this is unsatisfactory. I do
not recall everything I did to make my Red Hat 6.2 distro stop this,
but part of it was in adding a line:

PEERDNS=no

to /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ppp0

YMMV, especially depending on your distribution.

-- 
 .~.  Jean-David Beyer           Registered Linux User 85642.
 /V\                             Registered Machine    73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey     http://counter.li.org 
^^-^^ 8:40am up 17 days, 23:50, 3 users, load average: 3.31, 3.36,
3.05

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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: setup resolv.conf ?
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 08:46:31 -0400

root wrote:
> 
> Eric Chow wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> >
> > Would you please to tell me how to prevent changing of the resolv.conf ?
> > :
> > After I dial-up to the ISP, the /etc/resolv.conf always change. How to
> > prevent this ?
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Eric
> >
> >
> why? that's how it should be. However just type "chmod 444
> /etc/resolv.conf" on the command line
> >
That is not enough, since root is running the pppd stuff and it will
ignore you chmod stuff. Besides, this should be fixed correctly.

Furthermore, that is not necessarily how it should be. It is OK for
users who do not know how to configure their dial-up networking and
are content to run as though they were on a Windows machine.

-- 
 .~.  Jean-David Beyer           Registered Linux User 85642.
 /V\                             Registered Machine    73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey     http://counter.li.org 
^^-^^ 8:40am up 17 days, 23:50, 3 users, load average: 3.31, 3.36,
3.05

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Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 14:54:18 +0200
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Detect Bad Sector in HardDisk ?

Eric Chow wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Is there any command to check if a harddisk contains bad sector in Linux ?
> 
> Best regards,
> Eric

man e2fsck
man badblocks

If you're using ext2, you should include some more infos in your posts!

Michael Heiming

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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: which linux dist?
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 08:51:43 -0400

root wrote:
> 
> I am currently using Slackware as I find it extremely fast and powerful.
> 
> But now that I have a bit of money :) I don't know if to buy Red Hat
> Deluxe edition or Mandrake 8.0
> 
> I tried Mandrake 8.0 and it is brilliant as everything works out immediately
> but I found it a bit too slow and painful to get rid of all the services i
> did not really need.
> 
> Which distribution would you recommend?
> 
The enemy you know is better than one you do not. I happen to use Red
Hat 6.2 at the moment (actually, VA Linux 6.2.3). It is my impression
that no distribution is ideal for everyone. I have never tried
anything but Red Hat because I find it is too time consuming to try
different releases. I have gotten to the point where I can install a
new release of Red Hat in about an hour (most of which is spent
waiting around for it to check my hard drives and format them). But it
then takes over a week to get everything configured the way I want,
since this all changes from release to release. I assume it would take
even longer to change from one distribution to another.

Since I have these machines to use to get things done, and not to play
around evaluating every release of every distribution, I cannot be
bothered to try any others (even though there may well be a better
distribution for what I want).

I suggest you keep what you have unless it causes you real problems.
Then try to find a distribution that solves the problem you have.

-- 
 .~.  Jean-David Beyer           Registered Linux User 85642.
 /V\                             Registered Machine    73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey     http://counter.li.org 
^^-^^ 8:45am up 17 days, 23:55, 4 users, load average: 3.30, 3.31,
3.10

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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH 6.2 & AMD K6-2
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 07:59:09 -0500

DMcBee wrote:

> My install freezes at the very end of the copy/install process. I'm
> assuming because of the K6 cpu. Anybody know of any fixes?
> 
>             -D
> 
> 
> 

It is not because of the cpu being a K6-2.  I'm using a K6-2/450 running 
RH-7.1 to post this.  Maybe you don't have enough memory in the system?  Or 
perhaps you didn't make the /var partition large enough?  Any other 
response is purely a guess since you failed to give any other information 
about your system.


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From: "DMcBee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RH6.2 & AMD K6-2
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 09:19:34 -0400

My install freezes at the very end of the copy/install process. I'm assuming
because of the K6 cpu. Anybody know of any fixes?

            -D





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