Linux-Misc Digest #929, Volume #27 Wed, 23 May 01 15:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: XWindows desktop not fully coming up. Please help? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: XMMS core dumps constantly ("Stefan Viljoen")
Re: XMMS core dumps constantly ("Stefan Viljoen")
Re: Dumb newbie question about setting the system time. (Markku Kolkka)
Re: LILO and Operating System Missing ("joseph")
Re: An alternative for gcc and g++ (Andrew Brooks)
Re: XWindows desktop not fully coming up. Please help? ("joseph")
Re: Dumb newbie question about setting the system time. ("joseph")
Re: how to undo a ramdisk ( /dev/ram* ) ? (Michael Heiming)
ziplinux (william)
Re: kmail configuration file (J Hayward)
Re: can't compile qt-2.3.0 with -xft. Why? (J�rgen Diez)
Re: RH 7.1 - lost panel in gnome! (Stan)
icq + sms + linux (Andelko Horvat)
Re: which linux dist? (Carl)
Re: RedHat 7.1 PS2 mouse problems... ("hassard")
Re: Security Testing ("Michael Pye")
Re: which linux dist? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: rsync with ssh and no password prompt (Michael Heiming)
Routing keystrokes through network connection ("Michael Pye")
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: XWindows desktop not fully coming up. Please help?
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 18:00:45 +0200
LRW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yeah, someone else told me /root/.xinitrc may need to be fixed. (I'm logging
> exec gnome-session
> Is that all it should contain? If I want it to run KDE instead, what should
> I put there?
Some command that starts kde. "startkde" is a usual candidate.
> I have a working Linux box here at work, and it's running KDE just fine. I
> looked for an .xinitrc and it doesn't have one. WHy might that be?
Why don't you have blue socks on? There's no particular reason. Perhaps
that person prefers chosing from a menu rather than specifying
directly. Perhaps (rightly!) they don't run X as root (you SHOULDN'T!).
Peter
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From: "Stefan Viljoen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: XMMS core dumps constantly
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 18:32:01 +0200
Jacob Kristensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Stefan Viljoen wrote:
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > Is there an XMMS faq somewhere or can somebody help - I have RedHat
6.0 -
> > sndconfig runs fine and plays the sample of Linus' voice and the midi
> > sample. However, trying to play any MP3 with XMMS in Xwindows core
dumps -
> > no matter what user or what MP3 file. I have already tried chmod'ding my
> > /dev/audio /dev/dsp /dev/mixer etc to a=rwx but nothing seems to help -
I
> > tried chown'ing to root, or any other user these devices too - 0 luck -
XMMS
> > just keeps dumping core like clockwork. Anybody got any ideas in what
> > direction I can head to fix this?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Stefan
> At a shell try: mpeg123 <ur-favorite-mp3>. Does it work? Check that u
Thanks - I'll see wat happens.
> have the latest XMMS-version. What output plugin are u using? Got any
Ah ha ! - Possibly a problem - I checked the XMMS www and it seems I am
several versions behind...
> strange effects/visualization turned on? In options check things like
> "use realtime priority....." and "enable DGA....." is OFF.
Nope - no visualisations active.
Thanks!
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From: "Stefan Viljoen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: XMMS core dumps constantly
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 18:34:31 +0200
aflinsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Stefan Viljoen wrote:
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > Is there an XMMS faq somewhere or can somebody help - I have RedHat
6.0 -
> > sndconfig runs fine and plays the sample of Linus' voice and the midi
> > sample. However, trying to play any MP3 with XMMS in Xwindows core
dumps -
> > no matter what user or what MP3 file. I have already tried chmod'ding my
> > /dev/audio /dev/dsp /dev/mixer etc to a=rwx but nothing seems to help -
I
> Try to figure out what is wrong -
> 1 - try some other mp3 player - does it work?
The weird thing is that I had it working on my previously Linux install
(same version off the same CD) - I formatted and reinstalled, and now I've
got problems. Probably forget some package in the reinstallation...?
> 2 - reinstall xmms - did that fix the problem?
Hmm - will try.
> 3 - recompile xmms from source tarball or src rpm - did that fix the
> problem?
I am going to try and get hold of the source from the WWW page - thanks!
> You probably upgraded some library that xmmms is depending on. In my
> experience, recompiling to the exact libraries that you are using
> usually fixes that sort of problem.
Thks,
Stefan
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From: Markku Kolkka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dumb newbie question about setting the system time.
Date: 23 May 2001 19:10:25 +0300
Christian Capito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> You can't set the *hardware* time on your computer
Yes you can, with the hwclock program.
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Markku Kolkka
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "joseph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: LILO and Operating System Missing
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 12:53:35 -0400
>From http://www.lug.udel.edu/LDP/HOWTO/Bootdisk-HOWTO/a1405.html
LI : The first stage boot loader was able to load the second stage boot
loader, but has failed to execute it. This can either be caused by a
geometry mismatch or by moving /boot/boot.b without running the map
installer
"LRW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9PPO6.225$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have WinME installed on /dev/hda1, and Linux on /dev/hdb1.
> I set up the install the first time to accidently install LILO onto /hda1
> instead of /hdb1. No biggie, I just had to type "dos" at the LILO: prompt
to
> boot up WinME.
>
> However, I had to reinstall Linux, and put LILO on /hdb1 and start from
> floppy.
>
> Now when I boot up w/o the floppy, after the POST I get only "LI" of
"LILO:"
> and it stalls. With the floppy in I get the whole LILO: and it boots to
> Linux fine, but if I try to type dos, it says partition doesn't exist.
> During setup with Disk Druid, I made no changes to the FAT partitions.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> IF I have to reinstall WinME, it's no big deal. My WinME OS is partioned
off
> on a seperate partition from the other FAT drive, so nothing important
> should be hurt. (Again, I didn't make any changes to the FAT drive.)
>
> My followup question then is if I have to reinstall WinME back onto drive
a,
> will it change Linux on the drive b at all? I'm doubting it, since I have
a
> boot floppy for it.
>
> And a last question, I tried to edit the lilo.conf (sp?) file that
contains
> what OS options to boot too, and while /etc (?) has it, I mounted and
ls'ed
> the floppy and there's nothing there. How can I edit it on the floppy to
> make sure the "dos" aprtition is an option?
>
> Thanks!!!
>
> Liam
>
>
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From: Andrew Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: An alternative for gcc and g++
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 17:50:18 +0100
Stephen Rank wrote:
> it's pretty much the consensus that gcc is better than Sun's compiler anyway.
Better in what way? Sun's cc produces better code, gcc compiles
it's own flavour of C. Take your pick!
Haven't Intel just released a new compiler for Linux?
Borland certainly have, too (but it may be part of Kylix?).
Andrew.
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From: "joseph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: XWindows desktop not fully coming up. Please help?
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 13:02:14 -0400
look in /etc/X11/
there is a directory called xinit or something.
there are two files in there.
One of them says has entries like "startkde" and "gnome-session" .
Read through it.
On my redhat install, the file says , briefly,
if I have specified a desktop , try to start it.
if specified desktop not found, or there is no specified desktop, try to
start gnome ( gnome-session)
If that fails, try to start kde ( startkde )
if that fails, just start 3 consoles and the clock app .
On your home computer, once you have a cosole running, type in startkde or
gnome-session. this should start the desktop. Note that closing the
terminal that you typed into will kill the desktop as well :)
hth
"LRW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:X8RO6.11$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Oh, and one other question, how will "ps wux" help? I tried it on my
working
> Linux box and it comes up with (among a lot of other things)
> [startx]
> [xinit]
> /etc/X11/X :0 -auth /root/.Xauthority
> kwm
>
> and so on. What's this supposed to telle me? I looked at the .Xauthority,
> but it's all machine code (or rather a bunch of random ASCII symbols.)
> I will give a looksee for .xinitrc when I get home to the non-working box.
> But again, if that file doesn't exist, do I just make it and use the one
> line?
>
> Thanks!
> Liam
>
> "Jeremiah DeWitt Weiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9egiih$snb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > In comp.os.linux.misc LRW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > First the current problem, then what leads up to it.
> > > When I startx, the Xserver starts, but all I get is three term windows
> and a
> > > clock. The resolution changes work, and the color's fine, so I don't
> think
> > > it's the device settings in XF86Config. The desktop doesn't come up.
> >
> > It sounds like you're not getting the window manager you expected.
> > Do 'ps wux' and see what's running. I'm guessing that your X startup
> files
> > are not the way they usually are. Check ~/.xinitrc.
> >
> > JDW
> >
> >
>
>
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From: "joseph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dumb newbie question about setting the system time.
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 13:09:28 -0400
Linux has a clock, separate from the bios clock .
hence you have a "hardware clock" , which is the bios clock and the kernel
clock which is the system clock. Clear as mud yet ? :)
To control the hardware clock ( changing it ) you use a program called
hwclock.
to control the system ( linux ) clock , you use the program date.
typing man on these two will give you the necessary info.
What I usually do:
use hwclock to set the bios time. then sync the system time with the bios
time
# set the hardware clock.
hwclock --set --date=19:30:00
# move hardware clock's value to the system clock
hwclock --hctosys
That should take care of it.
later.
"Joel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9ef8vl$dci$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi. I am reletively new to linux (I've been using it for about 2 months)
> and my clock is off. I have it set to local time, but I can't figure out
> how to set it to the correct time. I remember when I installed RedHat
7.1,
> a package was installed that is for setting the time, but I don't remember
> the name. How do I set the hardware time on my computer? I have Windows
> and Linux installed, BTW. Thanks in advance.
>
>
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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 19:28:42 +0200
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to undo a ramdisk ( /dev/ram* ) ?
"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
>
> Andrew Strebkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > earlier glitches resulted from my exceeding the 4MB limit; I chose to
> > continue after the mke2fs size warning (quoted below). How does one go
> > about creating a ramdisk larger than 4MB?? I can't find the
>
> As far as I recall, the maximum size of a ramdisk under the 2.2 kernels
> is (by default) 16MB, and a ramdisk expands to this size when you ask
> it to by writing to it.
>
> Peter
Hello,
/usr/src/linux-2.2.16/Documentation/ramdisk.txt
/usr/src/linux-2.4.4/Documentation/ramdisk.txt
contains info about ramdisk, default size is 4 MB, however,
I could create a RAM disk (2.2.16) with 38MB, without any problems.
df -h | grep ram
/dev/ram0 38M 20M 18M 53% /mnt
ls -al /mnt/
total 20960
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 1024 May 23 19:16 .
drwxr-xr-x 21 root root 4096 Mar 16 01:43 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 21359777 May 23 19:16
linux-2.4.4.tar.bz2
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 12288 May 23 19:16 lost+found
Michael Heiming
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From: william <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ziplinux
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 17:30:07 -0000
Has anyone installed and had success with zip Linux?
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From: J Hayward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kmail configuration file
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 10:43:15 -0700
Hello,
Look in: .kde/share/config/kmailrc in your home directory.
^ note the period
Regards,
Jim H
r1ckey wrote:
> Anybody know where the Kmail configuration file is located? I created a
> nice little problem for myself by adding a POP3 server without a name. I
> can not remove the server from within the GUI, if I try the app crashes.
> I tried to modify it from within the GUI and I get an error regarding it
> not being able to locate the server.
>
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: can't compile qt-2.3.0 with -xft. Why?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J�rgen Diez)
Date: 23 May 2001 17:51:42 GMT
"Nils O. Sel�sdal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
here's a part of the logfile which shows the error output:
make uic
make[5]: Entering directory `/usr/local/qt-2.3.0/tools/designer'
if [ -d uic ]; then cd uic ; make; fi
make[6]: Entering directory `/usr/local/qt-2.3.0/tools/designer/uic'
g++ -L/usr/local/qt/lib -Wl,-rpath,/usr/local/qt/lib -o
/usr/local/qt/bin/uic uic.o ../shared/widgetdatabase.o ../shared/domtool.o
../integration/kdevelop/kdewidgets.o -lqutil -L../lib -lqt
/usr/local/qt/lib/libqt.so: undefined reference to `FT_Init_FreeType'
/usr/local/qt/lib/libqt.so: undefined reference to `FT_Load_Glyph'
/usr/local/qt/lib/libqt.so: undefined reference to `FT_Done_Face'
/usr/local/qt/lib/libqt.so: undefined reference to `XRenderFreePicture'
/usr/local/qt/lib/libqt.so: undefined reference to `FT_Get_Char_Index'
/usr/local/qt/lib/libqt.so: undefined reference to `FT_Outline_Translate'
/usr/local/qt/lib/libqt.so: undefined reference to `FT_Set_Charmap'
/usr/local/qt/lib/libqt.so: undefined reference to
`XRenderCompositeString8'
/usr/local/qt/lib/libqt.so: undefined reference to `XRenderFillRectangle'
/usr/local/qt/lib/libqt.so: undefined reference to `FT_Outline_Transform'
/usr/local/qt/lib/libqt.so: undefined reference to
`XRenderCompositeString16'
/usr/local/qt/lib/libqt.so: undefined reference to
`XRenderFindVisualFormat'
/usr/local/qt/lib/libqt.so: undefined reference to `FT_Outline_Get_Bitmap'
/usr/local/qt/lib/libqt.so: undefined reference to
`XRenderSetPictureClipRegion'
/usr/local/qt/lib/libqt.so: undefined reference to `XRenderCreateGlyphSet'
/usr/local/qt/lib/libqt.so: undefined reference to `FT_Set_Char_Size'
/usr/local/qt/lib/libqt.so: undefined reference to
`XRenderCompositeString32'
/usr/local/qt/lib/libqt.so: undefined reference to `XRenderAddGlyphs'
/usr/local/qt/lib/libqt.so: undefined reference to `XRenderChangePicture'
/usr/local/qt/lib/libqt.so: undefined reference to `XRenderFindFormat'
/usr/local/qt/lib/libqt.so: undefined reference to `FT_New_Face'
/usr/local/qt/lib/libqt.so: undefined reference to `XRenderCreatePicture'
/usr/local/qt/lib/libqt.so: undefined reference to `XRenderFreeGlyphSet'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[6]: *** [/usr/local/qt/bin/uic] Error 1
make[5]: *** [uic] Error 2
make[4]: *** [all] Error 2
make[3]: *** [designer] Error 2
make[2]: *** [all] Error 2
make[1]: *** [sub-tools] Error 2
make: *** [init] Error 2
make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/qt-2.3.0/tools/designer/uic'
make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/qt-2.3.0/tools/designer'
make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/qt-2.3.0/tools/designer'
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/qt-2.3.0/tools'
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/qt-2.3.0/tools'
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/qt-2.3.0'
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From: Stan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH 7.1 - lost panel in gnome!
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 13:02:38 -0400
Wayne Osborn wrote:
> [snip]
>
> With Gnome running, open a temrinal window and type "panel".
>
> --
> Wayne A. Osborn, SCADA Engineer.[dnar AT iinet DOT net DOT au]
> Registered Linux User #212818. [2.2.16-22-Win4Lin-686] [i686]
> 10:00am up 3 days, 7:21, 2 users, load average: 2.02, 2.06, 2.01
> ..."But what we need to know is, do people want nasally-insertable computers?"
Well I couldn't do it because gnome was so hosed I could not get a terminal window
(righ-click did not work at all).
Uninstalling Mozilla didn't work... for some reason it never registered itself so it
was not showing in "rpm -qa".
So what I did was I created a new account and instead of logging in as root I logged
in as that user. Once I logged in, to my surprise gnome was working just fine! I
logged out and logged back in as root, and even though the panel still wasn't there,
I was able to right-click, open a terminal window and type "panel". That restored
the panel, with all my customizations.
I'm curious though what happened :)
Thanx to all who replied,
Stan
PS What is Registered Linux User # ?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andelko Horvat)
Subject: icq + sms + linux
Date: 23 May 2001 17:32:56 GMT
Reply-To: Andelko Horvat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Is there ICQ client for linux that supports sending SMS?
Thanks
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From: Carl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: which linux dist?
Date: 23 May 2001 11:03:39 -0700
"Florian Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Stanislaw Flatto"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> I am currently using Slackware as I find it extremely fast and
> >> powerful.
>
> >> Which distribution would you recommend?
> >
> > Slackware.
>
> full ACK. i use slackware, too.. no need to change (from my point of
> view)
>
> --
> florian schmidt
>
Another vote for Slackware. I try others from time to time, and always
end up going back. If you want bells and whistles it may not be for
you though.
Beware. I'm using slack7.1 with the 2.2.16 kernel. I downloaded source
for kernel 2.4.4 and built it and mysterious problems crop up, mostly
to do with inserting modules. I've tried tinkering with modules.conf
but just today I ended up doing a clean install of 7.1.
I look forward to getting 7.2 which hopefully will include a configuration
for 2.4 kernels that has the problems ironed out.
--
Replace ragwind.localdomain with rahul for a working email address
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From: "hassard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RedHat 7.1 PS2 mouse problems...
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 14:30:56 -0400
In my case (RH6.2 o.k.,
RH7.1 error message >Cannot open device /dev/mouse Device or resource busy)
it was the mouse and an older ISA network card (Netgear EA201) both
attempting to use IRQ12.
Suggestions:
(1) Check out the files /proc/i* to see what IRQs/interrupts the system
knows about.
If there is a card in your PC that the system doesn't know about, you've
close to
isolating the source of the problem.
(2) Pull out all the older cards in your PC and get the mouse to work: then
put the
cards back in, one at a time.
Jeffrey Hood wrote in message ...
>I upgraded a RedHat 6.2 system (Celeron 300/64MB) which was working fine
>with X to RedHat 7.1... The graphical installer worked fine, and so does
>everything else, with the exception of X... I get the following message:
>
>Cannot open device /dev/mouse
>...
>Device or resource busy
>
>I updated the mouseconfig and Xconfigurator (found bug fixes...) but no
>help...
>
>A RedHat support engineer thought that it sounded like an IRQ conflict,
>but he didn't offer any solutions...
>
>Can anyone suggest anything to try (other than re-installing 6.2...) or
>how to identify/fix IRQ conflicts in Linux...
>
>Thanks in advance...
>
>JH
>
>
>--
>
>Jeffrey Hood
>HM Consulting, Inc.
>jhood [you-know-why] at hmcon.com
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From: "Michael Pye" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Security Testing
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 19:31:51 +0100
Hmm. As asking a hacker not a bit risky. I'd rather the temptation to fuck
up the machine wasn't there... ;P
MP
"SneakyPeach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Ask a hacker to see if he can get in. At www.netcop.com you can scan via
> their quickscan webpage or download scanner 2.0 onto a windows computer
and
> type the IP of the Linux box.
>
> "Michael Pye" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:ekyM6.20158$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I'm looking for some help in testing my web server and intranet
(connected
> > to the web through a proxy, though not SUPPOSED to be accessible)
> security.
> >
> > Identifying exposed IP addresses and associated open ports, along with
> > possible exploitation of these connections, holes in the firewall etc...
> >
> > Can anyone help me with utilities, techniques etc likely to be used in a
> > hacker's attack and ways to probe for such weaknesses.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > MP
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: which linux dist?
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 20:31:04 +0200
Carl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Beware. I'm using slack7.1 with the 2.2.16 kernel. I downloaded source
> for kernel 2.4.4 and built it and mysterious problems crop up, mostly
> to do with inserting modules. I've tried tinkering with modules.conf
You need new modutils (binutils, fileutils, etc. ..) to build
and run 2.4 kernels, as the Changes file says!
> but just today I ended up doing a clean install of 7.1.
> I look forward to getting 7.2 which hopefully will include a configuration
> for 2.4 kernels that has the problems ironed out.
There are no problems. This is like claiming that getting unleaded
petrol for your new car is a problem that needs "ironing out", because
you didn't need to for your old car.
Peter
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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 20:54:30 +0200
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: rsync with ssh and no password prompt
Neil Zanella wrote:
>
> Thanks for your suggestion which is basically the contents of one of the question
> from the FAQ I referred to earlier but with the client and server switched
> around. I tried both your approach and the FAQ's approach but in both cases
> I am still prompted for a password hence the expect script.
[SNIP]
Perhaps your sshd_config is wrong, try connecting with ssh -v -v ...,
post the output and your sshd_config from the machine you're connecting
to.
This way someone will be able to help you, I'm sure...
Michael Heiming
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From: "Michael Pye" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Routing keystrokes through network connection
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 19:47:17 +0100
I'm not overly familiar with the networking side of unix or linux, so I was
wondering as follows
Is there a way to manually open a TCP/IP connection and send (almost) all
the communications manually. As in logging in to an FTP server and entering
all commands yourself rather than using a client to parse them for you.
After all, that's how it was originally done isn't it?
Thanks
MP
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