Linux-Misc Digest #950, Volume #27 Sat, 26 May 01 23:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Why ext2 filesystem check after some time? (Christopher Fairbairn)
Apache help needed (Lamar Thomas)
Creative Ensoniq AudioPCI ES4815 (es1371) problem (Neurophyre)
Help needed with Lilo dual boot (Mike)
Re: Apache help needed (Tom St Denis)
Re: Why ext2 filesystem check after some time? (Dave Uhring)
Re: Debian: Installed package list (Michael Perry)
Mandrake-8.0 + Realtek 8139B ether card? (Ish Rattan)
Re: Switch from Gnome to KDE ("ivorybones")
Re: Creative Ensoniq AudioPCI ES4815 (es1371) problem (Dave Uhring)
Re: Debian: Installed package list (Colin Watson)
2 MP3 Questions - Static and Bit Rate (Justo M. Casablanca)
recapture stdout ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Apache help needed (Lamar Thomas)
Re: Apache help needed (Tom St Denis)
Re: Apache help needed (Lamar Thomas)
shutdown quirk (faeychyld)
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From: Christopher Fairbairn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why ext2 filesystem check after some time?
Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 13:09:39 +1200
Hi,
Kai Gro�johann wrote:
> Every once in a while, the system tells me `mount count exceeded --
> file system check forced' or something like this.
>
> Why does it do that?
The ext2 filesystem includes a field on the actual harddrive telling the OS
how many times before the filesystem can be mounted before it should be
checked.
This is just done, to insure reliability overall - as you said in most
cases it won't do much, but it doesn't hurt either.
I'm pretty new to Linux so can't tell you the name, but there is an utility
which you can use to set this maximum mount before rescan value.
If you boot your OS quite often, i.e. are not a server, it does get anoying
as the default value is quite small...
Perhaps you should set your value to a larger one, if the time delay duing
reboots every so often is getting anoying....
Hope it helps,
Christopher Fairbairn.
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From: Lamar Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Apache help needed
Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 01:35:51 GMT
I just installed RH 7.1 and I did NOT configure the firewall during the
install (I will go back and do that later after I get everything up and
running. Besides, nothing is on this system but the Linux OS). Anyway,
I am trying to get the Apache web server and the FTP server up and
running. I went through the steps in RH's "Customization Guide" but I
can not connect to either server. From my linux system I CAN pull up my
web page but I can NOT access if from another system (i.e. from work).
How do I get access from outside my system, and let everyone else have
access too?
I also can not connect to my FTP server. I get an "access denied"
message. Someone told me that I needed to conffigure the "hosts.allow"
file by they didn't tell me how to do that. Any ideas what I need to do
to get www and web working? Thanks for any help.
Lamar
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Neurophyre)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Creative Ensoniq AudioPCI ES4815 (es1371) problem
Date: 26 May 2001 18:42:27 -0700
Hi, I'm running Debian 2.2r3 with kernel 2.2.19 on an Asus A7v w/Duron
650. I've got a Creative Ensoniq AudioPCI sound card, on the top of
the box it claims "model ES4815". After a bit of trial and error
getting it to work a couple months ago, I found that the es1371 driver
works with it, so I have it compiled statically into the kernel, not
as a module.
My problem is that the driver seems to have weird issues with queueing
sounds when other sounds are playing, and with freezing for a
noticeable period of time after certain sounds are played, when trying
to play sounds from other programs.
First, the freezing problem. This primarly happens with the console
beep in KDE2's 'konsole' program. I can make the beep in konsole as
many times as I like with no problems, but after a beep has been
played in konsole, the sound driver goes into a weird state for around
30 seconds or more, where if any other program is loaded that tries to
play sounds (xmms, snes9x, rocknes, and so forth) there will either be
an error (rocknes says "Cannot find sound card"), or more commonly,
the program will simply freeze hard for 30 seconds or so, and then
start executing normally as soon as the driver decides it wants to
work again.
Secondly, the queueing problem. A good example of this is xmms +
gaim. When I'm playing mp3s in xmms, if events happen in gaim that
would normally cause a sound effect, I hear nothing... until the
current mp3 is done playing. Then, all the sound effects seem to be
played at once, that were made by gaim during the time the mp3 was
playing! This is, obviously, sub-optimal behavior. Interestingly, if
a console beep was made during mp3 play, it will often be played and
then the driver will freeze just like it does in the above
description, for some period of time, before it 'unfreezes' and xmms
goes to the next file in the playlist.
Any ideas if this is a fixable problem? It was present in 2.2.18 as
well as 2.2.19.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike)
Subject: Help needed with Lilo dual boot
Date: 26 May 2001 18:46:17 -0700
Hello everyone.
Please forgive the newbie-ness of this post. I have just installed
Redhat Linux version 7.1 on and 8 Gig drive. What I would like to do
is partition the drive so that I can boot to Win98 and Linux. I have
read that Lilo can do this, but I have been unable to find any
directions for this.
I am willing to start all over from scratch, but I dont know what to
do. Do I install Windows first, then Linux? Should I make 2
partitions first?
If someone could point me in the direction of a URL that can explain
the process I would really appreciate it.
Thanks a lot.
Mike
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From: Tom St Denis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Apache help needed
Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 01:47:44 GMT
Lamar Thomas wrote:
>
> I just installed RH 7.1 and I did NOT configure the firewall during the
> install (I will go back and do that later after I get everything up and
> running. Besides, nothing is on this system but the Linux OS). Anyway,
>
> I am trying to get the Apache web server and the FTP server up and
> running. I went through the steps in RH's "Customization Guide" but I
> can not connect to either server. From my linux system I CAN pull up my
>
> web page but I can NOT access if from another system (i.e. from work).
> How do I get access from outside my system, and let everyone else have
> access too?
>
> I also can not connect to my FTP server. I get an "access denied"
> message. Someone told me that I needed to conffigure the "hosts.allow"
> file by they didn't tell me how to do that. Any ideas what I need to do
> to get www and web working? Thanks for any help.
I'm a linux newbie too but I managed to build and run Apache within
about 15 mins or so. Make sure you bind Apache to your outside IP as I
think it defaults to localhost (none too useful).
Tom
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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why ext2 filesystem check after some time?
Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 20:48:17 -0500
Kai Gro�johann wrote:
> Every once in a while, the system tells me `mount count exceeded --
> file system check forced' or something like this.
>
> Why does it do that?
>
> My thinking is: either the system is sure the filesystem is okay, then
> why run fsck? Or the system isn't sure, then run fsck every time.
> But why run it after 20 (or so) mounts?
>
> kai
Because small file corruptions can occur. If the filesystem is unmounted
normally, they are not detected. In order to prevent a serious
accumulation of these corrupt inodes, the system undergoes a file system
check after some number of mounts.
The system does not run fsck on each boot because of the time it takes to
check the filesystem. You would scream bloody hell if your 60GB drive had
to be fscked on every boot. Solution is NOT to reboot. It is unnecessary
unless you replace the kernel or some hardware.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry)
Subject: Re: Debian: Installed package list
Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 01:48:45 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 26 May 2001 14:09:02 +0100, SammyTheSnake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <9emg94$2ut$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Colin Watson wrote:
>>* Tong * <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>How can I get a list of what packages are installed on my Debian?
>>
>> dpkg -l
>>
>>or:
>>
>> dpkg --get-selections
>>
>>(The former has more detail, the latter is machine-parseable.)
>
> err, just what are you trying to do with the output of dpkg -l that you
> can't do automatically?
>
> Cheers & God bless
> SammyTheSnake
> --
> Sam.Penny @ Ntlworld.com | Looking for a computer related
> Linux, Hardware & Juggling specialist :-) | job, if you can help, e-mail me :)
> Wheels: bike, 'ickle bike, and unicycle. | /o \/ Working on 5 ball 1/2 shower
> Boxen: K6-266@300, dual Celery500 & Nx486 | \__/\ & some 6 / 7 ball exercises
I use this kind of output at work often since we do a variety of linux
builds and its nice to compare or diff the differences in installs. We
do the same thing with redhat installations on occasion. We just export the
installed rpms to a text file and then compare them. Once you get things in
a text file, you can use some pretty neat tools to look at patterns of the
installations, etc.
The other tool I tend to use these days personally is one of the console-apt
programs like aptitude.
--
Michael Perry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Ish Rattan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mandrake-8.0 + Realtek 8139B ether card?
Date: 26 May 2001 22:02:55 -0500
Hello,
I have a working MAndrake-9.0 system using ne2000 compatible NIC. I
just got another NIC Realtk-8139B, what is the module name for this
card, I did see 8139too in /lib/modules/2.4.3*/kernel/drivers/net
but did not use it yet! Any pointers?
- ishwar
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From: "ivorybones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Switch from Gnome to KDE
Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 02:13:52 GMT
In article <R0MP6.70137$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Buck
Turgidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
How big is the harddisk? On an older machine with a hardisk of less than
2Gb, I could not fit bothe KDE and Gnome. On a newer machine with a 10Gb
disk, both fit easily. If you have the space, get some new RedHat system
disks from www.cheapbytes.com for just a few dollars. Upgrade your
installation and install both. If you don't have the space, still get the
system disks and upgrade your system to the KDE desktop only. The RedHat
install disks are very easy to use.
Don
> How would I go about switching from Gnome to KDE on an RH 6.1 machine?
> It was installed with the former, but I'd like to try the latter. Many
> thanks!!
>
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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Creative Ensoniq AudioPCI ES4815 (es1371) problem
Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 21:19:49 -0500
Neurophyre wrote:
> Hi, I'm running Debian 2.2r3 with kernel 2.2.19 on an Asus A7v w/Duron
> 650. I've got a Creative Ensoniq AudioPCI sound card, on the top of
> the box it claims "model ES4815". After a bit of trial and error
> getting it to work a couple months ago, I found that the es1371 driver
> works with it, so I have it compiled statically into the kernel, not
> as a module.
>
> My problem is that the driver seems to have weird issues with queueing
> sounds when other sounds are playing, and with freezing for a
> noticeable period of time after certain sounds are played, when trying
> to play sounds from other programs.
>
> First, the freezing problem. This primarly happens with the console
> beep in KDE2's 'konsole' program. I can make the beep in konsole as
> many times as I like with no problems, but after a beep has been
> played in konsole, the sound driver goes into a weird state for around
> 30 seconds or more, where if any other program is loaded that tries to
> play sounds (xmms, snes9x, rocknes, and so forth) there will either be
> an error (rocknes says "Cannot find sound card"), or more commonly,
> the program will simply freeze hard for 30 seconds or so, and then
> start executing normally as soon as the driver decides it wants to
> work again.
>
> Secondly, the queueing problem. A good example of this is xmms +
> gaim. When I'm playing mp3s in xmms, if events happen in gaim that
> would normally cause a sound effect, I hear nothing... until the
> current mp3 is done playing. Then, all the sound effects seem to be
> played at once, that were made by gaim during the time the mp3 was
> playing! This is, obviously, sub-optimal behavior. Interestingly, if
> a console beep was made during mp3 play, it will often be played and
> then the driver will freeze just like it does in the above
> description, for some period of time, before it 'unfreezes' and xmms
> goes to the next file in the playlist.
>
> Any ideas if this is a fixable problem? It was present in 2.2.18 as
> well as 2.2.19.
>
Can't help with xmms, but the problem does not lie with the es1371 driver
in the kernel, whether compiled in or loaded as a module. I had the same
problem when I was using the on-board via686a sound chip WRT KDE. Just
wait a few seconds and KDE releases the audio device. BTW, I use a 2.4.4
kernel on one machine and a 2.2.19 on another. Problem exists on both.
Perhaps if you try using Gnome??? Not me, I detest Gnome.
If you question what kind of sound card you have, the best place to
determine that is the big chip on the card. It will be marked with
something like ES1373 as on my card.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson)
Crossposted-To: linux.debian.user
Subject: Re: Debian: Installed package list
Date: 27 May 2001 02:13:58 GMT
SammyTheSnake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <9emg94$2ut$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Colin Watson wrote:
>>* Tong * <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>How can I get a list of what packages are installed on my Debian?
>>
>> dpkg -l
>>
>>or:
>>
>> dpkg --get-selections
>>
>>(The former has more detail, the latter is machine-parseable.)
>
>err, just what are you trying to do with the output of dpkg -l that you
>can't do automatically?
(a) Feed it to dpkg --set-selections (well, possible, but fiddly);
(b) Not have reasonably-sized package names truncated (you can "fix"
this by setting COLUMNS, but it's ugly).
Maybe I should have said "conveniently machine-parseable". Anyway, the
output of 'dpkg -l' isn't really meant to be processed: if you want the
installed version and short description for some reason, you're probably
better off looking in /var/lib/dpkg/status yourself, which will be
faster in any case.
--
Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
"Microsoft deprived consumers of software innovation that they very
well may have found valuable." - USA vs. MS findings, para. 410
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From: Justo M. Casablanca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 2 MP3 Questions - Static and Bit Rate
Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 02:30:06 -0000
I have 2 questions concerning MP3's in general:
1. Out of 6 music CD's that I have converted to MP files, only 1 doesn't
play well. The MP3's burned from this CD have "static" when I play
them. Playing music from the CD itself sounds fine. All of my other
MP3's (extracted from other music CD's) sound fine. Any ideas ?
2. I have RTFM, gone to linuxdocs.org, etc, and still don't understand
what this bit-rate setting is for MP3 decoders (or is it the *.wav
extractor ?). Could anyone enlighten me (in layman's terms), and
maybe direct me to some docs ? I use Grip for my extracting and
encoding, with either Lame or Gogo as my encoders.
Thx in advance for your help !!
Justo M. Casablanca
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: recapture stdout
Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 02:20:25 GMT
After I log into a remote server and start a program in the background, then
exit, can I later login again and recapture the output to stdout on my
terminal? Or can I bring that process to the foreground? Thanks.
--
Dave
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From: Lamar Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Apache help needed
Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 02:42:24 GMT
Tom St Denis wrote:
> Lamar Thomas wrote:
> >
> > I just installed RH 7.1 and I did NOT configure the firewall during the
> > install (I will go back and do that later after I get everything up and
> > running. Besides, nothing is on this system but the Linux OS). Anyway,
> >
> > I am trying to get the Apache web server and the FTP server up and
> > running. I went through the steps in RH's "Customization Guide" but I
> > can not connect to either server. From my linux system I CAN pull up my
> >
> > web page but I can NOT access if from another system (i.e. from work).
> > How do I get access from outside my system, and let everyone else have
> > access too?
> >
> > I also can not connect to my FTP server. I get an "access denied"
> > message. Someone told me that I needed to conffigure the "hosts.allow"
> > file by they didn't tell me how to do that. Any ideas what I need to do
> > to get www and web working? Thanks for any help.
>
> I'm a linux newbie too but I managed to build and run Apache within
> about 15 mins or so. Make sure you bind Apache to your outside IP as I
> think it defaults to localhost (none too useful).
>
> Tom
Nice, but not much help
Lamar
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From: Tom St Denis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Apache help needed
Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 02:48:12 GMT
Lamar Thomas wrote:
>
> Tom St Denis wrote:
>
> > Lamar Thomas wrote:
> > >
> > > I just installed RH 7.1 and I did NOT configure the firewall during the
> > > install (I will go back and do that later after I get everything up and
> > > running. Besides, nothing is on this system but the Linux OS). Anyway,
> > >
> > > I am trying to get the Apache web server and the FTP server up and
> > > running. I went through the steps in RH's "Customization Guide" but I
> > > can not connect to either server. From my linux system I CAN pull up my
> > >
> > > web page but I can NOT access if from another system (i.e. from work).
> > > How do I get access from outside my system, and let everyone else have
> > > access too?
> > >
> > > I also can not connect to my FTP server. I get an "access denied"
> > > message. Someone told me that I needed to conffigure the "hosts.allow"
> > > file by they didn't tell me how to do that. Any ideas what I need to do
> > > to get www and web working? Thanks for any help.
> >
> > I'm a linux newbie too but I managed to build and run Apache within
> > about 15 mins or so. Make sure you bind Apache to your outside IP as I
> > think it defaults to localhost (none too useful).
> >
> > Tom
>
> Nice, but not much help
Well excuuuuuuse me. I'm a total newbie (with a httpd running mind you,
so nyah nyah!). Just thought I would offer what little help I can.
Tom
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From: Lamar Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Apache help needed
Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 02:52:11 GMT
Tom St Denis wrote:
> Lamar Thomas wrote:
> >
> > Tom St Denis wrote:
> >
> > > Lamar Thomas wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I just installed RH 7.1 and I did NOT configure the firewall during the
> > > > install (I will go back and do that later after I get everything up and
> > > > running. Besides, nothing is on this system but the Linux OS). Anyway,
> > > >
> > > > I am trying to get the Apache web server and the FTP server up and
> > > > running. I went through the steps in RH's "Customization Guide" but I
> > > > can not connect to either server. From my linux system I CAN pull up my
> > > >
> > > > web page but I can NOT access if from another system (i.e. from work).
> > > > How do I get access from outside my system, and let everyone else have
> > > > access too?
> > > >
> > > > I also can not connect to my FTP server. I get an "access denied"
> > > > message. Someone told me that I needed to conffigure the "hosts.allow"
> > > > file by they didn't tell me how to do that. Any ideas what I need to do
> > > > to get www and web working? Thanks for any help.
> > >
> > > I'm a linux newbie too but I managed to build and run Apache within
> > > about 15 mins or so. Make sure you bind Apache to your outside IP as I
> > > think it defaults to localhost (none too useful).
> > >
> > > Tom
> >
> > Nice, but not much help
>
> Well excuuuuuuse me. I'm a total newbie (with a httpd running mind you,
> so nyah nyah!). Just thought I would offer what little help I can.
>
> Tom
Sorry to offend Tom, I'm new to Linux too.
Lamar
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Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 12:58:34 +1000
From: faeychyld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: shutdown quirk
With all the redhat installations I have
done, I have noticed initialy, that shutdwon
can be called from the command line by user and root.
After some time as the system ages, it suddenly refuses
user access to shutdown and declares root use only.
Subsequent to this, shutdown then requires the full path
" /sbin/shutdown " before it will work.
I know this can be fixed by changing the permissions
of 'shutdown' and editing the path statement to include
'sbin'.
But it did initialy work!!! anyone?
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