Linux-Misc Digest #951, Volume #18 Mon, 8 Feb 99 10:13:22 EST
Contents:
Re: wierd Communicator basckspace/delete key behavior ("Frank T. Sronce")
Re: Is Microsoft a nasty company ? I'm asking you this question. (Bjorn Borud)
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Michael Powe)
Re: K6-2 and Linux, Are there any Bug? (Mark Tranchant)
Non-anonymous chroot-ed ftp. (Alex Bezas)
Re: Linux - Where To Start??? (Nick Dreyer)
HP ScanJet 4p and SANE: /dev/scanner? (Guido Gonzato)
Re: COM for Linux? (Stu)
Re: Linux: Fight for survival or on victory march? (Graham Murray)
Re: HP ScanJet 4p and SANE: /dev/scanner? (Edwin Johnson)
Re: HElp, i can't compile (Niel Markwick)
Re: K6-2 and Linux, Are there any Bug? ("George G")
Re: Is Microsoft a nasty company ? I'm asking you this question. (Ketil Z Malde)
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From: "Frank T. Sronce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: wierd Communicator basckspace/delete key behavior
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 18:57:19 +0000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I don't know what I did, but the backsapce and delete keys are
> acting strange. I had been running Communicator 4.08 with XFree6
> 3.3.3-1 and did something that changed the behavior of the backsapce
> and delete keys so that they delete the character *after* the
> insertion cursor in any editable Communicator window (such as
> mail compose windows, forms in HTML pages, address book entries)
> instead of the character before the insertion cursor.
>
> I didn't see anything in any of the config files for communicator
> that appears to cause this behavior. I even tried upgrading to
> Communicator 4.5, but the same behavior persists.
>
> So it this caused by some Communicator setting, or is it an Xfree86
> parameter? The backspace and delete work ok in xterms and xemacs.
>
> Any help in fixing this would be greatly appreciated, as it is a
> most annoying way to edit for a typist as poor as me.
>
> thanks
>
> John
>
> -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
> http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
I don't know if it's related or not- my Linux machine came with the
Backspace key defined as a Delete, in order to be compatible with older
terminals that don't have both (WHY that's still standard, these days,
I've no idea, but that's the way it came). I fixed it with...
%loadkeys
keycode 14 = BackSpace
%
It gives really curious behavior, otherwise, because a lot of programs
apparently anticipate this problem and redefine the keys themselves
internally.
It's nothing I would've ever thought of- I found it in a Linux "How to
configure your keyboard" FAQ.
Kiz
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From: Bjorn Borud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,alt.conspiracy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.x,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Is Microsoft a nasty company ? I'm asking you this question.
Date: 08 Feb 1999 13:51:43 +0100
[[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dex)]
|
| I taught myself DOS and later Windows, but I never needed an
| instruction manual. Windows is only difficult for users who don't
| have the guts to do anything they don't know about. For Linux
| however, I do need a manual. In DOS, some 6 years ago, I discovered
| that typing HELP gave the answer to my questions. Linux should have
| something as easy to use. In fact, in Linux you absolutely need to
| know the (most important) key-combinations because else you're
| doomed.
I don't see the point in comparing a glorified boot-loader and simple
file management tool (DOS) to something like the Bourne Again shell
and the basic UNIX tools.
of course DOS is easier to learn; there isn't a lot of things to know
since it can't do much.
-Bj�rn
--
Bj�rn Borud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <URL:http://borud.priv.no/>
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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: 07 Feb 1999 23:38:12 -0800
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>>>>> "Kinkster" == Kinkster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Kinkster> You may shove it up your ass if you don't like it.
>> Geez, what a jerk. Get your head out of that stinky dark
>> place. Guy tries to be nice to you and this is your payback.
>> Let me guess ... you're a 15 y/o mama's boy with not enough
>> homework to keep you out of newsgroups. Too bad.
Kinkster> You can also shove it up your ass :)
>> Damned clueless AOL'ers. (I couldn't resist. ;-)
Kinkster> That's OK , it just shows how IGNORANT you are. If
Kinkster> you'll check the headers (like mom's little boy should
Kinkster> have done before making comments) you'll see that I'm
Kinkster> using an ISP with just a AOL name typed in my
Kinkster> newsreader. Duhhhhhhh, talk about "clueless."
So, you're a liar as well as a punk. Well, kids will be kids, I
guess.
Get outta town, peanut.
mp
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Michael Powe Portland, Oregon USA
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"Three hours a day will produce as much as a man ought to write."
-- Anthony Trollope
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From: Mark Tranchant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: K6-2 and Linux, Are there any Bug?
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 09:15:57 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Put BootGUI=0 in the [Options] section of C:\MSDOS.SYS, which forces
Win95 to boot to a DOS prompt. Then use a CONFIG.SYS menu to choose
between DOS, Win95 and Linux.
Mark.
Rick Onanian wrote:
>
> Javier Pulido wrote:
>
> > ��SOS!!
> >
> > Problems with the booting of linux in a computer AMD K6-2 (300 MHz) with
> > i430TX (no AGP) and 128 MB, two hard drives and 1 CDROM. Can you help me?
> >
> > After many attempts of booting with several kernels (2.0.29, 2.0.30, 2.1.48,
> > 2.0.35, 2.0.36) through a boot-disk, LILO or LOADLIN (Symbol of System,
> > option F8 of Windows95), I realize only procedure that was operating:
> >
> > 1. I Start Windows95/98 (graphic environment)
> > 2. I restart in MSDOS-Mode
> > 3. C:> loadlin zImage2_2 root=/dev/hdc3 mem=128M no-hlt
>
> I have heard of someone who ran loadlin similar to you (boot into win, then
> restart in dos mode) and it wouldn't work. It did work, however, if they didn't
> boot into win first - do a cold boot, and when it says starting windows 9x, hist
> the F8 key, and choose "Command Prompt Only", or even better (probably more
> likely to work:): "Safe Mode Command Prompt Only." The latter will totally skip
> loading any piece of M$ software that's not necesary to give you a prompt. Then
> try your loadlin...linux shouldn't have trouble throwing out M$ then..
>
> Other possibility: Make sure your kernel supports: FAT, FAT32 (VFAT), and
> UMSDOS. All three.
>
> Worst case scenario: boot disk. Or chop your partition, and lilo...
>
> rick
>
> >
> >
> > If I don�t use option no-hlt, the system starts but is hung in little
> > minutes, and it shown me all the processor registers, the stack and the
> > message "idle task may not sleep".
> >
> > In the attempts rest of starting were remained hung when was ending the
> > load kernel in report: Loading linux ....... (!!stop!!)
> >
> > My system crashes while it�s booting. I
> >
> > I only can boot linux in three steps:
> >
> > 1> loading Windows95
> >
> > 2> Restart in MSDOS MODE
> > 3> loadlin kernel2.2 /dev/hdc3 no-hlt (root in /dev/hdc3)
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From: Alex Bezas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Non-anonymous chroot-ed ftp.
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 14:10:31 +0200
Hello everyone...
We are recently trying to set up personal ftp Upload areas for several
client users.
The obvious way is to let them make normal ftp connections, find
themselves in their
home dirs. and then upload their stuff.
However, in this way they can browse through the entire / filesystem,
which is obviously not much desirable.
Anonymous ftp is a solution since it chroots to /home/ftp , and then
use specific "hidden" dirs for each user.
But the most attractive of all would be a combination: Normal ftp
logins (not-anonymous, but with user and pass),
that would chroot to the ~user dir., so that the user sees his home as
"/".
I tried defining these users in /etc/passwd with chrooted shells, but
that is not acceptable since
the login shell changes to the UID of the logged-in user, and so chroot
cannot execute.
I believe there must be a way through the FTP server setup.
Any hints or ideas?
Thanks in advance,
Alex
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nick Dreyer)
Subject: Re: Linux - Where To Start???
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 06:07:07 GMT
Take a look at http://www.ssc.com/linux/apps/ftp.html
or the Linux Developement Project (LDP) at
http://sunsite.unc.edu/mdw/LDP/gs/node4.html
Good luck, |\|.
On Wed, 27 Jan 1999 16:36:40 -0800, "Paul Bunchuk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wroth:
>I m totally new to Linux my experience is with Windows and NT. Where to I
>start? I want to install Linux and start learning it. In particular I am
>looking for a list of fies to dwnld for the OS and where to get them.
>
>--
>Thank you,
>
>Paul Bunchuk
>Ft. Lauderdale, Fl
>
>
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From: Guido Gonzato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: HP ScanJet 4p and SANE: /dev/scanner?
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 15:53:07 +0100
Hi there,
I'm trying hard to get the ScanJet 4p working with SANE, but a problem
is causing me quite a headache: what/where on earth is the device that
corresponds to the scanner? I read in the docs that it should be
something like /dev/sg* and I have tried everything - to no avail.
If anyone has succeeded installing the 4p under SANE, I'd appreciate
some directions, preferably by e-mail.
Thank you in advance,
Guido =8-)
--
========================================================================
Guido Gonzato | Universita' di Bologna (Italy)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Settore di Geofisica - fax +39 051
6305058
Linux sysadm & LDP Author | Viale Berti Pichat 8, 40127 Bologna
(Italy)
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From: Stu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: COM for Linux?
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 11:06:20 +0000
There is something called EntireX which allows the use of ActiveX on UNIX,
and includes DCOM. I have only heard of it but have never tried it. There is
a technical spec. at
http://www.sagafyi.com/site/solution/som/entirex/e_tech.htm
You can download it for free from somewhere, but unfortunately I can't
remember. Sorry, perhaps someone else knows more.
Aaron Perrin wrote:
> Does anyone know if a Component Object Model (COM) port is available for
> linux?
> If not, is any group or company planning or developing such a port?
>
> I'd like to work on some applications for linux that would utilize
> distributed COM
> components, and I want to know if this is possible.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Aaron Perrin
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Graham Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux: Fight for survival or on victory march?
Date: 08 Feb 1999 13:58:39 +0000
In alt.os.linux, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> What Netscape is this. Mine seems to look and act indentical to windows.
> There is 1 difference, no 2. It runs faster and doesn't crash.
3. Netscape 4.5 on windows "auto-completes" entries typed into the
URL. On linux it does not and you have to type in the complete URL.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Edwin Johnson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: HP ScanJet 4p and SANE: /dev/scanner?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 8 Feb 1999 14:00:25 GMT
I have SANE installed and working for a Nikon scanner on the Slackware
distribution. Watch when the system boots and you will see for the scanner
probably a /dev/sga or /dev/sga listed. Then make a symbolic link
/dev/scanner to that. The program find-scanner, which is with the SANE
package, should also tell you.
...Edwin
On Mon, 08 Feb 1999 15:53:07 +0100, Guido Gonzato
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi there,
>
>I'm trying hard to get the ScanJet 4p working with SANE, but a problem
>is causing me quite a headache: what/where on earth is the device that
>corresponds to the scanner? I read in the docs that it should be
>something like /dev/sg* and I have tried everything - to no avail.
>
>If anyone has succeeded installing the 4p under SANE, I'd appreciate
>some directions, preferably by e-mail.
>
>Thank you in advance,
> Guido =8-)
>
>
>--
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Guido Gonzato | Universita' di Bologna (Italy)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Settore di Geofisica - fax +39 051
>6305058
>Linux sysadm & LDP Author | Viale Berti Pichat 8, 40127 Bologna
>(Italy)
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~ Edwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~
~ http://www.prysm.net/~elj ~
~ ~
~ "Once you have flown, you will walk the ~
~ earth with your eyes turned skyward, ~
~ for there you have been, there you long ~
~ to return." -- da Vinci ~
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From: Niel Markwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: HElp, i can't compile
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 14:41:15 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jarvis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip void main() discussion]
>No, i do not want to know how to compile a c program. I want to know
>what went wrong on my linux box. I have compiled the same c program on
>linux else where but i get that error on my system, thats the reason i
>am asking on linux newsgroups.
Your program is not legal in C because declaring main() as returning
void is not legal.
The compiler you used in Linux [correctly] reports this.
Your other compilers [incorrectly] do not. Therefore, your problem is
with the other compilers.
See the extracts below from the comp.lang.c FAQ list:
Niel.
==========
11.12a: What's the correct declaration of main()?
A: Either int main(), int main(void), or int main(int argc,
char *argv[]) (with alternate spellings of argc and *argv[]
obviously allowed). See also questions 11.12b to 11.15 below.
References: ISO Sec. 5.1.2.2.1, Sec. G.5.1; H&S Sec. 20.1 p.
416; CT&P Sec. 3.10 pp. 50-51.
11.12b: Can I declare main() as void, to shut off these annoying
"main returns no value" messages?
A: No. main() must be declared as returning an int, and as
taking either zero or two arguments, of the appropriate types.
If you're calling exit() but still getting warnings, you may
have to insert a redundant return statement (or use some kind
of "not reached" directive, if available).
Declaring a function as void does not merely shut off or
rearrange warnings: it may also result in a different function
call/return sequence, incompatible with what the caller (in
main's case, the C run-time startup code) expects.
[snip]
11.14: I believe that declaring void main() can't fail, since I'm
calling exit() instead of returning, and anyway my operating
system ignores a program's exit/return status.
A: It doesn't matter whether main() returns or not, or whether
anyone looks at the status; the problem is that when main() is
misdeclared, its caller (the runtime startup code) may not even
be able to *call* it correctly (due to the potential clash of
calling conventions; see question 11.12b).
It has been reported that programs using void main() and
compiled using BC++ 4.5 can crash. Some compilers (including
DEC C V4.1 and gcc with certain warnings enabled) will complain
about void main().
Your operating system may ignore the exit status, and
void main() may work for you, but it is not portable and not
correct.
11.15: The book I've been using, _C Programing for the Compleat Idiot_,
always uses void main().
A: Perhaps its author counts himself among the target audience.
Many books unaccountably use void main() in examples, and assert
that it's correct. They're wrong.
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From: "George G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: K6-2 and Linux, Are there any Bug?
Date: 8 Feb 1999 14:27:27 GMT
> Rick Onanian wrote:
> >
> > Javier Pulido wrote:
> > > Problems with the booting of linux in a computer AMD K6-2 (300 MHz)
with
> > > i430TX (no AGP) and 128 MB, two hard drives and 1 CDROM. Can you
help me?
Dunno if this will help with your system, but it worked on my test-bed 486.
I installed Slackware 2.0.32 on my first HDD (1G) ages ago. It's always
been plugged in as primary master.
Then I added a couple of itsy-bitsy 165M HDDs (just for win95 stuff) as
prim slave and sec master. Modifying lilo to recognise the new drives is
well documented, so I won't go into it here.
The trick to making this setup work was physically disconnecting the linux
drive, then setting the jumpers on hdb (temporarily) to prim master while
installing Win95. Once the thing was in, I swapped jumpers to revert the
drive to prim slave. Now, when lilo boots into Win95, it simply refuses to
recognise the prim master. Instead, it treats hdb and hdc as C:\ and D:\.
Reads from the CD-ROM too. Doesn't see Linux on the prim master at all, but
that's to be expected from a Microsoft product :)
The tricky bit came when I recently added extra RAM. It appeared to confuse
the Win95 registry. I think it had to do with system files on the third
hard drive (remember, it thinks it's the second HDD under Win95, not the
actual third). In the end, I just wiped C:\ and D:\ and reinstalled. This
combination still works (at least as well as Win95 COULD be expected to
work).
George
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Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,alt.conspiracy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.x,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Is Microsoft a nasty company ? I'm asking you this question.
From: Ketil Z Malde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 08 Feb 1999 15:50:46 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dex) writes:
> For Linux however, I do need a manual. In DOS, some 6 years ago, I
> discovered that typing HELP gave the answer to my questions. Linux
> should have something as easy to use
Does "HELP" provide something "man" doesn't?
> In fact, in Linux you absolutely need to know the (most important)
> key-combinations because else you're doomed.
What "key-combinations"? Ctrl-Alt-Del? Ctrl-Alt-SysRq?
Alt-(F1..F6)?
Or are you perhaps confusing Linux with some application?
-kzm
--
If I haven't seen further, it is by standing in the footprints of giants
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