On 7/6/26 11:29 AM, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> + MODULE maintainer

+ Paul E. McKenney

> 
> On 2026-07-05 10:57:44 [+0800], Qingfang Deng wrote:
>> On 7/4/2026 at 12:32 AM, Breno Leitao wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jul 03, 2026 at 03:27:00PM +0800, Qingfang Deng wrote:
>>>> AI-review found an issue: 
>>>> https://sashiko.dev/#/patchset/D9C0245B-608B-4884-8A09-F55BA4A9F948%40doyensec.com
>>>>
>>>> An rcu_barrier() call is needed at the end of ppp_cleanup().
>>>
>>> I was initially unclear why rcu_barrier() would be necessary on a kfree 
>>> path,
>>> but it appears to be required during module unload to ensure that
>>> ppp_release_channel_free() completes before the module's struct rcu_head is
>>> destroyed. Is that the correct understanding?
>>
>> It's required to ensure that all ppp_release_channel_free() callback
>> complete before the text segment of the module is unloaded.
> 
> So either a rcu_barrier() in ppp's module_exit() callback or a
> synchronize_rcu() instead of the call_rcu(). And all this because the
> module RCU callbacks pending which can be invoked after the module has
> been removed. There is a synchronize_rcu() during module exit but this
> is after the module code is gone.
> 
> I'm curious how many modules have a call_rcu() within their code but
> don't have anything to enforce its completion before module removal is
> complete? Wouldn't something like
> 
> 
> diff --git a/kernel/module/main.c b/kernel/module/main.c
> index 46dd8d25a6058..8eae1ea2d6eb4 100644
> --- a/kernel/module/main.c
> +++ b/kernel/module/main.c
> @@ -858,6 +858,9 @@ SYSCALL_DEFINE2(delete_module, const char __user *, 
> name_user,
>               goto out;
>  
>       mutex_unlock(&module_mutex);
> +
> +     /* Ensure all rcu callbacks issued by the module have completed */
> +     rcu_barrier();
>       /* Final destruction now no one is using it. */
>       if (mod->exit != NULL)
>               mod->exit();
> 
> make sense?

This is discussed in Documentation/RCU/rcubarrier.rst and
Documentation/RCU/Design/Requirements/Requirements.rst. The latter
contains:

| Loadable Modules
| ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
| 
| The Linux kernel has loadable modules, and these modules can also be
| unloaded. After a given module has been unloaded, any attempt to call
| one of its functions results in a segmentation fault. The module-unload
| functions must therefore cancel any delayed calls to loadable-module
| functions, for example, any outstanding mod_timer() must be dealt
| with via timer_shutdown_sync() or similar.
| 
| Unfortunately, there is no way to cancel an RCU callback; once you
| invoke call_rcu(), the callback function is eventually going to be
| invoked, unless the system goes down first. Because it is normally
| considered socially irresponsible to crash the system in response to a
| module unload request, we need some other way to deal with in-flight RCU
| callbacks.
| 
| RCU therefore provides rcu_barrier(), which waits until all
| in-flight RCU callbacks have been invoked. If a module uses
| call_rcu(), its exit function should therefore prevent any future
| invocation of call_rcu(), then invoke rcu_barrier(). In theory,
| the underlying module-unload code could invoke rcu_barrier()
| unconditionally, but in practice this would incur unacceptable
| latencies.

I don't know if the last part about unacceptable latencies is still
relevant. I haven't done any measurements myself.

-- 
Thanks,
Petr

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