On Sun, 25 Oct 1998, Michael Talbot-Wilson wrote:

> > On 25 Oct 1998, Manfred Bartz wrote:
> 
> > > In cases where the distribution really matters, the question
> > > should be directed to the distribution specific support channels.
>
> > programs and program versions are different, file locations (e.g.
> > config files) are different, libraries are different, problems
> > are different, answers to common problems are different, and the
> > experiences of users are different.
>
> Its discouraging that people think the Linux distribution is a fixed
> and immutable thing, down to the level of the specific version of a
> specific program.

who said anything about "immutable"?

i was stating an observable set of facts. each distribution IS
different, as is obvious to anyone who has worked with several of them.

wishing it weren't so, or ignoring it isn't going to change that at all.
the only thing that is going to help that is hard work in designing and
then implementing cross-distribution standards, which is what the LSB
project about.

the two stages of a) admitting there is a problem and b) identifying
exactly what the problem is are essential to the solving of a problem.
sticking your head in the sand doesn't help.

> If the situation is as grievous as you make out, there really is no
> room for groups that discuss Linux in general.

it's not all that grievous - differences are a mixed blessing. on the
one hand it can lead to fragmentation and splintering. on the other
hand, there is strength and growth in diversity (monocultures suck).

The LSB seems to be working out a reasonable balance between
standardisation and diversity.


> What I think we are seeing, in these posts and mails touting the
> unique primacy of the distribution, is a marketing ploy by one
> distribution and its minions that is as odious as anything ever tried
> by Microsoft.

why don't you go to slashdot? there's hundreds of clueless newbies
and morons there who insist on reducing everything to some imbecilic
black-and-white Linux vs Microsoft battle.

frankly, i don't give a damn about Microsoft.  I'm sick of seeing the
word.  I don't own any microsoft software, i don't need any microsoft
software, i don't run any microsoft software, and i'm unlikely to ever
do so on any of my machines.  Microsoft is irrelevant.

what you don't realise is that Linux is NOT important BECAUSE it is a
threat to Microsoft's dominance.  

Linux is important (and interesting and useful) because it EXISTS and it
WORKS.  these are reason enough.

> If battle is joined on this, if advocacy groups spring up directing
> hate at particular distributions, it will be a disaster for Linux.
> Therefore, the victims, the other distributions, should quietly bear
> it, and disappear.

where is this "directed hate" that you are moaning about?

mountain.  molehill.  it's extremely annoying when people make one out of
the other.  get the picture?

craig

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craig sanders


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