Linux-Networking Digest #722, Volume #9          Thu, 31 Dec 98 00:13:55 EST

Contents:
  Power line LAN (kama)
  Re: PPP Options Setting for PAP Dialin Server? (Josh Gentry)
  Re: PLEASE HELP !!! PLEASE HELP !!! (dizzy)
  Re: PLEASE HELP !!! PLEASE HELP !!! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Q. Best MTU Settings for UK ISP Demon Internet ?? (David Riley)
  Re: linux and netware 4.11 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  (cheap) Syncronous serial cards for Linux (V24 or EIA232 or X21bis) (Luis Forra)
  Re: ipfwadm: setsockopt failed: Invalid argument (ALPHA) (Paul Slootman)
  Re: 3c509 problems on Redhat 5.2 (Simon Andre Simonsen)
  Do I need common files to upgrade Netscape Communicator? ("Mitchell Maltenfort")
  Re: How to use Tape Backup ? (Leslie Mikesell)
  Re: Want to do direct install of Redhat 5.2 via FTP since I have Cox@home but am 
stuck in the DUNGEONS OF DOOM !!! SO  HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP !!! ("umm")
  Re: Modem choice for Linux (Kazin)

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From: kama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Power line LAN
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 13:17:31 +1000

Hi all

Does anyone know where I could get an ethernet card that will work over
my power line system at home. It should work under Linux of course.

Thanks

Later
Mac


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Josh Gentry)
Subject: Re: PPP Options Setting for PAP Dialin Server?
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 20:21:49 -0800

Adam,

Let's see, our dialin server was on a LAN and you could dial into it and see
the Internet.  With this setup.
So I'm not sure the problem is in the options for PPP or mgetty.  Then
again, I'm not positive it's not.

Ok, is IP forwarding compiled into your kernel?  If not, I believe your
dialin server might not be able to
pass packets between the client and the LAN.

When you say you can't see past the dialin server, do you mean that you get
an error message about
name resolution (DNS)?  If so, try pinging or telneting or web surfing to a
host by IP address instead of by
name.  If you connect, then the problem is just that for some reason you are
not seeing the DNS.

And check to see if all appropriate networking options are compiled into the
kernel.

Are you sure that you are connecting with PPP?  You are sure that pppd is
running?  If PPP support is
compiled into the kernel, it should take care of adding the appropriate
entry to your kernel routing table so
that the kernel passes packets from the ppp device (ppp0 for instance) to
the ethernet device (eth0, for
instance) and vice versa.  I think you see the kernel routing table by
typing the "route" command without
any options.  Make your connection to your server, then look at the kernel
routing table on the server.
You should see the entry for the ppp device.

That's all I can think of at the moment.  Let us know what happens.  Good
luck

Josh
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: dizzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
linux.redhat.install,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: PLEASE HELP !!! PLEASE HELP !!!
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 23:23:01 -0500



"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote:

> SOLUTION FOR THE PROBLEM I GOT. DO NOT GIVE ME IRRELEVANT BULLSH**
> SUCH AS TELLING ME TO PARTITION MY OTHER HARD DRIVE. I WILL CONTINUE
> TO POST THIS MESSAGE UNTIL SOMEONE HELPS ME FIX THIS PROBLEM !!!

LMAO!!!!
hehehehe.....uh huh.......
Linux Home page http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LBM.htm



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From: Drg ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Crossposted-To: 
linux.redhat.install,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: PLEASE HELP !!! PLEASE HELP !!!
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 04:29:46 GMT

Very funny, creamfart. Now you can stuff some cream up your ****.
AHEHEHEHEHE !!!

On Thu, 31 Dec 1998 01:43:52 GMT, Pat Crean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>
>On 12/30/98, 7:37:41 PM, Drg ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote regarding Re: PLEASE=20
>HELP !!! PLEASE HELP !!!:
>
>
>> SORRY, DOUGY BOY BUT I AIN'T GONNA PAY. Besides, I still have to make
>> sure my ethernet card works. As for posting, I CAN POST ALL I WANT
>> UNTIL I FIND A DECENT SOLUTION !!!
>
>
>You can post until hell itself freezes over, if you don't read the=20
>responses, it isn't going to do a damned bit of good.  As far as I,=20
>and probably most of the other folks here that could help you, are=20
>concerned, you can stick with microsoft for the rest of your life. =20
>
>
>


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From: David Riley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: demon.ip.support.unix
Subject: Re: Q. Best MTU Settings for UK ISP Demon Internet ??
Date: 31 Dec 1998 01:59:26 +0000

(John Auld) writes:

> Thank you for your tips. I have the dial up working fine, but I have
> seen a few people report significant improvements in data transfer
> rates by adjusting the MTU and other settings. I have read that these
> settings are ISP depandant and so I was hoping to learn what other
> people use.

I use MTU/MRU = 1500 and tcp window = 5840 (set with `route' command)
following advice from Andrew Gierth in msg-id:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I also compile the kernel with `IP: Allow large windows' set to No.

Both these have improved throughput although I still sometimes get
modem <-> modem related stalling (ie can't ping gateway) as I am
still using kflex (Hayes Accura 5670).

Download speeds from ftp.dcu or sunsite are typically 4.2kb/s for
compressed files (connect speed usually 44000 or 46000).

--
David Riley             [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: linux and netware 4.11
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 02:44:11 GMT

[posted and mailed] You may have to manually configure your ipx routes
(especially if there are Win95 machines on your net that are doing 'file and
print sharing for novell networks').  Check the network number on the server
and its IPX address (you can get this from the network administrator) and use
ipx_route thusly:

ipx_route add [the general IPX network address] [the server internal network
address]  [server IPX address] (all on one line) and you should also check
the frame types the server uses.  You could watch the output of ipxdump for 
a while to see what's going on on your network. Also check the version of
ncpfs to make sure it supports packet signing,  with netware 4.11 I think it
may default to using packet signatures which you will also have to use.  Good
luck.

  dennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to login in to our novell fileserver via linux. I use a Madge
> pci Token Ring adapter.
> Have ipx en ncpfs built into the kernel (2.0.35)
>
> Setup the  tr0 network device with the command ipx_interface  add tr0
> 802.2 802.2TR and snap
> Then I enabled the interface via ipx_configure --auto_interface=on
> --autoprimary=on
>
> When i put the command slist, after a while the shell says " no servers
> found in ncp_open"
>
> What is wrong? Is it possible to use tokenring adapters?
>
> Please help me out.
>
> Dennis van der Kwast
> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Luis Forra)
Subject: (cheap) Syncronous serial cards for Linux (V24 or EIA232 or X21bis)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 20:07:23 GMT

Where can I find cheap cards for linux ?  I only need 64K so a dumb
card is all that i need, It seems that that all cards are overpriced (
sangoma, digi, etc...)

Thank for your help.

regards

Luis Forra
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Slootman)
Subject: Re: ipfwadm: setsockopt failed: Invalid argument (ALPHA)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 13:43:12 GMT

CyberX  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Marc Haber wrote:
>> 
>> CyberX <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >[root@localhost /root]# ipfwadm -F -p deny
>> >[root@localhost /root]# ipfwadm -F -a m -S 192.168.1.2/32 -D 0.0.0.0/0
>> >ipfwadm: setsockopt failed: Invalid argument
>> 
>Not true and true. The rule is "m" which stands for masquerade. But
>anyway, if I do:
>
>ipfwadm -F -a accept -m -S 192.168.1.2/32 -D 0.0.0.0/0
>
>I get the same result:
>
>ipfwadm: setsockopt failed: Invalid argument
>
>Can this be an ALPHA specific problem, is there anybody with an ALPHA
>who got ip masquerading working?

There apparently is an error in the "standard" ipfwadm command. I've
gathered that you need to make a change in some kernel header file
if you compile it yourself; alternatively, get 2.3.0-5 rpm from RedHat
(the binary, not the source!); that binary should be correct.

Otherwise, look around on dejanews. A couple of minutes' work led me to
http://x13.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=372278490&CONTEXT=914420437.788922412&hitnum=47


Paul Slootman
-- 
home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | debian: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.wurtel.demon.nl | Murphy Software,   Enschede,   the Netherlands

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From: Simon Andre Simonsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 3c509 problems on Redhat 5.2
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 15:13:36 +0100

Try this modprobe 3c509.o
And tehn try to use ifconfig or X to add your new interface.

Martin Beaumont wrote:

> I have recently installed KDE with no problems on a Dell Optiplex 5120.
> Prior to the install i had flawless networking, but since installing KDE
> i try to activate the eth0 interface and a message is echoed in a
> terminal window 'Delaying eth0 initialization'
>
> I've read the section's in the Linux's Network Admin's guide but to no
> success. Can anybody shed any light on this topic ?
>
> BTW, i've tried using 'ifconfig eth0 up' and resetting throught netcfg.
>
> Thanks
>
> Martin Beaumont




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From: "Mitchell Maltenfort" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Do I need common files to upgrade Netscape Communicator?
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 20:00:54 -0700


I recently downloaded the Netscape Communicator rpm from RedHat's site but I
didn't download the Common  rpm.  Do I need to have it to have the full
upgrade?



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: How to use Tape Backup ?
Date: 30 Dec 1998 22:46:30 -0600

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Doug Bryant  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I did not care to use the graphical version as I want to run the backups
>at night as a cron job.
>
>I found the program mt and can access the tape drive and rewind it,
>erase it.   I do not really understand the purpose of moving around the
>blocks (to the beginning of the first and end of the previous, etc.
>Well I understand what it does but when and why does to do it)

You normally only want to move by 'files' which is what you write
in a single run.  If you write to the no-rewind device you can
just follow directly with the next archive without positioning
again.

>I also found the dump program..  I played with this and backed up the
>home directory as a test ( not very big yet )   the program kept asking
>me if the next share was ready.
>
>Anyway, is dump the best way to do this?  Any suggestions?  Better yet,
>If anyone has any scripts that I could use that would be very nice.

Dump is OK but you can only restore to the same kind of OS.  GNUtar
is a little more portable.

>Oh yea, the tape is a SCSI HP that uses 4Gb dat tapes.  I do not
>remember the exact model.  (at home now)   The backup will only run on
>the local machine, atleast for now.

If you can fit everything on one tape, just write a script that
cd's to the top of each filesystem (skip /proc of course) and
does:
tar --one-file-system -cf /dev/nst0 .

You can check the tape by reading back the filenames:
mt rewind
 then
tar -tvf /dev/nst0
mt fsf 1
(repeat for each filesystem)

extract by cd'ing to the right place and:
tar -xvf /dev/nst0
 
  Les Mikesell
    [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: "umm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
linux.redhat.install,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Want to do direct install of Redhat 5.2 via FTP since I have Cox@home but 
am stuck in the DUNGEONS OF DOOM !!! SO  HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP !!!
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 22:22:58 -0500

Welp you could fork out the $14 for the RedHat
CD-ROM at your local computer store but that kinda
nullifies the value of RedHat being freeware.

Unless you have 2 hard drives I think you will
have to partition your hard drive to have at least
2 partitions one could be 32bit but the other
should be split into a RedHat native and a RedHat
swap partition.


Probably the easiest way for you to install on a
2 disk system is to have 2 partitions on the
first drive with the downloaded files on the
second partition

c:\ = 32bit
logical drive of HD1 d:\ is 16 bit and contains the RedHat

then on HD2

fdisk and format it and scan disk it

Then use your boot floppies to install RedHat on
Physical drive 2
from Physical drive 1 logical drive D:\RedHat\



I am almost at the point that I think RedHat is
becoming useless. The development is getting
pretty far behind on support for current Hardware

Its getting to the point that you really have to plan
on purchasing a system that will do only Linux.

There are no 56k PCI modems for Linux
AGP is poorly supported
No USB and
X will fry your monitor

I mean what use is it

If your running a home system there are tons
of free daemons and software for Windows that
will work just fine and install in a matter of minutes.


I mean I just think its time for Eric Raymond
to come to grips that he is totally wrong.


Linux or any Unix system may be fine for an
a speciality application, Intranet Mail Server or
even a web server but it doesn't even come close to
being a system that you can install on your desktop.
Let alone a system that you can share with the family
let kids play games and learn and mom and dad can
do a little work at home.
I would rather use dos 2.0 with Gem.

Linux is not free you really need to buy it on CD-ROM.
Then you need hardware that will support Linux.
Then you need a manual and months of training
to be able to really understand and perform the
configuration correctly and fully.

Sure you could probably get it to boot in a full day of work
including partitioning re-configuration of PnP Hardware
hunting down Video signal specs.

Then when you do what is it good for ?

You can chat on IRC all day run some Warez FTP servers
or spoof some mail.


If Sun, Linux, SCO, BSD, AIX were so great
Microsoft would be suing them I guess

And such is proof that it will really be a BE OS
or some similar thing that will be Microsoft's demise
20 years from now.


The time has come to forget all this BS and start
becoming productive with tools that are available
and useable.

If you waste a day or a week or a few hours a
day or week and you continuously need to read arcane
manuals on sendmail and write scripts and use perl
to manage a system that is basically a headache and doesn't
support your needed hardware or software
then what is the real price.


I guess its like an old car
you can buy one and make it work well
but if you need a part or technical info you have
to spend a long time hunting it down.
If you can't find what you need you have to
make the part which means a large investment in time.
And Time = Money.
Most of all there is no dealer to get your money back from.


Just writing this news post I could have written
an article for my website which would have been
another 2 pages that could have banners on them
making me money.


Honestly from now on I am gonna point my friends
towards Windows and "enemas" towards Linux.


Then again Ill make you a deal
If Clinton is thrown out of office I will devote 1 day a week
to providing help to New Linux users.

Its all about reality I guess its just time to wake up
















THE DUNGEONS OF DOOOOOOOOOOM wrote in message <368ac28d.9690894@news>...
>Hi. i do apologize if my message sounds a bit too long but at least
>you all will be able to figure out the sticky problem I'm stuck with
>and may even know how to help me out of it. I currently am running
>Windows 98 on one hard disk. However, since it is 7.5 GB and it's
>32-bit, Linux  won't recognize it when I first install Linux. At least
>that's what I have been told and eventually found out. Besides, sure I
>can download 500 MB in 2 hrs without any trouble via my cable modem,
>but I would still need to copy it to a CD-R or CD-RW disc or something
>and I'm not gonna pay $200 - $400 for CD-R/RW (in case you all wanted
>to know why I would not prefer to copy to a storage device and then
>install). I'm not sure if Linux will do it off my zip disks if I copy
>linux to 6 zip discs. In any case, these wonderful people keep on
>changing the versions of RH Linux. Therefore having got fed up with
>it, I looked in the book which talked about RH Linux and how to
>install. Well, I had versions 3 and 4 of RH but since some of my
>crucial hardware at that time could not be recognized I abandoned RH
>until I finally found out that if I had a direct connection with
>Cox@home just like corporations and universities that have a direct
>connection with their T1, T3, OC-3, etc... server, then you don't even
>have to download RH linux. All you really have to download are the
>boot.img and supp.img files and transfer them to two blank but
>formatted 3.5" high density disks. So I did just that and booted up my
>machine and when I got to the installation method option, I chose ftp
>method. When I got to the ethernet card question, I 3c509 driver. By
>the way, I still have the 3c509b PnP 16-bit Ethernet adaptor which I
>obtained when I used to attend another university. Rather than sell
>it, I kept it for something like a cable modem. In fact that same
>ethernet card I had was part of the requirements for my cable modem
>installation. Anyway, RH Linux never in the past had any trouble
>recognizing my ethernet card. The only trouble was recognizing my
>video cards,my parallel port zip drive, and my higher capacity hard
>drive. here, in 5.2 that was not the problem. however, when I got to
>the options of DHCP, BOOTP, and Static Address, I chose the Static
>option and filled in my fields correctly. However, I got an error
>message saying unable to connect to host. I fully verified the ftp
>site address and typed it correctly. So I then went back and tried the
>other two options only to get the "no response" error message from
>bootp and dhcp. So the question still remains, isn't it possible to
>install via ftp with cox@home and if so, how and what configurations
>are to be made during installation?
>
>P.S:
>PLEASE DO NO TELL ME TO USE ANOTHER VERSION OF UNIX SINCE I KINDA AM
>USED TO RH LINUX. ALSO, PLEASE DO NOT TELL ME HOW TO PARTITION MY HARD
>DRIVE SINCE MY 75. GB HARD DRIVE IS NEARLY FILLED UP. I PLAN TO
>INSTALL REDHAT LINUX 5.2 TO MY OLDER 730 MB HARD DRIVE SO PLEASE DO
>NOT BRING IN 7.5 GB INTO THE PICTURE UNLESS YOU ARE GONNA GIVE ME A
>FREE CD-RW DRIVE FIRST !!! ALL I AM ASKING IS THAT YOU GIVE ME A
>SOLUTION FOR THE PROBLEM I GOT. DO NOT GIVE ME IRRELEVANT BULLSH**
>SUCH AS TELLING ME TO PARTITION MY OTHER HARD DRIVE. I WILL CONTINUE
>TO POST THIS MESSAGE UNTIL SOMEONE HELPS ME FIX THIS PROBLEM !!!
>
>Please post a reply to this message. I've had to switch ISPs in the
>past due to people spamming and framing my acount(s).
>
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>



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From: Kazin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Modem choice for Linux
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 22:28:14 -0500

Paul B. Brown wrote:
> 
> Good, inexpensive v.90 modems:  ZOOM and Supra.  Get the non-PNP versions.

        Zoom is one brand I always tell people to stay FAR away from.  Most of
the problems I had when running a BBS were caused by users of Zoom
modems.  The Supra is nice though, I had one of those too.


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  http://www.sector13.org/mike             Thirteen Technologies, LLC
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