Linux-Networking Digest #899, Volume #9 Sat, 16 Jan 99 18:13:55 EST
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Re: This is Linux, not Windows, so why not superior flexibility AND idiot-friendly?
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Re: This is Linux, not Windows, so why not superior flexibility AND idiot-friendly?
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pppd call ("goa.")
PAP/manual Login? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: This is Linux, not Windows, so why not superior flexibility AND idiot-friendly?
("Robert H. Thompson")
NFS, RH 5.2, & multiple clients (Tony Holden)
Re: SMC EtherEZ 8416 (Qkev)
Re: This is Linux, not Windows, so why not superior flexibility AND idiot-friendly?
(Alexander Viro)
Re: securing a linux box ("Robert L. Ziegler")
Re: linux to windows (or any other client) networking: an idea (Brian McCauley)
How do I work CIPE (Malay Shah)
Re: PCI Card NE2000 compatible ("zeit")
Masquerading as 2 different IPs (Elden Crom)
Re: Networking problems with 2.2.0-pre4 (J Scott Berg)
Re: AutoPPP and pppd server (Clifford Kite)
Mail and DNS servers (Narayan Parameshwar)
Re: This is Linux, not Windows, so why not superior flexibility AND idiot-friendly?
(brian moore)
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Subject: Re: This is Linux, not Windows, so why not superior flexibility AND
idiot-friendly?
Date: 16 Jan 1999 20:13:35 GMT
In the sacred domain of comp.os.linux.misc didst rob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> eloquently
scribe:
: So true - what you use is what you like. A foreign graduate student here
: was all frustrated with windows because he was used to UNIX and coudn't
: figure out how to grep in windows.
*CAN* you grep in windows?
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Subject: Re: This is Linux, not Windows, so why not superior flexibility AND
idiot-friendly?
Date: 16 Jan 1999 20:11:52 GMT
In the sacred domain of comp.os.linux.misc didst Larry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
eloquently scribe:
: you can even write a little script for each one of these if that's
: too much typing for you. Name 'em cdin and cdout or even ci and co
: or just m and u.
Although ci and co aren't REALLY that good an idea, because they might clash
with RCS.
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From: "goa." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: pppd call
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 21:22:42 GMT
hi, i have RedHat 5.1 and i can't connect to my isp when i trie to call it
says:
This system lacks kernel support for PPP.
This could be because the PPP kernel module is not loaded,
or because the kernel is not configured for PPP.
See the README.linux file in the ppp-2.3.3 distribution.
what to do???
thanks!
goa
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PAP/manual Login?
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 22:05:55 GMT
Hey,
I'm trying to connect to an ISP using the annex system, but whenever I
connect,
everything is fine up until I start ppp (I must give the command 'ppp' to
start the service).
Then it notifies me (tailing /var/log/messages) that it can't get a remote
ip address.
The thing is, I'm pretty sure I need to be running PAP, not just logging in,
but I have to start PPP manually also. The LDP HowTo was kind enough to
mention, but not explain this.
Can someone out there plz help me to connect to a PAP system, where I have
to start PPP manually first? Or if I'm on a trip here, please explain what
I'm doing wrong.
FYI: RH 5.2, created my own /etc/ppp/scripts/ and ppp-on, ppp-on-dialer,
ppp-off
33.6K USR Modem, P200, pppd 2.3.5
All help appreciated..
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From: "Robert H. Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: This is Linux, not Windows, so why not superior flexibility AND
idiot-friendly?
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:00:57 -0500
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Here, Here!!!
Richard S. Lumpkin wrote:
>
> MalkContent wrote:
> >
>
> Yada, yada, yada.
>
> Why don't you yap about this on the advocacy newsgroups and level the
> technical discussions groups out of it. We're trying to help and learn
> about Linux, whining about how hard you find it has no place here.
>
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From: Tony Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: NFS, RH 5.2, & multiple clients
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:56:19 -0600
Here's the specs.
Newly installed RH 5.2. All's well. Export the /home directory for
testing.
>From a Sun I mount /home and read and write without any problems.
>From an IBM (AIX) I mount /home and read and write without any problems.
Now when I start both (AIX & Sun) writing to the /home (nfs exported
drive) things fail. On the Linux box I see:
Jan 15 11:47:24 serv1 nfsd[302]: non-standard errno: 14 (Bad address)
and
Jan 15 11:48:17 serv1 nfsd[302]: strange write req from <anon clnt>:
count 4294967295 len 0
The two clients start reporting write errors and complain that the nfs
server is not responding. Which indeed is true. Nfs shuts down on the
server.
Any clues.
TIA
Tony
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From: Qkev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SMC EtherEZ 8416
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 22:30:23 GMT
Eric Jorgensen wrote:
>
> Nasir Memon wrote:
> >
> > I dont see how that snippet in the HOW-TO helps. I have the same problem
> > and have tried without success to get my Red Hat 5.1 to see the
> > SMC EtherEZ 8416. I tried using isapnp using the instructions in
> > the @home for linux page that someone pointed me to. No luck.
> > And then I asked for help and get replies to the effect - coonfigure the
> > card manually! How the hell do I do that? Why do people assume
> > that any one using linux (and I have been for five years) will know
> > how to configure an ethernet card for this or that or set it manually
> > or what not@!!
>
> I've never met an SMC network card that couldn't be manually configured
> with the use of a DOS utility on the driver disk that came with it. To
You need 'ezsetup' from the SMC website, boot dos and run it. Use
'ezsetup nopnp'
or something to that effect to turn off PNP support on the card, then
run 'ezsetup'
and configure the port/irq, you should be fine from there. Of note: I
had 2 cards
running and one wouldn't work, I changed the irq around until it did,
there was no
conflict I could see - it just didn't work on that irq(wasted 2 days on
that one..)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro)
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Subject: Re: This is Linux, not Windows, so why not superior flexibility AND
idiot-friendly?
Date: 16 Jan 1999 17:32:44 -0500
In article <77qrtf$ced$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In the sacred domain of comp.os.linux.misc didst rob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> eloquently
>scribe:
>
>: So true - what you use is what you like. A foreign graduate student here
>: was all frustrated with windows because he was used to UNIX and coudn't
>: figure out how to grep in windows.
>
>*CAN* you grep in windows?
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In article <77qrtf$ced$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In the sacred domain of comp.os.linux.misc didst rob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> eloquently
>scribe:
>
>: So true - what you use is what you like. A foreign graduate student here
>: was all frustrated with windows because he was used to UNIX and coudn't
>: figure out how to grep in windows.
>
>*CAN* you grep in windows?
Damn it, folks, it's getting ridiculuos. *Writing* grep from scratch takes
less than week. All you need is read(), write(), open() and close(). Oh,
malloc()/free() are useful too. Grep is a trivial program, no black magic there.
You are posting from ac.uk, so you *should* have an access to library.
Grab there Aho, Hopcraft and Ullman and read on regular expressions. Then
take C complier and write the damned thing. It may be not too well-optimized,
but you should be able to implement O(length of expression * length of input)
variant. At least the filter variant (reading from stdin) should be doable
within a week. Don't use anything that would interact with underlying OS except
read() and write(). Even Windows should provide *that* much.
Sheesh... Kids those days. Pox on M$ and Crapple for making folks
believe that computers are full of black magic.
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From: "Robert L. Ziegler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: securing a linux box
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 17:34:06 -0500
Yan Seiner wrote:
> What are some good references for securing a linux server from attacks
> via the internet?
> I want to block all ports except 22 and 80 on my internet interface, but
> want to keep my ability to telnet from the LAN.
Network security and firewall setup: go to
http://rlz.ne.mediaone.net/linux for the FAQ
http://rlz.ne.mediaone.net/linux/firewall to custom design your own firewall.
For telnet only on the LAN, with a firewall, you can block all telnet traffic
on the external interface while allowing it on the internal LAN interface.
Enable telnet in /etc/inetd.conf. You don't need a telnet entry in
/etc/hosts.allow if you use a line for local and internal traffic, something like:
ALL: LOCAL <your internal machines>
Bob
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From: Brian McCauley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux to windows (or any other client) networking: an idea
Date: 15 Jan 1999 17:51:06 +0000
"Josh Toon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Instead of reverse engineering native windows networking to work with Linux
> why not develop a native windows networking client like the NetWare client
> or the Microsoft Networking client for Linux. WindowsNT and 98 both have
> installable networking redirectors. If you could have a native system client
> (I guess it could be on any OS that supports these kind of things which
> would be most) then developers in the public domain could use best of breed
> authentication services as they are developed in the universities.
Or go the full way and use a complete university developed distributed
filesystem like, say, CODA.
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From: Malay Shah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How do I work CIPE
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 19:03:09 GMT
Hi, I was wondering how I would setup CIPE. I have set up my network,
exactly how they specified in the howto, but it still doesn't work. I'm
using CIPE 1.2.0...thanks for the help
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From: "zeit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PCI Card NE2000 compatible
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 13:02:41 -0600
Use the ne2k-pci driver, but be warned it caused my system to lock up
randomly and I now just use the ne driver without a problem. I have a link
on my linux page about ne2000 cards and where to find the driver.
Hope this helps :-)
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Lorenzo Morbidelli wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I have a PCI NE2000 compatible marked as "PCICARD W40"
>
>Does anyone know the name of the maker or where I can download
>an updated driver?
>
>
>Thanks
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From: Elden Crom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Masquerading as 2 different IPs
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:02:55 -0700
Masquerading as 2 different IPs
I have setup a firewall between our internal net (10.x.x.x,eth1) and the
outside world via
an ethernet connection using masquerading, no problem. My real internet
address is
208.x.x.x (eth0). I need to dial into corporate via a PPP connection.
I make the PPP
connection and get my PPP IP address, 199.1.x.x (ppp0) and their IP
address
(199.2.x.x) from them just fine just fine but when I ping any thing
inside their firewall, I
don't get any thing in return. Baffled I tried "tcpdump -i ppp0". Much
to my surprise, I
found that my packets had the 208.x.x.x address on them not 199.1.x.x.
Since I already have
ipfwadm -F -a m -S 10.x.x.x -D 0.0.0.0
# for the full internet, which masquerades as 208.x.x.x
I think what I need is
ipfwadm -F -a m AS 199.1.x.x -S 10.x.x.x -D 199.2.x.x
but to the best of my knowledge this functionality ( AS 199.1.x.x)
does not exist.
Is there a flag in pppd to cause masquerading? A route(ing) change?
or any thing else? Does ipchains handle this?
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From: J Scott Berg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Networking problems with 2.2.0-pre4
Date: 16 Jan 1999 22:16:04 GMT
In article <773rqd$12m$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>modprobe: can't locate module net-pf-4
>modprobe: can't locate module net-pf-5
in /etc/conf.modules
alias net-pf-4 off
alias net-pf-5 off
-Scott Berg
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clifford Kite)
Crossposted-To:
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Subject: Re: AutoPPP and pppd server
Date: 16 Jan 1999 16:26:41 -0600
Alan Baker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I've installed Redhat 5.1 for use as a small dialup PPP server. Dialout
: PPP works fine, but inbound /AutoPPP/ calls will not stay connected. A
: Win95/Win98 caller can connect and log in, but immediately gets the
: dreaded "cannot negotiate a set of protocols" message. An OS/2 dialer
: gets similar results without the message.
:
: On the dialer side, TCP/IP is the only protocol requested. On the Linux
: side, mgetty takes the call and PAP validates the user successfully, but
: then the caller drops the session almost immediately. The Linux box is a
: standalone, not networked to anything else currently.
:
: /var/logs/messages isn't very revealing even with debug and kdebug 7. How
: can I determine what's going on here and why the negotiation fails?
I would try looking in /var/log/debug where the pppd negotiation
messages usually go, unless RedHat has it's own ideas in that regard.
You can check on this by looking in /etc/syslog.conf for something like
"*.=debug /var/log/debug" and reading "man syslog.conf" to get details.
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From: Narayan Parameshwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mail and DNS servers
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 19:13:59 GMT
Hi!
I am trying to setup mail server and DNS server on
our linux machine.
Does RedHat 5.2 come with these servers.
If yes, can I get setup information from somewhere.
If not, are these freewares of these softwares avaialbe any where.
Also are there any good graphical mail clients for Redhat 5.2 machine.
Thanks in advance
Narayan Parameshwar
AWARD Solutions, Inc.
"Communicating communications"
Phone: (972) 664-0727
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Crossposted-To:
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Subject: Re: This is Linux, not Windows, so why not superior flexibility AND
idiot-friendly?
Date: 15 Jan 1999 19:14:23 GMT
On Fri, 15 Jan 1999 07:34:24 GMT,
MalkContent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Since the demise of commercially available Dos - based software,
> I have been stuck with adjusting to Windoze.
Ick.
> I don`t have a really snazzy job, I work in a warehouse.
> I however am a consumer. I buy things I can use.
That's good.
> Having just bought RedHat 5.2, I thought I was going to shit a horse!
Sounds painful.
> This stuff is user tolerant. That's it.
No, it's actually userfriendly but picky about who its friends are.
> (unless of course you're one of the tech-elite...cos this discussion keeps
> degrading into elitist convo.)
By some. Linux is in many ways a People's OS. It's not controlled by
a bunch of programmers making millions in stock options. It's
controlled by anyone and everyone. This leads to equality.
Certainly not everyone is born knowing their way around IRQs and DMA
channels and other junk. For those who don't, though, that's why the
Linux newsgroups and mailing lists exist: education is free and good. :)
For those that don't want to learn, well, they'll have to find someone
to set up their system for them. This will get easier as it becomes
easier to buy Linux preinstalled.
> aIts a pain in the backside to mount then unmount a CDROM.
> even though it looks like :
> mount dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom/blahblahblah
That's only because mount doesn't know anything about it.
If you train mount to know about it, it's as easy as "mount /cdrom".
I have in my /etc/fstab:
/dev/hdd /cdrom iso9660 user,auto,ro,nosuid,nodev 1 1
> Most users probably agree that that's a whole bunch of extra effort.
> If Linux is so great as described, why's it so painful for the john doe to use?
>
> Windoze is a necessary evil - access for the uninformed, or unwilling
>
> Masochists (like myself) grab Linux out of a box, and find there's a whole
> boatload of tweaking we need to do to use it. john doe won't.
A lot of those John Does, though, are in business settings: they don't
do any of the needed tweaking or maintainance that Windows requires
there, but instead rely on IS types to do their installs and periodic
format/reinstalls, etc.
The 'total cost of ownership' of Windows is insane for a business. The
constant maintainance that is needed is expensive.
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